Silent But Deadly: Welrod Mk IIA

[@KhorneBred]

He actually live-fired the weapon 5 times during this video but nobody heard it.

[@collybeans586]

Fuck yeah! ty

[@clarkkent163000]

That's the only reason I clicked. Got disappointed

[@foxeh123]

Came to make this joke

[@alantorrance6153]

No. It did not have rounds in it. He fired the action, but no rounds.

[@clarkkent163000]

@@alantorrance6153 Wow. It was a joke, bud.

[@Drakonus_]

"You want a pistol with a silencer permanently attached to it?" "No. I want a silencer with a pistol permanently attached to it."

[@JustIn-op6oy]

"Sir, how much of the barrel do you want in the integral silencer?" "Yes..."

[@tribektiagustinus157]

Patut mendapatkan hal cipta.dari logam.pistol nya.

[@mithaangelia61]

@@tribektiagustinus157 👍

[@HK-pq7pe]

Its a silencer with a grip

[@171apples171]

Now this is my kind of humor hahahahahaha

[@ILikeToLaughAtYou]

How to make a British war-time firearm: Step 1: Metal tube Step 2: put a grip on it Step 3: Simplify that design for the foreseeable future

[@AshleyPomeroy]

And when it looks as though the war is almost over add a little wooden handgrip to make it look fancy. For morale.

[@ILikeToLaughAtYou]

@@AshleyPomeroy OR, and hear me out here... rotate the magazine well 90 degrees to the left or right of the chamber, make it so specific for a certain situation that it never gets used, keep it in ordinance until some militia in South Africa needs arms. Then leave every firearm that was lent to the South Africans in South Africa, find it 40 years later in the hands of an Iraqi fighter.

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

As an Englishman I approve your comment with the caveat that one really should involve drinking tea during that.

[@ILikeToLaughAtYou]

Ag3nt0fCha0s *Step 4:* Somebody get this man some tea, damnit.

[@diabloflare8304]

Step 5: maybe smells like victory

[@modelrailwaynoob]

German sentry: "Is that a Welrod in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?"

[@bryce5527]

Pew ...... a little of both

[@asneecrabbier3900]

_ummm... n-nein sir nein_

[@User-ti5hy]

I'm trying to picture this in a German accent and its perfect

[@modelrailwaynoob]

@@User-ti5hy lol me too. I don't know if you have seen Top Secret from years ago but I thought about the novelty poo clip.

[@User-ti5hy]

@@modelrailwaynoob ima be honest with you dog I havent seen it but I'll check it out

[@lukewilson-green5710]

It's literally a silencer with a grip

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Yup.

[@skullhammer9899]

Forgotten Weapons Can you load in a single bullet and fire it without the grip/clip? Edit: I know it's a magazine, "gripclip" sounds nicer so I said that instead. Stop trying to correct me after I already did that myself. It's been 3 years.

[@superliga1]

Skullhammer98 you can do that, my grandfather was in the danish resistence movement, and he at one point got searched by a german soldier, and he tried to trick him that it was at bikepump. The soldier didnt really buy it, so my grandfather used the one bullet in the chamber and shot the soldier in the head and managed to get away. He got the pistol from a SOE agent he helped escape to sweden in the winter 1944-45. After the war he hid the pistol behind a closet in his bedroom, and after his death in 2013 we found it and delivered it to a museum. But not before we tried firing at few rounds. It really is hollywood quiet :)

[@alongthebluff]

Hats off to your grandfather. Happy new year.

[@superliga1]

Andrej Ambrenac Along with the history, and the danish weapon laws made it illegal :(

[@Jacob-yg7lz]

"Sir, what is this?" "It's a bicycle pump" "Why does a bicycle pump need gun sites?" "Hey, have you ever tried to pump a bike tire without aiming? I didn't think so."

[@Evilmonkey7270]

Yeah, they should have tried disguising those with a fake hose, and made the bolt handle a bike pump handle

[@excrubulent]

Oooh, there's a thought, I assume there's no mag safety, so if you had a round chambered that would actually work.

[@moriskurth628]

@Steve Anon I think a Welrod disguised as a cane or crutch could actually work pretty well. I mean you wouldn't take the support from a hurt or old person, now would you?

[@grilledleeks6514]

@@moriskurth628 Uh... Yes. yes I would.

[@sohomchatterjee]

😂😂😂😂

[@superbun277]

_A sneaky weapon from a less civilised age..._ I find the idea of some modern SAS unit with all their fancy NVGs and modern optics resorting to a piece of 1940s plumbing when they need to be extra sneaky rather amusing.

[@acelennygaming]

I suspect that they may have made a few improvements in the last few decades.

[@martinh2783]

Put a little red dot and a stock on it and charginghandle that is slightly easier to manipulate and I think you fire both fast, accurate and silent.

[@isaachunt7107]

Superbun Amusing & more than just a little British lol

[@-Agent_47_]

I believe they are now using b&t vp9

[@SgtSteel1]

Still in use during Desert Storm!

[@bananabuns1369]

"sir, how do we make a silenced pistol?" "MAKE A LARGE SILENCER" "alright, what gun should it be on?" "PUT A MAGAZINE IN THE SILENCER AND MAKE IT THE GRIP" "but sir, wouldn't that make it not wor-" "MAKE THE SILENCER A PISTOL" "but si-" *"SILENCER PISTOL"*

[@jumpkickman1993]

Sounds like an order from Stalin in the USSR. Fuck the science I want a silencer gun all in one! Lol

[@Peter_Turbo4]

Churchill moment

[@matthewblairrains6032]

@@jumpkickman1993 its a meme from a potential history video about WW2 British tank production

[@gustavgnoettgen]

I'm riding on my Welbike to the SOE drive-through. "I'll have a BigWel, a WelRib, four chicken Welnuggets and a counterfeit Fanta please." I pay with captured Reichsmark.

[@marthaindahouse1010]

Bigweld

[@kevinwestermann1001]

That Fanta (which was ironically a counterfeit product made in "Germany") could be ... Wellspring Soda. :P

[@gustavgnoettgen]

@@kevinwestermann1001 River von Aldi 🤭

[@divecolosio4988]

Lol, Welp!

[@icepicjoey]

Fanta was coca cola with local ingredients to replace the ingredients that couldn't be imported during the war. So technically counterfeit coca cola. Lol The creator got a promotion after the war was over.

[@paulh.7833]

Very cool gun buy you have to imagine if this was discovered on someone: "And what is this?" "It's a...bicycle pump! Yes, a bicycle pump!" "...With front and rear sights?" "Yes?" "...Seems legit, now can you explain this obvious gun magazine that mates surprisingly well with your sighted bike pump?" "Yes, here let me show you." *Pfft Pfft*

[@stealthisaccount433]

this comment deserves gold

[@Epiphany-818]

*Other person walls into room* "What are you doing?" *Moves to hide two dead bodies* "Oh just pumping up my bike"

[@River-pg1uk]

@@Epiphany-818 pfft pfft “Damn this bike it’s really stubborn” *continues to dispose of bodies*

[@thebiggusdonnus8453]

Hans? Are you filling up ze motocycle tires? PEW.

[@ALJ9000]

Isn’t it bolt-action?

[@dereks6636]

32 caliber, bolt action, assault baton.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

California already banned it, because it's black and scary

[@Gmailkonto23]

You won't hear it cumming.

[@keithmoore7390]

cali's banned pointing your finger and going bang, bang , bang!!! I think you get life for a dirty look to boot!!!!!!!

[@SamSung-mw6qt]

Good description

[@granola661]

+PickelJars ForHillary your name is alarming

[@kjamison5951]

Rod: “What will we call it?” Tod: “Well, Rod…” Rod: “I like that!”

[@VersusARCH]

(and it looks as an actual rod)

[@thepugchugzchannel4511]

This is why you make the big bucks Tod my man!

[@ianfinrir8724]

Aww, they were about to show close-ups of The Rod.

[@legitbeans9078]

I got your rod right here

[@brianburnell8351]

The Welgun along with the Welbike (a folding motorbike for use by paratroops), the Welman (a one-man submersible for sneak attacks on warships in harbours), the Welfreighter (a miniature submarine used to insert secret agents onto enemy beaches) and numerous other projects was developed from the ideas of Lt Col John Dolphin, an army engineer who later became the Chief Engineer at the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston (the British equivalent to Los Alamos) and the Engineer-in-Chief at the UK Atomic Energy Authority at Harwell that designed the UK civil nuclear programme. He later moved into civilian industry manufacturing forklift trucks, and that is were I met up with him as Chief Production Engineer of a supplier to one of his companies. A bachelor until his sixties, he finally succumbed to his secretary before dying shortly afterwards. Fondly remembered for his enormous repertoire of disreputable soldier's jokes that I cannot repeat here. Field Marshal Montgomery had Dolphin on his planning staff as an advisor before the invasion of France on D-Day. It was on Montgomery's recommendation that he got the job as Chief Engineer at AWRE Aldermaston. So he was highly regarded in Army circles.

[@georgeshelton6281]

Did you notice that no high school teenager has ever used this kind of gun for a shooting rampage? I've never seen such, especially in the NBC fictional crime drama series Law & Order SVU.

[@araknidude]

"Why is it called a welrod?" "Because it looks like a, well, rod."

[@lordfarquaadgaming9316]

araknidude Bruh

[@cozmcwillie7897]

araknidude Welwyn Research Est. already had a weapon called a Welgun. 9mm sub-machine-gun. They made a Welpen Wel-Cheroot Wel-Woodbine (cigarette) all fired a bullet of some sort.

[@ginjaboy4584]

Huh, mine doesnt look that smooth or long

[@Plastiklandser]

Well, at least the manufacturing costs less than 1 weld rod

[@K-Riz314]

Brilliant

[@uniquetunic]

I was just playing Sniper Elite 4 and got recommended this video. Guess Big Brother’s looking out.

[@alelokox88]

Literally sameee. PS+ Probably a lot of people have searched this, happened the same with revolvers last year with RDR2 lol

[@funhunter1984]

Same to me

[@npne1253]

Finally someone got it! I use the HDM more tho

[@damonkyle-turner4090]

Unique Tunic lol that’s crazy me too I literally just turned the game off and saw this on KZbin

[@rednaxela9718]

Me too 🙈

[@CertifiedHuntingHornNoob]

Nobody and i mean NOBODY that played sniper elite forgot this

[@atatopatato]

siga mwre malaka gamer tis p00tsas

[@metallicafan114]

Or the Commando series

[@captainremington5109]

The OG game for this gun was Medal of Honor Rising Sun.

[@AeroMittens]

Fallout nv

[@dillonc7955]

What ordinary people see playing Sniper Elite: Pistols: M1911 Walther P38 Webley MKV Welrod What I see: Inferior pistol Inferior pistol Inferior pistol Welrod

[@AmronFortis]

I know we normally say "suppressor," but I have seen a convincing argument to call it a silencer. The original patent called it a "silencer"

[@regan.8077]

That's interesting. Saying "silencer" always felt unprofessional. Like when people call a magazine a clip.

[@AmronFortis]

@@regan.8077 I agree. That's why I was so surprised when I learned that TECHNICALLY it's okay.

[@LIamaLlama554]

Shotgun = spreadgun

[@franklind.roosevelt7416]

It's just as accurate to call it a muffler. That's actually what the technology was first used for, quieting down cars.

[@TommyTombstone]

@@franklind.roosevelt7416 same inventor

[@Kit_Bear]

MOH: Rising Sun One shot, one kill

[@matthewgraton2401]

Played the hell out of that game

[@Mrree250]

I loved this fucking gun in that game, felt so op. That was a great mission as well.

[@Grover91]

Loved this gun. Especially against the bots. Great Times. 👍👍👍

[@jamesbremer5947]

Most op gun in the game

[@mayro4803]

4 star bots vs my bros good times

[@pakistaniobama4212]

Everyone: We wanna hear it shooooot!

[@Apis4]

*Ian shoots it, with the camera about 3 metres away, as in all their range videos, boom about metre above him, and his collar mini mic* *We all watch.* Silence *The concave muzzle tip pushes the sound, as well as scent and residue, in to the victim...or towards the target, away from his body and mic, and at a few metres away, the boom Mic and any camera microphones are too distant to pic it up* (Assuming you want it shot to hear for yourself....they wouldn't still be being fielded in service after seventy five plus years if they didn't work as intended exceptionally well ....and they're intended to not be heard unless you're the one pulling the trigger, or suddenly dying).

[@rainyrivers7109]

that's why I clicked on this video

[@jala5293]

Peter Clarke I don’t care. If you own something you should be able to use it at least a little bit. I own several high value historical guns and I shoot more than a hundred rounds in them every year

[@StinkyRatMan29]

@@jala5293 Read the description. This gun sort of just "wears out" in as few as a dozen shots.

[@sickbonfiresbro]

@@StinkyRatMan29 unless you take it apart and replace the wipes

[@adrianmoss7515]

It's amazing: you get to fifty years old and you can still learn some local history. I live just down the road from Welwyn (generally we don't pronounce the second "w" by the way) in Hatfield. I can tell you loads about Hatfield's WW2 De Havilland factory, but I was completely oblivious to nearby Welwyn's SOE Station IX factory. Thank you!

[@Burningnewt]

the pistol was actually designed to be pressed against the target during firing. the design of the muzzle makes it several decibels quieter when In direct contact, though it is incredibly silent even without being pressed into anything

[@steirqwe7956]

Why not using a knife then? Knifes are well known for being silent.

[@billybadass8242]

Steir Qwe because unless you stab someone in the brain stem they're gonna make a bit of noise

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

Lambroghini Mercy And struggle. Despite of what you see in films men dont die easy

[@techpriest5452]

Glen Stevens and with this you only need a second of contact with the target

[@Nollis]

Although, according to Christopher Lee, who served in RAF Intelligence division, men who are stabbed in the back make surprisingly little noise. This can be seen in the LotR trilogy, where Saruman is stabbed in the back and rather silently falls to his death. Lee was apparently very adamant on this. Here's is an extras clip where they talk about that particular scene: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4W0coWImNCgbLc

[@nickmodmaggamingvids8958]

sights were no Tritium (unavailable at manufacturing time ), the were Radium (dangerous stuff, but available at the time )

[@matiasfpm]

Crazy huh...

[@avi8aviate]

Radium glows orange, right?

[@milmaxleo7268]

@@avi8aviate Radium nor tritium actually glow, it's a flourecent coating the inside of the tritium phial or in the case of Radium is mixed directly. This coating converts the high energy particles of both elements into visible light, and can be one of many colors.

[@avi8aviate]

@@milmaxleo7268 Right.

[@MegaBoilermaker]

@@milmaxleo7268 Also originally used for "luminous watch/clock faces

[@lazydragon2551]

Aaah the memories of sneaking around singapore with this gun in Medal of Honor: Rising Sun.

[@tolkienfan328]

and using it in the multiplayer with my friends through a ps2 multitap

[@gamingcucumber4092]

Panzer Dragon i clicked on the vid only cuz of that....memories

[@rjc0234]

Just checked my shelf, couldnt find rising sun anywhere on it, then checked my PS2, and its the game thats still in the disk tray!

[@mikes-bn7wk]

I miss playing that a lot

[@4grammaton]

I thought I was the only one who recognised the title of this video because of that game.

[@EthanfromEngland-]

Literally everyone: You manufactured the Welrod didnt you...? BSA: *sticks fingers in ears* LALALALALALALAL

[@Moshimulations]

Apparently BSA has defo developed some shame.

[@woodybrighton]

pffft

[@Themanwiththeplan1899]

Still better than the L85

[@drops2cents260]

@@Themanwiththeplan1899 It is said that this is equally true for a pointy stick, but I just can't think of any reason why one would want to insult pointy sticks so much.

[@seumasnatuaighe]

The Brit Special forces also had the 9mm L34 subgun with exactly the same suppression method. When they added some water to the suppressor, all you heard was a polite cough at a distance of a couple of yards.

[@Burningnewt]

this gun is consistently ranked as one of the world's quietest firearms, sharing a designation with the delisle commando carbine, the mk22 hush puppy, and the experimental firearms developed by Russia during the cold war which used self sealing cartridges

[@cg6281]

burning newt true, but dont forget that hush puppy was also used to designate suppressed 10/22 used for riot control (FAIL) in Afghanistan as wrll

[@_____randomguy7737]

burning newt wooooooooowwww so smaaaaart

[@tommytomthms5]

Is it quieter then a gyrojet? I know it's not the same but it is a "gun" in many ways....

[@5786brian]

Metal gear

[@Afanickton]

I can guarantee you, no gamer has ever forgotten the Welrod.

[@purplesweaterboi4763]

I remember it from a similar looking weapon in Fallout New Vegas.

[@sarin_01]

the .22 silenced pistol is based of the ruger iv

[@Briskyyy]

@@purplesweaterboi4763 the silenced .22 I'm pretty sure it's based off the welrod

[@aoyawang3890]

Knew this from Sniper Elite

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

Medal of Honor had those, I loved them.

[@Magic_monkey_man]

Perfectly shaped for hiding in the ol prison wallet

[@cultsartfish795]

Lol😆😆😆☠️

[@captainmorgan2307]

Barrel side out

[@joaopaulogalloclaudino9671]

Just don't accidentally shoot it lol

[@Magic_monkey_man]

@jack daniels I'm sorry that you think that's long

[@cultsartfish795]

@jack daniels Nonsense

[@jacobmcknight4915]

a bolt action suppresor with a pistol grip

[@Zilegil]

Wodentos ! Hasn't even technically got a pistol grip

[@MsZsc]

With a magazine

[@jamiehughes5573]

Now we need a knife bipod

[@Thug_Nuts1]

Jamie Hughes nice neebs reference right there

[@vinnygrumelart7829]

I've been following you for quite some time from here in France Ian, and really, I can't say how much I appreciate your work, countless hours of enjoyment and learning thanks to you, it needs to be said, thanks

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Merci!

[@YoStu242]

"Explosives were more useful than firearms" sounds like Battlefield 2

[@H3LLS.GARAGE]

YoStu so true

[@inf3953]

Every small arms on bf2 had crazy recoil. The bullet never hit the enemy. The most accurate weapons on bf2 only sniper rifle and pistol.

[@harveyknguyen]

@@inf3953 and the machine gun emplacements

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@inf3953 Seeing the hitmark was as rewarding as the kill itself.

[@hangman2869]

The no visible recoil on the weapon animation made me sick everytime

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

Non-essential Trivia: ‘Welwyn’ (The town where the Welrod was manufactured) is pronounced ‘Wellin’ in Brit-speak 🇬🇧 More trivia! : There is a famous pub in Herts (Hertfordshire) : ‘The Clock Welwyn Herts’, which was made to change its name from The Cock, and laughter is now suppressed 🤡

[@peterc2248]

I recall as a lad hearing an infamous name and address - Ivy Likes, The Cockwell Inn, Tillet, Herts - ahh, British schoolboy humour :-)

[@andrewhoward7200]

@@peterc2248 First time I've heard that. I was clearly sheltered, I only knew: Wood John Hants John Underwood, Andover Hants Pathetic really!

[@nicktubby3768]

As a native of Welwyn, I need to go and find out more about where exactly it was manufactured… and yes, if you look in the Guinness World Records, the oldest pub in England is just down the road in St Albans called The Fighting Cocks

[@davefave4351]

There is an actual Cockwell Inn in Liverpool 4.

[@smudgethekat]

There's still a pub/hotel in my home town called The Cock

[@itsssnek810]

i remember Medal Of Honor:Rising Sun for the PS2, the mission in singapore i believe has you use a welrod

[@Mrree250]

eeekaaaj Dude I loved that fucking mission. Then you knock out the germans and steal their uniforms to infiltrate the axis meeting. God that game was goofy but so cool.

[@Ancient1341]

Yes bro its a beast gun!

[@IsaiahWRC]

I saw this video and thought about that right away.

[@ehinton4006]

Used to play with 3 other friends against the computer. Omomo and the ghille guy were monsters

[@zaynomak2425]

Dude. I loved this game. I remember always using this when ww played multiplayer, but I had it on GameCube lol.

[@iysaw]

Who remembers this from Medal of Honor Rising Sun!?!?

[@tylerarnold1970]

Me!

[@keeganholthaus7143]

iysaw yes!

[@TheKilroyman]

Makes me want to play it again! XD

[@warrmalaski8570]

loved the 1 shot kills

[@gunrunner7224]

iysaw yes. i thought it was a single shot weapon cause of it.

[@Soclark01]

Radium sights, actually, not tritium. Tritium wasn't available during the war, as it didn't start to be produced in quantity until the need for neutron sources for fusion bombs.

[@edoedo8686]

Excellent. Easy to follow, clear, explanation of the mechanism. Thanks for reminding us of the myth of the "silencer" and the "pfft" of movies.

[@norman3605]

Tritium sight inserts? Seems unlikely in 1943. Radium? More likely.

[@edoedo8686]

Good point!

[@farmerboy916]

I was so excited that I bailed out of the middle of my other video to watch this. I've wanted to see this forever

[@farmerboy916]

It's a bit crazy to see the stuff that you think you've independently come up with, until you see that other people beat you to it by 75 years. The grip-magazine thing for concealability, for instance

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

+farmerboy916 big flaw with how they designed it,doesn't seem your can take the magazine apart due to the covering

[@farmerboy916]

signs80 Do you mean the 1893 Borchardt had a variant where the grip is the magazine, not where the magazine is merely in the grip, or did you not even watch the video?

[@farmerboy916]

Anthony Williams Well beyond that, it's rather thin and very unergonomic. Which makes sense considering what it is, and how it's meant to be produced cheaply and using parts you already have, but still. The concept could be done far better today and incorporate a much more powerful cartridge as well as use a double stack magazine. Just as how the welrod itself could be improved, you could incorporate a piston cartridge to something similar and have something far more powerful that's probably even quieter.

[@DFX2KX]

using a removable grip as a mag is a pretty clever idea. I know how you feel though, because I got that with the Harmonica gun, like 'hey, I can just make a stick of loaded chambers instead of a cylinder and have a repeating musket/rifled musket'

[@willrogers3793]

I remember seeing this gun in one of those Eyewitness books in my elementary school library, and even back then, it looked odd to me. Looking at it now, it reminds me of those improvised pistols or “pipe guns” that you see in long-running active war zones, just somewhat less “kludged together out of whatever’s available” and more “function over form taken to the extreme”.

[@charliekoughing866]

I love how it looks like something someone threw together in their garage, but actually is pretty advanced

[@richb6933]

They might still make them but BSA went bust in the 1970s. You wouldn't want a gun factory in Birmingham anymore, trust me.

[@robertlund5694]

Now, now. Don't be a biggot.

[@CThyran]

Birmingham must be the British Detroit.

[@aaron1037]

@@CThyran nah, that's Mansfield

[@MilitaryStyx]

@@aaron1037 then is it the British Chicago?

[@martinbrown1913]

@@CThyran the British Islamabad more like it

[@uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh8833]

Does anyone remember this being the best pistol in Medal of Honor Rising Sun?????

[@trevorjohnson6391]

Hands down best gun in the game 1 shot 1 kill Id own bots and friends so damn hard in that game

[@dudeguy818]

Yes I loved using this gun!!

[@mr.m7791]

I miss Medal of Honor!

[@mrjohneeviedean]

One shot kill, absolute beast

[@choppergunner8650]

You could shoot enemies in the toe and they would die xD

[@harryschaefer5887]

Thank you Ian, as usual, a fascinating history lesson. The BSA I'm familiar with is: Boy Scouts of America.I'm pretty sure they're not involved with assassinations. I'm probably not the only viewer who would have liked a test firing of this gun just to hear it.

[@richardcaves3601]

Birmingham Small Arms

[@dellawrence4323]

"Simplicity is the outcome of technical subtlety. It is the goal, not the starting point."

[@Gojiro7]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASSSSSE!!!! do a video on the De Lisle carbine, that thing is soooooo cool and ive never seen anything but flat rendering pictures of it in books :(

[@ForgottenWeapons]

When I can find one...

[@Gojiro7]

Forgotten Weapons Thank you Ian :3

[@rednecksniper4715]

Forgotten Weapons Tim from Military Arms Channel has one talk to him maybe he will let you do a video on it

[@Zbyhonj]

Military Arms Channel has a pretty decent video on De Lisle...

[@Gojiro7]

Zbyhonj can you link me that video?

[@Statusinator]

Would love a video on the De Lisle carbine one day

[@Paelorian]

Very exciting to see a Forgotten Weapons video on the Welrod, and it did not disappoint. Thank you. Thanks especially for including the sound meter testing decibel reading. Not quieter than a .22LR suppressed manual-action. There are quite a lot of myths about the Welrod and DeLisle carbine being far, far quieter than modern suppressed firearms. Indeed there is a widely-circulated 85 decibel claim on the DeLisle, put to bed by modern measurements (which give numbers around 120-130dB if I recall). What I've read is that that 85dB was a legitimate official number, but that the decibel measurements of the era are different from the decibel measurements of today, so it's not a valid number on the modern decibel scale. I don't understand why a modern military unit that had access to Welrods would choose to use them. I expect there are now superior weapons for this purpose. Presumably any unit with access to such specialized and rare weaponry would also have access to more modern captive-piston pistols that I would expect superior performance from, at least in regards to sound level and rapid-fire capability, though honestly I don't recall seeing sound meter measurements of captive-piston ammunition. Captive-piston ammunition I know of is much weaker than 9x19mm, but those pistols are said to be the most silent of all firearms, they do not require a silencer, and they are available in semi-automatic pistols and double-action recovers.

[@marcgeller8]

I remember this gun from Medal of Honor Rising Sun. Sneaking about the docks. Deadly one shotter and it's a gun I've always remembered and loved 💙

[@jokerofMI6]

People who were killed by this gun must really had it coming.

[@movessmitt6427]

"Just-world complex", much?

[@imcallingjapan2178]

@@movessmitt6427 All Nazis had it coming.

[@imcallingjapan2178]

@@Donnyf3841 Fuck off, loser.

[@well_as_an_expert_id_say]

@@imcallingjapan2178 "fuck off, loser" the incel exclaimed over the internet

[@imcallingjapan2178]

@@well_as_an_expert_id_say I'm sure Hitler would be proud to see his legacy: angry trolls on the internet.

[@andrewpotapenkoff7723]

So, basicaly, this pistol loses it's virginity after first shot.

[@uteriel282]

you think it bleeds after the first time too?

[@Cannibal713]

Don't we all

[@kengamble8595]

Yeah, after the first time when the cherry is popped, it's just not the same........BULLSHIT ! 😊 .

[@dad5650]

All guns lose their virginity after the first shot...don't be a racist!😊

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

@@dad5650 nah, the rest of em are skanks.

[@nomad6328]

Holy shit, I remember seeing this gun in a Medal of Honor game.

[@grahamtait2174]

Medal of Honor: Rising Sun had it in a stealth mission on a shipyard

[@olmateubafest]

In singapore!

[@Thatnegroswag]

Rising sun man! Best pistol in the game

[@rekabneb]

Sniper Elite also.

[@olmateubafest]

And Day of Infamy

[@UrbExGear]

I know Im too late to the party but I'm sure on 12:55 they have used Radium-226 luminous paint instead of Tritium which was not common at the time this pistol was made.

[@cammayor522]

My uncle had one, he said they had to be bolt actions as most of the recognisable noise was from actions cycling. His had all the baffles dried out so it wasn't as quiet as it could have been. The same day we were shooting this he was shooting a luger, he was leaning on a door frame and when he fired the ejected cartridge hit the top of the frame came down and cut a chunk out of his ear. We laughed about that for years.

[@peterfeltham8065]

I love listening to Ian, he's a brilliant presenter.

[@rogertycholiz2218]

Peter - He is one great dude. Love to listen to Ian, a brilliant presenter.

[@nono-xw6qd]

Any possibility of getting shooting footage of one of these?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Hopefully some day...

[@Saycomeoutkeegan]

you tease

[@RandyLeftHandy]

Get RoyalNunesuch to make one.

[@treatb09]

come one! we all really want to hear this thing!

[@TheSaladTozzer]

plleeeaaseee!

[@michaelsly267]

One of the few channels I enjoy the video all the way through.

[@pankajtrails6153]

Wanted to see you fire it and test the sound suppressing capibility

[@fromthemill9781]

In his autobiography, "Blood on Borneo" Jack Sue used this weapon. If l recall correctly the only sound it makes is a click, fwiw..

[@TheDarwiniser]

Practically the go-to channel if you want to know everything possible about a historic firearm. Excellent content. Many thanks. EDIT: (apparently *an historic* has been retired, *a historic* is now acceptable ;)

[@DEeMONsworld]

unless you are adhering to the Chicago school literary standard and citation format :)

[@cluek9780]

I’ll always use an, but I WILL stop gasping when “a” is used. Promise

[@paulweisgerber7654]

I was always taught “a” preceded a word that started with a consonant, “an” preceded a word that started with a vowel. With the exception of a word with a silent consonant, such as “honorable”.

[@chickenman1801]

@@paulweisgerber7654 u waz taut wrong NIGGA

[@thisiswhatilike54]

Chicken Wilson Naw homie. I wuz tot dat 2

[@tank832]

in the game Medal of Honor: Rising Sun the welrod was used in one or two of the campaign missions, but instead of a magazine it was a single shot pistol. is there any evidence that this may have existed?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Nope.

[@cardboard_shaft]

i loved that game, as a matter of fact I'm gonna play it right now start to finish. great game.

[@evanwickstrom5698]

Actually, if I remember correctly, there was a single shot version of the Welrod created. However, it wasn't designed to be fired as a pistol, it was designed as a sleeve gun, where you would store it in your sleeve, press it against the target, and fire it. So it was more of a melee weapon with bullets than a ranged weapon. Saw one at a museum in Britain once. It's pretty much just a Welrod without the magazine. The mythos surrounding it says that the creator finished work on it, put on a long coat with large sleeves, walked to the town square, and fired it into a sandbag. Supposedly, no one noticed.

[@itsconnorstime]

I bet that was just for balancing, being a one hit kill weapon.

[@evanwickstrom5698]

Galax-Zee Nowhere near that small. Picture shoving this without a magazine/handle up your sleeve, then popping it out like a hidden blade from Assassin's Creed. But with bullets.

[@SUBCITIZEN666]

I’m currently playing sniper elite 4 and you’re issued one of these straight away. Loving it!!!

[@TheIshikawaRin]

Sniper Elite II and III anyone? EDIT: And Sniper Elite IV now.

[@MediumTim]

Silent storm and hitman 2 as well.

[@mongoose2040]

Pfft, I used the Pay to Win Hi-Standard for III. PTW FTW.

[@automatedminer7158]

mongoose2040 "pay to win" a.k.a. pay for skill

[@ranwolf76]

I just finished playing through SE2 again yesterday

[@Fattoxthegreat]

Thank you. I was struggling to recall which game I played that had this gun.

[@2utubepace]

I actually found a dealer that was selling a very similar pistol to this called a veterinary pistol. It was very similar design but it had a removable silencer and it had the grip magazine. A pretty awesome set up i must say

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

Veterinary pistols have a bolt which extends and retracts, essentially sending the bolt out the end, then retracting. This simply punches a hole. Like a very large hole punch. Contact must be made for effective use.

[@cernunnos8917]

One of the modern companies is producing a modern version of the welrod under the cheeky name of “veterinary pistol 9” or VP9, which is what they’re referring to, not an actual captive bolt pistol

[@2utubepace]

@@cernunnos8917 I’ll have to look that up

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Yes, I’ve seen that too👍

[@userbosco]

Have you shot one? Would love to hear it fired. Great vid as always!

[@carsons5750]

Here's a video of the 9mm version kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5uTi4Srp8mMlbM

[@deph5183]

The only pistol I use in Sniper Elite 3-4. Glad you got around to doing a video on it.

[@Gazulolima]

De Lisle Carbine!! you should make a video of that gun next.

[@themanhimself1229]

He did

[@CUSTARDD]

it kind of looks like a police baton combined with a gun

[@salokin3087]

Please do a full video on the FAL and G3

[@joekurtz6587]

Salokin Sekwah go check inrange , think they did vids comparing them

[@CAL1MBO]

lptomtom ikr

[@RJM1011]

He's already done those !

[@YouMockMe]

The bolt action info was neat and REALLY made sense logically speaking. Cheers!

[@silverrain530]

This was my favorite gun in Medal of Honor: Rising Sun

[@jt5029]

Me too.

[@tonglianheng]

So, the hose piece used to represent Lego minifigure gun is actually a realistic representation of the real thing.

[@hunter35474]

That's the first thing I thought of!

[@roydied15]

When you find out over christmas dinner, that Ian was your cousin's husband's roommate in college.

[@benn454]

"What does that make us?" ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

[@backyardblasters]

Medal of honour baby

[@john-wx7gr]

Conspiracy theory: the acorn cop heard this gun

[@madgeordie4469]

When you have someone coming for you with one of these things, you know that they mean business. I believe that the British (and other) governments went to immense lengths to get these weapons and others like them (the suppressed Mk II Sten guns for one) out of civilian hands after the war as a number of unpopular decisions had to be made. Trust politicians to look after their own!

[@MegaBoilermaker]

Always.

[@sR4447]

medal of honor rising sun?

[@tamahawkins2815]

silvan rechsteiner Tanaka

[@Ghost_Of_SAS]

Also Sniper Elite V2

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

Only game where .32 Auto to the dick will kill.

[@gaston-alegre-stotzer]

aaand Day of Infamy

[@ikegel1923]

YES! i was looking for this

[@jambutty2218]

Thanks for clearing up the difference between a surpressor and a silencer.

[@bdzelda5849]

I'm loving this channel! Great content on history and the engineering. I dont even own a gun or even have a license. Great work. Respect from Australia.

[@a.person1805]

As a fellow non gun owner, do you have a VR headset? There is this game called H3VR which is basically just realistic as possible guns in VR.

[@withclarity1197]

When you think the police is carrying a tonfa, while in actuality it's a Welrod mk2a

[@blogobre]

Ian, I question 122.8db being the figure, that's REALLY loud. I thought it was like 60db

[@TheLastPariah89]

I think he meant a reduction of that amount? At least that's how I interpreted it.

[@gosonegr]

Well, the louder noise is when you're directly in front of the barrell, if you're around, a bit side far, like 2 o 3 meters, would be probably half of that. It's common for sharp shooters to listen to, if the sound is loud and clear, you're in front of the enemy barrell, if is kinda like wind blow plus a far hammer hit, you're on a side.

[@tillmannfischer]

Using sound pressure alone to describe how loud something feels is virtually impossible. Sound pressure, frequency spectrum and specified time of a signal work together to create vastly different levels of loudness for noises with the same sound pressure. That said, the number is wrong anyway: Timelapse (given as the source to Wikipedia's article on the gun) gives an average sound pressure of 73dB at about 3m (10ft) from the muzzle as the official number from the OSS. Not only is that sound pressure level really low, the way the suppressor in the Welrod works spreads the frequencies of a shot well around in the lower part of the audible range - a low frequency-signal at the same sound pressure sounds less loud to a human receiver than a high frequency-signal.

[@billhacks]

A good example would be thumping base on a car stereo versus a treble "squeal". They could both be at the same dB level but the squeal will sound louder to the human ear.

[@alexmoody9259]

A large proportion of the outskirts of Welwyn garden city were used as a decoy for the air fields in Hatfield. Welwyn garden also used to hold ICI manufacturing plants were rumour has it that supermarin spitfire canopies were produced.

[@aferdix]

From Italy: never had such a complete explanation. Rich in real details. There's a wide, deep knowledge behind this all.

[@iorinmirgach8802]

2:20 "You don't call something a silencer, you call it a suppressor" 2:44 "Of course that's done because you have a quite large volume of silencer here"

[@Lankythepyro]

Yeah, listen to what he said in between. When functioning, it does really completely silence the gun

[@fakename287]

Damn you really just ignored everything he said in between, huh?

[@robertlund5694]

I was waiting for an expert to pipe up and correct the guy at some point. Thanks

[@valentinovale5338]

Wow . I can just imagine the real 007 with this in his pocket in 1943 making his way across occupied france befire the invasion . Legendary .

[@levairkrivalnoir6842]

He'll be needing cargo pockets for it, but the vision is definitely there. I would be happen if new James Bond games came out, haven't played any since From Russia with Love on the GameCube, but I also haven't really kept track of if there have or have not been new games put out.

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

@@levairkrivalnoir6842 New one coming up sometime in the future I believe.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Why are all of my dream guns so unobtainable?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Because their desire ability is specifically based on how scarce they are?

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Apparently I only like guns that are highly desirable and rare.

[@ThijsVanDalen]

that's why they are highly desirable, you probably would not care about them if they where common.

[@firstlast2594]

I have one , that my grandad had xD

[@AMRAMRS]

TheGoldenCaulk x GOTT MIT UNS ! Shots fired! (Lmao?)

[@ollievw3450]

I had the chance to shoot with the B&T ‘veterinary gun’, which was based of this. A real kick-ass tool I can tell you, super quiet

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

Welwyn in Hertfordshire England is pronounced “wellin “

[@JohnHughesChampigny]

And naming all their stuff "Welxxx" was a massive breach of operational security that could only happen because SOE were a bunch of enthusiastic amateurs. Check out the colour codes that the UK invented to avoid stupid mistakes like that, or the frankly silly names used for operations, e.g. operation CORPORATE.

[@Fishlord136]

The British don’t deserve the respect of correct pronunciation

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

@@Fishlord136 do you mean the English?

[@davew4998]

@@Fishlord136 I say, pass the Worcestershire sauce Mr Cholmondley Warner.

[@MegaBoilermaker]

@@MARTINA-gc3tq Welwyn is actually a Celtic word.

[@ekscalybur]

Silent eh? I would totally say "pew pew pew" while shooting this. :P

[@PatrickWunsch.]

Eks calybur kabush

[@tyvole2387]

Actually only "pew" because you would then have to sneak away to reload...:-)

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

pew.....schlick schwing schlick scchlack......pew again

[@gihrenzabi7271]

+Ragimund VonWallat Dat childhood sound....

[@lordeden1475]

A new or very new Welrod is silent bearing in mind that it will be used whilst there are natural sounds going on1

[@InfamousAMH]

This is my favorite gun that’s ever been produced.

[@thysquid2157]

What is your favorite gun that’s never been produced then?

[@thysquid2157]

Michael Oneil, there was no rude intention, only wanted to play around.

[@InfamousAMH]

Michael Oneil trying? Are you underestimating the meme?

[@od1452]

Thanks. The Welrod is one of the most interesting designs. There was another version that resembled a flashlight which could be carried in a coat sleeve. As a point of interest, I've heard a suppressed Sten that was so quiet all I could hear was the action chatter..although I admit I only heard it fire a few rounds.

[@willnewing4063]

I'm English and live in Welwyn just outside London! (It's actually pronounced Well-in)

[@jamesoneill6322]

Well in lad from newcastle so i should stereotypically mug you now

[@michaelphoscar7509]

@@kennyyy4L I'm from Northfield bow down to me all of you

[@jamesoneill6322]

fair point

[@Cry_about_it_lmao]

@@michaelphoscar7509 I am American and also southern, so point me to school that has a large amount of black children.

[@hux2000]

I'm from London, so I shall proceed to order all of you up the apples and pears to bed.

[@abbybonilla4511]

I waited so long for someone to tell us the bedtime story of the Welrod. Thanks Ian!

[@TheIrishGamerGuy]

I remember this from Medal of Honour Rising Sun on the PS2.

[@l-shadow1775]

Same but had to reload constantly cause of one bullet use

[@bustingdogarchive4240]

It's in fallout new vegas as well

[@carolinethompson7173]

Station IX(9) was located at Welwyn (pronounced Wel-in) Garden City, outside London. Thus the gun became Wel (from Welwyn) and rod from gangster slang for a gun. According to Wikipedia on firing the report could be as low as 73dB, useful 'piece' to have around.

[@WiseSnake]

Finally! The Welrod. I was hoping you'd get your hands on one of these someday. :)

[@joelhall5124]

A minor point, I know, but it's pronounced "Wellin"

[@AdvancedReconomics]

ahh you beat me to it. was defo a contest of who could be the first brit to correct that

[@Tunkkis]

The British do love their rear locking lugs.

[@mrmadmax4523]

Eetu Tunkkari We love locking in the rear GG

[@brucelee3388]

You would have to look up some fairly technical long range shooting books, but rear locking lugs result in something called 'negative compensation' IIRC where groups become proportionately smaller at long (700 yds+) ranges.

[@fdsdh1]

Eetu Tunkkari it worked so why not. Wouldn't want a rear locking 30-06 though that round is stupidly powerful

[@sparey4431]

With magazine: Welrod pistol Without magazine: World’s smallest bazooka

[@azuredragonofnether5433]

'Wel' that's something I don't see every day and yet works 'wel'.

[@BlackAngelWings]

This gun was actually able to be played with in Medal of Honor:Rising sun,a PS2 game I remember it being a 1 shot kill gun,really silent

[@jstyxx4110]

I think it’s also in Fallout: New Vegas.

[@plusequalminusk4203]

Does it accept glock magazines?

[@tranq45]

PlusEqualMinusK : Yes, but no bipod or laser rails. :/

[@patrickmacready1779]

+Foxmanded42 how

[@JimBobe]

No....

[@baystgrp]

What a weapon. I see at least six ways you can fuck this up. Used by a Resistance operator in a real situation, I wonder if and how many times this was used successfully. The other Resistance weapon airdropped by the thousands was the .45 ‘Liberator’ single shot pistol.Dropped in. Cardboard box with a few rounds of ammunition, and a card with simple instructions, and the legend in several languages that said ‘Use this to get yourself a better weapon.’ Said everything that needed to be said.