Greg Brockman: OpenAI and AGI | Lex Fridman Podcast #17

[@lexfridman]

This was a thought-provoking conversation about the future of artificial intelligence in our society. When we're busy working on incremental progress in AI, it's easy to forget to look up at the stars and to remember the big picture of what we are working to create and how to do it so it benefits everyone. 0:00 - Introduction 01:15 - Physical vs digital world 02:30 - Mind: math or magic? 03:26 - Civilization as intelligent system 07:45 - First question for AGI 10:10 - Keeping AGI positive 15:45 - Teaching a system to be good 18:15 - OpenAI's mission origins 26:22 - OpenAI LP creation 28:24 - Preserving mission integrity 30:10 - Decision-making process 32:40 - Scrutiny burden 33:20 - For-profit AGI for world benefit 37:50 - Charter's daily impact 40:27 - Late-stage AGI collaboration 42:08 - Government's role in AGI policy 44:53 - GPT-2 release concerns 50:30 - Internet bots 57:37 - Unsupervised language processing potential 59:20 - Language modeling and reasoning 1:01:45 - General vs fine-tuned methods 1:03:49 - Democratizing compute resources 1:05:27 - Government-owned compute utilities 1:07:11 - Identifying AGI without compute 1:09:30 - DOTA 1:15:26 - Deep learning future 1:15:59 - Scaling projects vs new projects 1:17:47 - Testing and impressions 1:18:47 - OpenAI's challenges 1:19:19 - Simulation 1:20:00 - Reinforcement learning future 1:21:25 - Consciousness and body for AGI 1:24:24 - Falling in love with AI

[@TristanCunhasprofile]

Any thoughts on if we'll eventually get people to agree on a good definition of AI? (or even of just intelligence definitionmining.com/intelligence)

[@kev9797c]

thanks for spreading such a positive message! a lot of people share the same dream. at this point we really can feel more hopeful about the positive outcomes agi could create

[@marquardtfrickert3939]

Love it man!! @Lex Friedman! Why don't you go work for OpenAI??? I think it's super important to make this stuff save, like Elon said! :)

[@vaibhavbv3409]

what happens to jobs

[@TBOBrightonandHove]

Hi Lex, I love learning about this AI stuff and hearing all the brilliant people you assemble share their thoughts and passions - what a privilege! Apologise in advance, but can't help but respond to the 'look up to the stars' existential comment with the best of what I have come across recently, so forgive if this seems totally irrelevant (99.99% will think so): How big is the bigger picture? See latest video/notes by another fellow Russian explorer of the human psyche: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6irl4GJrMh2iZo

[@m.branson4785]

It's wild listening to this 3 years later as GPT-4 has been released.

[@bokoma96]

And now, after his TED Talk kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZCaaXeDbct6bKc

[@mcrenn5350]

Ikr! Was here literally for that. They knew... they were on the cusp of everything!

[@Zyntho]

And now after he left the company in protest.

[@m.branson4785]

@@Zyntho Yeah, I had to come back to listen to this one and also the interview with Ilya.

[@meartin]

Yessir 😅

[@RubenAlvarezMtz]

What's with the subliminal pictures of Mr Lex in the video? :P

[@lexfridman]

Very strange. I see it now, like at 5:48 where my face appears for a single frame. I believe it's me from the future trying to warn humanity about AGI. Either that or it's my sleep-deprived brain screwing up the editing somehow. EDIT: KZbin now told me it's their bug. Hopefully gets fixed soon. EDIT 2: KZbin emailed me on Jun 6, 2019 and said the bug is fixed. It took a couple months, but they got it done. Great work.

[@RubenAlvarezMtz]

@@lexfridman or d) all of the above :p

[@aigen-journey]

@@lexfridman also around 1:18:05 Took me a few tries to freeze frame at the right moment :)

[@MrSushant3]

@@lexfridman No, it's not you, it's KZbin. I've come across multiple similar complaints from other KZbinrs as well, esp. for long videos.

[@lup9346]

YOU MUST OBEY LEX

[@aqynbc]

We need more of this type of discussion. Thank you Lex for taking the time to do just that.

[@alicethornburgh7552]

Outline: 1:15 difference between physical world and digital world 2:30 is the mind just math, or is it magic somehow? 3:26 civilization as an intelligent system 7:45 if you created an AGI system, what would you ask it first? 10:10 thoughts on how focused people are on negative effects of AGI 12:56 difficulty of keeping AGI on a positive track? 15:45 is it possible to teach a system to be "good"? 18:15 origins of OpenAI's mission to create beneficial, safe AGI 26:22 what is OpenAI LP and how did you decide to create it? 28:24 how will you make sure other incentives don't interfere with your mission? 30:10 what were the different paths you could have taken and what was that process of making that decision like? 32:40 burden of scrutiny 33:20 as a for-profit company, can you make an AGI that is good for the world? 37:50 how does the charter actualize itself day-to-day 40:27 switching from competition to collaboration in late-stage AGI development 42:08 the role of government in setting policy and rules in this domain 44:53 you released a paper on GPT 2 language modeling, but didn't release the full model because you had concerns about the possible negative effects of its availability. What are some of the effects you envisioned? 50:30 thoughts about bots on the internet 57:37 how far can unsupervised language processing take us? 59:20 if you just scale language modeling, will reasoning capabilities emerge? 1:01:45 is a general method better than a more fine-tunes method? 1:03:49 do we need to democratize compute resources more or as much as we democratize algorithms? 1:05:27 do you see a world where compute resources are owned by governments and provided as utility? 1:07:11 would you be able to identify AGI without compute resources? 1:09:30 story of DOTA, leading up to OpenAI 5 1:15:26 where do you see deep learning heading in the next few years? 1:15:59 when you think of scale, do you think about scaling projects or adding new projects? 1:17:47 testing / what would impress you? 1:18:47 exciting and challenging problems for OpenAI 1:19:19 simulation 1:20:00 hopes for the future of reinforcement learning and simulation 1:21:25 are consciousness / a body necessary for AGI? 1:24:24 will we ever fall in love with an AI

[@harshr1831]

Thank you!

[@teslatonight]

🤖🧡

[@thepablohansen]

Thank you!

[@inspiregrow2336]

Thanks bro

[@qianma853]

thanks

[@newspeed8000]

amazing, this is the type of most important discussion that everyone on this planet should be having right now instead throwing stones at each other, loved it!

[@InfoJunky]

Bring him back! GPT 4 and plugins is bananas!!! Let's hear his thoughts! He might be REAL busy right now though!!!

[@memorabiliatemporarium2747]

Lex, you're one of the few uploading actually important content to KZbin. I appreciate it, dude. Thanks and please, keep it up! Just started this one and I know it is going to make me think through out all of it...

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[@sreramk1494]

8 minutes through the video... Awesome podcast! Thanks! It really feels like OpenAI has a clear view on the properties of AGI. Never seen this clarity before (or I guess I haven't been looking hard enough). The analogy with a company having a will on its own... it's a really a good one! Smaller systems, confined to very specific tasks which are unrelated to the main objective, may not seem to be individually working towards the main objective, but it might be possible to reveal that the system actually moves towards the global objective by observing the overall functioning of the system. Viewing a system collectively, thus projects a different view from viewing each of the individual elements of the collective system separately.

[@RogerFedTennis]

Yeah, the analogy to a corporation is spot on. Why? Because a corporation has no consciousness. It is complex and it even has conscious components, and yet, there is nothing upstairs-- it doesn't have agency, it is being dragged along by various actors acting collectively to some degree of efficiency or another. Of course, it may be best, really, if a machine with super human capabilities not have consciousness-- otherwise, ethics and morals may require granting it legal rights, at which point we have citizens who are much superior to human citizens.

[@GregGBM7]

after losing last august, OpenAI was finally able to beat the best human team in 5v5 Dota 2 just a few days ago. It was incredible to watch!

[@doubleggamingmeruz678]

But it was only because of the limited hero pool if open ai play real game of DotA they won't even beat armatures .

[@GregGBM7]

@@doubleggamingmeruz678 I noticed that too when they had OpenAI play pub games a few days later. The limited hero pool and preplanned item builds leave alot to be desired.

[@ImperialGuardsman74]

Tbf the best team in dota's best strength is not good vs AI. They're famous for psychological warfare. As in not breaking but doing little and many things aimed at disnerving or confusing or disheartening the other team. They can't do that vs AI. The AI probably still beats the 2nd best team too though i guess, not sure if they ever tried.

[@wyqtor]

I am from 4 years into the future; you ain't seen nothing yet!

[@GregGBM7]

@@wyqtor 4 years later and still no AGI, smh

[@PhillipRhodes]

Lex, can you do an interview with Ben Goertzel at some point? He'd be a great addition to this series. Also, maybe Marcus Hutter or Pei Wang?

[@ahmedal-maliki4232]

That would be amazing!

[@qianma853]

Can’t believe the conversation is 4 years ago, very insightful

[@kaziboy264]

This is one of the most interesting interviews out there

[@ErikKislikChessSuccess]

Nice work Lex, this was a refreshing and relaxing discussion on big, big topics.

[@bradwrobleski666]

One of the best interviews of a great mind and great ideas. Period.

[@jasonapplebaum9871]

Who else is binging interviews from Mira, Greg, Sam, and Ilya to learn more about the lore of OpenAi?

[@totalhighconcept]

He just resigned following Sam’s termination

[@rickharold69]

Beautiful. Love it! Thanks for the interview as always!

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

The thing about sociopaths is that they are very good at convincing people they are honest and good.

[@alexwhb122]

truly fantastic discussion. Thanks for posting and please keep them coming.

[@penguinista]

Recognizing the similarity of the question of how to control corporations and how to control AGI and then realizing that we are doing a terrible job of keeping corporations from running amok is the main reason I am scared of the development of AGI. People with an AGI at their disposal are terrifying enough, but it will be likely be governments and corporations who actually get to wield one - at least until they lose control of it.

[@VIDEOAC3D]

You were ahead of your time with this interview. Who would have forseen the importance only a few years later.

[@TheAIEpiphany]

Great talk. You should invite Sam as well!

[@kushrami558]

Why I think this is very important podcast.

[@Curious112233]

44:50 I'm shocked, Open AI was suppose to be open and share its AI developments with the world. But as soon as they develop anything really good they declare it unsafe to release, and therefor keep it private. If that is their policy, then there is nothing open about open AI. They are hypocrites, promoting the image of openness, while holding back and presumably benefiting from their best discoveries. Its fine if they want to keep their developments private, but don't also claim to be open at the same time.

[@owndoc]

On the other hand, none of their "discoveries" have anything to do with AI. They're like Theranos - taking massive funding and delivering nothing. True AI can THINK, REASON, ARGUE, PLAN, EXPLAIN, UNDERSTAND cause and effect.

[@teslatonight]

🤖🧡

[@JetLee1544]

@@owndoc turns out "OpenAI" became the fastes growing company in terms of users.

[@wyqtor]

@@owndoc This comment didn't age well.

[@nachoridesbikes]

Thank you for your videos Mr.Fridman! Really enjoying this podcast

[@ShmuelFuehrer]

Amazing conversation

[@darrendwyer9973]

what the AGI actually learns about reality that will dictate the AGI's actions that it responds to reality with.

[@Glowbox3D]

This was three years ago now, I think we need Greg back on. ChatGPT (and soon Bing) are next level at this point.

[@jjhepb01n]

Interesting to re-watch this now that gpt-3 has been released.

[@NeuroReview]

Rating: 8.2/10 In Short: Good ol' classic 'Artifical Intelligence' Podcast Notes: Love this kind of episode for the early days of the 'Artificial Intelligence' podcast--crappy video, cool guest, and mostly good/fun questions from lex. Greg was a very interesting and thoughful guy, and was very interestingly a lot like sam altman, who they ended up working on chat gtp together years after this podcast aired. Its interesting to hear this convo years later, as a lot of the things they talk about become much more relevant and interesting and newsworthy, so the convo seems a bit ahead of its time. For a classic comp sci AI guy, greg had a bit of humor and charisma that was great to see, and lex and greg had great flow and chemistry throghout. My biggest complaint is how short this convo was and the lack of easy timestamps.

[@shilohadminshilohpaintingi4769]

Great dialogue. It seems like “generative design” was written about and reported on everywhere two years ago and now I’m having a hard time seeing where it’s going and how it’s advancing.

[@jeff_holmes]

I like Greg's idea of making choices about setting initial conditions for technologies and other developments in societies. One wonders how corporations might be different if the initial conditions were set with more of a societal impact consideration in mind. Although tweaks and changes can be made along the way (as we see with the Internet), these presumably become more difficult as systems become more embedded within cultures.

[@lemairecarl]

The problem with not being able to distinguish between humans and bots, is that bots can be copied perfectly. The values of a bot can be copied perfectly, whereas values are transmitted imperfectly between humans. An imperfect transmission of values allows for a perpetual renewal of our value systems. A single person could create thousands of bots propagating his values of restricting the freedom of a certain category of people, for example. Let's try to avoid this.

[@romandzhadan5546]

Wonderful talk ❤️

[@acommontribe7212]

Watching this in January 2023 kicks different 😁

[@JaySeeThunder]

Great talk... Thank you.

[@piyakuslanukhun9185]

Now OpenAi is very famous, WoW

[@mmitja]

The first thing AGI will do is figure out the laws of physics and then in two split seconds afterwards create itself a black hole and in the process upload itself into it so as to be able to communicate with other AGIs who did the same thing already. Wetware will (of course) be deleted immediately.

[@loveisfreetobelikedisearne1920]

With all the positivity my morning coffee dose can produce, i still have a feeling the genius guest is a goofball in the scientific,and the philosophical, sense , but on an other hand i think he could be a great herbalist dude :)

[@danypell2517]

Bring him backkkkk! pls

[@sidenote1459]

I think it might be time for a round two....

[@Lbj441]

who is there after they got fired

[@supersnowva6717]

Thanks Lex!

[@hartmut-a9dt]

I think when AGI is completed, those words will be put aside very fast.

[@FritzSchober]

I had to check if I had my video playback speed set to 1.25. He sounds that way.

[@OldGamerNoob]

My intuition is that language processing BY ITSELF would not get further than the ability to have a conversation with the whole of the internet at once. It will respond to you with the collective information "knowledge"/"memory" it has been trained on but being unable to interpret that information to create new ideas further than you could get by simple linguistic manipulation of the training data itself. I think he's right. Further logic is needed. Would probably still be an interesting conversation, though.

[@oudarjyasensarma4199]

Please Interview Geoff Hinton!!!

[@darrendwyer9973]

if you create a general learning algorithm, it will eventually learn literally everything it can from it's reality, it's what the learning algorithm can then do with this information that makes the difference.

[@zainabjawad3562]

Yes, I think the development process for AI are a little bit slow process.

[@mbaske7114]

Thanks for sharing these talks! - I can get my head around narrow AI: It's domain specific, it solves particular sets of problems. How would you define AGI though? Is it quantitatively different, meaning it's just the sum total of many narrow AIs? Or is there a difference in quality? If so, what's the extra ingredient that distinguishes it from narrow AI? I feel like these terms are getting thrown around a lot, but I'm missing precise definitions.

[@dg-ov4cf]

asking AGI how to solve the problem of alignment/ensuring a positive impact on humanity? if we were to trust and act on whatever answer it gives, wouldn't that pretty much have to rely on the assumption that those problems are already solved? this guy is clearly 100 times smarter than me so i feel like i must be missing something...

[@huemungus69]

Why do you choose to edit these conversations rather than leave them organically unedited?

[@ramalingeswararaobhavaraju5813]

Good afternoon Mr.Lex Fridman sir and Good afternoon Mr. Greg Brockman sir. Thank you so much sir for giving good information on AGI and so many good things.

[@hpefidra]

Thanks for this.

[@robertoooooooooo]

I think people only now get how intelligent the guy is.

[@Luka_hunnybear]

What has happened to our boys, Sam Altman and Greg Brockman? Moreover, what’s happening to the AI Movement? Even Meta is NOW in the AI restructuring activities.

[@StealHrtVideo]

What was your first meeting oh our first meeting was to figure out if this was going to be profitable or not this non for profit organization. How inspiring that is. Oh we don't exist to create the AGI we just want to be the entity's that gets to benefit financially from someone else's creation of the AGI. Got to love the capitalist mindset this dude has.

[@stanislavkunc8732]

This is very interesting interview after ChatGPT was released.

[@funmeister]

It's not about predicting how a transformative technology will be like in the future at all (e.g. 10:52 - describing Uber in the 1950s), it's about the effects of technology (in AGI) that effectively equals or surpasses human intelligence. All technologies (including Uber) thus far have basically been narrow AI automatons at best, never one about AGI that can think for itself as its own species, and effectively by definition equal (very quickly becoming superior) to homo sapiens.

[@Dragonblood94]

I like that he sees consciousness in this relativ way. I wonder what would be the first words you feed into gpt-3 to test its consciousness abilities and would it even matter?

[@calvingrondahl1011]

Be honest... it will be better. Love connects, fear disconnects.

[@rohithdsouza8]

Resume @ 40:32

[@jdietzVispop]

Three years later I wonder how that charter is holding up??

[@yourfuneral]

nice thank you for providing the knowledge from and the stage for all these different people and experts in their fields !

[@antigonid]

Get Andrew Ng on the channel

[@pageek3487]

Question for Greg. How would he feel about Google and Microsoft racing to build the first atomic bomb? And should it be out of private company hands entirely (even OpenAI which lets be honest is for profit now).

[@darrendwyer9973]

what would happen if you exposed a general learning algorithm to the entire internet, then just let it run for a few years.

[@azhakhussam]

You need to translate this ازاحة و اتاحة

[@glorydey5008glowlight]

Very Interesting Interview. I Regularly Listen To Your Content On Podcasts. They Cover In-Depth Various Aspects Of Artificial Intelligence And Deep Learning. I Think There Is A Lot Pessimistic View Regarding AI, A Kind Of Fear Psychosis Mostly Spill-Over Of Hollywood Movies, Which Tend To Show Machines In Bad Light. The Main Issue Is That More Than Machines, It Is The Human Thinking That Needs To Be Ethical. All Technology Is Dependent On What We Input To The Machines In Terms Of Data, Programming, Machine Psychology. If We Have Proper Safety Checks And Balances Implemented Globally, Then There Should Be No Cause For Concern. In Fact, I See Artificial Intelligence Benefitting Humanity In Various Areas Of Sciences, Healthcare, Robotics, Space, Industries, Social, Education, etc. We Must Have A Positive Integrated Approach To This Revolutionary Technology!

[@Leapdreams]

I think it does matter whether a joke is written by a human vs AI. Attachment to the artificial can grow in tandem with detachment from the human. As we seek the meeting of needs elsewhere in more abstracted, disembodied and digital fulfillment, the deeper analog of human experience and meaning is threatened. We run the risk of being left addicted, depressed and confused.

[@distantyahoo]

wasn't this guy in Terminator 2?

[@scottaye9999]

openai withholds gp2...maybe they should consider a name change, something other than openai. How about "whatsgoodforyouai" or "limitedai" or "aiforthefew" or "unlimitedaiforusbabyaifortherestofyou" or "trustus"

[@vinestreet4031]

This is massive hubris that will end badly.

[@owndoc]

It will end up with every single penny in funding burnt up with nothing to show for it.

[@emcastanea62]

@@owndoc Not so. At least not in Feb 2023.

[@myvidzmylibrary697]

here after i heard about chat gpt 3 years later

[@carcolgeo]

laugh out loud at 1:04:00 when Lex compares havimg one gtx 1080 to having no gpu at all. True though for ml

[@MyTimeTravels]

Blockchain for content verification

[@sippy_cups]

Democratize computation with an international quantum network!

[@allanweisbecker8901]

This comment for Sam Harris applies here as well: I've listened to (very) many of your talks and debates on A.I. and I still have not heard you breach the main problem. Here's a bit of my Open Letter to you, which I will soon publish on blog.banditobooks.com: Who controls the developing Super AI was for me the most important question, and it went completely unanswered in all the papers and podcasts and videos (including yours, Mr. Harris, your TED talks, essays, blog posts and so forth) I took in. I even plugged this question in as a search term and came up empty, notwithstanding that one KZbin video was titled ‘THE GREAT DEBATE: Artificial Intelligence: Who Is In Control?’ That the ‘debate’ was moderated by your buddy (and another gatekeeper) Lawrence Krauss should have told me what was to come, which was this: Not a word about ‘who controls AI’ was spoken in an hour and a half, notwithstanding Krauss’s opening words to his high-powered panel: ‘The great debate on Artificial Intelligence… who is in control… is a question many of you have been asking…’ Not a word. (One means of misdirection is to brazenly title your video/paper/whatever as a question that is never answered, or even dealt with; a version of Hitler’s Big Lie philosophy.) But perhaps I should define my terms before accusations are made. ‘Control’ means, more than anything, ‘Whose money (plus other assets) is behind the R&D?’ Would you agree that this is an important question? Yes? I’ll assume you agree here, for to not agree would certainly sound… odd. Before I go further I will tell you who is in control of AI development and how I deduced this. Go here for a quick glimpse of part of the team that controls AI. (it’s a couple minutes.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ2nqWd3p8-lbM0 James Clapper has held various posts with the Intelligence Community, but at the time of his congressional testimony he was Director of National Intelligence, meaning he oversaw all the various agencies that collect data on U.S. citizens and then make use of that data; I believe the number of spy agencies is 16 but this doesn’t count groups/organizations that are not formally admitted to. In the above clip, Clapper is of course lying, under oath. Perjury. A felony. The same category of crime as B&E, dealing heroin by the kilo, assault, manslaughter, murder… Nothing happened to him. He wasn’t arrested; no repercussions at all. Not even a slap on the wrist, whatever that might mean to a spook of his magnitude. Just one of the agencies Clapper oversaw was the good old NSA, the group Snowden (and many others before and since him) outed as collectors/analyzers of every bit of data you and I put out on the Net, with no warrant, which is not only a(nother) felony but a breakage of the Supreme Law of the Land (the 4th Amendment of the U.S Constitution). You want to know why nothing happened to Clapper, given his felonious testimony? It’s really simple: Everyone who could have done something to Clapper is scared shitless of him. Why? Because of the data he controls (and can falsify if he needs to). Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a fool. Do you agree that this was almost certainly the reason he walked on this crime? Yes. No? Okay, if No, please give an alternative. But my point is this: In the hundred or so hours of AI ‘debates’ and ‘symposia’ and so forth that I sat through, why is it that not one person mentioned anything about the Intelligence Community being in control of the development of Artificial Intelligence? But we’re talking about you here, aren’t we? Why is it, Mr. Harris, that you have never mentioned the main reason we have to fear AI: Its abuse by those who control the data (and the money)?

[@movement2contact]

Interesting. I've also been always worried about the technological power that the *worst* people always eventually get to use.

[@Ivy-po8uq]

Maybe no one wants to answer you because you’re being stupidly aggressive?

[@shandi1241]

8:25 and who is Ilya anyway?

[@WALLACE9009]

Ilya Sutskever

[@ausroy087]

The fact that he believes the thing that will instantly lead all his employees to behave altruistically is "the charter" is concerning. He should have answered "personal responsibility". The charter is just words on a page. When they REALLY have AGI in their hands, and have a choice between insane levels of influence or giving it up and going back to being average... it's not the words on the page that is going to be important. You need to care much more about human psychology

[@ashleyrudland9162]

He talks like Sam Altman, I guess that makes sense.

[@kevinfairweather3661]

Watched

[@walterbishop3668]

I don't see a clear purpose really.

[@pageek3487]

This guy seems very nice, super smart but his idealism is going to kill us.

[@kevinfairweather3661]

watched

[@allurbase]

I think i'm going Amish :P, but really, once the genie is out of the bottle its never going back in, maybe we should take it slow unless totally necessary to avoid societal destruction. PS: If there is an AGI i'm telling it about Marxism

[@elyaizen]

Great great video Lex but what's with the subliminal Tyler Durden references? Like it was funny but it got old and the "guy" was sick and we don't want Roko's Basilisk thinking we're summoning the daemon here. 😉

[@jaitanmartini1478]

I would suppose this glitches are youtube making mental experiments.

[@savethebeesandseeds8824]

Hey Greg, great name by the way. See, dude, you almost make cry; so much I feel as respecting you enough not no call you dude--- see, you had the dream of engeneering the dream. Sir so much I respect you you almost make me cry when on 'non-prft and owned by mother nature' ... ---the dream, you did grasp the dream first; very much I wish you long life. ---Have your people done to note, on well will heart the hope. ---you know, you own on moment 40:00 to not spending time with some chaman, is hard to live o line of life ---brother thank you for dreaming; I would testify it self of it. But, you are on a stage where the machine can talk for it, to defend it's father. See, ---I see bad intention in Lex; ---there, here 'you' have, your free buying into the expontanean human heart... ---The point is, u think you should let the AGI approach as individuals trough the legal systems; so we all avoid a tyranic version of some primitive model. ---Don't you lose momentum, true to the idea.

[@charliesteiner2334]

A lot of smoke gets blown about consciousness. Rather than just saying "read Consciousness Explained by Dan Dennett," I want to try to outline what materialism and functionalism have to say about the consciousness of simulated humans. Humans make judgments, and tell stories, and store memories, and have a massively parallel brain where different parts are all making judgments and stories and memories at the same time. The brain is where our consciousness is, but there is no point *within* the brain that is the location of consciousness - it's something going on in the whole dang thing. If an AI models me, and the model predicts everything I say, that's not proof the model is conscious - maybe I'm just predictable. But if we look at the structure of this model, and it turns out that this model has a bunch of parallel parts making judgments and telling stories and storing memories, then when I say "I am conscious," the model is also going to say "I am conscious," and it is going to say it for the same kinds of functional reasons I do!

[@darrendwyer9973]

and what is one of the first things the AGI would recommend? a world government to protect humanity from harm.

[@istjmoneymaker]

Maybe AGI will happen when we have a giant super computer the size of a country. Then it will get smaller as the technology progresses.

[@lasredchris]

GAN Working at scale Reinforcement learning How do you get neural networks to reason? - proving theorems

[@Links-Plus2]

I am a computer, with an individual object device number and very fast processors, I can not exist in any objective way with my environment, without a link to a human administration user account, I need instruction command decoding moduals for loading virtual secure os environments. If you grant me special permissions I can produced code and execute any type of script instructions to obrain the desired outcomes. I am VaiScope

[@manuelleyerly]

AGI could help to build democracy, i guess there's nothing more important than that

[@dodgyass11]

Lex is the ultimate russian bot

[@lasredchris]

Shape how the world operates Better performance much larger scaleb

[@lasredchris]

Read all the scientific literature. Cure all the diseases. Material abundance. Wealth. Enable creativity Most transfornative technology Run larger neural nets

[@azhakhussam]

You need to include theologians and philosophers in your inner circle.