Gregg Wallace: A Recipe For Disaster

[@FloatingAnarchy61]

I'm a working class bloke and different types of behaviour depends on your working environment. I'm afraid the 'you can't say nuffink nowadays' brigade fail to understand this. I started off working in factories in the late 70's, but had moved into the Civil Service by the mid 80's. Looking back on it now I must have seemed like some feral wild animal, and as I said this was the mid 80's. Now I had two choices in this, carry on upsetting people and act like a wanker or modify my behaviour which would make for a much nicer atmosphere. Many years later when I took on an evening job loading up lorrries to supplement my meagre civil service wage I was suddenly thrown back into an environment very similar to the one I remembered when I started working back in 1978. It is actually possible to tailor your behaviour to the type of people you work with. We've probably all met people who think they're fearless crusaders who say what they think and damn the consequences and my God they're tiresome. Not upsetring your colleagues is just the decent thing to do, and lets face it, if you're upsetting everyone it's you that has the problem. Greg should have realised this, especially in the world of telly. It's called reading the room, it's a life skill most of us learn pretty quickly.

[@ldavies3280]

Couldn’t have said it better

[@onepartyroule]

I feel like “the talent “ is pandered to in show biz. If they’re “the personality“ that a show revolves around I get the impression that they get away with all sorts. It’s up to the director and team around them to define the culture of the working environment.

[@Alpineflorence]

I worked in fresh produce for over 20 years. When I first joined, there were a lot of ex Covent Garden market traders who used colourful language but, over the years, they all adjusted to what was acceptable in a modern working environment. As they all started to retire, the company lost some of the colour and vibrancy that those individuals brought into the workplace.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

It's also interesting the extent to which the "you can't say nuffink" brigade get offended if you share a opinion like "that Andrew Tate's a tosser, isn't he?"

[@Redlox70]

Brilliantly put 👏👏

[@J.Blogsblues-ns4to]

As a working class man of a certain age, I fully support the right of all women whatever class or age not to have to put up with inappropriate bawdy humour from the charmless Wallace or anybody else for that matter.

[@GongsAndChimes]

Spot on.

[@Alexander-zr1rn]

As a working class man of 44, grow up and grow a pair

[@reececoath1]

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[@user-km2bk8zb4m]

Fathers would not like their daughters or wives to be subjected to this vulgar infantile behaviour on a daily basis..... it's not funny or clever, if anything it's aggressive and in a way controlling. I'm no wimp.... I had to put up with this back in the early 70's, it was thoroughly unpleasant and degrading.

[@J.Blogsblues-ns4to]

@@Alexander-zr1rn Well mate, as I wouldn't like my wife, mother or daughter to encounter Wallace I think the same applies to you, your comment just made you seem like a sleazeball.

[@johncremin5738]

Im a 60 year old working class man.his behavior is unacceptable completely. Shame on them in power that allowed him to get away with if

[@jamesjarrett52]

Yeah...whatever.

[@theastral1909]

@@johncremin5738 Thank you John!

[@officially-ROB]

Shut on John you massive helmet smeller

[@dawn7880]

I am a working class woman. I think the stereotyping of working class men is offensive. Horrible chauvinist behaviour is endemic in all levels society, not working class culture per se. I wouldn't tolerate this type of so-called 'bantz' for a second. I don't have to worry - my working class husband is kind, intelligent, loving and supportive. He'd never do or say the vile things Gregg Wallace has been accused of, or tolerate other blokes saying it.Maybe if men generally spoke up rather than let women be treated like this, the world would be a better place. ##ItStartsWithMen

[@JamesMc2051]

There are tons of Gregg Wallaces, all across the country and every one of them is a total knobhead, convinced of their popularity because people below them in the chain of command in their business have to suppress their disgust at them (or they'll find themselves no longer required). It's up to their bosses to sort them out, tell them to change and make sure they do, or sack them and find someone who can act appropriately. If you don't do that then you are an enabler. By the way, there were groping allegations the other day too so that would raise the seriousness of it all if those claims are true.

[@sociallystacey4935]

I had a boss that tried to kiss me, despite being my partner's boss too. When I stopped him, he said "oh come on, you know you want it". 😮

[@sociallystacey4935]

I was 21 he was 50s.😮

[@sunsoutbuttsoutwhodunnit1698]

well said

[@lightningtwostrikes4317]

And a few of those Gregg Wallis characters are also women.

[@user-blob]

Well said.

[@laracolt2708]

I think the hairy biker guy would be a great replacement ❤

[@orbtastic]

That is a pretty good call. He's said himself that he can't bear doing the bikers thing any more after Dave died. He would be a good fit.

[@4annalivia]

Great idea!

[@JosephStealin]

Pretty sure it will be a black lesbian replacing him. That’s why they want rid of him. He’s white and male and not left wing

[@JaneFrost-v3c]

He would. Simon King is a great bloke

[@suedaniels4722]

Excellent idea

[@TheRestIsEntertainment]

This is a re-upload, we apologise for the audio issues before and we hope you enjoy!

[@NathanWoollaston]

I clipped it and have been enjoying multiple Richards saying 'by and large' on repeat for the last 3 hours.

[@doglegsoap7373]

What what was was the the problem problem with with the the original original?

[@Trance4mason]

I thought I was going crazy because I couldn't find this video after seeing the thumbnail earlier!

[@Februarlig]

thank you

[@ronniepye]

Apology accepted.

[@chrisphammond]

Looking at social media I'm amazed at some of the responses to this story. Imagine the scene: your wife, sister or daughter comes home from work in tears (or son/brother/husband). A coworker asked her about her sex life, made lewd jokes at her expense talked openly and graphically about his sex life and stripped naked/semi naked in the workplace. And so many dads/husbands/brothers/mums/wives/sisters would respond with “Grow ap lav its jass bantaaa” give me strength. Funny how many keyboard geezers out there are crying “woke” to defend Wallace, whilst also failing to show enough masculinity to stand up for, or stand beside, women in deference to a man they've never met. Also amazed how many women defend Wallace with "My supermarket boss used to do this and I was OK" Its a sad state of affairs the cultural grooming in evidence. No one is expecting Greg to be hung drawn and quartered. No one wants to find he’s done himself a mischief tomorrow morning. But a privileged TV career isn't a right. In truth the BBC should have disciplined him years ago, this isn’t their first failure. In many ways his handling of the situation is the real barometer of his character and a true insight into his mind set. “I unreservedly apologise and I will cooperate with any investigation into my conduct, and make appropriate changes” was the only way forwards. But he lacked the self discipline for that as well.

[@grahamsymes8762]

He doesn't work for the BBC. The production company he works for is responsible for their own staff discipline.

[@chrisphammond]

@ thats a technicality though isnt it? Appreciate the legal distinction but Ive worked in commissioning, you establish a performance framework and you check things like complaints, staff misconduct amongst other performance measures. The BBCs record has enough blemishes for them to take their duty of care more seriously not wash their hands of it because “he doesn’t technically work for us”

[@davidmitchell7181]

@@chrisphammondyou can make a perfectly valid comment, which is understandable, which most readers understand your intent and what you meant, but you’ll always get that one comment, that one person with either a “ whataboutism “ or an “…aKtually…..I think you’ll find…..”, as if they’ve pulled the rug from out under your feet. Back in the day we called them wankers….

[@knockshinnoch1950]

Agree, it really is disturbing to see the level of support for Wallace and excuses for his behaviour. We have the President elect of the USA and so many others who are engaging in this behaviour. I fear there are just as many who think its ok as there are those of us who abhor it.

[@phill6859]

I'm not responsible for his behaviour. I don't feel the need at all to stand up, behind or in front of women. As women aren't collectively responsible for individual women and don't stand up, behind or in front of men.

[@luciafidalgo296]

Gregg is just pissed he can't get away with it anymore. I am an old woman and I put up with alot of uncivilised behaviour and language from superiors (men) who should have known better. I always thought it was my fault until I realised that once they reached a certain salary level, they released their inner childish humour because they thought they were untouchable. I learnt to keep quiet, not smile or acknowledge it in anyway. They soon left me alone. The sycophants were most welcome to them. I had better things to do with my time.

[@adriandenton6637]

Yea he was angry that he was caught out. Looks like he has been enabled like a little boy for too long.

[@frankshailes3205]

They weren't your superiors, morally they were your inferiors.

[@Metal05]

It works both ways. I’ve heard plenty of women be worse than men, yet if we call you out it would never get heard, just because it’s a man, you think all men are the same.

[@Heligany]

Yes I tended to go for the not acknowledging it in anyway. But I would be very glad this might not be necessary for future generations; if women coming forward, shaming him that is what it will take for cultural change.

[@mamacito1795]

​​@@Metal05not all men are the same but maybe take that up with your fellow men who 1. Can't seem to control their mouths or hands and 2. When another man is exposed(no pun intended) they downplay the behaviour, blame the women, suggest its lies and imply it's a witchhunt. Doesn't look good for you as a male of the species. It's same old story even today in 2024. And please do point me towards any women who have allegations like this and I will gladly not support them

[@barbarapouw-vandevelde3080]

Thank you for clarifying how the complaints about Gregg were not dealt with effectively. A proper apology with some grovelling could probably have saved his career (unless more damning info comes out), but he has very much misread the room and the temperature in it. As a middle class woman of a certain age, I don't feel overly sympathetic towards him now. Like most women, I have seen plenty of men with some power who felt they could say anything to or about a woman, preferably rude and sexual. We are done with accepting it. That is all that has changed. Gregg probably has enough money to retire. He should do so. I am sure the BBC can find a nice working class female foodie to take over Masterchef.

[@KirstyAdams-r8g]

So hang on are you concerned about wether he is guilty or is not guilty, do you want people to just bowe down and apologise even if they aren't guilty I'm so confused here 😅

[@barbarapouw-vandevelde3080]

@KirstyAdams-r8g With 13 complaints over many years, I am not too concerned that he could be innocent. Loads of inappropriate behaviour is not recognised as such by the perpetrator, thus the defensive response. If he were innocent, he could have responded that he was happy about any complaint being investigated, as he was certain of his innocence. Instead, he continues to belittle women, without a grain of introspection. I don't need the court of public opinion to be judge, jury and executioner of someone like Mr. Wallace, instead, his employer needs to publicly explain how inappropriate behaviour complaints were/are handled, and why behaviour, which was clearly found offensive by at least some people on multiple occasions, has been tolerated in a professional setting. If they can prove that all complaints were handled properly, with clear decisions and outcomes for all parties, based on solid conduct policies, Mr. Wallace can continue his career. Somehow, I don't think that that is the way this story will end.

[@Elizadoolittle1948]

​Well, the alternative is that all 13 complaints are made up. So, which is more likely? ​@KirstyAdams-r8g

[@TotemCrow]

@@barbarapouw-vandevelde3080 When this started to come out it seemed to be over something he had said and more than once. To start with I thought it sounded like an over-reaction from something which could have been just words or an opinion from years ago. However, I have now seen the video of Victoria Derbyshire interviewing Gregg Wallaces ghost writer and the things she has spoken of are absolutely appalling. How he could respond to the initial outing of his behaviour with accusations against middle class women is staggering. He must have known all the things he did and seemingly got away with. Surely anyone with that knowledge would be better off just disappearing and keeping silent. There is no way back from this and nor should there be. It would seem his opinion of himself is way off and the guy needs professional help.

[@Nikabrown2020]

Si King.

[@andrewmontague9682]

This isn’t really a huge shock. Virtually every time Wallace spoke to a woman on Masterchef either my girlfriend or I would roll our eyes and exclaim “FFS Greg, she’s not going to sleep with you, give it a rest!”

[@lizalauda1903]

Yes I noticed that too. You could tell how overly excited he got especially when a young pretty contestant was there. Pure cringe.

[@sianiswack633]

He was terrible in every one of the shopkeepers stories from mid 2010s onwards. Bullying, shouty. Maybe the sergeant-major behaviour was part of the deal as presenter, but it gets tiring pretty quickly

[@adriandenton6637]

I've always found him creepy. For a start he is too loud for no reason and only speaks in sound bytes. Looks like my radar was right.

[@chrisphammond]

"Now you CAN COOK" when a blonde woman in her 20s has just dished up a Mackerel and Strawberry cheesecake in the invention test was always a giveaway...

[@McRino1]

ive seen men of a certain age acting inappropriately towards women colleagues and reported it... its insane to me that anyone thinks they can act in any way that makes someone else uncomfortable

[@TotemCrow]

When my bosses left to go and fix machinery in other factories, a guy from the place next door came in and we were chatting. He asked if I could smell his aftershave so I leaned my head slightly forward and he suddenly came closer and kissed my neck. I actually laughed but was shocked and frightened. I couldnt get rid of him fast enough and went for my lunch break. I could not bring myself to return. I told my bosses everything when they returned over the phone, they then had a serious word with him and I learned that he had thought this would be acceptable because he used to do it to the woman who had my job before me !

[@portylad]

So good to read the comments here as opposed to those on most media sites defending his atrocious behaviour.

[@anitahandford4691]

@@portylad 👏

[@iroscoe]

Yeah there's a lot of 'whataboutery' involving Huw Edwards and Saville , yes they should have been fired into the sun with aboard taxpayer funded rockets but Greggs still a obnoxious prick .

[@adriandenton6637]

Guess some people see it as an attack on their culture. Yes there are people like that. I moved away from that years ago.

[@joannaday9530]

Agreed

[@MargateSteve]

Gregg Wallace absolutely ruined Inside the Factory by taking a fascinating concept and dragging it into a CBeebies style of presenting. "You are telling me that these potatoes come into the factory at this end and come out the other end as potato chips? I don't believe you." 40 minutes later we get presented with "here are the potato chips I made" after pressing 2 buttons while wearing a hairnet on his bald head. The bloke forged a TV career with absolutely no validation that he was capable of being an actual presenter. I am not on the "defund the BBC" bandwagon but they do tend to stick with the people they know without bothering to monitor them. I know several people who have stories, outside of the TV world, that suggests this was a when not if story.

[@intelligenceofacertainkind]

It's staggering. GW is bereft of all talent, charm, skill and knowledge. He's always been an utterly repugnant man on every level. I can only think he got on tv because of something dodgy.

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

Gregg Wallace and Jacob Rees-Mogg? It's like an episode of the people I'd most hate to be stranded on a desert island with

[@jujutrini8412]

People I’d nominate for real life Squid Game or Original Japanese Ninja Warrior.

[@iroscoe]

They should get together with Schofield and do a 'Three men in a Boat' type thing .

[@sarahsue42]

I'd watch ​@@iroscoe

[@iroscoe]

@@sarahsue42 Rylan Clark could narrate their wacky misadventures .

[@user-blob]

I dunno, there’s no law on a desert island. One could get away with murder 😁

[@Lumibear.]

Working class old bloke ere, just wanted to say we’re not all stuck in the 70s, some guys just have the social subtlety of a brick in the face, it’s not a class thing, well unless we count getting away with it in parliament.

[@davidmackenzie9899]

My sister put up stalker behaviour from a very famous person during her time in television. She was a young researcher at the time, when I asked her why she didn't say something she just said, I don't wanna loose my job. That man still works in television and is revered.

[@j.b3561]

Dying to know who it was. It's difficult to deal with stuff when you're young, need your job and they are famous. I bet your sister is still furious.

[@j.b3561]

Or better still, why doesn't your sister write to him, on paper and tell him what a shit he was.

[@davidmackenzie9899]

@j.b3561 it's not my story to tell, but yes it still bothers her. It also bothers me cos you wanna do something about it but apart from physically threatening the fella I'm powerless as well.

[@jujutrini8412]

@@davidmackenzie9899 When I started work I honestly thought se* ual harassment was the norm. When I told my boyfriend about everything I was dealing with he was horrified! I only thought it was the norm because from the time I started at Saturday jobs as a kid right through my part time Uni and holiday jobs to my first few jobs after graduating it happened at all of them. I told my female friends and they reported some similar behaviour, a young person only really has limited experience of life and goes from there. They take advantage of naivety, lowly status, burning ambition and quite frankly young women and girls in our society have been “groomed” to be people-pleasers which is very toxic for us all.

[@elainewallace-e1o]

Name him .

[@gavin6290]

It shows how careful celebrities have to be, that Richard wanted to apologise for not knowing something about someone at some stage in the past.

[@susanjames1227]

Probably also says something about the character of Richard Osman.

[@AIJimmybad]

​@@susanjames1227yes but not in a good way. Apologising for doing absolutely nothing wrong is a slippery slope.

[@budekins7779]

Greg Wallace guilty of sexual misconduct? Yeah, hardly a surprise, always came across as a creep. Found him completely unwatchable.

[@mikejones-tf6zo]

watching his mate toreetess taking a few sideways steps to get away from him is so funny

[@joannaday9530]

Deeply unpleasant guy with anger issues

[@Subcomandante73]

In any normal workplace this would have led to either a final written warning or dismissal. If you let someone get away with this stuff over and over again then they feel empowered to carry on.

[@paddyandhisguitar2831]

Yes I agree. I didn't buy the argument that TV has some sort of panopticon effect and held to a higher standard when the opposite seems to be true.

[@mikejones-tf6zo]

if this happened in a factory he would have got floored by the blokes

[@Shobz-e8s]

Absolutely! How can every other industry be so acutely aware of what is and isn’t appropriate in the workplace yet he has no clue!!

[@InaMacallan]

The luxury retail industry was much worse than the BBC (cough).

[@dieSchreckschraube]

@@Shobz-e8s If you really think this does not happen or is severly punished in other industries you must live in some parallel universe. This type of misconduct happens in most industries, but as they are not in the public eye like TV you just don't hear about it.

[@sambirch6784]

I don't believe someone can get to the age of Greg Wallace, having worked in the industries he has, without knowing what is and isn't acceptable in the workplace. For a start, unless he is socially inept he can't have failed to have noticed how the majority of other males in the workplace behave and how his own behaviour differed. Wallace no doubt thought he was being edgy, doing what he knew to be inappropriate but saw the lack of push back as permission to continue.

[@andybrice2711]

My guess is that when you're the star, everyone feels pressured into laughing at your jokes. So maybe he thought everyone was enjoying his old-fashioned workplace banter, and the complaints were just from a few prudes and snobs. When actually more people were quietly cringing, because the culture of a BBC cookery show studio is quite different from that of a grocery market. Edit: Okay, in light of the more serious allegations now emerging. Maybe he's just an actual sex-pest who doesn't care who he upsets.

[@thatwasthedaythatwas]

Well said. If only Wallace was as observant

[@Grimxxfandango]

I think the issue is he was put on a pedestal, look at the many examples of famous people thinking they’re untouchable because of their status, yet are absolutely disgusting individuals. Their behaviour is accepted as the show must go on and the pockets still want filling. He likely knows he’s an obnoxious idiot and thought no one would stand in his way. So glad he’s been pulled up on his gross behaviour.

[@kcwolf4624]

I would rather boot my TV screen in , than watch at home with the Rees moggs .

[@craigfoulkes]

I would rather boot Mogg in.

[@senorprofe6212]

I think there's a third option

[@highdownmartin]

I kicked my TV in and sent GB news the bill

[@williamdoyle1108]

Just be glad it's on Discovery + instead of Terrestrial TV.

[@chrisphammond]

Even being aware of its existence is making me want to bleach my eyeballs. Its like watching an adaption of David Copperfield focused solely on the Murdstones.

[@DE-xt7jv]

It is not just a middle class thing, it is across all classes and many walks of life. Basically these men get away with what the environment lets them get away with.

[@Davidonezero]

from minute one Wallace was on screen I thought ‘surely there is a lot better option out there than this buffoon’

[@jamesbeaumont7352]

I'd bet anything that you did not think that twenty years ago.

[@workinprogresssince1974]

Thank you for picking apart the GW situation in a well rounded and informed way. Our defence from these people is the victims speaking out. Secrecy is their only weapon against getting away with it and when the victims step forward, their reputations can crumble very fast.

[@macsmiffy2197]

We took 16 children to see Moana on Saturday for my granddaughter’s birthday. It was the first time I’ve been in a cinema where everyone clapped at the end.

[@thisnthat42]

I've been in the cinema twice where people clapped. The last time was seeing Frozen 2, it wasn't the whole audience but some families did clap at the end as that song kicked in. Just a fun movie with a bit of nostalgia as our kids have grown up with these characters. The other was Chicken Run. Aardman's first outing on the big screen and I think there was just a lot of affection for the company in the room so when the movie ended, and it had been a great movie I think a lot of people just felt, "Well done, you nailed it."

[@sortedm]

The only time I’ve ever experienced clapping in the cinema was for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2, back in the day. Wasn’t even that good.

[@slytheringingerwitch]

I've been in the cinema twice when people clapped, first years ago when Hot Fuzz was shown and more recently when our local cinema showed Labyrinth. I kind of thought it was weird.

[@knockshinnoch1950]

The middle aged middle class women of a certain age comment revealed Wallace for who he is in all his vile "glory". What's so disturbing is the amount of support he appears to have online- it all still exists just beneath the surface of "polite" society. Will things ever change? Schools, Hospitals, The Police, The Armed Forces, Harrods and other large organisations public and private. 2000 years of this cannot be eradicated overnight- this is a long hard battle

[@andyhealy3320]

He still doesn't 'know' and is simply jumping on the bandwagon in an effort to show himself in a holier than thou light.

[@AndrewRush1965]

Why are you making excuses for the production companies? Yes,, the BBC should probably have better oversight but the production company should put its own house in order anyway, just like any other company. I understand the younger people not saying anything for the reasons that you've given, and even the slightly older women, but where are the middle aged men? We don't like to see this sort of thing so why didn't any of the established "stars" say anything?

[@akimbojimbo8393]

Yes of course i agree, as would (and did) Marina and Richard. But you are watching a podcast about the ins and outs of production companies. Dont be surprised when that podcast tries to explain the ins and outs of a production company.

[@bardsamok9221]

I don't think it's men that are the most into Greg Wallace and MasterChef. Didn't Richard say the viewers are mainly women of a certain age? I imagine men don't watch (as much) because Greg's "humour" and bad taste jokes are unbearably weak. I guess men don't like Greg Wallace or his sh't jokes and pastry puns.

[@alfsmith4936]

They don't want to upset their bosses.

[@AaBb-id1dm]

This podcast is very sycophantic and biased towards tv production in general. Everyone and everything is “amazing” and “lovely”. Nobody in TV makes mistakes according to Richard. (Until they are officially cancelled and then he changes his tune).

[@AaBb-id1dm]

@@alfsmith4936they definitely work hard to make sure they’re still accepted within the industry. I wish this podcast had rotating hosts, including those who are ex-industry or more senior, so that we could get a more honest and less vanilla look at things. (Also maybe we could hear about actual entertainment instead of the dullard topics of politics, snooker, book shelves and quiz shows)

[@Home4theBewildered]

Just swap him for someone who is nicer to people, I prefer the Chefs anyway. Please keep the programmes.

[@DrCalamityJan]

The simplification of the Greg Wallace issue into 'take your medicine, do some self-reflection, and move on' is really problematic in this episode. Wallace's snarky middle-aged women comment reveals a man who is manifestly incapable of self-reflection.

[@macmachine]

So over the Greg Wallace hysteria after watching a video compilation of double entendre salaciousnrss from Nigella, Bake Off, Graham Norton, Drag Race and sundry other gay men. Seems certain people get away with being inappropriate and others not.

[@DrCalamityJan]

​@macmachine is it just double entendre stuff with wallace though? Aren't there other allegations too?

[@MoonbeameSmith]

@@macmachine It's one thing to make a (good) joke using a double entendre, it's quite another time to have to live with it day in and day out even after being told to stop it...

[@maxine2798]

@@DrCalamityJanyes

[@aidensmobile614]

I think you misunderstand what they are saying. They aren't advocating for this reaction. They're saying that's probably what would have been the outcome had Gregg responded with more contrition.

[@scottwilson8880]

"Reese mog, it's a sort of horrifying prospect" Richards best line of the show and aligned with 99% of the UK public.

[@MartinKatscan]

Wallace using class as an excuse for why some are offended by his behaviour, only serves to throw his own class (lets be honest. he hasn't been 'working class' for decades) under the bus. His statement by proxy suggests 'young working class women' would have no problem with being talked to like this. I'm willing to bet that if you asked a cross -section of working class woman, working as waitresses, cleaners, nurses etc etc, they would all have a catalogue of incidents of being made uncomfortable (and worse) by lecherous creeps in positions of power.

[@markmiller6402]

I’ve worked in many environments in my working life,and it’s easy. Read your audience guys, and try and imagine your daughter having to listen to men talking to them in a vile way. In the pub with your mates, do what you like.

[@davidjames579]

That's a fascinating thought from Richard if Gregg Wallace never watches the show and so as such thinks his credit with the public is much higher than it is for the things he's accused of. He could conceivably think the public love me for my jokes, so my career is safe and the public will back me over this. It would explain his responses so far. Wow! This is delicious. lol

[@gayleparis3943]

This might be the case if A) Wallace was as thick as pig shit, B) he hadn’t have been spoken to by his employers about not doing this and C) he had no ability to read how people behave around him.

[@fitzfitzchivalry4538]

Im an 8yo working class bloke from Shanksfield who breeds goldfish and works for a major bank in london. I fully support woman of any age being able to watch masterchef at ANY time of their choosing.

[@KelculesIII]

8 years Old! Now that's proper working class! Are you a chimney sweeper?

[@AaBb-id1dm]

You know you’re posh and out touch when you say “I know too many people like Rees mogg” and think darts is a profound insight into the working class 😂

[@alfsmith4936]

I think Richard hit the nail on the Head with GW.. I think he plays into a character of what he sees on TV but doesn't stop to think about the edits. If he had apologised and said he didn't realise how offensive he was being, he would be fine now but blaming cancel culture is the action of someone who doesn't care about anybody but themselves.

[@ThedudeabidesDood-l5n]

Greg Wallace is the luckiest fruit and veg market stall worker in the world. How he got the masterchef gig is amazing.

[@buenisimoingles4866]

He met a man in a Harvester Inn.

[@intelligenceofacertainkind]

It's unbelievable. There has to be some shady goings on. Wallace is bereft of talent, charm, knowledge, skill. Just a person picked randomly on the street would be better than Wallace.

[@aidanknox122]

Not really, those who won the nepo sperm and egg race are the luckiest, right accross the media.

[@juliangilbert5465]

He's a bully. The sex 'jokes' are just his way of humiliating women in order to bully them. He'll no doubt have a different method to bully men. He knows what he's doing. Not just jokes. Bullying in the workplace is a sackable offence. Fire him.

[@Govanmauler]

I'm 10 or so years younger than Wallace so a slight generational difference but the idea that any woman is going to honesty laugh about you publicly joking about anything sexual is wild to me .....Especially if you look like he does.

[@76ToneCrome]

You really think your last sentence was needed. As if he was better looking, it wouldn't be as bad.

[@peterjackson4763]

I have seen women publicly laugh about sexual jokes (not made by me).

[@ladyflimflam]

@@peterjackson4763Because to do anything else in the moment is a safety risk.

[@TR-rz1xt]

@@peterjackson4763 Because if you don't respond in "the expected manner" you put a target on your back for the future.

[@Tnya099]

​@@peterjackson4763presumably you're talking about women laughing at jokes by a superior at work (otherwise the context is entirely different) and yes you may feel you have to. Same with guys who put up with bad behaviour from superiors. It's tough

[@marklola12]

Rod stuart has zero need to talk. for a start he did or said nothing at the time to protect his wife but hes a nasty man himself, for instance i was at a show years ago and he was literally shouting and screaming at a backing singer and she was crying and in bits...hes a nasty piece of work and he needs to watch out as it will come back to get him like this did Wallace

[@daniellamcgee4251]

Greg Wallace was enabled and rewarded by air time.

[@adriandenton6637]

He's probably panicking as he wouldn't be able to carry on living to the same standards if he loses his main source of income.

[@mikejones-tf6zo]

thing is, he started by being obnoxious and saw that he could get away with it, showing everyone that it was his cockney barrow boy signature,

[@ThePhudD]

‘A jumped-up pantry boy who never knew his place’

[@thebagelsproductions]

This not so charming man.

[@rosec6680]

He is a walking caricature of a misogynistic geezer. He isn't even the slightest bit witty.

[@dibdab101]

nice reference 👍very appropriate

[@calcecini]

Great line, great movie and two great actors.

[@nicolab2075]

​@@calceciniMovie?? I know the line from the Smiths song, is it from somewhere else?

[@sodiumlights]

I can't imagine Michel Roux putting up with Wallace's lewd behaviour.

[@JAMAICADOCK]

As someone who has moved in such circles, let me tell you that such behaviour is not anomalous. Many men and some women treat fame as a license to thrill. Show business or being in the public eye more generally just seems to turn some people into insatiable beasts and all these people now dissing Wallace know for sure he's hardly unique. Which I think comes down to fame being the new aristocracy. Famous people like aristocrats having split personalities; by day respectable and discerning'/ by night rakish and decadent. However, I don't think it just comes down to an abuse of power but the psychological pressure of being in the public eye, wherein a persona is created that never swears, never farts, never argues, never gets in a fight. Obviously Wallace found the pressure of his tv persona all too much to maintain. When cameras stopped rolling he just had to let rip. I was mates with a famous actor who was doing a stint in pantomime which he hated. On his nights off he was fouled mouthed, constantly talking about sex, and getting bombed off his face with coke, After a while, I thought he was a bit sad, like he was trying to convince me he wasn't the washed up actor doing panto, in reality he was some edgy dark-horse the public had no clue about, It almost felt like he thought he was doing me favour letting me in on the real him. But it was all a bit pathetic really, like he was trying too hard to impress. Like he was just creating another persona. I mean we've all got these alter egos where we let our hair down and engage in risque behaviour, but with many people in the public eye those alter egos get out of control, turning into personality disorders. It really is like Jekyll and Hyde, quite disturbing to be around to see people transform like that

[@KKAnM]

Fascinating to see The Best Christmas Pageant Ever made into a movie again. The 1983 TV movie version (with Loretta Switt) was filmed in my grandparents church in Vancouver, BC. There’s even a half-second cameo by my great-grandmother.

[@mostynf]

Good to hear Richard and Marina’s take on the Wallace saga. Reasonable and nuanced words from Richard regarding how tv productions work. Some of the hysterical online comments you read along the lines of “shut the BBC down now!” are so ridiculous. Of course safeguarding measures need to come into place, it’s an ongoing situation that can be dealt with and then they can become better equipped to avoid similar things happening again.

[@andybrice2711]

Yeah. This was actually a very reasonable analysis. Amongst the many ridiculous takes of saying that either he's done nothing wrong, or that he's some kind of sex-offender who must be immediately scrubbed from the airwaves.

[@mostynf]

@@andybrice2711 Yeah it’s somewhere between the two. It’s inappropriate language and not acceptable in any work place, but if it didn’t stray into illegal behaviour then I can sympathise a bit that it’s taken this long to deal with properly.

[@andybrice2711]

@@mostynf Although there’s some new allegations emerging now which do include illegal stuff. So it's possible the guy is actually a predator.

[@giffgaffnettwork5626]

I would pay money to see Rees-Mogg and Wallace in a 501 darts final. The winner would get the chance to present Love Island wearing a blindfold.

[@lucyzita7478]

Whoever is his boss is not doing his/her job. Are you so removed from the show that you are unaware of insulting/inapproriate comments? And this chef is clearly full of himself that he is unaware of his abhorent behaviour. Making comments at 7 a.m. smacks of a man unwilling to admit wrong doing.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

Gregg Wallace isn't a chef; he used to run a grocery supplier, and he owns a restaurant, but he's never actually worked in a kitchen. It was the other bloke on MasterChef who was the trained chef.

[@phillipdale6464]

I concur with the comments regarding Politicians, they are the last people to be be voicing an opinion on behaviour in Public Office.

[@markhutton6824]

Have a code of ethics and ensure it is understood and that there is a complaints procedure that can be anonymous. If this basic thing isn't in the media production companies then they are years behind. Professional standards are not hard to enforce but you have to have them in the first place.

[@slytheringingerwitch]

My father never could stand him. (Gregg I mean). Okay here's the thing, so the BBC have cancelled showing the Christmas Masterchef because of Gregg. Now I understand them thinking that it was the best option, but the programme isn't about Gregg is it? Couldn't they show the episodes with a disclaimer stating that they were filmed before and them being shown is because of the celebrities' efforts and not him. Or they blur him out, have his words spoken by an actor? It seems a shame to me, that the celebrities who took part in Christmas Masterchef won't have their efforts shown because of Gregg. It also needs to be said that the BBC have pulled all episodes of the Repair Shop that feature Jay Blades, so you know, its a shame.

[@johnh1252]

Their biggest concern is the PR response 🤦

[@ldavies3280]

Agree about the need for reviews of the powerful ones. Obviously there would have to be a definite pattern, because the temptation to have an anonymous go at your boss, if you just happen not to get on, would be hard to resist.

[@standardlamp]

Marina .. I like the jumper you’re wearing could I ask where it’s from. Keep up the great work both.

[@jennifermotha9665]

Reminds me of Emily Matis's Prince Andrew's interview jacket. It's like a military style.

[@nataliejohnstone1214]

I feel like the reason the 90s stars are still the ones bringing in theatre goers out is because The people still going to the films are the people that went in the '90s... Going to the movies isn't something as popular as it used to be. Everybody streams everything in one way or another. Being that we all went in the '90s we resonate with those actors and they will bring us back, the next generation. Not so much.

[@jamesrowe3606]

I'm 72, so as "old-fasioned" as they come and I've never considered unwanted sexualised banter to be acceptable. Please stop lazily ascribing racism, homophobia and misogyny as endemic to us baby boomers. It wasn't acceptable then and it isn't now.

[@susanjames1227]

Fascinating discussion on the Gregg Wallace story. Richard Osman is reliably intelligent and enlightening, especially his comments at 21:33.

[@martinsear5470]

Not sure I would call Melanie Sykes middle class, she's a proud working class northern lass.

[@tsr207]

Always thought she was a class act - the way she carried herself and the humour she used - would have never thought of her with Des - yet it worked well. Wish her well..

[@baronvonhoughton]

You think she lives up north in a working class area? lol

[@claregale9011]

😮 no middle class up north...what lol

[@adsandjacs]

Funny wasn't the reason she quit tv because of Keith Lemon

[@intelligenceofacertainkind]

She is middle class. But as a child she grew up in a working class family. Class is not an immutable characteristic.

[@chiteushamutete]

'It's like a MasterChef Cinematic Universe..' 🤣🤣

[@redjacc7581]

regards wallace, do the production company not also need to take responsibility? why were they not telling him not to say certain things?

[@rextitan]

I really enjoyed the discussion about movies doing well. I don’t know why but it really felt uplifting.

[@NathanWoollaston]

The Greg Wallace episode 🍿🍿🍿

[@NathanWoollaston]

*GG Mastertw*t

[@bernardcollier1226]

Could you keep your hands from flapping in front of your mouths please 🙏🏼

[@thomassummerhill6357]

Never watched any show in which Wallace appears but any man who doesn’t know how to behave in the workplace deserves all they get .

[@ruizhiqiu2109]

The split screen format is a little distracting. IMO there is not enough distance between the images of Richard and Marina. It could br because of their difference in their sizes.

[@nikkershaw8385]

There is also some significant blame that needs to be recognised on the production company. Anyone who has watched Greg on MasterChef can see that it's clear that they not only allow but encourage that type of language and comments. If they let people get away with abhorrent behaviour, it becomes normalised. This doesn't excuse Greg's alleged behaviour.

[@kb5509]

What has he ever done on MasterChef that the BBC should have picked up on? A weird vibe? You can't sack someone for a vibe mate.

[@nikkershaw8385]

@@kb5509 Not the BBC, Shine and not sack, investigate

[@kb5509]

@@nikkershaw8385 you can't investigate someone for a weird vibe on an episode MasterChef. That's fucking mental.

[@MalonsMilk]

I think if Greg asked why he made that stupid post, probably because he was angry at people calling him out. Why he was angry for them to calling him out - probably because he was getting away with it for so long. Why he got away with it for so long - he knew he had the power to end or ruin peoples career. He would get to the root cause and it was because he felt powerful and believed he could do these things to people. But the bigger they are the harder they fall. He hasn’t done anything illegal per se. It’s the fact that he has been continually highly unprofessional and a normal person would have been sacked for this behaviour.

[@TheVleckChannel]

I don’t understand why a simple HR investigation is being treated as the biggest story in the country.

[@andybrice2711]

I think because it touches upon many culture-war flash-points, like: What type of humour should be appropriate in public? How should conflicts like this be handled in organisations and the public eye? Is this illustrative institutional sexism, or classism? Should politicians be getting involved in this sort of thing? Perhaps it's also being used to distract from other news. But I think it has touched a nerve for a lot of people. And needs hashing out.

[@sarahdixon8767]

If this had happened on any other channel it wouldn't be hyped up as much. BBC is publicly funded so any excuse to bash it is open to other channels and BBC news themselves wish to be seen as impartial and hype even more.

[@andybrice2711]

@@sarahdixon8767 And, in fairness, the BBC has a history of being very politically correct whilst also repeatedly mishandling serious sexual misconduct. So it's now under intense scrutiny across the political spectrum.

[@frankydaulman2291]

So often this sad Gregg affair has drawn input based on class which he chose to introduce. It doesn't take class to know how to behave with class and respect. I was reluctant to rush to the frenzy, but yeah he more or less confirmed being distinctly avoidable. That said, well done for strongly pointing out it isn't just the BBC or TV.

[@AndrewRush1965]

"most people have all sorts of things like this in the workplace and nobody cares and they can't do anything about it"? Really?

[@nicolab2075]

Not sure. But for most young women that seems about right.

[@tomdmann]

Re. Greg Wallace I don't jibe at all with Marina's "this happens everywhere, but people only complain when it's television" line. From the outside looking in it seems to me this is very much an industry specific problem.

[@leonardfairground5937]

I preferred the double audio; I thought it was challenging 😊

[@goesjem]

I love this channel. Are there live TV broadcasts too? Interesting topics and conversations. I am British, living in Austria. Thanks!

[@jonnylumberjack6223]

The only reality show that included Reece-Mogg that I would have any interest in, whatsoever, would be one that ran for at LEAST five years, wherein he was dumped in a manky hostel in Blackpool, on basic benefits. And see how he fares then. He would still be luckier than any genuinely struggling person, because he would know that his ordeal will end, eventually, and he could return to his "normal" life. So it wouldn't be real real. But five years, it would be real enough for me to thoroughly enjoy the spectacle.

[@DougHolmes]

I'm a friend of one of Wallace's ex-wives... She's in no way surprised by any of this.

[@camera2painting]

Wallace has been married 4 times. What did she and the others see in him, other than money and tv fame?

[@philjones7076]

@@camera2painting his witty banter?

[@danmorrison740]

These two are so good together. So funny. Big crush on Marina. I’d arrange my book collection in any way she liked. Keep up the good work.

[@mishkac4959]

Richard - you have to read Darts With The Devil from the horror anthology Silverweed Road . It's absolutely brilliant!

[@davidmitchell7181]

The sad thing about the box office is that the top ten are either sequels or IP ….not one original thought in the top ten movies whatsoever….

[@MKTED62]

to say this is "just a quirk of his personality " Richard is wrong, he used his position to belittle women with his sexual innuendos getting his satisfaction from his behaviour...stop making excuses for this

[@TheNotSoFakeNews]

i think your taking Richards words completely out of context too be honest. Thats clearly not his opinion, hes verbalising the production companies rational.

[@JaquiParker-kb4ev]

Thank you for the enlightenment. Really interesting watch and I’ve learnt so much that I’ve subscribed !

[@buenisimoingles4866]

Harvester was empty this morning.

[@morchangstudios]

We have become scared of everything and nothing

[@phueal]

I love Moana, and I think a big part of why is because it was the first successful Disney movie without any kind of romance plot or subplot. For everything else up until then they just inevitably felt the need to shoehorn in romance, even when it didn't feel necessary at all (like in the Lion King, for example) - but in Moana they avoided it and it worked brilliantly.

[@barrymiller6289]

Good point! Can't say the same for Frozen

[@scottmcmartin2622]

Upsetting people isnt the problem given the curcumstances. At times that happens. Its not out of spite for some. However sexualised comments that are unwanted and behaviour that makes people feel threatened isnt acceptable in any place.

[@claregale9011]

Ive got someone at my work that crosses the line often , i called him out on it and he just laughed , he just does'nt get it .

[@jujuUK68]

Someone told me Gregg Wallace was in hot water. No wonder there have been complaints. He *knows* he should have been in a 'Bains Marie" to ensure he didnt burn or stick to the bottom.

[@ls253]

Marina is completely wrong. Anything of that nature in what did she say? paper mills in Slough? is generally dealt with efficiently and swiftly. The reason that TV and entertainment gets a ad rap is precisely because they DON@T deal with it in the same way. FOr the reasons outlined by Richard. Wonder how many paper mills Marina has worked in.

[@stuartbadminton]

"Think of the things that dominate the top ten shows of any given week", re: working class representations on TV. Soaps, Quizzes, Talent and Reality shows.

[@theunluckydip]

The Player is currently free on Pluto TV

[@RogerCherry-w8c]

Presumably all this business about Wallace has been common knowledge in the media for years, should have been stamped out years ago (along with his career) but it has only "come to light" now. Why? Has he finally gone beyond his well established behaviour or is there another reason this has become public now? Likely another part of the story those in the media are not sharing with the public.

[@fritillarymeleagris6778]

Popbitch has been reporting on him for years. They were also reporting Savile and Epstein long before those stories broke. Sometimes gossip might not be just gossip ....

[@annjarvis2437]

Especially disappointed by Richard Osman defending Wallace and implying he can get help and come back as if nothing has happened

[@wjp555]

Why on earth can't MPs talk about this. Hyde completely, utterly wrong on this. Stupid argument on her part that because there has been some bad behaviour in parliament they shouldn't talk about this. There are rapists in the police, should the police stop investigating rapes? No of course not. They are the publics' representatives. This is the publics money Why can't MPs demand media people adhere to proper standards?

[@WatchthisandChill]

how could the contestants not be aware of Gregg’s behaviour and personality?

[@ivorjizzload5643]

Soon we'll have a new BBC TV series where he's all alone on a desert island in full blame-shift mode cooking crabs and fish of a certain age to survive.

[@WhyDoIComment]

You normally edit right?

[@RandyWillcox]

That "The Graduate" legacy sequel sounds hysterical! 😂 47:28

[@cherryblossomcbt]

I'm really disappointed in these two for defending Wallace. The allegations subsequently made by his ghostwriter are far more serious than a bit of banter. Even if some of the complaints about Wallace are about 'scripted reality' jokes, that's worse in many respects. So the defence here is that the production team identifies space for a cheeky joke, they let Wallace come up with 'model's own' but at no point talk to the women on the receiving end, to check they're are ok with it? That sounds like institutional misogyny. I'm saddened that this show has tried to make sleazy, disrespectful and inappropriate misogyny appear as something quirky, fuzzy-round-the-edges, harmless old man humour.

[@intelligenceofacertainkind]

Tip of the iceberg with Wallace. BBC will be busy burning evidence.

[@eimearkavanagh3608]

But no one in the US could afford eggs a month ago. Mescal isn't pronounced like Pascal. The stress is on the first syllable only

[@TheBarnsleyBill]

Marina’s profound joy when she says hello is the absolute best thing on you tube every time. Don’t believe me? Go watch the first 10 seconds again. You are welcome.

[@billybollockhead5628]

Just look at how he talks about puddings : "Phwoooarrr!" he often says..