Greenwood Roadway - What Could Have Been?

[@sergioloro]

it is great to know you enjoy this fantastic track!! it is the main goal here, preserve somehow motor racing history and enjoy it at the same time :) thank you

[@MosportRacingSchool]

Thank you - now the track lives on.

[@fatboyhilton]

Great sounding 289! Is that the sound that came with that car or dis you replace it?

[@Ikuconodule]

Thanks for the awesome track man. Beautiful work 👏

[@rolux4853]

All you tracks (and the two formula junior cars) are absolutely amazing and I bought them all! Do you by chance also have rfactor2 tracks? AC was my favorite SIM for a long time because of the great community and the amazing mods (the graphics also!), but since I got introduced to rfactor 2 a few weeks ago, I can’t look past other games physics.. The physics and the FFB of rfactor 2 are just amazing! So much better than anything I’ve experienced in every other sim racing title! I wish we could get the RF2 physics and FFB with the AC graphics! That would be the sim of my dreams! But if I could at least some of you’re great tracks in rfactor2, that would be an amazing first step in the right direction!

[@Pozer714]

NICE WORK!

[@MichaelRoma91]

I can tell how much effort you put into making your videos. You cornered a certain niche in the KZbin sim racing world that I love. There’s something so awesome when driving the older vintage race cars in assetto corsa. It’s such a raw experience.

[@dvtco.2545]

That was exciting. We were at Greenwood in 1963 and 1964. Long live Greenwood Roadway and thank you God for us living in Iowa during that time. Having a slot car track in the basement just kept the dream alive. Surprised the Factory Vette's (Black) weren't shown Thanks for this..

[@Phil_Kawana]

Sergio's tracks have never disappointed.

[@toastmantoasty]

I passed by this site many times when traveling to visit family. It's crazy how we could've had a premier racetrack in our backyard. This has to be one of the best videos on the topic I've seen.

[@theDriveGuy84]

I was already into sim racing, (mainly RBR RSF, and AC) when I came across your video highlighting the Richard Burns Rally RSF plug-in. You have a way of pulling the viewer in, and taking a history lesson, if you will, into Motorsport past. You have completely turned me into a Historic sim-racer, if there is such a thing. Along with RBR all I do is play Gran Prix Legends, Power & Glory (GTR2), Classic cars and tracks in ASM2, AC classic cars in mods as well as RFactor 2. I'm hooked! I realized I have a modern modest sim-rig, but mostly play older games. 😄Thanks for all of your content and helping us all relive a time in motorsports history when our parents were born/young. 80's baby here.

[@GPLaps]

best thing about a modern rig is it generally plays all the older sims flawlessly!

[@JURacing]

Another heartwarming GPLaps video. Not only you'd wish that you had done more laps. I love how you tell the story. The timing you have when talking is just great. Please keep them coming.

[@Alnilam1973]

Your content just keeps getting better, I'd love to see a championship with tracks like this, bridgrhamton, lime rock and their ilk, running sportscars through the decades.

[@CandlestickSec7]

My god, what a track. I had never heard of this place until Racing Circuits did a recent update and I am astounded at this circuit. It’s like Bridgehampton, Riverside and Kyalami all rolled into one. That it’s still there is even more astounding - someone has to save this place. It’s not well located but it’s no farther away from civilisation than the Glen or Laguna Seca is, and is actually pretty close to Des Moines. This is as good as any American track that has ever been built.

[@pan0sbeatss]

Racing back then at that level was just so raw. It wasn't televised u were on your own out there with a car that u had to Man handle for many laps. Better times ...

[@prreith]

Similar story and feel to Lynndale Farms Raceway, Peawaukee, WI. Only ran from 63-67. If memory serves they ran out of money but there was also considerable resistance from the neighbors as well. Attracted some big names there too. Is now a subdivision, utilizing much of the original course, with some abandoned sections in backyards, etc, with the abandoned stuff really getting tough to pick out in the more recent years.

[@sergioloro]

you just give to me another idea for America Pack 3 jaja

[@prreith]

@@sergioloro Outstanding! That would be surreal to see in race form. I'd love to offer more assistance but can't add anything beyond what's currently available online. The main historian of the track sadly passed several years ago.

[@cameron5802]

Havent seen your racing setup before, I love the authentic wheel.

[@poksnee]

I remember the track well. My cousin (John Marshall) was one of the owners. I loved going to races there for the short time it was operational.

[@andrewtsousis3130]

Fantastic video! Well scripted, narrated, shot and edited. Great story of a bygone track and era of racing.

[@bryandickerson5365]

That was SO great! Last time I watched you race I don’t think you had the awesome wheel and gated shifter. My gawd that looks like way too much fun! And once again, I been ejumicated - I’d never heard of Greenwood. Now I want to win the lottery so I can revive it!

[@rolux4853]

This is one of my absolute favorite tracks from Sergio! I didn’t knew anything about it, but it developed into the track that made me drive more proper and lead to me buying a good direct drive wheel!

[@dennisfriesen9105]

Excellent work as usual Jake,love the authentic wheel!! And Sergio,WOW,looking forward to this one.

[@comeausautomotiveradioshow]

Love these videos the story, the drama, the racing love these, keep doing these from a fellow Bostonian in Massachusetts

[@eduardogranja6418]

You make the most awesome entertaining historical racing videos!!! I have enjoyed everyone of them. Thanks so much

[@TheWilldrick]

Oh man I love these kind of episodes

[@thorstenwanoth6774]

'63 my birthyear, good one Du Preez. I will go looking for this one sometimes. Bridgehampton is still one of my faves on GT Legends

[@jeremybond8600]

G’day mate, just wanted to thank you for your videos, your content is second to none and has inspired me to get back to old school so thank you once again, p.s your back log is gunna take some time but loving it haha 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@JTeam45]

It's a hot midwestern day, you're at a track in the middle of nowhere surrounded by racing legends, and life is good.

[@ajrichar0]

Thank you for the racing AND the history lesson. I had no idea that this track existed, let alone proved inspiration for Gran Turismo's Deep Forest Raceway (I can only see it in parts). Sergio has done an extraordinary job. The snarl of that 289 Cobra gave me an eargasm.

[@TRD_Kyle]

My parents and extended family are from Iowa so I enjoy dogging on it for being a bit of a flat boring place as one living in the mountains of the west but I have to say that circuit looks amazing to drive with the rolling hills. What a shame that it never really had a chance to live a legacy like the other amazing circuits of the 60s. Going to have to download this and give it a drive myself.

[@stevehartke]

Beautiful track, wish it could get rejuvenated… looks like a blast to drive!! Thanks for posting!

[@Tom_Hadler]

Interesting video and to hear that it May have inspired Deep Forest. Looks like Greenwood is "Deep Forest Reverse" if anything. DF is probably my favourite from Gran Turismo, or was anyway. I've not played the softened up version from GT7. There is a bit in the forest where the camber changes very aggressively as the road turns, and it's utterly beautiful to behold a car moving through there. I did some cursory research and found Kazunori said he would choose DF if he could bring any GT track to life. Wouldn't it be great to get Greenwood up and running again. I feel like it could almost be crowdfunfed. Man I'd love to get the World Sportscar Championship up running again, with Targa Florio, Mille Miglia, Nordschleife, etc. I think there'd be a demand for it. Prototype and Grand Touring categories, old school circuits...& with actual Deep Forest Raceway. Amazing. It's good to dream...

[@SockyNoob]

I've been mapping out as many racing circuits across the US as possible over the past 5+ years off and on. It's exciting to see these tracks getting way more attention and being properly made in Assetto Corsa. I've been making rudimentary versions of abandoned or lost tracks in Bob's Track Builder and elevation data from making precise KML files, but many tracks already existed in rF1 as mods. I see that the creators of this mod are doing Marlboro (very excited to see this one as its tightness really makes BTB struggle and I never could quite make it work) and Vaca Valley (which kinda still exists, like Marlboro, but is in rough shape).

[@RacingWithChuck27]

Nice! Probably 3 yrs since I’ve fired up AC. The Can-Am cars are one of my favorites along with the 67 gpl cars

[@MosportRacingSchool]

Thanks for a great video, and this is an awesome track. I've been following racing since '71 and I've never heard of it, at least not that I can remember. It's a shame that it didn't flourish, but I can't say I'm surprised.

[@micksturdy]

wow these cars feel great thank you so much im having a sideways blast

[@memberman]

Thank you for the history and some great driving.

[@phillipbeharall6271]

Thank you Jake I've liked and subscribed found your channel watching Mike Simracing 604 simply talking thanks again from the uk

[@mediumsizedcal]

You're one of a kind, GPLaps. Beautiful storytelling, history and digital documentary making.

[@TinyTonyGOD]

What a video. Some great history and some great period correct racing.

[@JPKelly-xr7tr]

The perfect combination of history and sim racing.

[@liamwoodman4950]

That's an epic track. Nice flow.

[@darkfox2076]

Love the old syle wheel rim Jake it adds alot. Great racing buddy.

[@flare2000x]

What an epic track, thanks for sharing it with us

[@scullystie4389]

Jake you’ve really outdone yourself, bravo!

[@GrandPrixYannick]

Another great track and history lesson that deserves some limelight!

[@mueesli4745]

Especially great intro! And the track really looks awesome! Gave me some early Kyalami vibes, I will be giving it a try!

[@jinxed_jinxed_3443]

Perfect as usual, for anyone interested if you type "lap of the world Greenwood Roadway" into KZbin there's a very good 18 minute video all about this track, enjoy.

[@insanebase8883]

Great video. I just recently got AC after years in other sims after watching your videos. Got these and other Legends packs and am absolutely obsessed with these cars. The track looks amazing!

[@yhaustein38]

Jake, hats off once again for a great video. As a fellow racing history nut, I enjoy your content immensely, especially with all the background info that always make your videos little history lessons. Sergio certainly has a way to really make older tracks come alive with atmosphere, which is why I am happy to be working on a forgotten street circuit in my hometown of Brunswick, Germany with him. Seeing the track come life step by step is fascinating, and I can't wait to see (and drive, of course) the end result :)

[@whac1c]

Great video. Reminds me a little bit of Bridgehampton and Road America, but with a twist only the farmlands of Iowa could give it. Really hope we get more classic tracks soon. I'd kill for a Ontario Motor Speedway mod for AC, and maybe I might end up reaching out to a company that makes tracks to make it. It might be worth my time if it's within a fair price range.

[@GPLaps]

Would be great if it includes the GP circuit as well, then I can finally make a video on the Questor GP!

[@whac1c]

@@GPLaps That would be the plan for sure. No reason to go through the trouble of making the oval and neglecting the road course on the inside.

[@kevbarber]

These are the best sim racing videos on YT.

[@dancallahan4183]

That looks like an amazing track and only 25 miles south of Des Moines. It almost looks like a prime candidate if Penske every decided to expand Indy's reach

[@seaalon138]

Your videos are such a vibe, Jake

[@ArtIsExperience]

You're content always amazes. You've found the part of sim racing that is one of its key strengths - racing cars and tracks from a time long forgotten. What a blast to visit tracks like this in cars that most of will never see in real life, let alone race. Well done sir. Keep jumping in your time machine to tell stories of bygone days.

[@stanmarks3950]

That was thrilling.

[@VNWas]

I think this has to be Sergio's best creation yet and I look forward to the rest of the track pack. I've tried recreating a USRRC 1964-65 pack and have been having heaps of fun racing at Greenwood! Great video Jacob!

[@JLMrules]

I lived only an hour away and have even been to Indianola, and had no idea this existed.

[@simmadpaul2880]

Great video. Love to see you do a season with these types of cars. Sergio's tracks are fantastic.

[@Dilip122S]

Love the way you have a Cobra wheel there! :-)

[@lamesheepracing]

Great video.

[@Synystr7]

That was a nice first shot.

[@surfer101ist]

Love the content! Keep up the good work. Also, your voice is sooooooo soothing :D

[@AlanAttack]

Heavy Goodwood vibes

[@docslappy8946]

Nice track and video.

[@aarongreen121]

Another great video - it is crazy to see how relaxed your driving style is 😂

[@alexharkettsimracing]

I just love your videos mate. Keep them coming!

[@Lcngopher]

I remember seeing a video from lap of the world about this track last year

[@WookieDrives]

The fact that the track and layout still exists to this day, as well as its proximity to a city like Des Moines, it kind of gives me hope that someone will buy it and turn it into a country club a la Thermal, VIR, NJMP, Monticello.

[@celsus7979]

Excellent video!

[@OldRacingGames]

Sergio pumps out such good quality content. I have to try this!

[@jamesmchenry4708]

There's also a modernized (read: Tillkefied) version on RD, complete with flow-interrupting chicanes on the backstretch and final turn!

[@Villoresi]

Probably the 2 tracks I most associate with this one are Meadowdale and Augusta. As for newer tracks, I might suggest Ozarks, and I want to see how Flatrock pans out.

[@Laxkid97]

Nothing better then late night history

[@mostlymotiongraphics2134]

I started a racing tournament thing, 5v5 cars on ten vintage circuits against AI, and struggled to find a US track that I liked. Watkins Glen has slow AI off the bat, so I think this is going to replace that venue. It looks like a wonderful track to drive!

[@Aja-nt]

Have you tried Sergio's version of early Watkins Glen. It's a great track to race these cars around and the AI is fantastic.

[@mikegc3816]

Cobra - Favorite car since I was a kid after watching Gumball rally

[@erdemorselli7127]

awesome video as always👏

[@pnkrally]

Hey, that's my car!

[@truantray]

You can end up in the pond between turn 3 and 4. Don't ask me how I know. Great job by Sergio Loro. Wait until you try Marlboro.

[@leeday2265]

This is one of my favourite tracks on GTR2. It works well on there for any era. However, this looks very very different to the GTR2 version. I must give it a try!

[@808track]

Crazy that’s it’s used by heavy equipment operators… but the google maps shows the perfect layout of the track

[@andi36356]

Greenwood is sorta famous for being extremely close to Deep Forest (Reverse) from Gran Turismo, atleast as far as the track layout goes.

[@edwardburek1717]

Quite a beautiful circuit I must say. Perhaps an American HRRC could be on the cards sometime in the future?

[@The_Tigg]

A track that should have never died, I've been by were this was and never knew it was there.

[@richleineweber7279]

Wow what a great track this would of been to still have today. Has this guy made Meadowdale international raceway from Illinois? It's from same time period and suffered a similar fate unfortunately.

[@brakecheck5354]

Somehow I’ve never heard of this track, but it’s very much a ‘rollercoaster’ track like many of its contemporaries. Now I wonder if there is a similar version of Mid-America raceway out there?

[@c0neofsilence]

Southport 1954 track is out, you may want to wait for the league edition if you want to race there.

[@quentinchauviteau]

Another awesome track and video there ! How do you set the track for these 60s races on AC ? (like old, slow, fast,... presets for the grip level)

[@GPLaps]

Ive got a whole video on that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYamhGOqgploh8U

[@kornaros96]

You must take any car for a spin around Serres circuit.

[@simeracerhead3670]

Deep Forest!!!

[@eduardogranja6418]

How do you get the scoring board to appear on the right after passing the start/finish line? Love it

[@carlosjimenez8514]

He also had Mark Donohue in the blue Corvette

[@AlconburyBlues]

Didn't sound like he mentioned where Greenwood Roadway actually was, other than simply, America. Obviously American if the SCCA was involved. But it would have been a nice part of his presentation if he included exactly where it was located. Jake is a very good presenter, and usually includes some thoughts about the area the track was in. If I'm wrong, and I missed it, please don't be harsh. But I didn't hear anything, other than America. EDIT: After Googling it, found out it was near Des Moines, Iowa.

[@GPLaps]

It is in Iowa indeed, not far from Des Moines. I mentioned 'rural Iowa' Too bad its gone!

[@w0033944]

Admittedly, I'm British, but I'd never heard of this circuit!

[@soldadogameroficial]

Hey man, great video! Where did you get this leaderboard? Is it a mod or your addition?

[@rod2308]

What wheel /base set up are you using? I've gone to a DD1 from a CSL DD as i couldn't get enough torque in the corners. How are you finding the CSL DD ?? Love your videos and commentary . Your passion for and knowledge of the sport shines thru!!

[@GPLaps]

I have the CSL currently, non dd

[@bundy26]

That is a sweet track. It's there a version for rfactor 2?

[@SmithChan-qp3xh]

Which retro steering wheel do you use? Is it also suitable for modern sim racing games?

[@GPLaps]

Its a Fanatec base with the podium hub and then an aftermarket replica cobra wheel. It would work with anything Fanatec works with

[@SmithChan-qp3xh]

@@GPLaps I think this Ferrari 250 GTO Wheel Add-On from thrustmaster is also good

[@EndaMRacing]

Love the video but I just think the sim view it might be it's location but it would be better in the top left or right corner

[@shiftinlife]

Awesome! Did you alter the track's grip levels or leave it as standard?

[@GPLaps]

standard

[@watsonroadster3707]

I guess Meadowvale International Raceway would be another lost road course to produce???

[@danesorensen1775]

"The land has slowly been reclaimed by nature, with large cracks forming in the track surface and weeds and trees sprouting everywhere..." So it became Mirkwood Raceway? ... I'll see myself out.

[@carlosjimenez8514]

That 98 blue cobra Ken miles car Ken miles always drove the 98

[@joshuacrawford1255]

I’m not crazy about seeing your real wheel superimposed over where the sim wheel would be. For me it takes me out of the experience a little bit. But everything else awesome as usual!

[@eclipsegst9419]

As an Iowan my dream is one day to become successful enough or win the lottery, or both, and purchase and restore this track.