Cynic - Veil of Maya (Pianist continues his exploration of heavy metal)

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@robinfoster5293 Ай бұрын

RIP to the Seans - I remember coming upon this in the mid nineties and having to pick my jaw up off the floor! In all honesty, I still have to every time I listen to it 😂

@Pirates_of_the_Underground_I Ай бұрын

Have you watched the Tribute to Sean Reinert from Drumtalk? Its pretty amazing, especially when Gene "the Atomic Clock" Hoglan talks about joining Death and says; "I have to play THAT?". Its when I finally realized Sean reinvented Metal Drumming and for those to come. - Rest in Peace Reinert & Malone.

@crystalskunk3658 22 күн бұрын

Cynic - Focus is like One of the best things ever created

@Hyperlink1337 19 күн бұрын

what is that? half a reddit space? lord have mercy our children have fallen.

@Maz08 Ай бұрын

Loved this album when I first heard it. Let’s not forget, Paul and Sean collaborated with Chuck in Death for the Human album, which was friking mind blowing for the time.

@hazardeur Ай бұрын

still is.i have yet to hear someone play with the double bass that freely. apart from all the other stuff going on

@Dystopia1111 4 күн бұрын

I saw Death on the 'Human' tour (1990) with Paul Masvidal on guitar and Sean Reinert on drums . Pestilence (w/ Tony Choy on bass) was the opening band, best show I've ever seen.

@thecolouroutofspacee Ай бұрын

If you ever come back to Cynic - please play Judson “Evolutionary Sleeper” or “King of those who Know” Such beautiful songs!

@rmscrimea2322 Ай бұрын

agree 100 %

@Allan_Stone Ай бұрын

Lyrically, melodically, spiritually uplifting music, all of Cynic's albums are. Carbon Based Anatomy is my favorite after Traced In Air.

@leavingweakness9927 Ай бұрын

Every single song off Traced In Air is god tier level amazing. Personal favorite is ‘Integral Birth’

@leavingweakness9927 Ай бұрын

Their second album (Traced In Air) from when they reunited is a masterpiece.

@Loendt Ай бұрын

I love Prog/Tech Death Metal, and this is a gem of the subgenre. Amazing musicians!

@Tactical_Tourist Ай бұрын

One of my all-time favorite albums. The magic these four dudes created is still influencing metal.

@hazardeur Ай бұрын

three??

@Tactical_Tourist Ай бұрын

@@hazardeur Four, my bad. I always forget about Jason since it's primarily been Paul, Sean, and Sean.

@Yxag Ай бұрын

You could mention that both Paul and Sean are professionally trained jazz musicians. But yeah, when I listened to this album for the first time I also didn't get it because I was into straightforward death metal, but with time that stuff really grew in my eyes, insanely good music!

@crystalskunk3658 22 күн бұрын

Yeah the cynic lore goes pretty deep

@Mutterschwein 18 күн бұрын

Same. Traced in Air is more accessible and sounds more "modern." Definitely the best one to show people to if you're introducing people to Cynic rather than Focus.

@alekseinilychkirillov8230 Ай бұрын

Cynic is major words in music.

@tropiq Ай бұрын

RIP Sean and Sean, i greatly enjoy everything Cynic have done, even the Portal Tapes, there's something in there that transcends all the different genres they dabbled in over the years

@squallspike5667 Ай бұрын

I was lucky enough to see them live! what a talentend band! RIP Seans.

@thomascher4916 Ай бұрын

That intro was haunting. You two are gems.

@dasel1n Ай бұрын

YESSSS, thanks for reviewing this, its my fav album OAT, ghopefully theres more cynic to come

@marcmacbasa2019 12 күн бұрын

Hats off for the OG Deicide shirt and Cynic Focus...man that was my teen years!

@Pirates_of_the_Underground_I Ай бұрын

Been wanting to see you react to this! Was on one of my HUGE lists I posted a few months back. I've been referring to them as "The Mahavishnu Orchestra of Death Metal" at the time when it was their only full album release. Luckily they formed back together under popular demand. Was lucky enough to see them finally, and with Sean Reinert on Drums. He was such a joy to watch because he was so precise, and was usually "singing along" to the lyrics while being an octopus with power! 3 members of Cynic were on the Death "Human" album _before_ the release of Cynic's "Focus" album (they were known from their demos, which were MUCH heavier and more aggressive during that time). Sean Reinert on Human, basically re-invented Metal drumming and many followed suit. Note that when they debuted with Focus and went on Tour, Death Metal fans didn't know what to make of them. Some even booed! They were VERY ahead of their time in 1993. Watchtower (from Texas) would be anotherside of "Math Metal", not as Jazz/Fusion as Cynic but technical/complex with a falsetto vocalist singing melodically over the insane riffs and abrupt changes (like a later band from Norway; "Spiral Architect"). Alarum, Atheist, Fractal Universe, Twisted Into Form, Memento Waltz, Aghora, Linear Sphere, Zero Hour, To-Mera are other bands of the like to checkout. - Rest in Peace Reinert & Sean Malone. Sean died a year _after_ Neil Peart died, who was one of his big inspirations (and Vinnie Colaiuta).

@revocation3x Ай бұрын

Cynic is such a vibe, highly recommend Trace in Air, such a great comeback album

@MartinMaxFerdinand Ай бұрын

I have this feeling, that this band will turn up on Judson's Playlist somewhere. Cynic gets better, the more you listen to it ;)

@bymyenemy Ай бұрын

I think he’s ready for Defeated Sanity now

@mykodemgrzybodem Ай бұрын

This!!!

@daevyl Ай бұрын

The faces made by Judson in the first minute of the track tell it all about the quirkiness of Cynic. :-)

@pmtnoise5855 Ай бұрын

Excellent choice Cynic, each album is very interesting as they have been constantly evolving. Masvidal's guitar solo at 5:37 is mind-blowing.

@m00nkiid 17 күн бұрын

got to see this whole album played live last year

@petrilampela Ай бұрын

I remember hearing this when it came out and I didn't know what to think of it. I mean there were bands like Death and Atheist which I loved that combined death metal with jazz and prog but this was such an unique experience that it was only really appreciated years or decades later. Many progressive metal bands of today still draw from this.

@AgentBeans Ай бұрын

there's a track on the Roadrunner United compilation album that has Sean Malone playing with Mike Smith from Suffocation and Dani Filth singing called Dawn Of A Golden Age that absolutely crushes!!! Its such a crazy line -up but the song rules!

@OpiserJut Ай бұрын

Hello! My old Account is lost (Verkantill) but I´m still here guys! Instant like! Cynic is just pure art! Love it! Keep it up as always. Love You all!

@darrenmetal3338 Ай бұрын

I saw these fellas live back in the day. Sounded the same as on the album. amazing musicians. This whole album is a masterpiece....

@cbn6635 Ай бұрын

Legendary debut, years if not decades ahead of it's time. 👌 Chuck Schuldiner of Death hired Masvidal and Reinert to play with him on the 'Human' album on the strength of their earlier demos, so even mr. death metal himself was inspired by the Cynic guys.. their comeback album 'Traced in Air' is actually perhaps an even more impressive album; maybe not so groundbreaking as 'Focus', but the songwriting is arguably even more impressive; almost all the death metal elements are gone on 'Traced in Air', but the compositions are absolutely drop dead GORGEOUS! 👌 R.I.P. Sean Reinert & Sean Malone; one of the most awesome rhythm sections ever.. ☹️

@joshmorris9908 Ай бұрын

I remember hearing this in the 90s. Thought it was interesting. Happy thanksgiving guys

@abadaba2812 Ай бұрын

First time I bought Cynic's Focus was a pirate copy (as we were under sanctions), but later I bought it again original. When "Traced in Air" was to come out, they came to Belgrade and ofc I was there and we heard one of first live performances of _Evolutionary Sleeper_ (still on youTube). I love this band because I was fan of Death before.... I'm very sad about both Seans (drummer and bass), but I had pleasure to see them live.

@biorythmicshifter Ай бұрын

I first heard this in 93 and was instantly hooked. I seen them open for Cannibal Corpse on their first tour and was completely floored by the musicianship. I felt sad they never took off in popularity which led to the hiatus. This album has had a monumental influence on pretty much every band that focused (pun intended) on musicianship and experimentation. These guys were so far ahead of the curve.

@bumblefluff79 Ай бұрын

That was really cool and can't believe it was in '93! Was going to make a joke about it being derivative and should have been called Between the Mastodon and Me, but now I feel like a big silly. Colour me impressed. Ps. Was introduced to Everclear in '97 when they supported Feeder at Brixton Academy while touring the So Much For The Afterglow album. Not heard anything else of theirs but still love that album.

@lieuwesijtsma8677 Ай бұрын

Finally some death/jazz fusion. "Focus" is in the top 5 of all time for me. I wasn't shocked or surprised when first hearing it in '93. Death Metal then already had taken several paths and I absolutely loved it and still do. Atheist already paved the way a bit and other bands followed suit, like Cynic and Pestilence with "Testimony..." and "Spheres". Had hoped you mentioned that Paul and Sean both played on the influential "Human" album with Death

@NutOnYoutube Ай бұрын

I remember chatting to you about Cynic saying Judson would love them! Hopefully he does, keen to watch

@NutOnYoutube Ай бұрын

Evolutionary sleeper was my intro!

@devmaker11 Ай бұрын

What about a Song from Watchtower from the album Control and resistance 🤗

@Hurfdurflol Ай бұрын

With the recent Retromorphosis release you should definitely introduce Judson to Spawn of Possession.

@Nikita_Kash93 Ай бұрын

Shone Malone such great bass player!

@cblbopotka3915 Ай бұрын

please more Jazz/Fusion Metal like Exivious or Gordian Knot

@lorddolor00 Ай бұрын

That album is beautifull

@aldersmoke1 Ай бұрын

I might have already said this, but you guys need merch that says "Proceed Richard."

@markwillingham5343 Ай бұрын

I heard this when it came out , and yes I was into morbid Angel and obituary.Yes, we had atheist , but this shattered our understanding .Saw them live as well , and any thoughts you have about Cynic , I assure you they are better than you think .Focus , is still unbelievable

@PK--ITA Ай бұрын

Yes, good choice Richard, very good ❤❤❤

@robertpetre9378 Ай бұрын

Oh Yes, Cynic the Jazz death metal fusion band

@shadowwalker8793 Ай бұрын

Cynic! What a fantastic choice! Part of the "Holy Trinity" - Atheist, Cynic, Death. Doesn't get any better. :) By the way - how about some Asphyx sometime soon? "The rack", maybe? ;)

@ErikGrusko Ай бұрын

Next on the list should be Atheist and their 2nd album Unquestionable presence (1991), even crayzier and more insane technical death with jazzy elements. An Incarnations Dream would be my suggestion. Or maybe the song Mineral from their next album Elements.

@AXIDNT66 Ай бұрын

This was one of those albums that on first listen I was impressed and intrigued by, but it took me 2 or 3 listens before I had decided I really liked it. As Judson mentioned, the layers are important for it and really make it interesting and engaging to listen to. I also love the guitar solos on it, particularly the one in closing track "How Could I." I'm musically illiterate so I dunno what the term is but here are some little but dramatic jumps up in pitch in several of them that I like. Still not a fan of the vocoder stuff after all these years, but at this point it probably wouldn't feel right without it I guess. I also liked the follow up album Traced in Air a lot, but to be honest they kinda lost me with everything after that. Maybe I just didn't listen to it with the right mindset, but it felt like it lost those "layers" that made Focus and Traced so engaging, and was instead focused on being too dreamy atmospheric and "zen" and shit. Should probably give it some more chances though. It is funny to think about how this must have sounded to people back then. Even by today's standards it's pretty out there. Thankfully I got to see them live playing the good stuff twice, with Paul and Reinert backed up by Tymon and Robin from Exivious (another cool metal-y jazz-y fusion thing). If any metalheads are into jazzy stuff too, check out Gordian Knot. It was started by Sean Malone and featured other Cynic guys in Masvidal, Sean Reinert, and Jason Gobel, as well a bunch of other guys from things like Yes, King Crimson, Dream Theater, Genesis, Watchtower, etc. Very interesting lineup really.

@dimitriid Ай бұрын

I think Judson might like the Fretless Bass work of Forest LaPointe particularly on the last First Fragment record, though I do think their songs are still too overwhelming: Yes there's elements he'll probably pick up like relentless counterpoint but the speed and blast-beat-heavy drumming it's probably too much for someone not deeply into extreme metal. Still that's a Fretless bass player that mostly stays on top of the mix by using lots of tapping and higher fret register during half of the song and that's when not playing outright fretless solos and when he needs to punch it up, he plays slap *on* the fretless which you wouldn't think it works but it punches up the sound enough that it kinda does a bit.

@DallasGunther Ай бұрын

Aw man, here is a song from a record that was just a total paradigm shift when I heard it. I've listened countless times to this one. I don't anymore necessarily but that doesn't mean I won't. Death, Atheist, and Cynic were essential for me and my peeps, not to mention Morbid Angel, fuckin Deicide and Cannibal motherfuckin Corpse, Florida ain't all bad. That's for damn sure.

@gdgddavid Ай бұрын

Explore the new Opeth album please!, might be cool to see a summary of the whole thing because it's amazing

@mythosmetal Ай бұрын

wintersun - sons of winter and stars (sonic pump studios) please!

@s.e.gutierrez Ай бұрын

*Jazz hits* Judson: 🤨

@leszekmiler7474 Ай бұрын

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@robertpetre9378 Ай бұрын

There’s actually an American progressive Metalcore band called Veil of Maya interestingly enough maybe they are inspired by this song. 🎵

@Tactical_Tourist Ай бұрын

Yup. Paul is the only surviving member, unfortunately.

@cbn6635 Ай бұрын

Jason Goble is still alive too, fortunately..

@foggypaipa Ай бұрын

I was waiting for y’all to talk about his work in Death

@tumuli_shroomaroom Ай бұрын

One of my favorite albums of all time and one of my favorite album openers. You guys covered the new Blood Incantation which I loved but I'd also recommend you check out another death metal band called Tomb Mold. Their newest album, The Enduring Spirit, has some tracks you should definitely cover. Especially "Will of Whispers" and "The Enduring Spirit of Calamity."

@ranman1708 Ай бұрын

I saw Cynic on this tour open for Cannibal Corpse at the Spectrum in Montreal.

@thomascher4916 Ай бұрын

Boy I really thought you had that backwards. Veil of Maya is one of my favourite bands. 🤣 Shiw Judson some Veil of maya!

Ай бұрын

Finallyyyyyyy

@ZolFox 5 күн бұрын

That shit was crazy…as a “cynical metal fan” I’m pretty set in my ways and very selective about the bands I listen to, even though it spans across multiple genres, including non-metal stuff like from other lifetimes and personality constructs so to speak. Basically it’s rare for me to adopt something new into my catalog, but I may just do that…at least starting with the song anyway. So thank you for that. We should do a swap as it’s clearly time you showed Judson some Periphery. Maybe the song “Garden in the Bones” or “Ragnarok” or “Wildfire”. It’s time my friend…it’s time. In fact…’somewhere in tiiiiIIIIIIME’. Either you know (if you’re familiar with Periphery) or you’ll soon see (if you aren’t and you both hear for the first time…although I can’t imagine if you’re familiar with the band Veil of Maya that you don’t know them. So it’s a deal? 😏😋😵‍💫

@juksteri Ай бұрын

Sould try integral birth next time, i think it's the best song from cynic

@Brent92749 Ай бұрын

Show him “How Could I” next!

@xavi9bhgt556 27 күн бұрын

whenever i come back to these older albums i realize how badly recorded/produced they were. oh my...

@edmcbain71 Ай бұрын

Another excellent reaction. Would love to see you check out Tryptykon

@jordandwyer4075 Ай бұрын

Speaking of jazz fusion, I'd highly recommend checking out the band Exivious. They have some amazing tunes!

@Pirates_of_the_Underground_I Ай бұрын

The guitarist joined Cynic for their 2nd album.

@TheContortionist420 Ай бұрын

Oh damn, I had no idea! Thats awesome.@Pirates_of_the_Underground_I

@Pirates_of_the_Underground_I Ай бұрын

@@TheContortionist420 Yup, "Tymon Kruidenier" also has a band called "Our Oceans", hard to categorize, but a bit proggy.

@TheContortionist420 Ай бұрын

@Pirates_of_the_Underground_I Yeah, I have our oceans in my rotation. They have some pretty solid tunes for sure!

@curdledmayonnaise Ай бұрын

would you consider doing desecrator by exhorder?

@petryac9665 Ай бұрын

Along with Atheist and „Spheres” of the Pestilence that was voice of the future and absolute evidence of the unlimited imagination and the creativity of those extraordinary musicians

@sk8den1 Ай бұрын

MORE SLEEP TOKEN

@Brent92749 Ай бұрын

Finally!! Cynic!

@EZnevets Ай бұрын

At what stage do you do Deicide?

@EZnevets Ай бұрын

I'd recommend Homage for satan or Scars of the crucifix

@thetruth4654 Ай бұрын

React to Ulcerate and Deathspell Omega

@MrBVS74 28 күн бұрын

Funny that you said Veil of Maya the band is still around, they actually very recently announced an indefinite hiatus so they kind of aren't still around :(

@troysmithfr Ай бұрын

Cynic is one of those bands that you get something new on every listen. Day 20 of asking for Diablo Swing Orchestra.

@nunocarocinho6857 Ай бұрын

Hey, you lunatic of god´s creation! I need that shirt. send it to I.

@jovan9989 Ай бұрын

I like focus but their best has to be Traced in Air.

@edu_assis Ай бұрын

You guys need to listen to more bands that use the fretless bass in metal, like Obscura, First Fragment and Beyond Creation. I think they use it better than Cynic did.