Great Artists Steal

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Andrew Cunningham

Andrew Cunningham

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@Ech_The_Sentiant
@Ech_The_Sentiant 2 ай бұрын
"Great Artists Steal" - Andrew Cunningham after harvesting my kindeys Edit: This entire video is unbelievably based
@Hanandro-C
@Hanandro-C 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate editing the comment but still not editing the mistypo
@Ech_The_Sentiant
@Ech_The_Sentiant 2 ай бұрын
@@Hanandro-C Professionals have standards
@catmaster2231
@catmaster2231 2 ай бұрын
@@Hanandro-C typo? his kindneys were stolen.
@padriazozzriaorizifian8672
@padriazozzriaorizifian8672 2 ай бұрын
how very kind of him, ey?
@alzhanvoid
@alzhanvoid 2 ай бұрын
​@@Ech_The_Sentiant Which is why he has none, and doesn't care about the typo 👍
@inactivesnail
@inactivesnail 2 ай бұрын
I think the soul in deltarune represents plagiarism
@Cruxin
@Cruxin 2 ай бұрын
The third entity is just copying off the player
@HouseHaved
@HouseHaved 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE plagarism
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature 2 ай бұрын
@@HouseHavedbased
@padriazozzriaorizifian8672
@padriazozzriaorizifian8672 2 ай бұрын
@@Cruxin I don't like the third entity.
@al_eggs
@al_eggs 2 ай бұрын
when you collect all of the shadow crystals you get the true ending (a 4 hour bossfight with hbomberguy)
@jjju3
@jjju3 2 ай бұрын
"take what you like and rip out what you don't, and then fill the gaps with yourself" i might throw up that line hit me so hard.
@FireheadLazzo
@FireheadLazzo 2 ай бұрын
I stopped washing the dishes to look over and just STARE. What a beautiful cap to the video.
@igrazm2437
@igrazm2437 2 ай бұрын
a line gone wild, gone sexual
@silverstar4505
@silverstar4505 2 ай бұрын
Yeah.
@CalamitasCalliope
@CalamitasCalliope 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, i think since the H. Bomb video people have gotten way too excited about "defending" copyright law. There has been the philosophy of the soon to be billionaire. The type of people who make 100,000 a year, but freak the fuck out whenever taxes are levied against billionaires. That mentality has been challenged a lot in recent years, but one part of it that isn't challenged enough is how this applies to copyright law. Copyright law does not protect artists. At all. It protects corporations and gives them ammo to attack artists. Microsoft could steal RAM on a level that is obvious to anyone who is familiar with it and it would be very unlikely for Andrew to see any compensation for it. And on the opposite end, Nintendo could decide on a whim that RAM is too close to any of their countless game design patents and sue him into oblivion. Creating art of any kind is an inherently iterative process. While it is very possible for some people to go to far in the process, the H. Bomb's video is a good example, but as long as laws exist for this kind of thing they will only be used to empower corporations and hurt artists. And since these laws are not going anywhere then people need to resist the urge to be white knights for copyright law.
@superduper5831
@superduper5831 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the point of h bomber guy’s vid was to encourage people to do their own research in order to stop supporting ppl who straight up spread misinformation. i think ppl took it the wrong way tho based on what ur saying o(-(
@funnylittlecreature
@funnylittlecreature 2 ай бұрын
THIS IS REAL AS FUCK!!!!!!!
@godlyvex5543
@godlyvex5543 2 ай бұрын
@@superduper5831 I think that there is something to be said about not just ripping stuff 1:1 with no effort put in aside from your voiceover. Illuminaughti (is that how you spell it) was the one that upset me the most, since her content was basically just reading words on a page out loud and presenting it as her own thoughts. James somerton was bad for a few reasons, his plagiarism wasn't really justifiable but he had put in some effort at least. I dislike internet historian for other reasons, but I feel like the man in the hole video actually added a lot to the story by using visuals (though it was cringe AF that he didn't credit the article and just let everyone assume he wrote the story). In general I think if you credit things (in an obvious way and make it clear you are not taking credit) then it's fine to, well, steal. If you create a voiceover and animation for an article, I do think you should be able to release that to be enjoyed by people, even if the original creator didn't want you to do that. What tips it into being actually morally wrong (in my opinion) is passing the work off as your own.
@Filloax
@Filloax 2 ай бұрын
No, copyright law still protects creators (not only art) in a way that is important to have. Without it, corporations would steal stuff that looks good from artists with no remorse at all, and small creators would have no means to protect themselves.
@KhairiHamed
@KhairiHamed 2 ай бұрын
@@Filloaxa double edged sword, would you say?
@ShayyTV
@ShayyTV 2 ай бұрын
you put this into words in a way I simply couldn't, outstanding video and great points about the iterations of genres and video games in general
@saulgoodmanactionfigure
@saulgoodmanactionfigure 2 ай бұрын
no way its
@deletesystem32for_morefun
@deletesystem32for_morefun 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@saulgoodmanactionfigureHoly Shit Its's World-Famous UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE Speedrunner Shayy
@saulgoodmanactionfigure
@saulgoodmanactionfigure 2 ай бұрын
@@deletesystem32for_morefun hi its me shray dealt a rune
@tsudough
@tsudough 2 ай бұрын
whats interesting is this applies to literally everything else. The biggest thing ive learned as a jazz musician is to listen to other people, it's how you build your ideas.
@32th
@32th 2 ай бұрын
All I gotta say to that is: The Lick
@loziclec.1295
@loziclec.1295 2 ай бұрын
This process is really fun when it comes to drawing imo. I see a cool picture, try to draw something in that style, realize that the process of drawing like that isn’t enjoyable, and make adjustments until it is.
@sillowillo
@sillowillo 2 ай бұрын
​@@32th:(
@AugustRx
@AugustRx 2 ай бұрын
Black people aren't gonna like that
@Kowka_official
@Kowka_official 2 ай бұрын
I read the title as "Great artist seal" and was dissapointed to not see a seal paint for 19 minutes straight there is something wrong with me
@ramirosilvaalmeida6768
@ramirosilvaalmeida6768 2 ай бұрын
Wonder posting
@sirexilon49
@sirexilon49 2 ай бұрын
No, this is a perfectly normal reaction
@keffen281
@keffen281 2 ай бұрын
Wonder speech bubble
@galdoug8918
@galdoug8918 2 ай бұрын
I was expecting a video essay on why Kiss from a Rose is such a great song
@raph2550
@raph2550 2 ай бұрын
No, there is something wrong with the video as you pointed out. There is no seal paint
@kuraijen
@kuraijen 2 ай бұрын
I don't know the exact quote or where I remember it from, but there's an explanation I heard about the concept of "great artists steal" where being able to properly implement so many ideas from different sources and understanding why they work/are enjoyed shows that you are immersed in your craft and are well learned from other successful creatives. RAM shows that it can stand on its own ideas with confidence while also paying respectful homage to its shining predecessor before it, and as someone who has been struggling in finding their legs in understanding the balance of "stealing" and "original idea," I find this video breakdown incredibly inspiring. Hoping for a stellar launch for RAM, y'all deserve the incoming success ahead!
@catpurrito5586
@catpurrito5586 2 ай бұрын
great artists learn (steal)
@reacespieces1551
@reacespieces1551 2 ай бұрын
"Oh yeah, I just remembered that channel that does Deltarune sometimes! Here let me go back and watch a few! Wow that Gaster video is still pretty cool, I wonder when Andrew last uploade- Oh... Literally right now."
@Llamallove-j6h
@Llamallove-j6h 2 ай бұрын
Literally just happened to me too
@Yellowpikachu1
@Yellowpikachu1 2 ай бұрын
me, a half twit: why am i being slapdabbed deltarune theory videos-wait this guy has other videos- WAIT HES A GAME DEV
@KaijuRhino
@KaijuRhino 2 ай бұрын
"we love andrew cunningham" we all say in unison.
@stygiansilver9320
@stygiansilver9320 2 ай бұрын
We love andrew cunningham!
@_m6_
@_m6_ 2 ай бұрын
we love andrew cunningham
@viceisverycool
@viceisverycool 2 ай бұрын
we love andrew cunningham
@komadino
@komadino 2 ай бұрын
we love andrew cunningham
@Ava-uq5dh
@Ava-uq5dh 2 ай бұрын
we love andrew cunningham
@ramirosilvaalmeida6768
@ramirosilvaalmeida6768 2 ай бұрын
oh you thought that because it wasn't a stream i wouldn't give you money? you are a fool jokes aside, thank you so much for making a video like this, its easy when you make art to form a paranoia over it, that its less than the sum of its parts, that you are not enough to make it be worth something, fear of being a broken record instead of an artist anxiety over stuff like this doesn't go away by thinking harder about it on your own, it disappears when others can share their experiences and make themselves vulnerable enough to show their fears and confront them as well as arming others with the power of knowledge and stories your work is not just good, its important, you help people, and i wanted you to know that
@fish5671
@fish5671 2 ай бұрын
Is that the argentine peso ?
@ramirosilvaalmeida6768
@ramirosilvaalmeida6768 2 ай бұрын
@@fish5671 yes
@randomperson-pf6iy
@randomperson-pf6iy 2 ай бұрын
@@ramirosilvaalmeida6768how much would that be in dollars
@TokenOracle
@TokenOracle 2 ай бұрын
@@randomperson-pf6iy with a basic google, about $1, though I don't know how much 1000 ARS could buy you in Argentinia.
@borb5353
@borb5353 2 ай бұрын
100% agree this man is incredible
@vizard5130
@vizard5130 2 ай бұрын
"And its a lesson i learned...after all, i stole all his audience. And his trophy" WHAT A LINE. WHAT A LIIIINE AHAHAHAHA
@darksentinel082
@darksentinel082 2 ай бұрын
I feel like “stealing” ideas in a creative manner like this is not only inevitable, but NECESSARY. Like. In order to take the time and effort to create a game, you need to Love games. I mean LOVE them. And if you love something it will influence you, and your creative direction. That’s the beauty of video games as a community. People play games and love games and make games because of and through that love, which makes more people love games and make their own.
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 2 ай бұрын
I kinda think of how JJBA Part 1 is basically Fist of the North Star except written by a crazy person. Realistically, it's impossible not to "steal" ideas because your creative drive is inherently coloured by the media you consume. I think the mark of a good artist is understanding that, and either evolving the concept or putting your own spin onto it, or both ideally. Edit: I just realized that description of JJBA is, word for word, from a years old Super Eyepatch Wolf video, decided to keep it in because it kinda strengthens my point lol
@Karmonit
@Karmonit 2 ай бұрын
Calling this stealing is honestly an exaggeration. It's not really stealing in any meaningful, it's inspiration.
@phoenixmesmer3396
@phoenixmesmer3396 2 ай бұрын
Your "we came up with the swapping mechanic on our own even though there are other games with a similar premise" reminds me of a story I was writing on-and-off in middle school that I was SO proud of for its ~uniqueness~, and then 5 years later I watched Blade Runner for the first time and realized that was exactly what I was writing. Like, down to calling Replicants...Replicants. Coincidences happen sometimes and it's fucking hilarious.
@SilkMoth-w1c
@SilkMoth-w1c 2 ай бұрын
Hbomb accidentally turning the entire internet into Nintendo lawyers is probably the most annoying thing to happen in the creative space. Also OWL BOY MENTION!!!!!
@jobber24601
@jobber24601 2 ай бұрын
There's a good Jack Kirby quote about stealing, "If you think a man draws the type of hands that you want to draw, steal 'em. Take those hands."
@iiiiitsmagreta1240
@iiiiitsmagreta1240 2 ай бұрын
"Wait no get away from me with that knife that's not what I meant-" Jack Kirby
@geno_stars
@geno_stars 2 ай бұрын
I've desperately wanted to star developing a game for quite some time, but struggled with the feeling of unoriginality. I've done all sorts of little projects but nothing I have ever worked on went anywhere because I would tell myself "this is just a shiddy version of _____"... I have so many fond memories and an obsession over gamefeel, so in my mind, I want to take those feelings and amalgamate them together. Certain little aspects I wanted to basically steal from other games and give my own little twist to. Your process of "stealing" bits from other games, all leading up to a singular original mechanic is incredibly honest and... well, it makes a lot of sense. It's inspirational and realistic. One day, you might just play a new indie game without realizing that you're directly responsible for the developer finding the conviction to unapologetically make it. I think I really needed to hear all of this. Thank you.
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 2 ай бұрын
So there's an anecdote I couldn't fit into the video... when Toby and I won that award at IGF, we were ushered into this dark backstage area and interviewed by some press, but then on the walk back we passed this shadowy figure just standing backstage. It turned out he was Rami Ismail, co-creator of Nuclear throne. We shook his hand and deliriously explained how big of an inspiration his game was to ours, and he replied with some jedi-ass shit like "one day, someone else will be on that stage thanking you for inspiring them". Cool guy.
@turquoise7817
@turquoise7817 2 ай бұрын
@@andrew_cunningham holy shit lol, good to know he's that cool in person too
@DonMerigano
@DonMerigano 2 ай бұрын
I myself have an idea of an interesting twist in a vampire survivors-like genre that can make for a good game, developed full lore all interactions and how the balance is supposed to balance, but my ADHD ass can't sit through a single debugging session
@Sh1penfire
@Sh1penfire 2 ай бұрын
@@DonMerigano Good luck, I get the pain Also have ADHD, was debugging a tile-based heat system for a game mod project endlessly until I just gave up and shifted the mod around things I knew worked and tried to twist them around the mod's new mechanics
@bonisson_
@bonisson_ 2 ай бұрын
This is actually scary precise timing. I'm making my own game inspired by Undertale and some other anime and games I like, and I was worried that I wasn't actually creating anything original. The fact that Toby himself basically did the same thing really made me feel better. I really hope I can help by wishlisting your game !
@void-creature
@void-creature 2 ай бұрын
That might unironically be the most effective call to action I've ever seen in a KZbin video, and like most I've seen about 42 billion of those.
@coldcalzone7071
@coldcalzone7071 2 ай бұрын
RAMMING OUT IN APPROXIMATELY 42 DAYS
@zymosan99
@zymosan99 2 ай бұрын
finally, I can download RAM without getting a virus.
@MomoSweetPeach
@MomoSweetPeach 2 ай бұрын
Damn this videos overall message is exactly how i was feeling with seeing how proudly Toby Fox wears his inspirations on his sleeve that realization that learning and copying from other things isn't shameful, but when done earnestly, is transformative and evolutionary. Great vid, my guy
@pootsiii8178
@pootsiii8178 2 ай бұрын
Very few things inspire me to make games or even just play music or whatever I'm interested in as much as your videos. I don't know what it is, but the way you lay out the creative process is so interesting, it's definitely helped by how consistently great your editing has been over the years. The speech on how media can just happen to you really resonated with me as well, another person who has been brainrotted by Undertale from the age of 13 to 22. I really wish Xylem Studiios the very best, and I'll be there when RAM launches.
@dodge7246
@dodge7246 2 ай бұрын
"Take what you like, rip out what you don't, then fill the gaps with yourself" Ah yes, therapy As someone hoping to make games some day: This was unbelievably inspiring Can't wait to steal from RAM
@RobinSpellbinder04
@RobinSpellbinder04 2 ай бұрын
There's a KZbinr named Ludwig who fully admits that all his ideas come from a "yoink and twist" method where he takes a thing or two, and then change them enough to make something interesting, and it's unironically a really solid way to think about getting ideas
@lek289
@lek289 2 ай бұрын
I will say, I don't know if I'll ever get the opportunity but I'd like to steal the "style system as currency" idea for a game of a completely different genre at some point. Great video on the creative process Mr Cunningham.
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 2 ай бұрын
do it
@technobeagle9598
@technobeagle9598 2 ай бұрын
This is a fucking masterclass in indie game marketing. Really really good video too but like goddamn if the purpose of writing this script was to have a video to publish now so people would wishlist I cannot imagine a better topic or execution especially in how sincere this is. I’m sure this video doesn’t exist solely to generate wishlists but holy shit this is a well crafted conveyer belt to get people who love indie games to respect your game and hit the funny button. Everything down to the goddamn thumbnail.
@KingBreadSlice
@KingBreadSlice 2 ай бұрын
Well this is exactly what i needed to get myself back into game development. I was worried that what i was planning took too much dna from RAM, but now im motivated to continue and make the worst RAM clone there ever was!
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 2 ай бұрын
do it
@shnitzeedumple
@shnitzeedumple 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah dawg, do it!
@CalvinNoire
@CalvinNoire 2 ай бұрын
​@@andrew_cunningham Andrew, please do a game jam where people are tasked in making a RAM clone lol.
@idiotmgee7368
@idiotmgee7368 2 ай бұрын
The final monologue - that about breaking a game's skeleton and fashioning a throne out of the pieces - makes me think of one word only: Sublation! You will overcome these games and create something entirely new, whose ultimate purpose is to be sublated again. This is the development of history, encapsulated in gamedev. Wishlisting RAM immediately!
@lillycutie3806
@lillycutie3806 2 ай бұрын
i love this video i love the subtitle “how i learned to stop worrying and love the creative process,” that is never brought up directly but pierces me through the heart we truly stand on the shoulders of giants, and i think the cursed mirror is just more proof of why games are so good, and i couldnt possibly explain the breadth of why. well paced, well spoken, and captivates me in a way that i want to keep watching of my own volition. im bad at being concise but i loved it :]
@chaosbeam4654
@chaosbeam4654 2 ай бұрын
Why does sans look like he’s about to mug me
@sergio_circoloide
@sergio_circoloide 2 ай бұрын
he is
@SZvenM
@SZvenM 2 ай бұрын
Because he is a great artist
@ChanceTheCheetah
@ChanceTheCheetah 2 ай бұрын
The speech towards the end is really powerful, I found myself rewatching that last quarter of the video (basically the whole section with Heart of the Mountain) multiple times, it's really effective stuff
@randomlittleidot
@randomlittleidot 2 ай бұрын
“great artists steal” payday 2:
@colonel_yuri
@colonel_yuri 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE STEALING, STEAL FROM THE RICH GIVE TO MYSELF
@derpymule7977
@derpymule7977 2 ай бұрын
This video also addresses why AI art is bad. It’s not because it’s stealing, because AI “steals” in the exact same way literally all art does. It’s because AI doesn’t have that original and personal core to build around, and that’s why it always feels so empty and purposeless. Stop accusing AI of theft. If you are, you’re also accusing basically all artists ever of theft too. AI art is bad for so many much more meaningful reasons than its facsimile of inspiration.
@MadamLava094
@MadamLava094 2 ай бұрын
Andrew "Toby Fox" Cunningham continues to have excellent and well-formatted takes Definitely heavily resonate with the "cursed mirror" aspect of engaging with games as artistic works, I really do like to comprehend what makes them tick and how those pieces could be put together
@BowMannnnn
@BowMannnnn 2 ай бұрын
amazing video! I love that you stressed that it doesn't matter if stealing ideas isn't "creative", since as long as the greater whole is creative and awesome enough, that's what people will remember it for. Genuienly a wonderful message that I feel like more artists need to here!
@onionstrange
@onionstrange 2 ай бұрын
God I really hope the video doesn’t flop, seeing the views drop on the last 2 devlogs was disheartening. Your videos are THE best I’ve ever watched. Period. They’re just that good. (Also a frequent, to an unhealthy degree, vod watcher. Very comfy streams) Thanks for all the effort you’ve put into your stuff and hoping for the successful release of the game. 30 hours on a demo alone seem promising enough to me!
@xerveeon
@xerveeon 2 ай бұрын
The music choices, editing, and message are phenomenal. I have worried - as many others have - that my ideas are too derivitive. Your shining a light on the degree that such a thing matters is vitally important and I thank you sincerely for it.
@RBrito-fd4lc
@RBrito-fd4lc 2 ай бұрын
This video convinced me to play the demo and it's one of the few times where a youtuber game actually resonated with what i usually play. Hope you and the team good luck moving forward!
@etmason
@etmason 2 ай бұрын
Dude you’re amazing with words holy crap. The one rant at the end about utilizing the cursed mirror was BARS
@ieuansmith518
@ieuansmith518 Ай бұрын
I have never heard of you. And god, do I hate myself for not knowing you existed; I don't know how to describe it, but there's something kinetic about how you speak and edit that I like. Take my subscription and have a fantastic day. (PS: This game looks sick. And I love all the references you've put into this video.)
@BlueNSL
@BlueNSL 2 ай бұрын
you can now form a parasocial relationship with a video game's success simply by clicking the wishlist button on the store page. years from now, when Northernlion is playing RAM and yapping about how becoming a VTuber improved his female viewership, you can say "i did that. i made this game blow up in popularity."
@maipeikko3151
@maipeikko3151 2 ай бұрын
Bro just came up with the anthropophagic manifesto all over again but game style. Let's. Go.
@angelnati8297
@angelnati8297 2 ай бұрын
anthropophagic manifesto mentioned
@wisdomax2891
@wisdomax2891 2 ай бұрын
this is actually incredible advice and i feel like you just dispelled hundreds of hours of future suffering that i would have endured due to a fear of unoriginality. the least i can do is wishlist your game. thank you.
@VForceWave
@VForceWave 2 ай бұрын
I said this on your first video and I will say it again, you have an insane talent for selecting the best possible clips for whatever point you are trying to make. Getting jumpscared with totono and yandev's coding at those exact moments was wild. RAM is wishlisted, I'll play the demo this weekend.
@rannynihilius8481
@rannynihilius8481 2 ай бұрын
As someone who works on his own big collection of ideas art thing for almost 10 years, this video really helped me better grasp my use of inspiration in my own work. Thank you.
@FreedomTaleTrio
@FreedomTaleTrio 2 ай бұрын
15:56 Honestly though this just tells me that palworld should win the lawsuit Nintendo is brining against them.
@cyronski
@cyronski 2 ай бұрын
i can't put into words how this video made me realize how important it is to take inspiration from others, take it to heart, and never to shy away from those same inspirations
@quazimanipulation4121
@quazimanipulation4121 2 ай бұрын
FINALLY someone who doesn't mindlessly defend copyright law as an overcorrection for a.i art
@Yakal001
@Yakal001 14 күн бұрын
''If a game's screen ever flashes at you like a cursed mirror and smites you with inspiration'' I think this video might have done just that to be completely honest. The final speech of this video is something I've been waiting for so long to be put into words... Thank you Mr. Cunningham.
@bigkebizino8970
@bigkebizino8970 2 ай бұрын
The Usage of Epic Battle Fantasy footage in this made me smile. As someone who thinks these games are masively underrated, its nice to see them appear in other places. Really liked the video as well, as someone starting lots of ideas that are directly inpired by other art, I wholeheartdly agree with its message.
@DyxoXinoro
@DyxoXinoro 2 ай бұрын
This video helped me realize how to phrase something I've felt was the case for years. All creative projects -- be it game dev, film, art, or drawing -- is ultimately the same as playing with legos. Your inspirations are the bricks, and the core concept is the base plate. Everything you've ever seen or done is a potential piece to add to the sack. True uniqueness is a myth designed to stop people fron creating. But making something new and original out of disperate parts can create the illusuon of being unique. And, more importantly, it lets you lead with your passions. This video was not breaking down the creative process. This video was just showing us all the lego pieces and how they attached to the base plate. And god damn do I love Lego.
@somniad
@somniad 2 ай бұрын
that clip with "rearrange the skeleton to your liking" absolutely got me. like this is an incredible video that will stick with me forever but also oh my gosh that's a top notch skeleton joke
@Pufftarot
@Pufftarot 2 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever liked the 'vibe' of a video more. I have no clue what that means, but it feels so right though
@VinkGD
@VinkGD 2 ай бұрын
this is true for so many other mediums. i dont think i would have any good ideas for my short films if it werent for the hundreds of movies i watched. use your inspirations as your weapons of attack.
@Buttercup1983
@Buttercup1983 2 ай бұрын
I think something every artist needs to come to terms with at some point is that NOTHING is completely original. every idea you have is gleaned from something, and someone will have already done parts of your project before. and the faster you come to terms with the fact that there will never be a day in which you create something completely and utterly original and never done before, the faster you'll be able to harvest the power of inspiration and stealing ideas. at the end of the day, as long as you don't straight up copy everything from one thing, the amalgamation you create will be your own. and it will be unique, because no one else can spin your ideas like you do. I've even gone as far as straight up making a list of stories I love and picking out ideas from them when I'm struggling to put a piece of the puzzle together. art is always changing and growing, and every artist before you have stolen as well. it's part of what art is, and its actually quite beautiful when you think about it.
@Morientoso
@Morientoso 2 ай бұрын
Ah fuck... this finally got me my motivation for working on a game again that has been on a "hiatus" (for like two years)
@berd_2250
@berd_2250 2 ай бұрын
I’m gonna be honest, I’m currently coming up with ideas for a game i’d like to make but I have always felt like “if I do ______ then the fans of a game like undertale will get mad that i’m just being unoriginal” and now I realize with some concepts people don’t have a monopoly over them. A soul in a game represented by a heart? it’s not an undertale exclusive. also i just have more confidence that i was molded by the games I like and that causes me to use similar ideas. Thank you for the wisdom mr. cunningham
@overthinkit_
@overthinkit_ 2 ай бұрын
As a certifiably brain-rotten individual, this video is either going to convince me to write Undertale fanfiction or force me to become so Delusional (TM) over my fanwork it eventually transcends into something wholly original. Your conclusion to your video essay is evocative and potent, Mr. Cunningham. *Someone is going to **_be_** something because of you.*
@Marron121
@Marron121 Ай бұрын
The mention of Overtale woke me up like the secret phrase of a sleeper agent. I was super into Undertale and its fangames, so while it's understandable why the project ended up cancelled (as one who has cancelled tons of fangames and regular games as well), I'm happy you ended up working with RAM, which seems to be shaping up quite nicely. Congrats, and good luck on the development!
@lordnpc3953
@lordnpc3953 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been very self conscious in my own (very amateur) RPG Maker project about “stealing ideas,” and this has been a massive inspiration for me! Thank you so much
@twosoup3252
@twosoup3252 2 ай бұрын
Input is such an important (but sometimes overlooked) part of output. So many incredible artists and the pieces of work they create owe everything to the artists before them, and those artists owe everything to the ones before them as well. Inspiration can be found anywhere; all it takes is an open mind and the willingness to search for it.
@pyax7038
@pyax7038 2 ай бұрын
Amazing writing on this one. Plus, seeing such amazing, varied games as inspiration definitely sold RAM to me.
@biggreen1456
@biggreen1456 2 ай бұрын
In college I remember my professor mentioning that the most fundamental aspect of engineering is stealing people’s work.
@ExaltedUriel
@ExaltedUriel 2 ай бұрын
10:54 Yooo Running Shine mention, I love that guy Great video btw, I have always been an ardent believer in the "bad artists copy, great artists steal" addage, and this is a great breakdown of how being influenced by the media we consume is unavoidable and it's better to not pretend like you can literally reinvent the wheel. I actually avoided watching your RAM devlogs but I got tricked into watching this video because I thought it was "just" a video essay but I probably will be picking up RAM when it releases, the game looks great 👍
@jackacreates6172
@jackacreates6172 2 ай бұрын
absolutely fantastic video as always. It's clear how much you love games, given how many different other fantastic indie games are referenced in the editing
@BossartNova
@BossartNova 2 ай бұрын
As someone someone thats on year two of this whole making games shit and have been drawing for much longer, this really spoke to me, thanks for that
@jacobg8373
@jacobg8373 2 ай бұрын
2:01 THE BABY IS YOU MENTION!!
@daktotathecolossus7404
@daktotathecolossus7404 2 ай бұрын
God this has been such a good set of game dev vids, ones actaully diving into the thought processes and ideas behind everything
@CybernetCatgirl
@CybernetCatgirl 2 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest, when I first saw the "swap" mechanic, I first thought MidBoss; not quite the same thing, but it came to mind. It's absolutely neat when people come up with the same idea in different ways, though, and I love keeping up with these devlogs! They're super fun, and inspiring!
@voidimperatrix406
@voidimperatrix406 Ай бұрын
This video was so good, idk why I slept on it as long as I did.
@hiphyro
@hiphyro 2 ай бұрын
Did not expect this video to go so hard, also as someone who's been very interested in doing game dev eventually and is also easily very affected by media I really like this helped on a pretty personal level, all I can say is thank you
@KeithLOONAtic
@KeithLOONAtic 2 ай бұрын
i think the importance of stealing is that you also have to steal WHY you wanted to steal it, what makes an idea stand out; and not just stealing because you're out of ideas and want to take something to fill in the hole once you also steal the reason you wanna steal the idea for you stole its essense and since you understand it you can also develop that idea, not just copying an a thing as it is
@LeatherIceCream
@LeatherIceCream 2 ай бұрын
Great video! It's good that you mention Isaac because not only does it ALSO takes from a bunch of other games, it has influences from all sorts of stuff; Music, Film, Comics, Real Life experiences especially. If anything, some devs could really use hobbies outside of video games for influence and inspiration. Nuclear Throne being brought up is a welcome sight to see in a video like this, it's an underrated game; I was still obsessed with it around the same time I was obsessed with undertale. I even attempted some crossovers between the two back in the day. Also, shoutouts to Spelunky Classic, one of the first, if not THE first rougelike. Isaac was heavily influenced by it, and one of the few rouglikes released between Rouge and Isaac.
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 2 ай бұрын
Ah you see, I cleverly justified never mentioning Spelunky by specifying "top down" rogelike. Also I just don't really play Spelunky so it's a moot point. Nuclear Throne, though, is actually more influential to RAM than the video implies, I just could figure out where to give it a section.
@LeatherIceCream
@LeatherIceCream 2 ай бұрын
@@andrew_cunningham I should've read the fine print! But really, good luck with the game, though. And good luck with the games after that too.
@Sickcrazyneet
@Sickcrazyneet 2 ай бұрын
Leathericecream jumpscare
@pecklespeckle1
@pecklespeckle1 2 ай бұрын
0:33 rare Epic Battle Fantasy W
@philltheotherguy1868
@philltheotherguy1868 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one that remembers epic battle fantasy. Thank you.
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 2 ай бұрын
EBF fills the role in my childhood that FF is supposed to.
@pokenemo1595
@pokenemo1595 2 ай бұрын
WOOOO EPIC BATTLE FANTASY
@zalandercalander
@zalandercalander 2 ай бұрын
FUCK YEAH!!!!
@ExaltedUriel
@ExaltedUriel 2 ай бұрын
​@@andrew_cunninghamI'm exactly the same way, I played the hell out of those flash games as a kinda-poor kid
@playermat8574
@playermat8574 2 ай бұрын
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!
@hiei7682
@hiei7682 2 ай бұрын
It's funny how easy this is to understand, yet people forget about it every two minutes
@greenhydra10
@greenhydra10 2 ай бұрын
There's something really funny about Gaster saying "SEEMS LEGIT" for some reason.
@ctrlaltrepeat245
@ctrlaltrepeat245 2 ай бұрын
"It's about pulling ideas from your influences with the confidence that your ideas are strong enough to subsume them. That you can participate in a work's legacy without being the work, or belonging to it" This, this in its entirety, is what makes this video something amazing. The kinds of people who rag on someone for making "[blank] at home" or "discount [blank]" tend to not understand that it is in fact very hard to create an entirely new piece of media without taking elements from other media, be it intentionally or subconsciously. You HAVE to consume media in order to create media, since doing so, and analyzing what you consume is basically the only way to learn what made it so good. Many things in writing, game design, etc, are all derivatives of the ones before it. A "Good game" is not one torch passed from person to person, imagination is a fire at the center of a stone pit that you have to use to light your own torch, and the design of your torch will deem if the fire consumes it whole, or sits atop it patiently. Don't be afraid to be inspired by other torches.
@unitmikey7
@unitmikey7 2 ай бұрын
john egbert jumpscare at 9:40
@bugdracula1662
@bugdracula1662 2 ай бұрын
and 2:02!
@uhohspaghettios821
@uhohspaghettios821 2 ай бұрын
we take these chat
@animegirl4209
@animegirl4209 2 ай бұрын
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@darksoulbg24
@darksoulbg24 2 ай бұрын
Goddamn this video is so great! I wasn't sure what you meant by cursed mirror that latches on to the soul until you explain it and that explanation is amazing! Ever since i watched The Magnus Archives ive started seeing its fragments everywhere, not as references to it, but pieces of the world it used in it's body to construct an expansive whole
@snosibsnob3930
@snosibsnob3930 2 ай бұрын
This video goes incredibly hard. Especially with all of us other undertalites reaching the point in our lives where we wanna make something, I don’t think I’m the only one who this came out damn near at the perfect time for.
@Chipsfish1
@Chipsfish1 2 ай бұрын
I'm so excited for RAM!! I just got Dome Keeper today because I know that one of RAM's sprite artists did work on that game, and I'll absolutely be throwing this video around and getting a small group of people to wishlist the game on steam
@popsiiv
@popsiiv 2 ай бұрын
0:52 one more time for the struggling artists; deaf under their weighted blankets.
@pablojimenezarjona4755
@pablojimenezarjona4755 2 ай бұрын
Andrew putísimo amo. You went beyond your incredible analisis and writing skills and went on to blindly create your own greatest challenge. I truly hope this game fills you with the pride and determination you deserve. VAMOOOOOOOS
@AwesomeDr111
@AwesomeDr111 2 ай бұрын
Nice touch putting Undertale in the thumbnail of your devlog to boost views Edit: Crawl mentioned, amazing!
@ThiagoBits-lz7yo
@ThiagoBits-lz7yo 2 ай бұрын
andrew returns! how joyous of an occasion!
@senpai_ryusaki
@senpai_ryusaki 2 ай бұрын
Thankyou so much for making this video. As someone who don't actually know a darn thing about the game development process I think I learned a lot. What you said about inspiration just happening to you really resonated with me and how these games affect my art (cough*omori* cough). A lot of artists worry about having an "original" artstyle when what artstyle they have is already theirs, unique, not despite but because of its influences.
@bartuscus
@bartuscus 2 ай бұрын
i was literally rewatching some of your videos yesterday, what a coincidence
@rosemariie
@rosemariie 2 ай бұрын
Hey - I'm SUPER enthusiastic about RAM coming out and I want to do everything I can to help. Unfortunately, I've already got the game Wishlisted on Steam, but it sounds like Wishlisting it during this upcoming event would be very impactful. Should I un-Wishlist and then re-add it during the event, or would that have no tangible impact, to your knowledge? (Will obviously just leave it on my Wishlist if there's no reason to remove and re-add, so feel free to just ignore this if that's the case lol)
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 2 ай бұрын
I have no idea if this works lol. I'd say don't worry about it.
@pauseiscool6232
@pauseiscool6232 2 ай бұрын
WAKE UP, NEW ANDREW CUNNINGHAM VIDEO
@HotDogGodorno
@HotDogGodorno 2 ай бұрын
of course they do, otherwise stagnation occurs love the vid!
@Oh_the_humanity
@Oh_the_humanity 2 ай бұрын
This video perfectly sums up my thoughts when it comes to the fantasy comic I've spent the last half decade dreaming up. Look at it closely enough, and you will find the tattered, sewn-together hides of everything I've ever loved wrapped around a warm, glowing ball of what makes me. And I'm proud that it's coming out the way it is. The artist's obsession with originality is a dream killer.
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 2 ай бұрын
11:30 lol no ones gonna get that outside of the livestreams Also good damn job on the video, inspiration²
@andrew_cunningham
@andrew_cunningham 2 ай бұрын
Azzypants OTP
@ThroughArbitersandClaws
@ThroughArbitersandClaws 2 ай бұрын
UNFATHOMABLY TRUE This is such an amazing video, and I think I will be quoting that closing monologue piece
@ModestZach
@ModestZach 2 ай бұрын
I’m sure what Andrew Cunningham meant by that title is that James Somerton was actually a visionary.
@bertilhedegaard3888
@bertilhedegaard3888 2 ай бұрын
exceptional video quality, both in terms of visual appeal and content!!!
@nordgeit
@nordgeit 2 ай бұрын
Another thing I would like to add is that it isn't just mechanics you can steal, as Toby clearly displayed. Northern Journey, for example, steals from Norwegian folklore and nature to make up its atmosphere, levels and graphical style... Quite literally. All you have to do is to go outside really, there's so much random crap to steal from going outside and touching grass, it's insane
@PenguinPoo4246
@PenguinPoo4246 2 ай бұрын
I was just thinking of my game which is largely inspired by Undertale and was worrying about how to change some core mechanics so perfect timing of this video. Helped me with this process so thank you and hope the best for RAM
@insertnamehere1398
@insertnamehere1398 2 ай бұрын
this doesn't even cover subconcious plagirism you'd never remember
@MavrosStJohn
@MavrosStJohn 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been championing your game to one of the gaming groups I’m in for a year now, and I hope more people check it out next week at Next Fest
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