Great Budget Gaming Headphones! Drop H3X!

[@McTorta]

Great video Josh, the video production on your videos always impresses me and seems to get better and better every video! keep it up!

[@JoshuaValour]

Thanks Tanner

[@SHANLING_Liu]

@@JoshuaValour Are you interested in reviewing SHANLING products?

[@frankf1509]

Shout out to Mick Gordon indeed

[@SubdueOG]

Great video Josh, love my PC38X and have been rocking them since they came out but have been looking for a possible cheaper alternative for some friends for gaming, looks like this may hit the mark!

[@michaelmcgehee5932]

Great video BUT we need a gamer headphone video. What's the best sounding headphone for gaming with just pure sound quality for story based non-competitive games? And what's the best headphone for competitive games? I don't think you've ever weighed in on this in a standalone video that really dives deep into highend gaming headsets or a worst to best list. I would really appreciate your feedback on that.

[@bigdave216]

I recently purchased the pc37x and I'm not sure if I can ever go back to a closed back headset. My favorite to game with has to be the hd58x.

[@pvtghost24]

As an audiophile\musician myself, I agree with how Crinicle puts it. The best gaming headphones isn't actually a "gaming" headphone. Plus to adding a lavaliere microphone combo to "said" headphone of choice. Crinicle has a video relative to gaming headphones at every budget. The newer Koss KPH40 or Koss KSC75 and a "PoP voice" lavaliere microphone with a (for controller users) 4-pole Y-adapter headphone+mic. All for around $50-$60 #PunchAboveTheWeightClass You can always upgrade the Mic later, and. That's the best part, it's a modular setup compared to a "gaming headphone".

[@JoshuaValour]

Generally I agree! The "Best" is usually just a headphone. But it's hard to get a good headphone + Volume control + a good Microphone for $80. Usually you have to pick one. Good headphone for $80? Sure! Good Mic? Yup! But both? While both those koss' sound awesome, neither are closed back headphones. So it's hard to compare apples and oranges.

[@slicktricks88]

My mod mic wireless cost more than this entire headset. So yeah, you can build a gaming headset with proper headphones….probably not for $80. My budget headset was a used HE400i and a mod mic. Cost me around….$300?

[@pvtghost24]

​@@slicktricks88 The lowest distortion profile with some of the best Cumulative Spectral Decay and most accurate obecitvely accurate frequency response (with some slight modding) is the Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee. Speaking from a perfect pitch objective standpoint, not a subjective preference of colored headphones. I did hours and hours of research and went though a couple ofther headphones till I finally landed on them, for primarily gaming. Shure SRH180, AKG K181 and Etymotic ER2XR (best for accuracte music playback). You can definitely put together the pieces I mentioned. I've already bought two setups for friends of mine, and for less than $30, even after hearing the above headphone I have mentioned and them some, the Koss KSC75 and Koss KPH40 sound far better than what you would assume for the price. Don't think for one second just because they're cheap doesn't mean they are horrible. These are some of the very few unicorns. From data out there, the HE400i has terrible Cumulative Spectral Decay, and is far from being obectively accurate as can be seen here in this one example. Not to say it's a terrible headphone, but it's definitely not great. It's a "colorful" headphone and more about a subjective enjoyable experience than accurate sounds reproduction. diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/hifiman/he-400i-2020/

[@pvtghost24]

True, though IMHO I concur with Crinacle on this one, if you're at home, it doesn't neccisarily matter. Sound blead while out in public or someone sleeping next you at home would be the rare instances that closd back is needed. If it were at the desk, couch or streaming neither of the Koss should impact that much if at all while streaming, though experiences could vary on that one. I use my Shure SRH1840 open-back and Sennhieser e935 for zoom calls at work and don't experience noise bleed feedback when in meetings.

[@pvtghost24]

​@@JoshuaValour The added cost of needing a volume control attachment isn't always needed with controllers, though in some instances it might be needed which would add to the cost. On Xbox in my experience I can use both with\without using the mentioned modular setup. And it does seem in my experience that the budget lavalier microphones sound quite better than ones included with most "dedicated" gaming headsets. That's my other feedback too since my househould currenly has for microphones a Sennhieser e935, Sennhieser MKE600, Shure SM7B(Returned for MKE600) and Saramonic Vmic Mini alongside all the microphones of previous gaming headsets I've used.

[@twall6._981]

Yo, does the DROP + EPOS H3X GAMING HEADSET work with xbox?

[@District.24]

Good video, Josh. As a beginner stack for headphones like HD 560S, HD 58X and any Beyerdynamic, would you recommend the Magni+ and Modi+ from Schiit?

[@huntergault6499]

What would be the best closed back headphones for competitive gaming? I’ve used open backs (HD560s) but I feel like I can’t hear footsteps as well. Maybe because I’m in a noise environment. But I currently use the cloud ll. I’m just curious if there’s any other closed backs that would be good for esports. Thank ya!!!

[@rigomortiz]

I have the 38x you recommended and love those so thanks! Also any chance you are gonna make some amp/dac/headphone pairing for xmas gifts guide? Would be most useful this holiday season.

[@simonrockstream]

Fantastic video Joshua!

[@moonsofjupiter]

Nice vid Josh. These seem decent for the price. As far as gaming headsets - I wish i knew about what I’m going to say now years ago… get a good regular headset with a single detachable 3.5mm cable like the Phillips H2XR’s (about $125) and get the V moda 3.5mm cable with their mic ($20-25) It’s a better mic than found on any headset you’ll find under $200. And this will blow away any gaming headset under that price as well.

[@misterperson7070]

The modmic is also good right?

[@moonsofjupiter]

@@misterperson7070 Yes. but I got the BoomPro. Very pleased. Mic is full sounding and not thin and has a mute switch that actually works.

[@daanishafzal5171]

We need a music Playlist from you man! Picked up alot of great tunes from watching your videos

[@jeremymiller3305]

Josh are you going to do a review on Focal Stellia headphone? Is that headphone good for gaming?

[@mahirc3543]

Great video's! Can you review the New anounced Audeze Maxwell please..

[@erickrma07]

Great content as usual. Is there a review coming for the new Fiio K7 DAC/AMP?

[@Dokzom]

Great video, I would love to see you do Steelseries Arctics Nova Pro Gen 2, not sure if it's worth the money!

[@michaelthompson9798]

I personally use the X58 Jubilees 💪✊🥰🤩for my main gaming setup and interchangeable for my music listening. I sometimes love to listen to game audio tracks and other times my own music to suit the game I’m playing and the right headphones / headset can make a real difference 👍😇 to the experience felt.

[@Drewsterman777]

How would you say this compares to the H6 Pro closed back or open back?

[@Fidalgodev]

You should review the H6 Pro and compare both :D

[@wtfgebeurdmij2991]

Please do a review on the final audio e3000! I heard a few youtubers say its their favorite among final audio iems or even in general.

[@gamejaing7447]

Why does everyone who talks about gaming headphones always use FPS games as standard? what about RPG games or AAA games like witcher 3, cyberpunk, rdr2 etc?

[@Thunderkiss655]

I have the Epos H3 and I think they are fantastic for the price. I do believe these are related. Great review!

[@johnathan5807]

Has Josh ever made a video about headphones specifically for rock/metal music, I cant seem to find one about that specifically on his channel; maybe a future video he can do?

[@ryanpowell2793]

Great review, love all your content. For those looking for best of the best imaging for competitive FPS while maintaining some excitement, look at the Tygr 300Rs. You’ll need to buy a mic but you won’t be disappointed. I personally use the Blue Yeti (overkill…don’t need to spend that much) Alternatively, the HD560S are great as well.

[@Thebossreserve]

Friend, to hear footsteps and know the enemy's direction in cs2, which one is best?

[@BaxTechYT]

Great review! Definitely adding these to my list to check out

[@m4nc1n1]

Spend the extra money and get the older PC37X (seen the recently for $99 on Drop) or the superior PC38X ($125 on Amazon)

[@ravantgarde1899]

I agree except some people really need closed back

[@keilinx]

PC38x is amazing

[@TheMstwntdLMSV123]

Absolutely go for the PC38X if it’s not too much of a stretch purchase

[@DaveyJones87]

How do these compare to the H6 Pro?

[@gorter23]

didyou consider de the B&O Portal headphone?

[@soggycracker5934]

For that price, you can get a set of og Clouds, and put the leftover 30 bucks towards a Schiit stack. These things are super flimsy, and do not sound very good. About like the cheapo twenty dollar cans that they really are.

[@visionuse]

You should totally check out the Noua Crux, nobody knows these headphones, and for 30$ the audio quality is immaculate

[@la009895]

this is super strange, this video NEVER popped into my feed, I had to randomly check your profile to see I had missed this one....

[@808jspekeg6]

For gaming, if he's rating the EPOS H3X a 9/10, then it's safe to say the EPOS H6 PRO is a 10/10 gaming headset 😉

[@JayCruz49er]

How do these compare to the GSP 600, 601, 602? I’ve been debating between these and the GSP’s… I know the GSP’s are a little bit more money but only about $20. Are either clearly better? BTW I already have the 37X and 38X but I’m looking for a closed back alternative.

[@stephen0993]

Hi there, Did you buy some of those headphones? I'm debating between the H3 and the H3X, I like headphones with bass so Im not sure about the H3X's

[@JayCruz49er]

@@stephen0993 i did get the H3X and I really like them. Main complaint is the fit. It’s a bit snug but the sound is solid and for $80 you really can’t do better. The PC37X is $80 right. Ok and if you prefer open back I would go with those. Can’t go wrong with either to be honest. In regards to your bass question the H3X is better cuz of the closed back nature. They are very solid. Open back PC37X have great bass as well but if you game in a noisy environment then go with the H3X’s. Enjoy my friend!

[@stephen0993]

@@JayCruz49er thanks, I got the Superlux HD681 Evo, happy with them, great sound and good bass, the only negative I find is I have to use a separate microphone, in my case I'm using my work headphones only for microphone use + the Superlux for audio, a perfect combo for me.

[@AmritSaroe]

Dude , where is moondrop stellars review?

[@Funz]

my friend got these, he rly loves them

[@LeBeautiful]

Shoutout to the mick master, Mick Gordon!

[@nirvanaphoenix1858]

Test VZR model one. Its just 350usd and is better than thousands of dollars headphones.

[@sid_x_18]

I hope they release this is here in India too

[@earthvix]

Whats the difference between this and yhe normal h3?

[@curly5031]

How about compared to the Epos h6 pro open back and closed back ???

[@Hathal_98]

Nice glasses dude

[@Azraenore]

Look at that mousepad. Linus would be proud.

[@obviousanonymous358]

I think that the shp9500 with a mic mod is the best: $83 dollar mic bundle on amazon

[@danielhuang7751]

Anker Space Q45 WHY JOSH! WHY!?

[@cheddarplays3729]

there needs to be a wireless version soon

[@_angel_guerra_]

Hi Josh, I really love your videos, I enjoy all the audiovisual part of it combined with your taste for headphones, and just wondering if you could make a comparison between this headphones and the Razer Blackshark v2, I would really like to hear what you think about those:)

[@KontrolStyle]

the microphone blows away logitech trash, that's a huge plus on a cheapER headset!

[@samuelljackson.]

Mic sound decent

[@toobskuiks116]

Will the audiophile community really recommend these though?

[@rene837]

Looking at that frequency response graph from Drop, probably not.

[@JoshuaValour]

Probably not, nor should they. Great gaming headset. Not a great music headphone.

[@rene837]

@@JoshuaValour Hey Josh, do you plan on reviewing the Sennheiser HD 300 Pro in the future? I almost can't find anything on it on the web, but the single graph from Sonarworks looks rather promising, maybe a bit bloated in the midbass, but otherwise quite nice for a closed back for under 200€ and build quality also seems a lot better than that of the K371 for example.

[@duandabriandika]

Why my pc38x has some “creaking” sound on the headbad everytime i stretch it. did u guys have the same issue?

[@fuhrertitus9141]

mine also make the sound . its normal. don't expect much from a plastic build lol.

[@duandabriandika]

@@fuhrertitus9141 ah thank god, i thought i get the bad product 😔

[@JoshuaValour]

Mine do to. Love em anyways.

[@pedrocostalins8041]

I just wish! But Drop wont sent to Brazil, so now you have to come, yes, you reading, come to Brazil.

[@JoshuaValour]

Sorry m8

[@GoldFus1on]

how does this compare against hd 560s?

[@andresmc210]

Like a Toyota Corolla to an 86.

[@stanwang3085]

i first thought the thumbnail is a middle finger......

[@JoshuaValour]

Haahahhaha I See it!

[@1337wafflezz]

hard pass. that frequency response is something worse than what you’d get with the k361 or mh751 much less IEMs.

[@Whiteshade]

This is Joshua what you expect? All of them are paid review you will see same headset at DMS, Zeos, Joshua at the same time. Those reviewers are mostly never negative about reviews.

[@1337wafflezz]

Ya…this thing is pretty bad. Drop still failed imo Beyer actually has a well tuned gaming headset under $100 too i’m pretty sure. The lack of upper treble is the least of this headphone’s problems… pinna gain is horrendous, silly uneven bass curve. 6khz being the highest level. ugly. ugly ugly ugly. more of a slap in the face too when you realize how ridiculous IEMs have gotten for half or less than half this price. 7hz zero, tangzu wan’er, quarks dsp, and there’s more every day the competition is getting even more insane! this kind of mediocrity would never fly if it wasn’t advertised for “gaymers”

[@psychopopdesign]

Hard sell when MMX 100 is same price

[@حارثامخيبر]

I need one for pubg mobile 🙏

[@samyt681]

3:58 lmao garbage

[@KontrolStyle]

Moondrop Aria are only 20 bux more than t2s, why even buy the t2s? save another 20 bux EZ