Huben K1 .22 2021 Wood (Special edition) - Part 1

[@stedyone1090]

Love my Huben. 350 bar fill. Huge adjustable power. Very very accurate

[@taheerkhan7715]

Which Caliber? and year model?

[@stedyone1090]

@@taheerkhan7715 2021 22 cal

[@varmintknockers]

The smile on your face says it all , have fun with your new Huben .

[@gregorkamensek3923]

:)

[@eyesintheskies]

Awesome to see one with a wood stock. Always prefer walnut although doesn’t mix with carbon fibre. It’s kinda traditional vs ultra modern. The k1 is one of the few I have seen that looks good in synthetic. Think it’s the all black. Now an ebony stock! That would be the winner 😀

[@MyAirgunPhase]

It's so nice to see you glowing and gush about it! I'm really happy for you, man. I've also loved your pistol conversion, and all the technical details you share, thanks a lot!

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Thanks :)

[@henrymoreland8719]

After 2+ year's of trying , I recently gave up on getting a K1 ( local law ) Pleased for you. Truly , for me the most desirable gun on the market

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Very sorry to hear that!

[@aventura365.]

It's always a pleasure when I see a notification of a new video from you, that Huben in wood stock it's beautiful!!!! Love my Huben far a way the best hunting companion that I ever had, congrats from Uruguay!!!

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Thanks.

[@gregmcb5305]

One thing I kinda loved about the idea of the huban was that it was a gun designed around slugs, I might of misunderstood that but it seems like they are going another direction :/

[@gregorkamensek3923]

It is hard to say what Huben plan for the future and usually thy move relative slow... I would say that K1 is not that really designed to go to any bigger calibers without redesigning all major components. So they could probably not use same parts (most of them) as they do for .22 and .25. At first glance the newer K1 are more around pellets, because in terms of majority of shooters, that was at the time their biggest flaw. Not only that, in the past, they did not shoot what we now call "standard" slugs well either so they required something that was not off the shelf and thy got a bad reputation because of that. Now I thing they just want that the gun shoots pellets well and the slugs are less concern for them. I have more test to make, maybe I will find a way for the slugs to shoot accurately...

[@gregmcb5305]

@@gregorkamensek3923 I liked the idea of the huban slugs they designed for it because they have a really good bc, how are they shooting in the new gun?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

@@gregmcb5305 Too early to say for sure, not enough test but so far, the groups were not very good with any boat tails I tried... Again, I only tested once so there still might be a setting that will suit them...

[@gregmcb5305]

@@gregorkamensek3923 man they should allow you to choose whether you want to slug barrel, or a pellet barrel. That’s what I always loved about the Huban was its ability to shoot slugs well

[@jameswigginton5509]

The look on your face is priceless, a kid with a new toy, enjoy!

[@gregorkamensek3923]

:)

[@redgum1340]

It made me so happy to see you wrapped up in this rifle because, just like you, I love the whole thing too. Unfortunately, I don't have the funds to buy something like that but I do dream a lot. Hope you enjoy your new 'toy' Gregor :)

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Thank you.

[@riaandewinnaar5040]

K1 mk2 up for grabs in my side of the woods... I'm gonna own one soon :)

[@WEOWNTHESKIES]

when are they going to release that pistol version with this same action? I thought that was so cool.

[@fatihgul77]

Looking forward next video and more details about barrel

[@johnb5519]

It's a beauty. I prefer the wooden stocks also.

[@KingHaggis]

Awesome looking gun! I really love the wood stock. It's a shame they don't include an option to mount a bipod or a strap by default. You can add one but you'll have to through some trial and error finding the right screws and pictanny slingstud adapter rail. They should just include it for a few extra dollars or make it an option. Apart from that, very happy with my .25 Huben though I can't get it to group right with JSB Knock Out slugs. Pellets group okay.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

There is a possibility that I have different barrel in .25 as you do. The data that I posted in this video does not match with my .25 barrel, that is why I mentioned in the video that I have some questions for Huben regarding barrels.

[@KingHaggis]

@@gregorkamensek3923 I'll be interested to hear their answers.

[@qg786]

I 3d design my own silencers and they have vent holes at the back, the baffles are designed in a way that the air gets diverted out the back rather than the front. Kind of like a tesla valve. 🤔

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Yes, I agree that this design is the best as the air has the longest travel before it exits and loses longitudinal vibrations (sound) in the process, but when you are talking about shroud on the bulpup, this makes those holes quite close to shooters ears and to the shooter, the gun appears louder...

[@qg786]

@@gregorkamensek3923 I think it depends on the size of the holes at the back, the smaller the hole the higher the pitch. My silencers has 3mm holes at the back to give the air as little resistance as it can. I designed it to be effective for hunters/pest control, to have as little noise going towards the target so that a follow up shot is possible.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

@@qg786 Yes that is right. Huben needs these holes as its shroud volume is very small and without it would be much louder as a large portion of the air would still vent out the muzzle of the shroud. This is the best way to have the volume relatively low and still get good suppression.

[@-Ricochet-]

Nice review. You forgot to mention that it now lacks the swivel stud (grooves) at the front. At least my .25 SE does. I was planning on mounting a bipod but I'll have to add one my self. And I am surprised by your groups. I found out that mine only shoots relatively accurately above 970FPS with MK2's. Kinda a bummer since that wastes a lot of air without any major gains. 900FPS would have been more appropriate for target shooting. Also, knock-outs are all over the place..

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Yes, you are right... Although it is only missing a hole for it. That can easily be made but not sure that people would actually want to do that to this stock... This one is in .22 and I shoot with JSB MR... You are right about .25, the King heavies (mk1 or mk2) do not take velocities above 900 fps well...

[@-Ricochet-]

@@gregorkamensek3923 On the contrary, my gun does not shoot accurately at velocities BELOW 970 FPS. I know that every barrel is different but that has me baffled (no pun intended). You recommended 130b setting and I tried that but the groups really tighten up when I crank up the pressure to 140-150b. Weird? And according to your previous review of .25 cal the knockouts were performing really well. Have they made some design changes to to SE that would make them perform much worse now? I get dish plate sized groups at 100M. I am still working on a re-shaper so they will sit much more firmly in the mag by enlarging the outer diameter by 0.1mm or so. It is quite a task though. But other suitable slugs are virtually unabtainable in Europe so I feel this would be the best option. Also, immediately after getting the gun I realised that loading was a pain in the butt so I had to make a simple tool to hold down the flexible pellet retainer. When loading by pushing it down, my magazine was full og led shreds. That only made accuracy worse and increased cleaning intervals. I wish there was a latch or a removable cover of some sorts. If anyone is interested I can share the .STL Overall I do like the gun but it has a lot of potential for improvement and I guess I was expecting more at this price point and so many iterations.

[@KingHaggis]

@@-Ricochet- EXCACTLY my experience as well. I bought 10 tins of .25 JSB knock outs based on Gregor's review and I can't get them to group right so maybe I have a different barrel than his .25 model. At 75 meters it's 3 inch groups for me if I'm lucky. I really love my december 2020 model Huben K1 but I can't get accuracy out of them with JSB knock out slugs. And like you I'm annoyed by the fact the K1 doesn't come with a means to attach a bipod and sling. You can make it work but it takes some frustrating time. I hope we'll find the right ammo for it one day. I tried JSB pellets. They're a lot better than slugs. I shoot them around 1000fps and haven't tried below 970 yet so I can't confirm your findings.

[@-Ricochet-]

@@KingHaggis I appreciate the feedback. I do have some plans that may improve things slightly. I am going to polish the barrel with soft high grit cloths working my way up to 8000 grit. There's also one gentleman on KZbin that had great results after cleaning the barrel thoroughly and lubing slugs with silicone grease. I have yet to try that. Not sure he was using JSBs though. But in the end, I belive that resizing them and getting them uniform is the optimal solution regardless of the brand. I would also love to try AVS and Spoton slugs if I ever manage to get hold of some..

[@gregorkamensek3923]

@@-Ricochet- I don't know if the made any changes, I have this one in .22 and the .25 is 2020 model (not SE). I am trying some things with ZAN slugs, we intend to make some special slug that would be appropriate for K1 and L2, but it is still work in progress...

[@KingHaggis]

For those who want to take the full advantage of the Huben K1's 350 bar, I just learned of a product called "Extreme Booster Pump". It's supposed to be a very useful addition to your fill station and should allow you to get your Huben filled to 350 bar even if your compressor and fillstation only go up to 300 bar. I haven't tried it myself so I can't vote for it yet but I'm very interested. I'm a bit scared of explosions though so I hope it's safe :-D

[@jessjames1450]

Hi Gregor, I am planning on buying a Huben. I have a arforce condor in .25 so I wanted to but a .25 Huben . I am not a huge accuracy shooter but I do like to hunt small game. Do you think the .25 is good for me? Thank you in advance, Gregor I really like your channel and all the time you spend showing us how toå disassemble the Huben.Also I like your honesty! Hi

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Hi. Yes, I think K1 .25 is a good choice for you but you should be aware of the differences of operation that comes with K1 such as: non removable magazine, always ready to fire more difficult to unload (I guess you are used to this)...

[@aashoj]

Hi Gregor, Is only the limit Edition whit the Carbon Shroud who have the air vent back on the shroud, the standard 2021 still got it on the end of the barrel. ...and yes, is more load compare the standard version. I have test a lot with slugs and is not very good. The best result is the NSA 28,5 grain in .2175 and it must be these size, .218 fit better in the magazine, but not perform so good as the .2175.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Hi. I don't know about that. From what I have seen till now, only SE has these holes on the back side. Thanks for the info about the slugs. I appreciate it!

[@aashoj]

@@gregorkamensek3923 Yes, is only the SE model who have it, Standard version is still as normal in the front and yes, I also think is a little bit more noise, because my ear are closer to the air vent on the shroud.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

@@aashoj Thanks for the info. So our observations are the same :)

[@PeakyBlinder]

That's a beautiful stock

[@gregmcb5305]

Man it’s such a cool system, I love the idea of a hammerless air rifle, do you think they will ever come out with a 357? also a longer air tube and a 32in or so barrel would be nice too haha, it would also have to have the ability to chamber longer pellets and slugs in the chamber of the magazine. Also I’m totally with you on the wood I kinda hate synthesis stocks.

[@johnnyventurino8947]

Great looking gun Greg

[@miroslavkral5406]

Hi Gregor. If you remember the picture I sent you in the email before, the look of the buttstock I made myself for the bullpup version of my GAMO COYOTE are pretty similar in design. Of course this one is nicer made and I like it. BTW I bought an Veyron 4-16x 44 from Huben store and now the gun work and look even better. I wish you all the best. Regards from Zagreb.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Hvala :)

[@edgarmaynard5835]

Just done a google search and cant find a shop in the UK that has this rifle in stock so i dont know how AAR got one But i did find a company that will ship to the UK . But after sorting out my .30 Priest mk1 i love it it is shooting so good i am thinking if to get another one, i am really after a 90 ft lbs air rifle in .25 or .30 But Not a FX

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Newer RTI Prophets have much higher power potential, and if you get the .25 performance version, you should be able to get closer to 90 ft lbs... But don't expect accuracy from JSB pellets in that power :)

[@edgarmaynard5835]

@@gregorkamensek3923 the prophet is a rifle we can get as I have the mk 1 priest I am looking for a rifle that will at least be around the 65 ft lbs probably in .25 cal and be able to shoot slugs.

[@garyjtrek]

Gregor congratulations on your new Hubin and beautiful stock. You have helped me before and I appreciate it. I am having a problem with the trigger not resetting. What are the steps to get the rifle to reset? I have the correct air pressure and shooting 18.3 gr. JSB pellets. This is the first time it would not reset. Thanks

[@thehaze1972]

Nice to see the wood version in some live action! Big thumbs up! The hardcase looks nice but is it really 200 Euro nice? Got some really good results with the 34grain Javelin slugs in .218 at about 1000fps in my 2021 K1 despite being a pellet gun with the current barrel. Would probably be shooting the monster redesign if the BC wasn't that low. 🙂 Any new videos of the Prophet Compact in the pipeline? And have you heard any news from Robert about the baffle system for the Prophet? Regards Hasse

[@taheerkhan7715]

Thanks for the info - was wondering if the javelins would work on the Huben k1 2018 version. Which other pellets/slugs have you tried?

[@thehaze1972]

@@taheerkhan7715The FX hybrid slugs @ 1100fps looks promising too but the only time I went and tried them at the range it was to windy to come to any conclutions Will try all of the H&N and ZAN when I get around to it. 🙂 Did some indoor testning with the ZAN 35gr and it was about as bad as I thought but could still be usable, have to do some further testning with those.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Yes, Compact will be review hopefully soon, RTI is working on some changes and when they are available, I will have a video.

[@lucjanssens1059]

Congrats with your new video, I like it very much! Is it possible to add a silencer on this wooden version? I haven't succeeded so far to remove the end stop of the barrel, with older versions was that no issue.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

I tried to remove it as well but I was not able to. It is possible that it is glued on... I will check possibly till next video.

[@lucjanssens1059]

@@gregorkamensek3923 Thanks for your effort! I had the same suspicion like you.

[@allanwind295]

Cough cough... Galahad :-) Agree that your K1 special edition is beautiful and I am happy for you, buddy. €509 more than the plastic stock seems like a lot though. The fixed magazine on the K1 is the main sticky point for me. For what I use an air rifle for there is just too much utility in being able to reload in a few seconds.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

I understand you aspect...

[@eyesintheskies]

I have the kalibrgun ocelot (pistol) it’s super accurate. The Czech Republic seem to be producing some awesome airguns. Have you heard of AGT? Currently saving for the Agt Vulcan 3 bull pup (long) they have really nice stocks. Hopefully I get lucky with some nice wood grain 🍀🤞

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Yes, Czech airguns are definitely top class. I had my eye on Vulcan 3 for a while now...

[@eyesintheskies]

@@gregorkamensek3923 ok 👍 I know I'm making a good choice if you with all your engineering /airgun knowledge have been thinking about it . I'm just really impressed with the way they've made the giant power plenum. Mainly because it's simple enough I can understand how it works!!! Thanks for the reply.👍

[@eyesintheskies]

The wood will look even nicer after you oil it 👍

[@DK-TechCorner]

Great review Gregor :-) do you happen to know if the new chinese 2021/V5 barrel is choked or not, how many grooves and designed for slugs etc? :-)

[@gregorkamensek3923]

The barrel is unchocked. I put information about the barrel specs in this very video (8:05) :)

[@DK-TechCorner]

Thanks Gregor, listened to it a month ago and forgot that you told about the grooves, twist etc, just got this K1 a few weeks ago and waiting for some .218 H&N and NSA to arrive :-) Seems like some has success with .2175 and some with .218, and if they are with drivebands it seems to be a .0005 higher :-)

[@DK-TechCorner]

And BTW I had good success with H&N Baracuda Match 21.14 grs pellets :-)

[@DK-TechCorner]

And now also JSB Heavy at 1050 fps :-)

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

Wow 👏 awesome air gun man... I want my next gun to be a semi auto this might be the gun thanks for sharing bsafe buddy

[@gregorkamensek3923]

:)

[@jeroenakkerdaas75]

Hi Gregor, what about ZAN .253? Ik shoot them in my 2022 K1. Still experimenting with settings though. It seems the K1 likes somewhat bigger diameter ammo, and Huben recommends these too. Do you have any thoughts and or tips?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Hello. I tried those. They are OK accuracy wise but not exceptional. So far, I have not seen any slug that would perform as good as a pellet in .25 K1. In general, no swaged "standard slug worked well in and K1 so far. It partially has to do with the size and probably even more with the fact they are too soft and they create lead fouling in the barrel...

[@PeakyBlinder]

What a beautiful house.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Thanks :) My father built this house based on the original traditional houses here that go back 200 + years. He will be very happy to know that you complimented it :)

[@PeakyBlinder]

@@gregorkamensek3923 it is amazing, he did very well and such a beautiful location.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

@@PeakyBlinder Thanks. He was borne there. The old house was only slightly larger and there was 12 children + parents living inside :) Very different times...

[@PeakyBlinder]

@@gregorkamensek3923 wow, he was a busy man then lol. Bet it was so much fun growing up there, we were always in the woods as children, but that was in the early 70s.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

@@PeakyBlinder Yes, definitely... Even my childhood was pre computer/smart phone area and I was outside all the time. Now when I punish my daughters, I send them outside :)

[@eyesintheskies]

How have you found the k1 for reliability? seems like it would be hard to work on at home. Is there more to go wrong than a traditional type or is it actually simpler?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

It if definitely more complex than with conventional valve type PCPs...

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Reliability in my case is quite OK, occasional leak, the hardest problem is finding the leak...

[@eyesintheskies]

@@gregorkamensek3923 unfortunately I find those complicated enough would like to learn but I'm limited to sub 12ftlb and don't trust myself with not been tempted to see max power is like! Impressive skills mate 👍

[@gregorkamensek3923]

@@eyesintheskies I completely understand. I would not get this gun either if I was limited to 12ftlb because it is an overpowered design for what it would be used for in the end.

[@eyesintheskies]

@@gregorkamensek3923 you are right, and I would most likely end up trying it at full power and good easily get in a lot of trouble for it. Might have to move somewhere with less strict laws. What country do you live in? The woodlands around your home look beautiful !

[@luisdrump3063]

Vielen Dank für die Information. Welche Einstellungen und Slugs empfehlen Sie bei 100 m Distanz. Cal 22. Alles Gute .

[@luisdrump3063]

Thank you for the information. What settings and slugs do you recommend at 100 m distance. Cal 22. All the best .

[@gregorkamensek3923]

I will cover this in the following videos when I test as much slugs as possible...

[@nonahoona830]

احسن بندقية هوائية شكل جميل و قوة

[@danhenry8557]

Hello Gregor I was wondering what your opinion of the FX STX superior heavy duty 700mm barrel if I can modify this to work in the Huben K1 2020 .25 cal. would this resolve the slug accuracy issues?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Probably not, I explained this few times in comments before... It would also be quite difficult to adapt the barrel to fit the gun.

[@Steve-wz5pz]

Hey, the BSA Defiant looks all right. Too heavy, but good looking.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Yes, you are right. My example was based on BSA Galahad :)

[@luisdrump3063]

How do you convert the K1 to 100 joules? Is there a video or instructions? Thanks for the info.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

I assume you are referring to the state of the new gun when you receive it (at least in Europe). Two things you need to do: There is rubber inside the regulator allen key hole that prevents you inserting allen key in it. You have to remove it to be able to insert allen key and adjust the regulator. Second is the power wheel. The power wheel comes without the round part for indexing (you get this part with the gun, it is round part in a shape of a coin). You have to install that part in the power wheel...

[@ArtieGlock]

How is the stock removed now if there is no cross pin that has to be driven out?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

There is a screw on the bottom of the stock... about the same position as the pin is on the synthetic stock.

[@ArtieGlock]

@@gregorkamensek3923 Thank you, Gregor!

[@-Ricochet-]

Is it possible to remove the shroud without removing the stock or other disassembly?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Yes, of course. You can loosen the two screw at that rear shroud clamp and remove the screw on the front clamp (both under the rail)... The you can just pull it to the front and remove it.

[@-Ricochet-]

@@gregorkamensek3923 Perfect. Thanks. Will make cleaning etc much easier 🙂

[@AboLailaAlmohalhil]

Some info to consider, Barrel twist rate is 1/17.7 It shoots .218 slugs extremely well, you have to clean the barrel every now and then though. It shoots most pellets fine. Here are two videos about the new huben. Though in Arabic, I added English captions and hopefully everything is clear: Part 1 / kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4fVdaKhor5jmNk Part 2 / kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3KmoYCPn6qsnck

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Thanks. It is my intention to try a bunch of slug, .218 are majority of them...

[@DK-TechCorner]

Great videos AboLaila, what kind of .218 did you have success with? :-)

[@AboLailaAlmohalhil]

@@DK-TechCorner Thanks NSA 28.5 shoots great

[@DK-TechCorner]

@@AboLailaAlmohalhil Yes that looks perfect :-) your K1 is also a 2021 / V5? at what pressure did you get it operate that well? :-)

[@AboLailaAlmohalhil]

@@DK-TechCorner it is 2021 and I think it is V5. The reg is set at 160 bars. and I found that the best velocity to get it accurate is at around 1000 fps.

[@jonathanfeatherston758]

Desperate for help here... Has anyone ever experienced a Huben 2021 that is just utterly inefficient with shot count. I got mine recently. it's been stripped apart so many times already. Jams and i once shot below 100 because I didn't realise it was going through air like crazy. But that's not my problem. Mine will only do about 6-8 shots from 350 to 200bar! I've measured it use about 50bar or 5Mbar in one shot! Sounds like a 22lr! KE on that shot was about 70 foot pounds. I NEED it up at high power with slugs - preferably. Currently using JSB jumbo beasts at 58 foot pounds with reg at 135 and power wheel around 15 clicks from max. This seems to be the advice for efficiency. But I've had it at say 15 clicks up from the bottom with reg at ±160 and it does the same. 6 shots! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Set the regulator to 180 - 190 bars. Then reduce the power wheel until the gun gets quieter... that will indicate that you are not waiting air.

[@ebrahimahmad8352]

Hi, I have a huben air rifle, but which bullet should I use to aim at 150 meters?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

I would need more information, caliber, what version (make year) what barrel does it have,...

[@empedrai]

.22 / 2020 / regular Barrel? 😉

[@ebrahimahmad8352]

@@gregorkamensek3923 Caliber 5.5 barrel length 56 cm version 2021 slugs 22 gr fx hybrid and jsb 33 gr

[@Scott-cu4ol]

what scope are you using on it?

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Vectror optics Veyron 6-24x44 FFP

[@edgarmaynard5835]

Don't think i can get this rifle in the UK , Too many rifle we just cant get

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Hm, don't know if this is true, Andy form AAR reviewed it... I believe it is not considered "self loading" because it shoots form the magazine. You might wanna check this...

[@anilkushwah-wx2js]

इसकी रेंज क्या है

[@heatherchandler4295]

So how do i get one???

[@gregorkamensek3923]

www.hubenairguns.shop/products/huben-k1-2021-special-edition www.hubenairguns.shop/products/huben-k1-2021-special-edition-cal-25-6-35-mm

[@_miranHorvat]

Now you get the lead dust directly into your face.

[@gregorkamensek3923]

Luckily they are not that far back :)

[@pakkkpakkk7799]

ยากได้จัง

[@luisdrump3063]

OK.