Great Voyages: Jason and the Golden Fleece

[@Useaname]

Excellent lecture and comparison to modern day

[@sebolddaniel]

Back in the eighties I was stationed in the Navy in Athens and sailed up through the Hellespont and the Dardanelles to the eastern Black Sea. I did later photograph the poppies that Homer described in the Illiad at Troy, but now I learn about this too late. Oh, well. I didn't kill any monsters or see any harpies but I did photograph some Russian Krivaks. Wonderful lecture.

[@RachelSofaer]

Thank you for sharing this, very interesting story! I especially liked how the lecturer talked about the myths and how they are timeless and gave examples from pop culture today.

[@Useaname]

Agreed

[@atheistphilosopher]

One if the best speakers. Kept me interested and engaged. Fascinating lecture.

[@thomaslozano4135]

Yeah I have to agree with you. The speaker does this lecture so interesting.

[@MrKmanthie]

I like your thumbnail avatar!!

[@sherylcrowe3255]

Thank you

[@JohnChampagne]

The fleece on every branch of the tree is a metaphor for the idea that every river tributary and every creek would have a crew with a box, with wool in the bottom, collecting gold. It was a hint to not leave any creek unexplored. Get everything.

[@THEanemos23]

Thank you for this very interesting and educating lecture

[@linwang7476]

Wonderful speaker wonderful lecture!

[@Kelpie26]

A lovely hello fom Ljubljana, Slovenia.

[@MrKmanthie]

Hi.

[@leeknights5540]

Fabulous! Got totally lost in the story telling

[@dragonzilla6482]

I love the Harryhausen movie Jason and the Argonauts.

[@Ashley-yh1te]

Used this to study!!!

[@halildemirdelen1499]

Congratulations,to Dr.C.Brian ROSE and Penn Museum.

[@castadivanorma8478]

Dr.Rose should know that Argo in greek means ...slow......Are you sure he is a Dr. ....???

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

No it means swift, look it up

[@Bris13]

@@castadivanorma8478 in modern greek it means "slow" but in ancient greek it means "fast". It' s a little bit funny how a language changes through the centuries

[@katherineprongos3929]

Wonderful picture of Maria Callas as Medea.

[@sofiakonermann2308]

Medea it from Georgien 🇬🇪

[@bingeltube]

Very recommendable, but volume is too low

[@chaechong8199]

Really have to reconsider the attitudes to ancient stories that have come down to us from the past, academics have been too quick to dismiss them, too quick to say, "Oh, we figured the whole story out, there's no story there" of why Jason sailed the Argo in the exact itinerary of places in the epic poem. Maybe there's a huge mystery there, maybe we should listen to these clues and hints from the past that speak of a greater civilization than these academics imagine inside their skulls, just like how they kicked and screamed about Göbekli Tepe for decades, they turned out and admitted they were wrong. They all turn out to be disappointing morons, why?

[@senecanzallanute4066]

Who is this guy? He does not know that Greeks travelled to Italy, and possibly farther, well before the end of the Bronze Age?? The island of Pythekusae (modern Ischia) was a Mycenaean emporion in the XIV century BCE. The Mycenaeans had a bronze smelting station in Isida, near Naples. Not to mention the Scoglio del Tonno. And vice versa, the Sea Peoples included (likely) folks from Sardinia (Shrdn) and Sicily (Skl) who traveled to the Levant around XII BCE. Oh my...

[@caleymcguill225]

The Greek word δράκων (Euripides Medea 480) can mean "dragon" or "serpent".

[@dragonmartijn]

Draco = snake

[@free_gold4467]

He dismisses the very 'possibility' of a Greek voyage to the Black Sea in the late Bronze age, that's just so wrong that it calls into question all of his interpretation. My interpretation is that he's intimidated by the 'sexual athletes' of the heroic age and wants to mock and deny their achievements.

[@MidnightPixie79]

great insight. thanks

[@historysmysteriesunveiled8043]

Their redaction of the acts of Nimrod & the Babylonians. Stories borrowed by the Greeks & the Romans.

[@historysmysteriesunveiled8043]

Zeus is Nimrod 💎

[@darlzchriz1320]

Great lecture

[@amaxamon]

Dr. No was the "original" Bond movie ;)

[@MrKmanthie]

Yes. It was the "original" in that it was the 1st Bond movie.

[@thaddeusexmachina27]

centaurs might have evolved from the portrayal of god riding a horse, portraying god as the man and the man as the beast. two beings merged into one.

[@MrKmanthie]

but which "god"? There've been so many over the millennia.

[@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733]

@@MrKmanthie there is only one god. With many names.

[@MikeGreenwood51]

@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 So you think Zeus is the same as Poseidon as well as your monotheo supposed God? Is he also Mrs God, Hera and Mary the mother of God?

[@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733]

@@MikeGreenwood51 erm, I don't think anything pal. You are lucky to be here. Here I go, here's the secrets of the gnostics. To know..... What ever God is, I don't know. But something had to of come first. You can only be first once. So what ever God is, he was first. And he was alone and nameless. Because he was first there was no one to name him. When he realised he was alone, he felt lonely. So he created another, out of him. Zin and zang. And out of those two came a third, their son. Created out of them both. And the generations began. All from one. He not only named himself, but he conceived his partner and children... sooo

[@SEPK09]

Might as well just of read the 1963 Movie script because this is what it is?!?!?!!

[@darrelgustafson2507]

It's not a cat video, but it will do for entertainment I guess.

[@garytucker5748]

they used fleece in river beds to trap river gold,then hung fleece in tree to dry,slaves and guards i guess were called dragons!!

[@nicholaijerome7583]

First time I've heard of a fleece. I'm an amateur gold prospector (emphasis on amateur, more of a student of the science over application). The use of creek moss for this I find parralel.

[@metaldetectingtoursgeorgia7835]

@Legends of the Ancients Hi It was actually alluvial gold they were collecting in the fleece and this practice still exists in the mountainous region of Svaneti. My wife is Georgian and I have been studying Georgian history for 10 years. There is a possibility that Jason's voyage was actually real.

[@metaldetectingtoursgeorgia7835]

@Legends of the Ancients You could be right about the 400 years, but i dont believe Georgia has Tin, I know the Romans etc travelled to Cornwall in the U.K for the tin used in Bronze for the Bronze age. You should go to Georgia its a beautiful country with a crazy amount of history in fact Sakdrisi was the oldest goldmine in the world in Georgia dating back to 3-4000 B.C.

[@metaldetectingtoursgeorgia7835]

@Legends of the Ancients Yes my sister in law in Georgia is a professor and has scholar friends that have studied Jason's route etc. Tim Severin did the voyage in the 90s and our friends met him during his voyage up the Phassis now Rioni river to where Jason was meant to have come to Kutaisi.

[@darrelgustafson2507]

I remember seeing that on a documentary years ago. Georgia has quite a history in the development of grapes and wine I only recently became aware of.

[@akadee2986]

I think killings of children Medea did was not to get back to Jason, rather then it was Sacrifice for betrayal of her kingdom… she killed her furthers son… she obviously took back all the goodness she considered she brought to Jason’s life. She sacralised her father family and it weekend her fathers kingdom, does she punished her self as well. She had nothing left of her love….

[@pontiacpaul1]

hes wrong, bronze age greeks traveled very far .

[@pontiacpaul1]

also I forgot , there been a crater vase found that dates back to 800 bc with Jason on it , its oldest greek travel myth. and theres no trade back then because they were pirates they took only

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

You didn't watch and listen to the lecture.

[@metaldetectingtoursgeorgia7835]

@@pontiacpaul1 Colchis ancient Georgia was the birthplace of bronze age dating back at least 4000 B.C The ancient Greeks and Romans travelled to Georgia for metallurgy ,Gold and wine(Georgia birthplace also) Ancient Vani close to the river Phasis in Georgia is a town full of Gold artefacts, Roman and Greek goods. Have at search for Vani Georgia, very interesting(Fitzwilliam video is best)

[@katiewever5687]

These monster were nephilum n very real

[@GGAngie-wp1he]

Poor Helle :(

[@leelopez4544]

Medea deserved better!

[@vecvan]

46 🤧

[@subSapiens_]

An example of how low educational levels can fall.. dude, go work for Disney !!

[@AnimeCharley]

Don't the techies at Penn State know that there are microphones that are PORTABLE??? The technology DOES exist!!! They clip unto the lapel or collar and you don't have the problem that when the presenter walks away from the lectern YOU CAN'T HEAR THEM!!!!

[@Holy_hand-grenade]

AnimeCharley this isn't penn state. It's Penn. big difference. Penn is on the level with Harvard and Yale.

[@lowrydan111]

not penn state

[@MrKmanthie]

Penn State is a school for up & coming pedophiles.

[@BalkanCrusader]

it is funy how Adriatic sea is always out of Greek stories and mythology..most beautifull place in Europe,maybe in a world,but Greeks didn't knew nothing about it..that only prove that ancient Troy is located in Adriatic and Balkan.. i think that Trojans were just using mythology to keep their unvanted guest out of Adriatic..

[@MrKmanthie]

Troy was/is located at the western edge of what is now Turkey, right on the Dardanelles, aka Hellespont. Aeneas, a veteran of the possibly mythical Trojan war, after the "war" made his way, eventually, to Italy, where he was instrumental in founding Rome.

[@BalkanCrusader]

@@MrKmanthie true,but Aeneas just cross the Adriatic,just like Odysseus is wandering through the Adriatic sea for ten years after the war.. Anatolia was under Hittites rule 1200.bc.. ancient Illyria is what Greeks called Troy.. many evidences for that,from megalithic culture,and history of war,to the fact that these people in federation with others were first candidates for famous Sea people.. Illyrians learned Romans how to build better and faster ships among others.. and the name Iliad.. you won't search for poem Skandisaga on Iberian peninsula,right?:) Hisarlik is excavate for150 years,teams from around world,and yet they can't confirm it's a Troy.. what Schlieman found was one of the Trojan colonies on Mediteranean..

[@MrJafredderf]

Belariphon

[@KMKintheUK]

bad bad bad!

[@erolgermannemmanuel5637]

Athena daughter of Zeus (!)

[@dervismahmutcehajic1970]

It is not jason it is Yason ask all Greeks

[@ddpp1420]

What Great confusion with Greek History and they call themselves Academics Try again

[@free_gold4467]

Shame he plays it for laughs so much.

[@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733]

The golden fleece is the armour of god. You have to go though trials and tribulations to gain the armour of god. These fools can never work it out.

[@ddpp1420]

What an absolute weak interpretation of Ancient Greek History

[@ddpp1420]

@Legends of the Ancients You w120% right My interpretation will leave you spell bound of which I am trying to get out soon Sorry for my late response too you

[@darlenejohnson1721]

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[@zhelyazkodimitrov4027]

This is not interesting. Only myths. Bla-bla-bla...