Great Western Trail | Game the Game

[@alexxpfister]

Very happy you played my game, thank you! Thanks also for all the positive comments!!

[@deanlowdon8381]

Alexander Pfister Picked this up about a month or so ago and really enjoying it, although I can’t seem to win 😡

[@alexxpfister]

Happy to hear this (I mean the part that you enjoy the game) :-)

[@andrewtandra]

@alexander pfister love every game you publish, your art especially! Cheers from Jakarta

[@samiamagaimagain]

As with any deckbuilder, you don't shuffle until you need to draw. This is important because you discard first then draw meaning if you shuffle early the last discarded card doesn't end up in your deck and you won't have access to it for a while. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the video and thd interaction between players. Thanks for a great video!

[@HITFORDCYCLE1]

Yes!!!! Finally a medium heavy game!! Love this one. Well done teaching this one.

[@scyldscefing3913]

I just bought this game, and worked my through the first play-through. This confirmed my game. Thanks.

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

An absolutely amazing game, and a great video about it.

[@RobbWynnr]

Thanks Becca! I've played this once and MAN did we get a lot of rules wrong! Your playthrough and rule explanations were extremely helpful (and entertaining!). 😁♥️

[@Xabrewolf]

At 1:26:31, shouldn't it have cost her 6 dollars, as one cowboy was utilised for revealing new cards?

[@ethantowne8284]

1:48:40 - "And everyone's happy. You know that's the most important thing. Except for the cows that we sent off to be slaughtered" - Becca Scott Words to live by.

[@TheRealScience86]

Things that are making me crazy in this video after the first trip to KC. 1) Arrange the cattle market so that the the cows with a particular breeding value are under the price for cows of that value (in other words put the 3s on the left, then the 4s, then the 5s) 2) The auxiliary action is actually, draw a card, and then discard. This is important because you can see what you draw before you decide what to discard. More than once they did the discard first. 3) Why didn't they explain the rules to the players ahead of time (maybe do a practice round or 2 before filming)? It's clear that Becca is the only one who understands the rules. It's not fun to watch people make poor choices because they don't understand the goal or the consequences.

[@bigdream_dreambig]

13:51 I would recommend "Cattle Contessa" for the alliteration. 😝

[@captainted6290]

Useful video, thanks. Only bit of constructive feedback I’d give is that by all making the same moves at the start it doesn’t show off all the different tile types. Good work though and helped us start the game quicker than just with the booklet!

[@Shadow_Okami]

Yay! The SCA is incredible!

[@HaviccB]

Great game. Needs more love

[@grandad1982]

You mean the game rated as the 10th best on bgg?!

[@amrmax695]

Perfect! I'm currently learning this game as well :)

[@Sean_AF]

if I had someone over to play games and they licked their finger before touching the cards I would freak out 😅

[@feekygucker2678]

Preach! It made me twitch just watching it.

[@travisrussill]

Just a suggestion (not sure if Wil Wheaton reads these) but if you could get Jensen Ackles, Jared Padelecki and Mark Pellegrino play "Touch of Evil - Supernatural game" ? Would be hilarious

[@thecryophile4195]

Alright, after you didn't finish a game after promising to, I quit watching. But now you've got me back with Jason Charles Miller.

[@mattm5296]

bg music is a bit loud, but the game looks great

[@huntersorce20]

At 1:23:13 he forgot that he had to stop his movement on becca's red square since it had the stop sign on it

[@Garion0000]

You actually don't stop on those tiles, you just have to pay whoever owns it. If the tile is neutral (hazard or teepee) you pay the bank.

[@huntersorce20]

oh. my bad, but he didn't pay either, so mistakes were still made

[@bertruslanus]

@@huntersorce20 that's not your fault. She did a mistake explaining the rule.

[@adamgourley6412]

40:06 Nice Oklahoma! reference.

[@bigdream_dreambig]

You can turn the radiator on whenever you want some heat. 🔥

[@stephenwyatt3190]

sSuper psyched to watch. Just kicked my father-in-law's butt at t.his game. An easy to play game with more complex strategies than you may expect.

[@jasonmartinalaska]

“Toot toot, bitches.”

[@foxyproxy123]

As always Geek and Sundry dem rules errors tho! I do love GWT.

[@maximilianberbechelov]

Becca is one of the coolest girls of the internet, but it's really not fun if she's the only one who knows the rules...

[@Reggie1408]

Where is Wil Wheaton?

[@jobberslayer]

Very cool to see you guys play something meatier, cow meat that is. MMMMMMMM....hamburger.

[@iokcs]

I wanna travel beccas great western trail

[@Norvik_-ug3ge]

How hard is it to say Air-Shere? #woefulpronunciation #yanks

[@Crs9072]

@28:30 Becca is cheating by moving too many spots with the train and going to the station. She had only 1 train person, so she should have moved just one space to the space before station.

[@ShelleyDanielle]

Noticed that as well. They are called turn out spaces, and they count as one additional space between each space it emerges from.

[@samiamagaimagain]

She advises another player to do the same thing around 53:30 and she moves her own again in the same way at around 1:20:30. I don't think she means to cheat. She just doesn't know it costs another movement to move into the stations. She thinks you slide in for free.

[@evansmith2958]

@@samiamagaimagain I'm confused how train movement works

[@samiamagaimagain]

@@evansmith2958 Watch the Heavy Cardboard playthrough of Great Western Trail. They know the rules.

[@Nain1982]

you do realize that the main purpose of these videos is for people to see how the game plays, right? People complain all the time about "heavier" games not being covered and here she finally does one and yet here a bunch of negativity. It's OK if they made mistakes, it doesn't mean she cheated. You could just clarify that a "mistake" was made instead of accusing her of cheating.

[@bigdream_dreambig]

Someone tried to teach three of us this for an hour and failed utterly, so I figured it was too much of a pain to bother with. Now I'm thinking the teacher was just a terrible communicator -- although this game does still seem too complex for its own good.

[@bcmaledragon]

It's a very simple game to teach and to play to be honest. I've taught it to quite a few people and all within 15min each time. The game is fun and they did kinda screw up a few things within the first 30min of this video(Which is where I stopped watching tbh).

[@pimentoloaf1509]

Hahaha too complicated? Have you...played...modern board games? This one is rated among the best there is. (Tenth ALL TIME) Maybe 13 dead end drive is more your speed.

[@ShabbaDabb]

All those Mooooves

[@moxavenger]

Your face was made for smiling!

[@Norvik_-ug3ge]

The least interesting thing about cowboys is the cattle.

[@fluxion2049]

Oh my god Becca I love you but that first yeeha sound made me cringe so much

[@Samael1113]

They are saying that to everyone who watches the video Frogy. This isn't a private game between 3 people, this is a game with 3 players, a production staff, an HR department and potential for 2+ million viewers, some of whom happen to be NAN. That's a wonderfully ironic statement Havicc, nothing like saying "That's not acceptable" then encouraging your kids to do it. That's definitely how a people evolve past the bullshit. And this isn't an academic video, where it would actually be acceptable. Also, "First Nations" isn't really a thing in the states. While I've see it used more often over the past decade, it's still pretty rare.

[@KYMXER59]

Will Wheaton always the loser, Becca Scott always the winner.

[@JoseGomez-ys3zs]

Third

[@SpydersByte]

who wants to take bets on how often Becca cheats this time, or how often she somehow gets the best possible RNG over and over again? :D

[@SpydersByte]

2 days later, I've finally finished the video, and what a surprise.... Becca won. Though I'm not sure if she cheated at all, game was too hard to follow to tell.

[@nightcatarts]

SpydersByte I think she cheated at 1:25:48 because she spent one of her cowboys & then used its discount (which should have been 1 cowboy after the spend), but yea it's hard to follow. Still can't hold it against her though.

[@SpydersByte]

@Night Cat hah! I've just come to expect cheating and probability-smashing rolls from her.

[@nightcatarts]

SpydersByte #BeccaWinsOneWayOrAnother

[@SpydersByte]

lol :D

[@williamchristopher1560]

Too hard for me, at least watching it on here.. IF she went at 1/2 speed,. I might get a handle on it.

[@pimentoloaf1509]

The game includes a very nicely laid out rulebook. Any board game worth playing is going to have tough and meaningful choices, which translates to...rules.

[@bcmaledragon]

With this being my all time favourite Euro style game I had to stop after only watching this for the first 30min because of the 3 MISTAKES with regards to rules that Becca and the others fucked up on(I don't blame the other players because they had no clue about this game beforehand). 1) The first blunder was that neither Becca nor one of the others payed each other $ for passing the 1st PRIVATE building each other owned. The rule is that when you pass someone else's private building you MUST pay them $ unless you don't have the $. 2) When the one guy bought the one yellow cow for $6 instead of 2 cows for another amount because he didn't have the money although he had 2 cowboys she was suppose to turn over and add 2 more cows to the market because the rule is for every 1 cowboy worker you DON'T use when purchasing cows at the market you replenish the market with 2 cows. 3) The GREEN and BLACK hands on your private buildings DON'T mean that the other players have to STOP and pay you money for being there they're there to indicate how much money someone owes you when they either STOP on your building or pass over it when moving. In a 3 player game the GREEN hand on said buildings mean you get paid $2 anytime someone lands on or passing by your building when moving and the BLACK one means that player pays you $1. And I was SO looking forward to seeing an amazing game get played correctly.

[@barrythescott]

Point number 2 is wrong I'm afraid. You may only use each Cowboy up to once but you don't have to use them all. So you MAY use any one Cowboy to draw two cards if you wish.

[@danieldavalos3562]

Point 1 is wrong. You only pay for going over private buildings with hands. Point 2: he should've been able to buy 2 yellow cows for $3 each, I believe, because you can buy as many cows as you can afford when you go to the cattle market. I've never heard of the replenish rule, but I haven't read the rule book in a while. I've never played with that rule, though-my understanding was that you only replenish the cattle market when the job marker passes the yellow icon. Point 3 is correct.

[@bertruslanus]

@@danieldavalos3562 he couldn't have bought 2 yellow cows for 3$ each. You can only use each cowboy 1 time. So with 2 cowboys it's 12$ for 2 cows. He would have needed 4 (or 3, i don't remenber) to have the ability to buy two cows for 5$. You can add 2 cows to the market for 1 cowboy. It's printed on the board, along with the price list for the cows. You can't miss it.

[@diamondmeeple]

This girl.... abit masculine and dominant.... or is this just my opinion? :-D

[@samiamagaimagain]

Per Sørlie I guess you don’t know many American girls :)

[@Samael1113]

So, Becca, and the G&S production staff... Maybe you were unaware, but North American Natives are **NOT** from India or The Indies. It would be arguably less insulting to call them Redskins.

[@HaviccB]

Simmer down...

[@Samael1113]

Ok, go walk up to a Filipino and call them Japanese, or most of eastern Europe and call them Russian, or an Iranian and call them Arab see how well that flies my ignorant friends.

[@HaviccB]

@@Samael1113 while i agree that its no longer acceptable to refer to them as Indian, but when referring to the old west, its 'Cowboys and Indians' not ' Cowboys and First Nations'... ridiculous.

[@frogyforever]

Samael 11 no one would go up to a person and say that. They were playing a game calm down.

[@randomelephant4476]

Wait what? You're not calling Indians Indians already at your place? Wow. How come Americans are still Americans though? They aren't all offspirngs of Amerigo or anything, yet it's still America? Weird stuff...

[@TheMgween92]

As a vegan, this game makes me very uncomfortable.

[@nightcatarts]

All that cardboard making you hungry, eh? Happily the rules don't seem to mention eating any of the cows. They's just fer lookin' at.. "Beef" is a playful nickname, that's all.

[@moreteabishop5405]

What about Sushi Go or Lord of the Fries?

[@moreteabishop5405]

Maybe you should sty at home and avoid reading, watchng TV and videos or listenng to the radio just in case.

[@Vitriolicneu]

Maybe you should grow up.

[@kingplayer14]

Sadly, I just wasted two hours and I’ll never get it back. Kind of boring to watch. The game seems longer than it should be.

[@SpydersByte]

wasted 2 hours? You chose to watch it. It's a board game, what the hell did you expect? You didn't come here to watch an action movie.

[@57thorns]

They are playing a bit slow yes, because they are showcasing the game, so they have to explain a lot of what they are doing in detail, including alternatives. I have been quite unimpressed by many of the previous episodes but this was ok. A bunch of rules errors as always, including when to shuffle your discard pile: When you must draw a card from your personal draw stack but have no cards left in that stack, then (and only then) pick up your personal discard pile, shuffle it thoroughly and place it as your new face-down personal draw stack to the left of your player board. Then continue to draw cards from it as usual. This difference can be critical, so there is a reason both guys ask about it, and it is annoying the Becca keeps getting it wrong. So there is still a lot of work to do before this becomes a really good board game show, pointing out errors made in post production is one of those things you need to do.