Ken Norton || LOSSES

[@artlucio9756]

Ken and Larry had a war going exceptional boxers in the 70,80,s for sure

[@jmarra07]

He had some spectacular losses, and some insane wins

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Overrated never won the belt didn't win it in the ring 1 defense & lost Jerry Coney bet ken in th÷ 1 round ..stop it .ok fighter not a good champion

[@terrenceperkins5282]

What win beat ali once broke ali jaw cause ali was playing around don't over do if

[@jmarra07]

@@terrenceperkins5282 Learn English before being stupid

[@donavonhoward114]

Norton's left hook counters were so crisp. He had a lot more extention on his left hooks than most fighters do. He usually got full extension out of it, and it's very accurate.

[@johngrimkowski598]

YeSSSSSSSSSSSS!

[@kevinballenger1211]

Ken Norton Was Good Against Fighters Who Stayed Away From Him Like: Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, And Jimmy Young. But Against Fighters Who Brought The Fight To Him Like: George Foreman, Gerry Cooney, Or Ernie Shavers, He Never Fared Well! 🥊

[@triplejunction7073]

Ken was an exceptionally crafty pressure fighter with a great jab and heavy hands. He could hang with any boxer or counterpuncher. His problem was that he had to come forward to be effective Norton wasn’t able to fight off the back foot. He was extremely vulnerable if the opponent was powerful enough to force him to go backwards. He would completely unravel.

[@johngrimkowski598]

yes I noticed that remember Shavers and Foreman? I liked kenny he was my favorite I like Norton the boxer and Norton the man and Norton the boxer.

[@KlaxxJaxx1984]

Yeah he was pretty much tall version of fraizier

[@triplejunction7073]

They were both trained by Eddie Futch . Frazier was tougher and harder hitter but Norton had a really good jab and probably more skillful

[@terrenceperkins5282]

No he wasn't what top fighter get knock out twice in the 1st round he a ok fighter never the belt in the ring never won the belt bck 2 defense of the belt he lost overrated lol

[@michaelwilks6268]

Norton for Ali was like Randy Turpin was for Sugar Ray Robinson and Sandy Sadler was for Willie Pep. The three gave the superior boxers grief because of their awkwardness, strength and relentlessness.

[@mskidi]

Ali wasnt a superior boxer at that point. He was ring savy enough to use his natural advantages, against the big hitters, who all were slower than him and the swarmers, who were all smaller than him. Those who could outmuscle him, would gass out trying to keep up on points and those who could keep up had to take 3 punches before they could get close enough to land one. Norton was as big as Ali, as strong as Ali bodywise, had as big of a reach, had stamina, and could hit strong enough to keep Ali constantly on the backfoot. So, it all came down to skill, and Ali's deficiencies, especially on the defensive end, were being exposed round after round.

[@michaelwilks6268]

@mskidi Ali was always a superior boxing to all of them. Norton was just a hard punching awarkward fighter that had Ali number. You always run into guys like that that give you hell because they have an unconventional approach and movements that offset your rhythm. That's why I equated that fight to those fights that I described. Especially Pep and Saddler, Pep was definitely always the superior boxing out of the two. But Saddler's wiry cobra like strength used to wear him out. And smother his attempts to mount a sufficient enough offense to contreract his steady and relentless countering attempts .

[@mskidi]

@@michaelwilks6268 Pep was a scientific fighter, Ali wasnt even close to one. He had enough physical tools in his arsenal to allow him to excel without being one.

[@michaelwilks6268]

@mskidi That's bullshit, and all that's needed for me to prove myself right. Is to point to the three fights in which he showcased, in my opinion, the most veracious evidence for me having this opinion in the first place. Which were the Liston, Williams, and Forman fights. His agility and quickness did not win those fights for him exclusively, His mastery of the ring and his above average ring prowess is what won the day in those fights. Not just his fleet feet and fast hands. He out boxed Liston before he beat him down, and he out boxed Forman in the same manner. Before he wore him out and took his crown. Whatever, you might think of the rope a dope. He was out boxing Forman while laying on those ropes. And as for the Cleveland big cat, Williams fight That was like watching the Nicholas Brothers or Baryshnikov and Michael Jackson all rolled up into one. It was simply superb,extraordinary, mesmerizing indescribable all these words and more, more, more. Also, let's investigate the latter stages of his career. Where you can't blame your hypnosis of his speed of his hands and the fleetness of his feet. The fights that I'm referring to are the Spinks and Shavers fights. You mean to tell me that wasn't superior boxing that he exhibited to regain his title in that fight. No matter how slow the delivery might have looked. And if he had lost his mind and tried to slug with Shavers what do you think that the outcome would have been. You can say that about Roy Jones because we all witnessed his demise. After his speed and natural attributes waned and erode over the years but not Ali. Ali was a Zen Master in the pugglists' art.

[@mskidi]

@@michaelwilks6268 The Listons, the Cleveland Williams, the Foremans, the Lyles, the Shavers, all of'em werent gonna beat Ali in a million years. He was as big as as them, he was faster than them, he could connect from more angles than them, he'd tie them up and mandhandle them, the moment they managed to connect and because they were punching with full strength, they'd get tired by round 5. Them especially, could never beat Ali, but not because he was some complete master of the boxing art. His defense was attrocious, he couldnt defend a left hook to save his life, his inside fighting was non existent, he couldnt punch hard with either hand whilst light on his feet, rarely he threw any combos but a 1-2, he couldnt stand and trade, but he was tall, big, fast, smart, could jab, could move and could tie, could eat a good punch and thats about all you need in boxing. You know who put up a boxing clinic vs Foreman? Jimmy Young boxed the heck out of that fight.

[@sportshistorybuff319]

Before Norton's loss to Garcia, he has been getting confident enough to ignore his handler's instructions/training. Only after getting KO'd did he start to listen to whatever advice they were trying to give him. Same thing happened to Joe Louis before the first Schmeling fight, got apathetic or complacent believing in their invincibility, cutting corners in training, diet, etc.

[@johngrimkowski598]

WOW! You are knowledgeable of boxing I eat ,sleep and drink boxing for many years but I still can learn from people like you. You are sharp as nails.

[@thegoat6116]

ken norton did super great against slick boxers but he always came up short against power punchers

[@jonglewongle3438]

Three of those 6 Norton losses were categorical thrashings versus Foreman, Shavers, and Cooney, and going out in 1 or 2 rounds is not necessarily the preferred thing on one's scorecard, but with the other 3 of those 6 losses he put Ali and Holmes totally to the test, and it was not just going the distance with an honorable loss on points, but it was split points and / or entirely debatable.

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Ken overrated no matter what u say did not win the belt in the ring never won the belt 1st title defense he lost Jerry knock him out in the 1st round lol please stop 😅

[@terrenceperkins5282]

And who did ken beat lol😊

[@felixalbertocubahechavarri2249]

Fue un Grande por su Coraje como Peleador Kent Norton

[@youtoo2233]

I wonder what the punch stats are in that second Ali fight, they both landed a lot.

[@grandduke2145]

Whenever Norton fought someone of his own size and strength. ……

[@ruzcelbeltran]

Shaver's really fell norton to sleep R.I.P both fighter also R.I.P ali.champ

[@Alexis40353]

Acojonantes los dos!!!.

[@LCHINGON51]

Cool video but you forgot Jose Luis Garcia KO of Ken Norton in 1970 when Norton was 16-0. Knocked Norton down 3 times!

[@hudaarifathul6950]

Nobody have ever found the tape and upload it to KZbin

[@funktron4]

Would love to see video of Norton Vs. Garcia I------their first fight. I don't know if that exists. That was a loss. Ken won the second fight against Garcia, and that one is on You Tube----great fight.

[@johngrimkowski598]

help me

[@donavonhoward114]

Honestly, I think he beat Ali 3 times out of 3 fights. The only problem is that you aren't going to win a decision 3 consecutive times against Ali in extremely close fights because the judges will tend to give Ali an extra round or two when it comes to the swing rounds, and that goes for many of the great fighters that are beloved by the public more than average. In order to beat Ali even twice, Ken Norton would have had to knock Ali out, or at least get a knock down at some point in order to win or get another favorable decision. Joe Frazier had to do that against Ali in their first fight. Without Joe Frazier getting the knock down against Ali, Ali might have been able to edge him out on points in a split decision just based on his work rate, and the swing rounds.

[@romienomie]

Honestly I don't

[@johngrimkowski598]

yesssssssssss i agree

[@deanvoss7098]

💯 percent..!! Ali lost all 3 fights to Ken Norton... Ali is an all time great NOT the greatest of all time.. A matter of fact Larry Holmes was more accomplished..!!

[@active.7universal]

that's what you get for thinking

[@active.7universal]

​@@deanvoss7098Ali after layoff out of peak condition with speed reflexes and stamina won 2out of 3 //prime for prime Ali wouldn't have lost the first.. Ali in 66 vs chuvalo had the stamina to throw over 100 punches and land 100 in ROUND 15.. Norton wasn't contesting with the speed of prime Ali //Ali cooper 2 go watch the speed//Ali vs Patterson 1 go watch the speed//Ali toy with earnie Terrell//Ali vs Williams..

[@joeschmoe9154]

He suffered some brutal knock outs . You can tell the last one with Cooney really scattered his chickens

[@pedritonegos4475]

Fly like a butterfly and sting like a bee

[@johndasilva2686]

Ken ( Hercules) Norton was a superb fighter who was fantastic once he got going. He was a true warrior. He was unlucky against Holmes.However against the big earthquake punchers, Foreman Cooney and Shavers he crumbled .

[@chukesobialo5706]

Alli thought he lost that last Norton fight .look at the way he was shoving everyone including punching Bundini Brown..

[@deanvoss7098]

Ali never beat Norton. ..ill watch it another 10 times.

[@hudaarifathul6950]

I watch it over 22 times I still say Ali won against Norton in 2 but in 3 it is draw

[@احمد-ف5ذ9م]

Larry Holmes fight much better than Ali Vs Norton, honestly Holm's was very outboxer than Ali for Shure, Norton is a legend

[@romienomie]

Ali was wayy older than Holmes was when he fought Norton. Ali was a better all around fighter when he was Holmes age. And don't forget that government -imposed layoff.

[@johngrimkowski598]

norton was past his prime with holmes if he was 5 yeats younger he would have beaten holmes

[@ottomarin4303]

Falta el video de la primera derrota de Ken Norton en 1970 ante el venezolano Jose Luis Garcia por Ko en Los Angeles

[@kikegjermysong2495]

Aja esa no la colocaron

[@Interceptor8v]

Adoravo KEN NORTON 🥊

[@jeffriessman9693]

I wish he fought a 1966 Ali. Ali was much better speed and reflexes.

[@johndasilva2686]

Good point. Muhammad Ali part one was unbeatable . A heavyweight floating gliding flying and stinging around the ring like a lightning welterweight. Ali also had a great chin and stamina.

[@johndasilva2686]

Ali part one was the best boxer pound for pound of all time. Imagine a heavyweight floating around the ring like a welterweight..

[@edwinmontano7367]

Mohammed aly stilist of the Boxing

[@6400az]

Don't forget 7-2-1970. KO'd by famed pugilistic powerhouse Jose Luis Garcia.......

[@texasrockshillcountry6574]

Norton won the third fight against Ali.

[@mustafaalbayrak1251]

No Norton un isabetli vuruşu yok kaç kere izledim

[@william16465]

Falto la pelea que perdio con el Venezolano Jose Luis Garcia por KO!

[@MrCrystalcranium]

The announcers doing Ali-Norton II should be ashamed of themselves. Ali through a 6 punch flurry in round 10 and missed EVERY punch and one of them screams out "NORTON'S STAGGERED!!!!" I grew up with Ali as champion and when he KOed Foreman in Zaire I thought he entered the pantheon of the all time greats but...when I look back at these fights...he got so much adulation from broadcasters, judges and his fans for doing little. His myth was so overwhelming judges would give him rounds for laying on the ropes for 2 1/2 minutes. Dunphy was always mesmerized by his myth. In Manila, Ali threw a similar 7-8 punch flurry and missed every one against a bobbing and weaving Frazier but Don yells into the microphone "A big rally by Ali!!" I wish the efforts of his opponents were judged and spoken of in a more fair and equitable way. Dunphy had Ali beating Frazier in a romp in the Thrilla while Muhammad was telling his second, Herbert Muhammad at the end of the 14th round..."Cut my gloves off...I can't fight anymore..." If his efforts, especially after his comeback in 1970, had been judged more fairly and on the merits of his effectiveness in the ring, many of his fights would have been much closer on the judges' cards and the fans' mind. You shouldn't be lauded for doing a little dance and flicking out light jabs but he was given many rounds with just that kind of showmanship with little substance.

[@stevecvino]

I can't agree with you more. Don Dunphy was horrible. In the first Ali/Frazier fight he kept saying how can Frazier take this kind of going over. Yeah Ali had his rounds but Joe wasn't just in there taking it he was dishing out a lot as well. The best thing about his announcing is when he wouldn't say anything for a minute or so a round.

[@frederickrapp5396]

I agree with you. Ali was never the same fighter after his 3 and 1/2 year exile from 1967-70. He arguably lost all 3 Norton fights, as well as Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young, Ernie Shavers, among others. Ali got the constant benefit of the doubt from announcers, judges, many fans, etc... I’m not sure why.

[@MrCrystalcranium]

@@frederickrapp5396 At that point, he was too big to fail...too much money to be made...Don King lording over it all etc.

[@MrCrystalcranium]

@umarb7325 How? He was a great champion but after Manila, he was winning with smoke and mirrors. The Spinks loss was so overwhelming, a decision in his favor would have been so much of a travesty, the sport would have lost all of its credibility.

[@johngrimkowski598]

Crystal I agree with you 100% I wanted to explain this for so long but you brought it into light. Most people don't realize how words can sway peoples opinions . Being a life long boxing fan I read many articles about the comments you wrote. (dirty trick and stealing rounds) You are sharper than most broad casters.

[@YerifanChow]

Norton send much clean shot to ali

[@livestreamsuk6004]

Foreman

[@tomfilus8043]

Norton had no trouble with boxers (I had him beating Ali three times) but sluggers gave him trouble. (Shavers, Cooney, Foreman). Joe Frazier would have knocked him out

[@carlodonn8983]

They were good friends and refused to fight.

[@enebenzer-p6t]

Frazier wasn't a big puncher like shavers cooney or foreman

[@carlodonn8983]

@@enebenzer-p6t he was s puncher, especially the left hook. I agree tho not in the level of shavers or forman. Coony also had extrodenery power Frazer v norton would had been very very interesting . They spared together alot apparently .

[@cptathensjohnclaba8705]

@@enebenzer-p6t yes he was His hook was devastating. Especially before and during the first Ali fight. Frazier would have KOed Norton

[@enebenzer-p6t]

Yes he had a good left hook. That was his only punch with crushing power. The others could hit you with any type of punch. Frazier doesn't have mostly early knockouts because most of his knockouts are because of his style

[@dbx1233]

What's up with 6:04 through 6:08? Is ali hitting his own coach?

[@carlodonn8983]

What about norton first loss??? It's not in here??

[@johngrimkowski598]

i cant find it

[@ЭдгарГольцов]

Самый неудобный соперник для Али. Ломавший ему челюсть и, по сути, дважды из трёх поединков , его побеждавших, правда в их последнем бое судьи отдали победу Али( видимо сыграл свою роль его авторитет)

[@mh2584]

Norton was a big heavy bag lost to all da greats got fame for the ALI fight that's it

[@felixalbertocubahechavarri2249]

Esa pelea entre Norton y Holmes debió ser tablas porque Norton le gano

[@mikem591]

He really fought the wrong fight against Shavers. He should have sticked and moved and then tied Shavers up. Get him tired and then wear him out until he got a TKO.

[@shadicalplayz8932]

19:03

[@mohammadmojaver5292]

Where is norton vs garcia1?norton knocked out in round 8 against jose luis garcia

[@reycesarcarino4653]

You don't have the ocasio fight

[@videoslevar]

falto la derrota que le dio garcia a norton en 1970

[@Inspiresa1]

in his first career Ali threw more ( still not many , but more ) body punches . I reckon he missed a bit of a trick against Norton by not doing so here , at least to keep ken off balance a bit more .

[@videoslevar]

Ando José Luis García Venezuela boxer?

[@denniscerasoli6209]

I thought Norton won that fight.

[@christophe4889]

Norton got 3 terrible Ko.

[@francosmo4750]

Norton won both of these fights with Ali..

[@chrisbennett6260]

are you nuts what utter nonsense

[@romienomie]

Wrong

[@seanoxborough5830]

He beat Ali twice and was robbed

[@chrisbennett6260]

stay of the crack

[@sthor5326]

I was there for Nortons first career loss to young, lanky Jose Luis Garcia. Garcia knocked him silly and looked like a future star. But Garcia gained weight and never reached his potential. Norton got his revenge five years later. Watching it on TV, it was obvious Garcia was a not the same fighter. Too bad there's no video of the first fight, as Olympic Auditorium management did a lousy job of record keeping, which also included pro wrestling.

[@Drago-tp3qb]

That's awesome, always wanted to see that KO.

[@sportshistorybuff319]

Was Norton ever in control of the first Garcia fight, or was he on the defensive throughout? Was there any luck involved or did Garcia clearly outsmart, outthink him?

[@johngrimkowski598]

@@sportshistorybuff319 talk to me I want to learn

[@mh2584]

Prime Holmes he beat tyson easily

[@Theearthtraveler]

Ali never clearly beat Norton.

[@edwinmontano7367]

It were good fight for that times used to be 15 round to win

[@pdm2201]

Ali never beat Norton. This one could have been a draw.

[@felixalbertocubahechavarri2249]

Que Bárbaro Ali

[@faridsadeghi5523]

Larry holmes copied exactly Ali style

[@videoslevar]

Garcia beat Norton in 1970

[@petertodorov1792]

Norton was so overated

[@miahiggins4266]

More like underappreciated, wdym overrated, no one talks about him these days and if anything he was underrated.

[@johndasilva2686]

Agree a fab boxer against boxer. However when he came across sluggers he was mr. Wobberly.

[@darrellmason5574]

At 5:05 wtf did he say? 😂

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Ken overrated never won the belt in the ring 1st defense he lost the belt & never won it bck

[@johndasilva2686]

Agree he was a fab boxer against boxer but was mr. Wobbly against the sluggers.

[@3rdStoneObliterum]

Norton won all 3 Ali fights and beat Holmes too.

[@cptathensjohnclaba8705]

Norton had a glass chin

[@johndasilva2686]

He was a fab boxer against boxers, but against sluggers he was mr.wobbly.

[@nyokonabii1951]

Norton got robbed in the second fight with ali.

[@carlodonn8983]

Second fight? Don't you mean third fight??

[@nyokonabii1951]

@@carlodonn8983 yeah. My bad.

[@romienomie]

The only fight Ali lost was the first one and that was by split decision

[@clarksikorski8030]

norton whipoed ali’s ass big time. he got robbed in all three fights especially the third. f ali

[@romienomie]

Norton admitted he lost the second fight The old saying you have to knock the champ out

[@hudaarifathul6950]

​@@romienomieAlso in the Third fight he didn't even beat Ali.. he just showing aggression and struggle to land cleanly on Ali

[@johndasilva2686]

As Angelo Dundee said ,,styles make fights. Yes against Ali, Norton was magnificent. However against the sluggers, Foreman Cooney and shavers he was mr. Wobbly