Great Battles of the Reconquista - Tours (Poitiers) 732

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The year is 732. The Iberian Peninsula is dominated by the Umayyad Caliphate and is known as Al-Andalus. From there, the Caliph's men venture forth into France - conquering the south and raiding the north. A new governor of Al-Andalus, by the name of Abdul Rahman al-Ghafiqi, comes to power and leads a strong army on another massive raid. There are few that can oppose him, but between Poitiers and Tours, Charles Martel leads his well trained army and sets up a desperate defense.
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[@ilyankhan6795]

Flash Point History has studying Islamic history changed your view on Islam? If so in what way?

[@FlashPointHx]

​@@ilyankhan6795 It has - both the positive and the negative. It would take me a few hours to go into detail, but in general; it united a marginalized people and gave them the drive to expand. During the early conquest, the Arabs recognized the importance of the cultural advances of some of the people they conquered. The Caliphate thus became the superhighway of technology exchange of its time. But like with most religions, divisions led to civil war and strife. Plus like with most major religions it carried a sense of xenophobia (intensified by its encounters with Christianity) and it carried a certain degree of elitism. I don't think this is unique to Islam - its a part of human nature. That said, understanding another's culture, religion, and society is the path to a more nurturing future of co-existence, however one should never go into this blindly or naively. Trust and cooperation is earned. I hope this answers your question

[@ilyankhan6795]

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[@hadtrio6629]

@@FlashPointHx just correcting something the rashidun are also suni so the ummayades are not the 1st suni suni means doing or checking out what the prophet did in his life if nothing is found well they improvise for the best caliphate shiaa are those who supported Ali the prophet cousin and his son hussain and hassan it's political in a religious way and a conspiracy saying they're actual remnant of the last persians empire that's why they honor the killer of omar and praise his assasin also if u can do the ancient history of north africa specially in the roman era and the amazighs kingdoms also do a video about the battles of the 3 kings in Morocco as a continuation of what happen after reconquista and man it sure hurts me specially since am Moroccan the lost of this land it's basically the same with constantinople with u a sorry istanbul

[@FlashPointHx]

@@hadtrio6629 The Rashidun were not a dynasty - in fact it was an anathema to have the concept of giving the leadership of the Umma to one's son in succession.

[@CarlosCMTF]

Charles Martel: It's over al-Ghafiqi. I have the high ground!

[@FlashPointHx]

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[@thebrocialist8300]

al-Ghafiqi: Rally to me... Rally to me...

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"Winter is coming" was very good 😅. Didn't knew Dornish troops went that far northward, though...

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[@colmhain]

Thank you for NOT calling him Charles 'the Hammer" Hammer.

[@FlashPointHx]

Ha! That drives me crazy when I see that too. Martel was not his last name it was his nickname given to him after this battle. It’s old French derived from late Latin ‘Martellus’ from what I remember

[@FlashPointHx]

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[@enge]

Hammer in Portuguese is martelo, in Spanish is martillo, in French, marteau, in Italian, martello, it’s nice to speak Vulgar Latin after thousands of years 😃

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[@FlashPointHx]

Yes Sir!

[@thefisherking78]

Just want you to know I had already read many accounts of this battle, but recently watched four different video versions and this was my #1/4. The timeline and movements within the battle itself seem to be nearly uniformly described, but your analysis of the historical context, leading events, and differing opinions on the relative impact and importance of the outcome, really add breadth and depth to the story. Thank you! Subbed 💯

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks!

[@gzpo]

Wow! Didn't know they got up that far into what would later be called France! As always, great performance! Good to see your work again. 💖😎

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks - yeah I wonder if this raid was successful, would they have made it to Paris the next year?

[@elbentos7803]

Flash Point History An interesting point is that in the Ummayads ways of war, there was no clear distinction between a large raid and a conquest : a very successful raid might well turn into full scale invasion if the conditions were very favourable. The raiding parties had a triple role : - Scouting, at the very least. - Raiding, in order to fund the war machine (i.e. pay the mercenaries) and the empire. - Sowing insecurity in the targeted realm. - If the opposition proves weak, aim at political centers and, with renforcements, conquer the realm. This pattern was quite obviously the case concerning the invasion of wisigothic kingdom.

[@FlashPointHx]

I’m really glad that you posted here. This is the counter argument that I’ve come across while talking with others as well. As you said, this is what happened in the Iberian Peninsula. The only other major difference, however, is that the caliphate was nearing collapse. Had they won at the battle of Tours - Would they have been able to exploit their victory like they did in Spain?

[@elbentos7803]

Flash Point History One of the many causes of the Ummayad fall was the great berber revolt, and one of the causes of the berber revolt was the economic losses and loss of employement opportunities (mercenaries), both consequences of the halt of the western expansion. Another important point in their demise is that Ummayad expansion stopped quite simultaneously in early 8th century on every frontlines : Their armies failed catastrophically in the North against Byzantium (the one and true prize of the time), were defeated by the chinese in the East (central Asia), and by the franks in the West (Toulouse, Tours, Berre river, Narbonne) : Here again we encounter the peculiar economic of the ummayad: conquest for plunder and taxing the dhimmi (that's why Ummayad didn't favored mass conversions to Islam). With expansions ground to halt, Ummayad economy and prestige suffered a lot. Therefore, I suppose these military defeats were the causes of the political troubles.

[@FlashPointHx]

There was also the sense that the Umayyad Had become too vain and distant from the people. That they were not listening to everyone and only advancing their own agenda. Of course having multiple military defeats didn’t help the situation. And you’re right, as long as the conquest continued plunder would come in in the economy would be stable. Once the conquest had been stopped on multiple fronts then economic ruin was just around the corner.

[@krismikewill]

Excellent graphics and information (as always). Well done ✔.

[@thebrocialist8300]

Your content ranks amongst the very best on the subject of Reconquista available in English.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thank you!

[@HikmaHistory]

Loved the detail! Especially the battle graphics.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thank you my friend !

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Splendid Have been waiting for this for ages ❤️❤️❤️

[@FlashPointHx]

Nice - I'm happy that you liked it! Sorry for the wait - holidays are a bit distracting =)

[@philipkollberg]

Thank god Martel won!

[@giod6266]

Thank you so much! Looking forward for next battle!

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks - I'm thinking the next one will be when Abd Al-Rahman I takes Cordoba will be up next. But need to review my notes.

[@taintofcartman8064]

Happy 2020! Glad you're back

[@FlashPointHx]

Good to be back!

[@ahuse1]

great content as always! i'd like to hear more about the debate around the importance of the battle, in particular your interpretation.

[@FlashPointHx]

From what I’ve read and looking back in retrospect, I think this battle only stopped a raid. I think the battle of Toulouse that happened in 721 was more significant in that it stopped a very large Islamic force. The raid of 732 in contrast, was meant to steal goods and get back to their base of operations before the winter came. Furthermore the caliphate was pretty much at the end of its logistical supply line. Internal divisions back in Damascus would also bring down the caliphate as well. So, even if they won at this battle I doubt they would’ve gotten very much further. However, as somebody has pointed out the conquest of Hispania began the same way. Overall, I think that the failure to take Constantinople was the true turning point in the Islamic conquest.

[@kevanbodsworth9868]

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[@Uncle_Fred]

Great to see you back. Still looking forward to the conclusion of the Reconquista series.

[@FlashPointHx]

The audio portion is up and running - just need to make videos on it. I'm adding a bit on the Black Death so researching that now

[@afptoronto1]

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[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks!

[@alorikkoln]

I humbly agree with Gibbon. Thanks and happy new year.

[@FlashPointHx]

I’d love to hear your thought process, this battle intrigues me as one of those great what if’s in history. Happy New Years to you as well !

[@argiberico]

Not really. If the Muslims hadn't conquered Asturias, why would they be successful in Frankish lands? It was not a question of time to take Asturias bc it was densely populated by nobles that had retreated there from all over the peninsula and the geography favoured its defense. It has narrow valleys that would make even a large army and easy target. It would be like the Basque Country in Spain in terms of languages nowadays; it doesn't blend, but doesn't threaten. Same thing with the Ottomans attempting to take Vienna; if they hadn't really conquered and taken over the Romanian principalities-- that were vassal states, why would they take over the Habsburg capital? It's like doing well on a exam when you failed on the building tests and assignments.

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Thank you so much for this lovely comment - I do remember your prior comment. You and at least two others had the same response. Tribes of Egypt vs Tribes of Israel. I'm really happy that you like the rest of my videos as well!

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[@KarimDeLakarim]

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@@FlashPointHx 9:42 --- Choose wisely...

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[@FlashPointHx]

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[@FlashPointHx]

hahaha! Thank you!

[@hamzazf]

man you are awesome, i would love to see a video about an in depth look of north africa in the same era

[@FlashPointHx]

I did a pretty in depth video on the conquest of North Africa leading up to this point. Its under "Journey to Al-Andalus"

[@hamzazf]

​@@FlashPointHx i saw that one, but little is known about how north africa as a whole become muslim, for example some arab sources talk about how some morrocans refused islam as it is and created thier own version of islam, with a completly diffirent berber written coran, this clan lasted until the 11th century, and they were not considered muslims by any means, in contrast with radical muslims such as almohads or almoravids.

[@FlashPointHx]

@@hamzazf true - some berbers would go off and form resistance areas in the mountains. I used Hugh Kennedy's books - they are pretty good for this time period.

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[@FlashPointHx]

Will do - happy you liked it

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God the animation style keeps getting better and better

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks! Yeah, really took some extra time on this one

[@johnnyjoaster820]

@@FlashPointHx thank you I can't wait for the Granada episode

[@FlashPointHx]

It’s out on audio right now - just finishing up some research on the Black Death before I begin to make it on video

[@johnnyjoaster820]

@@FlashPointHx I did download and listen to the audio podcast I must say you are really good with the story telling

[@esulfab99]

Once again, you provided an excellent description of a true moment in history of a key battle. Your narration was void from subjectivity and Political bias.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thank you! Aiming for this goal of being unbiased as possible

[@tituslabienus01]

I Have Watched Many Of Your Videos Some Several Times For How Spectacular They Are & That Leads Me To A Genuine Question What Is Your Favorite Battle In History

[@FlashPointHx]

Hard question to answer as there are always new things to learn that I've never heard of. I think there are aspects of different battles that make them legendary. I.e Hannibal's masterpiece at Cannae - a smaller army encircles a larger one. Gettysburg - Lee ordering a last desperate charge - the fate of the civl war rested on that field on that morning. Rio Salado - Alphonso XI defies all odds and crushes the Marinids. I could go on and on

[@tituslabienus01]

@@FlashPointHx You Make A Very Great Point So I Have A Different Question For You Instead Who Is Your Most Favorite Leader,King,Commander Etc.. Also My Most Favorite Battle Even Though It's Not Grandiose Is The Battle Of The Sabis River & My Most Favorite Ruler Would Have To Be Isabella De Castillia Or Ab Al Rahman The 3rd

[@deiongoldsmith515]

Would you be able to post your books I love your content btw you inspired me a few years ago to get my history minor and have a strong love for medival Spain and arabia! Thank you keep up the good work! Also are you still going to do the conquest of the new world? I love this series!

[@FlashPointHx]

Wow - this is such an awesome comment. It’s exactly for this that I went into podcasting. I’m really touched you got a minor on my behalf. I don’t usually post a bibliography on the battle videos, but if you go to one of the Reconquista Videos, especially the long format ones I have my books posted there. I need to post you comment on the Facebook site - again, thank you for this!

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[@paladinbob1236]

a famous battle well presented :D

[@FlashPointHx]

Thank you!

[@paladinbob1236]

@@FlashPointHx no problem , ..a great piece , subbed and looking forward to more [winks] :P

[@goldentaco4970]

The Hammer!

[@FlashPointHx]

Yup! =)

[@elbentos7803]

Thanks for your beautiful (and balanced) video. The weakest points in the "simple raiding party" hypothesis is that the proponents have a very hard time explaining : - The presence of the wali (governor) of Al-Andalus at the head of "a small raiding party". - The mere size of the Ummayad army, able to wage (and win) a full battle against duke Odo, then plunder Bordeaux (a raid would have turned back home after this point), then fight (and lose) a second full scale battle against the frankish (austrasian + neustrian + aquitanian) army : all these successive operations required : 1) a large army and, 2) powerful logistics, both traits being characteristics of a large army, not a mere raiding party.

[@FlashPointHx]

That is a really good point, why else would you send in the governor himself delete this? Haven’t heard of this before thank you for posting this.

[@SM-yk6py]

The chronicle of 754 states that Abd al-Rahman, after defeating Munnuz, an ally of Odo (or Eudo), wanted to defeat Eudo as well as to prevent him from attacking his northern provinces in Al Andalus. The chronicle basically says that he ventured out since his whole army was still standing around after the battle against Munnuz. Why exactly he moved further into frankish territory isnt known, but it is most likely because of the riches found in the churches of Poitiers and Tours. The Continuatio Fredegarii states that they destroyed and plundered the church of St. Hilarius in Poitiers, which speaks for that point. Also, Odo fled to Charles, giving Abd al-Rahman another cause for moving deeper into enemy territory. Gibbons and Creasys view on the battle are in my opinion highy overstating the significance of the battle. After all, the arabs werent annihilated at Tours, but still had enough men to raid entire cities and Villages on their way back.

[@elbentos7803]

SM 0015 You perfectly cited the 2 main contemporary sources for the battle : a christian hispanic source - the mozarabic chronicle of 754 (sorry, not 732 as I initialy wrote, confusing the date of the text and the battle) and a frankish one - the continuation of pseudo-fredegar. I agree that Poitiers/Tours is neither the largest battle of the early middle ages, nor that it was a decisive victory, and certainly not a "clash of civilisations" (more likely, a clash of ambitions or imperialism). What I criticized here is the opposite analysis that pretends it was just a somewhat big raid. Moreover, as I wrote elsewhere there's no clear distinction in Ummayad strategy between a very large raid and a conquest : raiders scout enemy territory, destabilize local authority, fund warfare, test enemy resilience and if the target appears weak, the raid may turn into a full scale conquest just like what happened in Hispania. The ultimate failure of Ummayad ambitions in the west was not just this one battle but more the string of defeats they suffered (Toulouse, Poitiers, Berre river, fall of Avignon, fall of Narbonne)...

[@SM-yk6py]

@@elbentos7803 its true that its too simple to just describe it as a mere raid. I find it really hard to form a balanced opinion, given that the sources are scarse and for the most part pretty biased. The fact that we dont have any arabic sources further complicates things. I just think one has to be careful both with terms like "invasion" and "raid". Theres a great text by Ulrich Nonn about the problems in historical opinion-building about just that

[@FlashPointHx]

@@SM-yk6py This is one of those Heisenberg problems - just by early observing the history one can change it.

[@enge]

“Perhaps the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford”… well, well…

[@LikeUntoBuddha]

Hmmm, I wonder if I was a hacker, what sites I would try to break into first? (Dashlane maybe?)

[@laenorvelaryon5835]

I don't even think Poitiers counts as a reconquista battle, it's already (historically) a stretch to call Covadonga that. I think the real reconquista started in the 740's with the great berber revolt. And I agree with your second assessment, nothing suggests the Umayyads intended to annex Frankish lands, Narbonne which is their longest lived settlement was more an advanced post used as a springboard for raids than a proper part of Umayyad territory. The raids were simply too lucrative to ignore. Thanks for the video man and happy new year, still waiting for the Granada chapter (hint ;D)

[@FlashPointHx]

The problem is that the start of the Reconquista is a fiercely debated topic. I kind of agree - Covadonga is a bit of a stretch. But there is hardly a book out there that doesn't dare NOT mention this fight. Tours was important in that it is regarded as the 'turning point' - again I'm not convinced of this. Personally, I'd set the beginning of the Reconquista to 1085 when Alphonso VI retook Toledo. But that is my own simply humble opinion. As for Granada - its in the works. I'm learning a new software for it right now

[@laenorvelaryon5835]

@@FlashPointHx In my more humble opinion I think by 1085, the reconquista was well underway, accelerated by the fracture of the caliphate, but try to compare any historical map of the 730's Umayyad caliphate with another of the 750's emirate of Cordova and you'll notice Asturias clearly bounced back, there are no major battles here, just the distraction of the berber revolt allowed Asturias the breathing room it needed to expand, and the emirate was stabilised along the new borders. Most sources who "magnify" those battles are inspired by the beautification (or romantisation :/) of spanish history, like canonizing St. Pelagius and the "discovery" at this period of Santiago's relics that were used as a rallying cry. Whenever I read about these "convenient" events I tend be a bit sceptic. Sorry I also babble a lot. Love your work.

[@FlashPointHx]

@@laenorvelaryon5835 yeah the opinions on the start date vary greatly

[@justmymage]

1:45 To skip the ads/intro.

[@steel4o]

Charles Martel - unbent, unbowed, unbroken

[@FlashPointHx]

Yes sir

[@c.w.johnsonjr6374]

Charles Martel was imprisoned by his stepmother. Does that make him a Disney Princess?

[@FlashPointHx]

They have a musical about it and everything

[@pavelavietor1]

Hello the Moors didn't occupy Hispania no Espan-a they occupied Section of the Iberian peninsula, controlled by the Visigoths Kingdom Saludos

[@FlashPointHx]

Except for a small sliver of land north of the Cantabrian Mountains, the rest of the Iberian Pen was subjugated

[@pavelavietor1]

@@FlashPointHx hello yes. Defender Don Pelagio the Visigoths stop the Moors . The Moors never defeated the Iberian tribes. You are correct . Saludos

[@FlashPointHx]

Yeah, check out my last video on Covadonga :)

[@rexchiliae]

Back then everyone called that region Hispania. The name iberia was revived by portuguese nationalism to differentiate Portugal from Spain

[@pavelavietor1]

@@rexchiliae yes you are correct, read my comments, the Moors didn’t occupy Hispania or España ( political and economical jurisdiction ), they occupy a geographical location, in the Iberian peninsula. You can prove me erroneous if you can. Thanks for you elegant reply. Saludos Bro

[@kennethhuang3878]

Is there a Patreon or somewhere we can support you on?

[@FlashPointHx]

Yes - the link is in the description of the video. Thank you!

[@cooltoshaftw]

Finally got to watch this video! The hype is here and the hype is real! Just one mistake you have to fix: at 8:22 in the video, you have Umayyaad Army shown, but at 8:44 instead of the Frankish Army, which was consisted mostly of infantry, you still have "Umayyad Army". Fix that please. Otherwise, perfect video to the boot! My subscription was not in vain!

[@FlashPointHx]

I think you meant to add more here - please finish, I'm curious what you have to say

[@cooltoshaftw]

@@FlashPointHx No more mistakes, but if you want me to add, I would suggest what other people said. Join with other channels and expand the scope of your own channel. You have extensively focused Rome vs. Carthage and Western Europe (Iberia) vs. Islam. How about Eastern Roman Empire? Series of videos on biographies on each and every single one of the Eastern Emperors would be amazing. Just imagine covering Justinian the Second's bloody rampage over the traitors within Constantinople and making the Patriarch his bitch. With your skill, it would be beyond glorious.

[@DirkusTurkess]

Stop. Hammer time!

[@FlashPointHx]

Ha!

[@user_____M]

Good video although I wish it had more obscure information about the events and/or the battle.

[@FlashPointHx]

You mean like casualties and what not?

[@user_____M]

@@FlashPointHx Any extra information that would make the video more unique and interesting compared to other sources, for example personal relationships or if the Moors usually acted like that since from what I can tell the Franks would have lost the battle if the Muslims didn't take the bait.

[@FlashPointHx]

I see - you’re looking for anecdotes - I’ll keep this in mind for later videos

[@DimitryDonskoy777]

Well done the hammer 🔨 of Franks 🇫🇷 ⚜️

[@AnvilMAn603]

tours isnt reconquista, first battle of the reconquista was covadonga *edit* lol oops

[@FlashPointHx]

haha - yeah see the prior video.

[@mitkodimitrov8396]

is there siege of konstantinopol with bulgarians video ?

[@FlashPointHx]

I’m working on a siege of Constantinople in 1453 - but I’ll be referencing the siege of 717

[@diegomacara5658]

We need you en age of empires asap

[@3OOF_7RB]

al-Ghafiqi Great warrior

[@FlashPointHx]

His troops greed got the best of him

[@3OOF_7RB]

@@FlashPointHx Beautiful channel

[@FlashPointHx]

@@3OOF_7RB Thank you so much!

[@titusmanlius9352]

💪😎😁

[@FlashPointHx]

Ha! Take that as a like

[@constancerijsdijk9332]

Interesting video, thanks! But please, don't use the name "Holland" when you're talking about the 8th century. There was no such thing back then. The territory you're referring to was called Frisia, which stretched until what is now called Flanders. The name Holland didn't arise until about 1100, and ever since it has only referred to some coastal regions of the current Netherlands.

[@FlashPointHx]

I know - its an ongoing debate in my head about using modern references in historical videos. The problem is that these videos are meant for a more generalized audience. My aim is to get people who would otherwise be indifferent into history, while trying to keep the core content up to the level of a more seasoned historical person. There are many anachronistic terms that are used - and to be honest, I'm not the only one who uses this modality - in my videos. E.G.' Islamic Spain' is not a correct term, Spain didn't exist at the time.

[@Jnn-ti9ky]

6:53 casulaties, might fix that

[@FlashPointHx]

Ahh Crap - I’ve always sucked at spelling. Chalk this one up to sleep deprivation from having a 1.5 year old who is teething. Thanks for pointing this out

[@ilyankhan6795]

noice

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks!

[@johnnyjoaster820]

God I hope I'm not too late cuz I didn't receive the notification

[@FlashPointHx]

Better late than never, I always say =)

[@rodolfogonzalez724]

So, Smeagol Is muslim and Martel Is Kenobi? Anywat. Excellent as always

[@FlashPointHx]

“ Use the force Harry “ - Gandalf (picture of Picard in background)

[@washizukanorico]

You run a history channel so you guys should know that Charles father, pépin was not a king, Charles neither so he never made a bid for the throne. I realize you didn t have time to explain what the mayor of the palace was in Francis, not why the position became hereditary. The first carolingian king was Charles son pépin the short (father of Charlemagne) Still if you didn t use the word “king” and “throne” your video would have been as short, as good AND accurate!

[@dansmith3343]

I've tried talking to muslims about this battle or even the reconquista and they refuse to acknowledge it. If the muslims would have treated the frankish people better and not ravaged the land, I think they would've never had Martel rise the way he did. Unless another badass saint joined the battle . That never works out good for the muslims.

[@kareemtheeb1478]

We study this in our school. You have never talked to 1 muslim. Maybe only in the internet.

[@dansmith3343]

Kareem Khattab actually there's a mosque a block down the road. They will not talk about it period. I wanted a Muslim perspective but eh. Don't presume to tell me who I talk to. I live in the USA. We have all religions and nationalities here. Go look at any crusades video or anything to do with christian and muslim conflict on YT and read the comments. You'll see what I mean. I certainly didn't mean all muslims. Just a few I've ran into and knew well enough to conversate with.

[@kareemtheeb1478]

@@dansmith3343 Maybe they are not good at history. But we in the Arab world study this battle we call it (balat al shuhada). And the internet is filled with trolls and suckers.

[@dansmith3343]

Kareem Khattab I understand and apologize if that sounded hateful. I'm always happy to talk with another history lover no matter what race or creed . I've been reading into the fall the the mongols and the muslim warriors who were responsible for defeating them. Awesome stuff.

[@kareemtheeb1478]

@@dansmith3343 It is really nice story, they were slaves(mamluks). Have a nice day and good luck❤.

[@dansmith4077]

For the algorithm.

[@muhammedfawaz3500]

if muslims suffered a disaster in tours, then why Christians in spain did NOT revolt. .that prove that most muslim troops returned unharmed

[@girdharsingh4287]

They did. Within decades, Arab lost north Spain. And in couple of centuries the Christians took back half of Iberia And by 11th century 80 percent of Iberia was back in Christian control. Esp when they occupied Cordoba. The cultural capital of Islamic world. The only region of Iberia that last last 700 years was Granada.

[@nikolamilosevski6424]

I don't know how and why you associated this battle with Reconquista. Even common logic says that this battle is a defending type (from Franks perspective), not a reconquering fashion.

[@QHawk7]

*How can it be a reconquesta if Phoenician Arabs and Berbers were there first in South 'Iberia' and in Sicilly*

[@mr.2083]

Because christianity arrived first in those places in the times of the Romans.

[@QHawk7]

@@mr.2083 Phoenicians preceded the romans by 7 to 10 centuries .

[@mr.2083]

@@QHawk7 yes except they weren't muslims and the people living there weren't christians, since religion plays the biggest part in the events titled the reconquista maybe that plays a big role in defining when it started and why. The reconquista is a war of religion far more than one of ethnicity. If you would define the reconquista by your logic, every single act of resistance by the natives against the Phoenicians, Romans and any external party would be considered part of the reconquista. Yet that is not how any historian or Spaniard(with knowledge of history) would define it. The reconquista starts to be te reconquista after part of "christian"(not all Visigoths or the whole population was christian at the time) "Spain" were conquered by muslim invaders that took permanent residence on "spanish" soil. That is the key of the reconquista, if there was no invasion followed by permanent settlement by muslims, the reconquista as we know(and define) it would simply not be there. Therefore one can conclude that, yes previous settlement by Arabs and Berbers plays a role in the history of the reconquista(because they helped shape the people that were conquered by the muslim invaders), but they did not play a defining role in the reconquista itself(which was a conflict between muslims and christians[though not all since there were chistians, muslims, jews etc. living in relative peace during the reign of muslims in "Spain"] seperated by so much time from the arrival of Phoenicians that their arrival on the peninsula had no direct effect at all. Same would go for the Romans if it wasn't for them being the main factor christianity that arrived in "Spain"). I hope this has given you some more insight into the events called the reconquista. If you find my explanation lacking in any way, please watch some more of the video's of Flash Point History or any documentary about the reconquista, those will definitly give you a better perspective on what the reconquista was than I can by just typing. Eventhough it is a topic glorified by propaganda, if you watch a few video's about it you'll be able to form an understanding of what it is and why it happened(and why it's called "Reconquista"). Now please don't be offended when I remark this, but I find it strange you know the fact about Phoenicians from the Levant arriving in Iberia way before the Romans(even knew it existed), but did not take any effort(an assumption based on what you said) to research what the reconquista actually is.

[@QHawk7]

@@mr.2083 Yeah, but even with Christianity, Unitarian Christians were there first. And Unitarian Christians considered by Islam as Muslims. I bet you didn't know this.

[@mr.2083]

@@QHawk7 Nope, did not know that unitarian chistians arrived first before more commonly known versions of christianity. However that is pretty much irrelevant regarding this topic, since that doesn't matter for determining when the reconquista started and what it was(also unitarian christians do consider themselves christians[as is implied by the name] not muslims, it's muslims that consider them to be a sort of christian precursor of islam, keyword being christian, not islamic). Historians(and educated Spaniards, both probably having way more sourcematerial at hand then any of us) pretty unanimously agree when it started and why. So I don't see why you'd try to debate something already established by good arguments checked and found valid by the scientific community, people way more educated on the topic than both of us. That's compareable to going to a team of scientists who have been researching cancer all their academic life with ridiculous funding at their disposal, telling them they're wrong and olive oil is the magic cure. Ignoring already established and agreed upon facts. You'd know this and why it's useless to point at trivial facts if you had googled reconquista and done any proper research. You can have opinions not personal facts.

[@procinctu1]

Gibbon was not a real histoeian.

[@673-t3]

In the year 176 AH [791-792AD], Emir Hisham ibn Abdul Rahman Al-Dakhil sent two armies: 1-The first army led by Ubayd Allah ibn Uthman (35-40,000 men) invaded Asturia and annilihated an army of the Galicians and Basques led by Bermudo I, the king of Asturia, slaughtered 40,000 of his men, burned many cities and villages, sacked Oviedo the capital of his kingdom, , and burned his palace & His church after plundering it ... and he returned with spoils 2 The second army led by Yusef ibn Bakht (30-35,000 men) invaded France (during the reign of Charlemagne) and devastated Septimania after annilihating a French army (30,000 men) led by Guillaume au court Nez and slaughtered most of his men,with only 13 of the French survived including Guillaume who lost his nose

[@rajeshdevika8827]

So islam spread violence?

[@seyl717]

Nice work, tho it wouldnt have made much a difference even if Al Ghafiqi won, they would have lost somewhere else in europe sooner or later since the umayyad army was overstretched and the supply lines strectched thin.

[@FlashPointHx]

Agree. The fall of Constantinople in 717 - 718 would have been much more significant than this battle

[@seyl717]

@@FlashPointHx 100% bro

[@neverstopz9045]

unskipable ads, oof. but eh gotta pay for great content

[@FlashPointHx]

yeah - really need to upgrade my software

[@neverstopz9045]

@@FlashPointHx it's all good, def worth it. thank you for all the hard work and dedication.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks for understanding

[@neverstopz9045]

@Marc Bondura i dont know if it has ads still, this was 9 months ago.

[@sniperrana]

Also make videos on battles which won by Muslims... please

[@FlashPointHx]

Already have - take a look at some of my prior videos - Sagrajas, Guadalete, and Alarcos - I'm doing Vega in my next series of videos as well.

[@joihnbrown1889]

very sad

[@FlashPointHx]

In what way?

[@muhammedfawaz3500]

Battle of Tours or Battle of Bilat Al shuhada was a pyhrric Frankish victory after 10 days of fighting, 50,000 Muslims nearly defeated the 200,000 franks but the death of Émir Abdulrahman and the fear of an encireclement. .forced the muslims To retreat..if Charles won a deciseve battle, he will follow and persute the withdrawing muslim army, but he did NOT because his army suffered a heavy casualties

[@oi7548]

@Gabriel Petkov source ?

[@muhammedfawaz3500]

@Gabriel Petkov Western sources? ! ..The battle lasted 10 days ,Emir Abdulrahman were martyred on the 9th day + the Franks + Germans were 200,000 men The Muslims were +50,000 men (30,000 berbers +18,000 Arabs+ thousands of spaniard muslims ) Casualties : Muslim sources did mention the exact number of casulatied but said many thousands&thousands Franks were killed, more casualties than the muslim army the death of Emir Abdulrahman + Fear of an encireclement + news of the approaching of another frankish army ..Forced the muslims to withdraw

[@ezzovonachalm7534]

No ! The Francs were 10 millions and the arabs about 10 or 12 men !

[@jonathannc9196]

Non ! Les francs etaient 20000 et les musulmans plus nombreux car envahisseurs ! Vos propos sont des mensonges et de la propagandes musulmane ! Les sources musulmanes sont fausses puisque les musulmans ont été battus...

[@Brslld]

200,000? Lmao cope more mudskin

[@skiteufr]

In France we call it the Battle of Poitiers. As it was fought by our ancestors you should call it like us, not Tours. And the reconquista is typically associated to Spain. In France, we quickly defeated the moorish invaders with various battles like this one. There was no reconquista to do like in Spain where they remained hundred of years

[@FlashPointHx]

You can't tell the story of the Reconquista without talking about this battle. Plus - the moors captured a portion of Southern France which was taken back by Charles Martel and his descendants - so it was a French reconquest as well.

[@skiteufr]

@@FlashPointHx to be more precise, the portion of southern France they captured was called Septimania, with Narbonne as capital. This territory was not yet part of France at the time. It was Wisigothic Kingdom, not Frankish. But it was indeed captured by Charles and his son Pepin and integrated to the Frankish Kingdom thereafter

[@FlashPointHx]

@@skiteufr Everyone's interpretation of the Reconquista is different. But you can't tell the story of it without Tours.

[@mitkodimitrov8396]

hmm east europian invasion arab forces witch fought against bulgarians Tervel and greeks is much more terrifying

[@FlashPointHx]

Had they taken Constantinople, Europe would have been very different today

[@yit9893]

Lack of human resources. If all Spaniards converted to Islam, Muslims would be able to use them and conquer all of Europe. The small Islamic Emirates remained in southern France and western Switzerland until the year 990 AD, and they controlled the roads between Rome and France

[@ezzovonachalm7534]

The arabs in "western Switzerland " have been called by Hugo d' Arles, usurpator king of Italy to settle in the alps and control the passage ,in fear that King Beranger who had taken refuge at the Court of Kaiset Otto I, could come to recuperate his italian throne with a german army. These Mauri came from the Provence,where they had a stronghold near Saint Tropez, to assist arab piracy in the north mediterranean coast.These Mauri settled in the Alps during a whole century marrying local mecreant women and, continually plundering small villages,.churches, monasteries, letting descendants in Southern France and Northern Italy.In the local chronicles ( e.g. cartario pagense di Chiavenna, they appear as pertaining to the natione araba and following arabic lex "qui sequimur lege arabica" .They were finally exterminated by local nobles.

[@Brslld]

Im glad they didn't

[@istvansipos9940]

first of all: A "These aren't the droids you're looking for" would have been great at the camp when the raid hit them. or a "Hello there" from the attackers. the what if? question so many so often ask is kinda pointless (this is history, after all) but interesting: islam as it is today: hell no. top day Cordoba science-loving islam: for men, kinda sorta maybe, who knows. For women, probably still not the best possibility. well, maybe their science loving in Cordoba could have formed islam to treat women as humans. We'll never know. as a right handed guy, I am happy we have the proper direction of writing, though. (yes, old fashioned man here, often with museum stuff like pen and paper)

[@FlashPointHx]

hahahah - These aren't the droids you're looking for -- followed with 'move along' move along'. . . I'm in the process of doing a what if video right now. I'm curious how people will respond to that .

[@istvansipos9940]

@@FlashPointHx based on the quality so far, they'll probably love it. embrace for sh!tstorm in the comments, though. especially if it is a ww2 whatif

[@FlashPointHx]

Shit storms I’m used to - been doing this War of the Worlds podcast for two years +

[@ASAogWana]

the battle scenes are weak so no abo.