Great Voyages: The Odyssey, Nostalgia, and the Lost Home

[@cherylnagy126]

the Mediterranean Sea was the Internet of antiquity

[@amarforest]

This is a great lecture. I have watched it at least 3 times. Exceptional!!!!!

[@markusbroyles1884]

Like the Bible the homer epic just keeps on giving ~

[@magdalenaholt2967]

thank you so much !

[@Fresh562]

A great, very authentic way to tell the story. If you read these very old texts (like Homer and Herodotus), you see clearly that they are intended to educate AND to to entertain, to make people wonder, laugh and shock them. Definately not to bore them to death. Always keep in mind that the audience often consisted of children, too.

[@whatdoiknowimjustatowel3974]

Fresh boooooo

[@BlueBaron3339]

Unexpectedly delightful! Unexpected because these sorts of filmed lecture videos span quite a range. Always loved the Odyssey since I was a kid back in the early '50s - not because I was some highbrow budding child scholar, but because Kirk Douglas did such a wonderful job of playing Odysseus in the 1954 film 😂 I was past early middle age when I actually read it, and not in Greek certainly. Later I'd regard it in a wholly "unscholarly" light as the finest work of fantasy and science fiction in history. And a *lot* more fun to read than Tolkien 😉

[@gabriellaritaart]

Amazing

[@Lara__]

How come there are no slides to this presentation? They go blank after 18:30. Maybe having slides would have been more engaging, as a lecture.

[@sleepygrumpy]

Excellent

[@mkgeetha]

Awesome 👍

[@alanh2830]

Excellent. Scholarly yet entertaining.

[@slappy420usa]

Understanding what is NOT home, gives us a better understanding and greater appreciation for what IS home.

[@darlzchriz1320]

Great Lecture

[@slappy420usa]

is there any evidence for a connection between the act of contacting someones "knee" in the Greek custom to apply for supplicant status, thus implying you are in "need" and similar phonetics of the words? In other words, do the words "knee" and "need" sound similar because of an ancient Greek custom? If so that is wild. Thousands of years later and ancient customs still play a role in our vernacular.

[@eliaskatogyritis2011]

We get knee from ancient Greek "gonu"

[@vecvan]

touching her knee kind of implies beeing on one's knees or in a lower position. Weird idea though, because *need* would then most likely belong to *ni- "down" (cp. nether-, German Niederland).

[@Opa-Leo]

The epic poem was transmitted orally over the centuries by professional bards. This tradition is still alive. To hear what Homer would have sounded like go to 17 min of this video. It sounds great even though it is a Turkish epic. ​​kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGW0ga1oqZqHaaM​

[@ruibeto]

Schiliemann is from XIX century not XVIII lol ! Very informative and interesting.

[@vecvan]

guess he was born xiixth? why guess, I could look it up, hardly even matters

[@jonathansutcliffe3401]

delineation of cities and towns... in what shape are these towns etc set out? anyone checked?

[@JohnMorley1]

Homer says that people who you think are Phoenicians are punished by the gods with their city buried in a mountain. The message being to not help strangers. Also, that place is described as an island so not the Phoenicians. Sounds more like Santoreni to me.

[@vecvan]

phoenicians commonly built harbours on small rocks close to shore, basically islands.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Troy was never really lost or just thought to be myth and then to be miraculously discovered by Schliemann. That is just part of Schliemann's mythbuilding around himself. Not to take away from the tremendous work he did there and with other digs. Interesting lecture otherwise.

[@whatdoiknowimjustatowel3974]

zapfanzapfan NOBODAY CARES ABOOT YOUR STOOPID FUXKING MOUTH FLAPPING

[@kentroklus]

How this video only has 69 likes is beyond me. Excellent lecture! Thank you!

[@mesimesi2313]

Ken Troklus it's only for people that enjoy the finer things in life.

[@whatdoiknowimjustatowel3974]

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[@whatdoiknowimjustatowel3974]

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[@whatdoiknowimjustatowel3974]

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[@jonathansutcliffe3401]

is it true that the myths, rather than take place on the greek mainland/black sea, took place around the coast of western italy/sicily?

[@sinclair2207]

i'll suggest that you read Felice Vinci's book .. The Baltic Origins of Homers's Tales - then you will get another perspective on what did happen and where ..

[@whatdoiknowimjustatowel3974]

sinclair2207 ME POOPY ALL OVER THE STREET AND LIKE LOTUS THE BLUE FLOWER

[@ivornelsson2238]

Something is seriously wrong in the interpretation here! ---------------- How did they manage to store enough soldiers into the built Trojan Horse to conquer Troya? ----------------- Obviously archeologists don’t get this Troy Myth correctly, taking an astronomical and cosmological Story of Creation description to count for geographical locations and describing human psychological and warlike matters.

[@vecvan]

couple guys to tople the guards and open the gates I figure

[@jonathansutcliffe3401]

autarky noun: autarchy economic independence or self-sufficiency. "rural community autarchy is a Utopian dream" a country, state, or society which is economically independent. plural noun: autarkies; plural noun: autarchies refer to: autochthony... mistakes in history... jewish desire for autarky was also german 1930's state desire... i am not stirring the pot so to speak - merely making vague references to past-present representations of myth...

[@Sinsteel]

In the current era they're more interested in making everything economically dependent on everything else, mostly China.

[@Opa-Leo]

02:48 Ancient Turkey, Are you kidding. Turkey was established in 1923. There is nothing ancient about it. Before it was Ottoman Empire.

[@miastupid7911]

There was no Ancient Turkey

[@SavageHenry777]

*ah-HEM*ACSHUALLY I think you mean ANATOLIA *heheh*

[@miastupid7911]

@@SavageHenry777 still there was no Ancient Turkey find a dictionary for the word you mention.

[@SavageHenry777]

@@miastupid7911 I was just imitating the way you come across. You didn't put any timestamp to where in the video you are referencing, so I cant know if whatever "ancient turkey" reference you're talking about could be replaced with the word Anatolia. This guy knows Turkey didn't exist until the 20s I'm willing to bet, and his audience does too. It's a bit of an irrelevancy. Sometimes country names are used colloquially as region names.

[@miastupid7911]

Then it's perfectly right to say what is now known as Turkey

[@SavageHenry777]

@@miastupid7911 I'm sure you're right. Why wouldn't Anatolia be correct to use in whatever context you're talking about though?

[@smartidea2987]

I hope somebody enter the mentality of those American scholars to tell them that making jokes and being funny in lecturing is so disgusting. Making so shows them to be mean and disrespecting others. I couldn’t complete viewing this lecture for that reason. So, more order and less or even no fun at all, for we are not kids needs to be entertained with these cheap jokes in order to understand the subject.

[@vdoniel]

Hahahaha that's funny.

[@vdoniel]

If you don't like the American culture you are free to listen to your preferred culture. This is America and Penn U is in America the greatest most loved country in the world.

[@seansmith3058]

Polyphemus, is that you?

[@Wowzersdude-k5c]

I don't think anyone is trying to be disrespectful. These scholars have devoted their careers to studying ancient Greece, so they obviously have a lot of respect for the Greek culture. As do I. Indeed everyone in the western world should have much respect for Greece because they pretty much started it all.