Climate Tipping Points in Oceans, Ice, Forests - Myles Allen

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Gresham College

Gresham College

2 ай бұрын

The impacts of climate change that probably worry people the most are irreversible changes that affect the entire world, such as a collapse of the west Antarctic ice sheet, shutdown of the global thermohaline circulation, loss of the Amazon biome, or a melting of Arctic permafrost.
Sudden, unpredictable and irreversible changes can happen in response to a gradual warming. What is known about these risks at 1.5°C, 2°C and higher levels of warming?
This lecture was recorded by Myles Allen on 5th March 2024 at Barnard's Inn Hall, London
Myles is the Frank Jackson Foundation Professor of the Environment.
He has contributed extensively to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), including as Coordinating Lead Author for the 2018 IPCC Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5°C. He has published extensively on how human and natural influences on climate contribute to observed climate change and extreme weather risk, and the implications for adaptation and mitigation policy.
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@dereknewbury163
@dereknewbury163 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for such an accessible (for a non-physicist) presentation. Look forward to the next one.
@sixvee5147
@sixvee5147 Ай бұрын
“I accepted to come to this meeting to have a sober and mature conversation. I’m not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist. There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says that the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5C.” - Sultan Al Jaber, President of COP 28, also CEO of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company Mukhtar Babayev will be the president for COP 29; he is also a former executive of the State Oil Company of Azerbaijian Republic. Seems more and more likely, scenario SSP5-8.5 of the IPCC assessment may come to fruition (or at least the higher end of the spectrum). I say enjoy what you can, while you still can; pity the generations to come.
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 24 күн бұрын
Humans have a propensity toward alarmism. People have been predicting the end of the world my entire life. The reality, continuously proven by data, is that we've never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history. What's really remarkable, is over the last 200 years of warming and rising CO2, this trend has accelerated. Your kids and grand kids are going to lead a life you could barely dream about.
@hg6996
@hg6996 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the geophysical explanation; I didn't know that before.
@dancooper8551
@dancooper8551 2 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation! Wish I could be as optimistic as Myles.
@jamesgreig5168
@jamesgreig5168 Ай бұрын
Our beautiful planet is in the vest shape it's ever being and people have been spooked by science. The limited science we have or can use is like expecting a 2 year old to diagnose a serious health condition.
@martiansoon9092
@martiansoon9092 2 ай бұрын
@58:30 Yea, likelihood of wars rises when natural resources like food and water dwindles. Losing coral reefs means 1 billion people are our of job and food. That amount of people that are seeking something else will make many areas unstable. Places where sea level rise wil hit are yet another. Already in Florida people are starting to see this and they are migrating away. Mass migration from dried conditions in Africa and Central America has pushed people away. And have created multiple conflicts. And are rising hatred against refugees. If things go wrong we may even accelerate our own doom by starting nuclear war over climate driven issues.
@RonGreeneComedian
@RonGreeneComedian 2 ай бұрын
Florida is losing people? 😂
@martiansoon9092
@martiansoon9092 2 ай бұрын
@@RonGreeneComedian That's what I have red. Also it would be wise thing to do within decadal timescale. Sunnyday flooding has been an issue in some parts of Florida for some years now.
@BillyTheKidCENTURION
@BillyTheKidCENTURION 2 ай бұрын
There has been no loss of coral reefs, African droughts were worse in the 1980s. Mass migration is because of an agenda. Hello climate bot:)
@huntera123
@huntera123 2 ай бұрын
How effing illiterate one has to be to think coral reefs are dying due to CO2. Factually, the GBR is booming.
@kurtklingbeil6900
@kurtklingbeil6900 2 ай бұрын
"we" won't be starting any nuclear wars It is important to always keep in mind that the current crop of interest-conflicted influence-peddlers who infest governance structures and the predatory-parasitic psychosociopathic corpiratist executives are in no sense "we"
@MrAlhaines
@MrAlhaines 2 ай бұрын
last month was the hottest on record here in Florida
@Trygvar13
@Trygvar13 2 ай бұрын
I'm from Canada and this year in some parts we had almost no snow. We had our biggest snowstorm on Saturday and we barely got 15cm. The day after the temperature increased to 9C and it was all gone. Where is the snow that we used to get? We used to get several days a year below -40C and several weeks below -20C but it never got below -20C even once this year.
@peterc2248
@peterc2248 2 ай бұрын
@@Trygvar13 I am more than happy to accept that climate is changing as in my 60 years of life I, like you, have seen it. What I am less convinced about is a) that the change is 'entirely' down to human influence (although it undoubtedly is to some extent) and b) that we can actually do much about it. Yes, we are technologically adept species but we operate within natural cycles and timeframes that are immensely bigger and longer than the very, very, very brief time we have been around in our modern form. In my view, we are just one of very many species that have evolved and died out repeatedly over the eons and I can't see much stopping that process continuing. Our technological capability - while amazing - has developed untempered by reflective thought. Like a child in a candystore our species has given in to greed and avarice and cannot change. The fact that just the other week our 'leaders' advocated further bloodshed based on arbitrary religious and tribal boundaries demonstrates our true nature. No I think we will continue to delude ourselves that we are taking action while the planet goes about it's business as it has for 4.5 billion years without us.
@scottingram580
@scottingram580 2 ай бұрын
Records of temperature only go back around 150yrs on a planet that's millions of years old, records are ridiculous
@badhombre4942
@badhombre4942 2 ай бұрын
​@@Trygvar13 Oh no, it only snowed a bit where I am, so Globull Warming.
@socratesrocks1513
@socratesrocks1513 2 ай бұрын
@MrAlhaines "last month was the hottest on record here in Florida" Nope. Hottest temp. ever in Florida was June 29, 1931 (108 °F (42.2 °C)). Unless they 'corrected' the temperature records again to make the past look cooler than it was. The satellites, unaffected by urban sprawl which MASSIVELY inflates the temps of ground based measurements, do not show you beat that one.
@arminvauk578
@arminvauk578 Ай бұрын
Very clear præsentation. Perhaps I missed it, but I would have liket to hear a word on the recent Dithlevsen/Dithlevsen article on the AMOC.
@lancechapman3070
@lancechapman3070 2 ай бұрын
Unhelpful does not mean incorrect. We can still help, it is too late to stop!
@tomzukouski6041
@tomzukouski6041 2 ай бұрын
And it has been for the last 20 thousand or more years!...back then the ice was a mile thick over chicago.
@BertWald-wp9pz
@BertWald-wp9pz 2 ай бұрын
Myles Allen is always very clear. So the ocean overturning is slowed by more rain towards the poles. The rain must be drawn from more southerly oceans for this to be an issue. Clearly as warm air travels north it reaches a due point after which there is no more precipitation. So the question is how far on average the moist air travels. If the overturning takes place and the weather cools then the due point will move south again. Has the possibility of a self regulating system been eliminated from the range of possibilities? Also less rain in the Amazon which is Tropical. How does this square with increased tropical evaporation going to the poles? Next question: If moist air is moving to different locations do the ocean currents affect the wind - trade winds and so on? My guess is yes. To my mind still more work to be done on all this.
@kurtklingbeil6900
@kurtklingbeil6900 2 ай бұрын
At what hubris index does one's personal casual unskilled speculations override the detailed examination of someone with expertise and experience in the minutiae of doing the science ? Or.... On another tack... At a general level, when you encounter information, you can choose to classify it on your plausibility spectrum ... From definitely wrong, through most likely wrong through the seesaw zone to the "cointoss" pivot and then through most likely correct through to definitely correct... based on various criteria Diving into the details and purporting to critique the minutiae of mechanisms one can only speculate upon requires a degree of rigour and specific knowledge bolstered by evidence. If one's entire "analysis critique" is speculative, it is best to place the onus on oneself to fill in the blanks rather than the researcher one is purporting to "critique". (and at the very minimum, to communicate ones "work" directly to the researcher)
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature Ай бұрын
If you look up videos by the late Professor Steven Salter, he discusses these matters. In the context of marine cloud brightening - an interesting idea, proposing spraying salt water mist, the salt acts as nucleation for cloud formation. He and colleagues did simulations of moisture flow. His proposed solution would reduce precipitation over the oceans and increase it over land.
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature Ай бұрын
@@fullmontyuk Are those problems worse than doing nothing? We have stark choices to be made.
@jamesgreig5168
@jamesgreig5168 Ай бұрын
​@@fullmontyukmost of what you said is sound, but you started with a huge error. The Arctic has had a couple of REALLY COLD months and sea ice is pretty much back to average levels. (You must have missed it).
@jamesgreig5168
@jamesgreig5168 Ай бұрын
​​@@kurtklingbeil6900love your response. Using clumsy language to make you appear highly intelligent. Starting with 2 incorrect concepts really affected how I read the rest of your response. Sorry I did read all if it. It was utter ######!!
@keithw8286
@keithw8286 2 ай бұрын
Opening sentence, “ net zero “ was mentioned. That recent, duplicitous phrase that can mean anything you want because it’s effectively dishonest accounting. Great start. Watching and waiting for redemption.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 2 ай бұрын
Al Gore won a prize predicting end of Artic ice by ten yrs ago. End hasn't even begun.
@antonyjh1234
@antonyjh1234 2 ай бұрын
Net Zero, don't create more emissions than the earth can absorb/decays.
@tiffmeek
@tiffmeek 2 ай бұрын
You could say that about the term "profit". Doesn't change the fact that the word profit has a definition.
@huntera123
@huntera123 2 ай бұрын
Net zero is a scam. Tipping points are as well. Physicists can be as deceptive as anyone else.
@jonovens7974
@jonovens7974 2 ай бұрын
@@antonyjh1234 Not increasing emissions year on year would be a start.
@johncoleman3073
@johncoleman3073 18 күн бұрын
Tipping points are a reason to accelerate action because they are unpredictable and can cause the system to be unreliable.
@bobdooly3706
@bobdooly3706 Ай бұрын
Planet Earth is suspended in Space where the temperature is minus 273 degrees Celsius . The world remains in an Ice Age .❤
@l3eatalphal3eatalpha
@l3eatalphal3eatalpha Ай бұрын
Obviously not a Sun worshipper.
@jamesgreig5168
@jamesgreig5168 Ай бұрын
Having watched most of the video, hoping he would come up with some concrete data, I discovered that this entire presentation was simply demonstrating the futility of hypothetical conjecture with very little data to support his ideas. Net result, the concept of tipping points appears like utter nonsense. He's simply not factoring in that Mother Earth has her own protection mechanisms that, as has been displayed over millennia, rights wrongs very efficiently. Just look at the last 25 years, extra co2, slightly warmer and Earth has decided to grow her green cover by close to 20%. That is, an area greater than the entire United States, of extra green space helping the equilibrium situation. I have faith in our Earth more than theoretical scientists, but, we still need these scientists for our development of our knowledge.
@user-uu8wh9du1d
@user-uu8wh9du1d 2 ай бұрын
Surprisingly, i remember something dimly from old lectures.
@rvdb8876
@rvdb8876 8 күн бұрын
SEARCH FOR: "Semantic Scholar Glacier and lake-level variations in west-central Europe over the last 3500 years". During Roman times there were virtually no glaciers in the Alps, while in 1859/60 they reached their maximum size of the past 3500 years thanks to the Little Ice Age.
@MeTheRob
@MeTheRob 2 ай бұрын
Greetings from Scotland. Snow overnight, lasting into the morning. The bus and cars couldn't get up the hill. Heavy sleet / rain in the afternoon. But that'a just weather isn't it ?
@Diamonddavej
@Diamonddavej 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it's weather, not climate. Climate is a large scale long term trend in the averages over many years that can weaken ocean currents, melt ice caps, raise sea levels, shift an entire climate zones, cause raging forest fires from Russia to Canada, dry out the Amazon jungle and turn it into scrub. Climate change is not a single day's weather report to from your door step. Scotland covers 0.015% of the Planet (77,940 / 510 million square kilometres). This small spot is not representative of the planet. Even in the middle of the Last Ice Age, roaming herds of Mammoth hunted by our ancestors (the Gravettians) experienced a few days or weeks of warm summer weather each year, may be even a heatwave, in their little patch of western Siberia. A few days of exceptionally warm weather didn't contradict the fact there were in the middle of an Ice Age and Scotland was buried under a mile of ice. What matters is the large scale and long term climate conditions, not a sunny summer's day in Siberia 27,000 years ago or a cold today outside your font door.
@user-pt5pd6on3e
@user-pt5pd6on3e 2 ай бұрын
What about the effect of the increase in water distillation and the increase of salinity in the waters around the coasts especially in the Mediterranean?
@seewhatifound
@seewhatifound 2 ай бұрын
At one time the poles had no ice
@paxwallace8324
@paxwallace8324 2 ай бұрын
Sorry but pretty dumb comment. For one thing we built our agricultural infrastructure based on a planet where the rainfall patterns, mean average temperatures, and climate stability are determined by an Arctic with multi-year ice! Not to mention the danger this poses to habitat stability world wide. We've opened Pandora's Box through sheer greed and arrogance.
@seewhatifound
@seewhatifound 2 ай бұрын
@@paxwallace8324 Clearly you know little about the real history of the earth, you'll probably deny it was 8C warmer than today and plant life was in abundance. Agriculture started well before thermometers existed. Many things affect climate stability including the activity of the sun, heat islands where most temperatures are taken today even if they were used 100 years ago would be higher today in those vastly inhabited cities that continue to grow and put false readings when you come to temperature averages .
@tonycollyweston6182
@tonycollyweston6182 2 ай бұрын
​@@seewhatifoundyou obviously demonstrate great insight, nearly that of Mr trump.
@seewhatifound
@seewhatifound 2 ай бұрын
@@tonycollyweston6182 Are you part of the money game ?
@wowplayer7986
@wowplayer7986 2 ай бұрын
Could we harvest the melt water? Build water pipelines to some of the major reservoirs? Would that reduce some of the sea Ievel rise and other issue's? Such as temperature, current and salinization levels? I know that it sounds like a nearly impossible feat with logistics and cost but I would say that our survival is priceless.
@tikaanipippin
@tikaanipippin 2 ай бұрын
Dense, supercool highly saline water comes from beneath the ice sheet. There are wonderful videos of the effects of dense supercooled water sinking to the polar ocean floor and instantly freezing the numerous animals on the ocean floor. Polar precipitation leads to dilute low density surface water which freezes more readily as the semiannual polar winter progresses. Thank heavens we do not live on a planet that runs on models, but instead runs on physics, and unpredictable chaos.
@dreinhard52
@dreinhard52 2 ай бұрын
Is starting off at 1900 a mere 100 yrs , just a blink ?
@TennesseeJed
@TennesseeJed 4 күн бұрын
We will change our society, ideology and economic theology in time to avoid anything catastrophic. It'll be fine just keep shopping!
@scasey1960
@scasey1960 Ай бұрын
If you don’t believe in climate change, please relay your opinions to your children & grandchildren. They will hold you accountable in the decades ahead as the consequences for climate change become an unavoidable reality.
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 24 күн бұрын
The endless climate mantra: "Just you wait, it's going to be bad, you'll see". Repeat decade after decade in perpetuity.
@user-in9yx7mf8d
@user-in9yx7mf8d Күн бұрын
You got to give kudos to the climate change deniers doing all their modeling from their mother’s basements. It’s that kind of initiative that’ll pull us out of this sticky wicket!
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 Күн бұрын
@@user-in9yx7mf8d In contrast, one should never give kudos to climate zealots who never formulate an argument and instead solely rely on personal attacks and insults.
@user-in9yx7mf8d
@user-in9yx7mf8d Күн бұрын
@@anthonymorris5084 Don’t worry too much about them, they are irrelevant now, and will be forgotten soon enough
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 Күн бұрын
@@user-in9yx7mf8d You just contradicted yourself.
@michaelvandenheuvel317
@michaelvandenheuvel317 2 ай бұрын
Stage lights up!
@SixSigmaPi
@SixSigmaPi 2 ай бұрын
Sorry to point out another error, but modern geological thinking has the drainage of Lake Agassiz as causing the 8.2 event at 8,200 years ago rather than the Younger Dryas. This might actually help your argument as no AMOC collapse occurred at that point. The 'recent' AMOC switches relate to the DO events within the glaciation period.
@stokepusher5481
@stokepusher5481 2 ай бұрын
We have time to act, but not time to waste. Also I think we can mitigate the worsening of it in general, but 'fix it', is idealistic. We can make the best of a bad situation, by trying to do our best, but we can't return to a 'fix' of how it was before carbon. So let's make the best go of it, for what it's worth in regards of that, and not give out/give up
@peterbecskei
@peterbecskei 2 ай бұрын
0.8 Celsius / 50 year... It is un unmeasurable...
@peterbecskei
@peterbecskei 2 ай бұрын
​ @fullmontyuk Ok. What was the average global temperature in 2022? (not model estimation)
@kevinhank17
@kevinhank17 2 ай бұрын
​@@peterbecskeiwhy don't you google it?
@gitmoholliday5764
@gitmoholliday5764 2 ай бұрын
even if it would get colder there is a natural max to the height a glacier can reach, if it grows to much it will collapse and push itself to the ocean.. all due to gravitation and the properties of polar ice.
@woodchipgardens9084
@woodchipgardens9084 2 ай бұрын
How can you stop night time freezing, nobody explains this.
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv 2 ай бұрын
More co2
@woodchipgardens9084
@woodchipgardens9084 2 ай бұрын
@@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv No, you need wild fires to melt glaciers.
@yancgc5098
@yancgc5098 2 ай бұрын
@@woodchipgardens9084 And wildfire produce CO2, so the answer is more CO2
@woodchipgardens9084
@woodchipgardens9084 2 ай бұрын
@@yancgc5098 Westerly Winds push the Beaufort Gyre in a clockwise rotation draining the Sea ice into Siberia and the Atlantic, if you change to Counter Clockwise Rotation the ice goes to the Bearing Strait and Southwest Greenland Glaciers. It's all Natural, Study Physics and Weather Patterns not Scam Studies.
@woodchipgardens9084
@woodchipgardens9084 2 ай бұрын
@@yancgc5098 How can you have a Tipping Point if Heat is always Temporary, Night Time is always cooling, Winter is always freezing, No Tipping Point Possible.
@helenhenthorn4948
@helenhenthorn4948 2 ай бұрын
Nature is not linear, nor are tipping points, and graphs are full of squiggly lines as global heating is definitely moving at an accelerating rate and we are already beyond the 1.5 C. This discussion is behind the science and times, particularly if you consider aerosol masking and earths energy imbalance.
@jonovens7974
@jonovens7974 2 ай бұрын
And you also have to consider that globally we are still increasing co2 emissions year on year.
@woodchipgardens9084
@woodchipgardens9084 2 ай бұрын
How can you have a Tipping Point if Heat is always Temporary, Night Time is always cooling, Winter is always freezing, No Tipping Point Possible.
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg Ай бұрын
Maybe if heat builds up to the point where water stops freezing.
@woodchipgardens9084
@woodchipgardens9084 Ай бұрын
@@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg wont happen until we are all dead.
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards Ай бұрын
It's like you don't know that 70% of the planet's surface is covered in water.
@arnoldvankampen3672
@arnoldvankampen3672 2 ай бұрын
Let the war industry with their nifty machinery turn to geo-engineering in the heavens.
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature Ай бұрын
Except that William Happer has calculated that CO2 is significantly non-linear: he states that doubling CO2 will not double its contribution to temperature rise. If Happer is correct, why do the models show a linear temperature rise?
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards Ай бұрын
Maybe you don't really understand Happer, and maybe Happer himself is just a tool or not an honest actor.
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature Ай бұрын
@@TheDanEdwards Name calling and accusations will not solve this problem that we all face. Happer appears to be logical in his arguments. He does not deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. He does state that most of its heating effect is at low concentrations, with much less increase at higher ppm concentrations. His point is that doubling CO2 from 400 ppm to 800 ppm would increase its heating effect, but only marginally. My suspicion is that he is only looking at CO2 and its effect on radiant flux, and not considering other factors such as positive feedback loops.
@nigelkingify
@nigelkingify Ай бұрын
CO2 has already achieved most of what it is going to achieve. A doubling of CO2 now does not make very much difference.
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 24 күн бұрын
Agreed, other than it will continue to make the planet even greener.
@BudIsland
@BudIsland 19 күн бұрын
Precursors to the upcoming ice age
@jamesgreig5168
@jamesgreig5168 Ай бұрын
I lasted 11 minutes into this program and decided he's going nowhere. We all know how inaccurate these models are so using them as key discussion points irks me. Secondly, he said he's already shown how the CO2 changes are causing warming. Yeah right. We all know historically that CO2 levels rise following warming. Lastly, he appears to completely ignore key factors outside of CO2. Seems very limited to me. Please let me know if he addresses these issues later in his speech and I'll watch it later. Just spent an hour listening to Prof Dilley at a Tom Nelson podcast so I'm now feeling I'm at a tipping (or is that sleeping point?!) Dilley was brilliant with the graphs, data and ideas he covered. Thoroughly recommend viewing it.
@huntera123
@huntera123 2 ай бұрын
The circular reasoning offered by the speaker is insultingly shallow.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 ай бұрын
how is reasoning not circular? You mean Godel's Incompleteness Theorem is wrong?
@janebrown7231
@janebrown7231 7 күн бұрын
Bravely said. 👍
@richdiana3663
@richdiana3663 2 ай бұрын
I'm not Doomer, I'm a Doomalist.
@tedwalford7615
@tedwalford7615 2 ай бұрын
We need more warming. It would be wrong to try to stop it. Our current climate is what we're used to but is hardly optimal.
@swiftlytiltingplanet8481
@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 2 ай бұрын
Tell that to the residents of Phoenix, who suffered through 31 straight days above 110 degrees last summer. Growing crops at that temperature is not possible as all photosythesis STOPS at 104 degrees, and many seeds won't even germinate. Think of other places like Phoenix around the world, and especially the over one billion people who still struggle to make a living with subsistence farming.
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR 19 күн бұрын
Interesting science but a painful delivery.
@mawkernewek
@mawkernewek 2 ай бұрын
5:20 ah, those Grauniad yellow labels, warning the reader to check whether we are currently at war with Eurasia or Eastasia right now, and that the article may not follow the most up to date form of Newspeak.
@SPLITSLEEVE
@SPLITSLEEVE 2 ай бұрын
1.During Roman times the earth was as warm as today. temperature anomaly .1 2. During the dark ages, the world became colder temperature anomaly -.4 3. Medieval ages 1000 years ago temperature anomaly .2 4. Little ice age 1700 temperature anomaly -.7 5. Today temperature anomaly .1 From Climate The movie
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards Ай бұрын
"Climate The movie"
@abelgarcia5432
@abelgarcia5432 2 ай бұрын
Every time I see a sub surfacing in the Arctic I see plenty of thick ice and cold temperatures are reported so it makes me wonder if the people who say the place is melting are in a nice air conditioned office in NYC!
@mareewalks1238
@mareewalks1238 2 ай бұрын
It's colder in some places due to the amoc slowing down, less mixing of tropical and artic, Paul Beckworth recently did a vid on it.
@tiffmeek
@tiffmeek 2 ай бұрын
If the arctic matched your imagination we'd be in serious trouble. Sounds like you need to actually watch the videos.
@maartenvandam344
@maartenvandam344 2 ай бұрын
Listen to what Dr. Peter Wadhams has to say on the topic. He's been on expeditions under the North Pole ice cap in British submarines regularly since the 1970s. We have satellites that take pictures of the ice cap, and we can see it shrinking. The water gets warmer, the ice melts. Not rocket surgery.
@abelgarcia5432
@abelgarcia5432 2 ай бұрын
@@tiffmeek I saw the video of a sub surfacing in the Arctic
@tiffmeek
@tiffmeek 2 ай бұрын
@@abelgarcia5432And?
@peterbecskei
@peterbecskei 2 ай бұрын
coral reef recovered 2022
@dreinhard52
@dreinhard52 2 ай бұрын
Is your argument about crying wolf to often ?
@josa9902
@josa9902 2 ай бұрын
Seems to be a lot of "coulds" in this message.
@5353Jumper
@5353Jumper 2 ай бұрын
Because science almost never talks in absolutes, but probabilities. Allowing for further research and future correction.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 ай бұрын
just how many "coulds" does "seems" mean? I don't believe you. An accusation with no evidence is a false accusation.
@iancormie9916
@iancormie9916 29 күн бұрын
The first Gresham lecture I disagree with. The temperature data for rural locations, which are not affected by heat island effect, are much lower than average temperature figures that are used by the alarmist crowd. One must also note that temperatures are higher in the Roman Warm Period and 1000 years ago than they are today. I also think that we need a buffer between the ice age CO2 counts and current values.
@davidgriffiths2069
@davidgriffiths2069 2 ай бұрын
20,000 years ago where Lake Erie is currently located the ice was up to a mile thick, it reached south nearly to the Ohio River.. The Earth's population was estimated to be 5 million hunter gathers, their main fuel was wood. How did that ice melt in a blink of Geologic Time? Asking for a friend.
@SmokeGray
@SmokeGray 2 ай бұрын
Your friend must be assuming that earth’s climate oscillates wildly between glacial maximums and glacial minimums.
@thetombaxter
@thetombaxter 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for proving the Ice Age never ended even over geologic time and the ice that covered Lake Erie was among the last bit that survived the Milankovitch Cycle and was washed out to sea as many other ice mountains.
@nunofoo8620
@nunofoo8620 2 ай бұрын
"How did that ice melt in a blink of Geologic Time? " It's a secret. A secret as in it's taught in basic science classes all over the world, right along with anthropogenic climate change.
@DanielWatson-vv7cd
@DanielWatson-vv7cd 2 ай бұрын
Polar ice melting gives us the opportunity to explore new territories and search for more resources.
@TheJgibbons
@TheJgibbons 2 ай бұрын
AMOC is most likely the last tipping point to take effect and therefore the least worrisome of them all. By the time the AMOC collapses we will be long gone. Consideration of habitat, food production and the heat stresses on all species are much more valuable studies of climate change than the circulation of the oceans. Now if you want to talk about fish die off, I would take your lectures more seriously.
@user-ol2mr4bx7c
@user-ol2mr4bx7c 2 ай бұрын
How are people like Randall Carlson so sure about what he thinks about climate change as opposed to this guy? Does Randall Carlson know something this guy doesn't or vice versa?
@user-ol2mr4bx7c
@user-ol2mr4bx7c 2 ай бұрын
@@fullmontyuk but Randall tends to always have a paper from Google scholar up to support all his stuff. This guy and Randall both seem so right and legit 🤔
@derdunkle8999
@derdunkle8999 2 ай бұрын
I don't know Randall Carlson but normally the people who know most about a topic are less sure about their knowlege compared to people who just know a little more than the basics. The experts now that there is much more to learn.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 ай бұрын
Try to remember that truth is a popularity contest! If some clueless dude is promoted well enough then I encourage you to follow him full on. that's how the interwebs works.
@tedblu14
@tedblu14 2 ай бұрын
You are correct, Tony Blair did use hyperbolic language. These last 17 years could have been used to really pump up the global temperature and not scream about the encroaching disaster. As a lifeguard, i wait for the swimmer to be unreachable and beyond saving before I raise the alarm.
@stuart940
@stuart940 2 ай бұрын
if you wait till then the swimmer will be dead. this is the whole argument to be pro active with clmate change
@NikkiTrudelle
@NikkiTrudelle 2 ай бұрын
When it comes to being carbon neutral the world needs to help islands like hawaii with their old vehicles. Right now people tend to burn old vehicles because that’s the only way they can get the junker towed by the government to be disposed. Thousands of island cars just bursting into flames. Sad that there’s no other alternative for people. As well there are tons of old cars with gaskets that no longer can keep oil from leaking out of the car.
@louisjimenez9218
@louisjimenez9218 Ай бұрын
It's Solar System change. The Sun is what drives the whole change.
@danstokes5937
@danstokes5937 2 ай бұрын
Watch: climate the movie "the cold truth"
@richdiana3663
@richdiana3663 2 ай бұрын
I'm not worried about tipping points. They're all going exponential much sooner than expected. Like most aspects of the climate crisis.
@thetombaxter
@thetombaxter 2 ай бұрын
As green house gases continue to accumulate, and the world warms, borel forests will increase burn rates and spread soot over the Arctic, and as the Arctic Ocean warms methyl hydrides, and other organics bound in permafrost will release more CO2, and CH4, and will lead to positive feed back.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 2 ай бұрын
We must have hit a dozen tipping points 12 to 13k yrs ago when the climate was changing 100X faster than now. Or even some during Roman Warm Period and Medieval Warm Period, both warmer than today and within the written record. All this anthropogenic alarmism is BS, the climate has been devastating for the last 2.5M yrs.
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully the firse start soon. I think theyer still down by one by maybe 10 fold from what they were and its messing up many northern Forrests. The tree line is still a hundred miles north or more from before the 1600s
@huntera123
@huntera123 2 ай бұрын
Made up ignorant gibberish.
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv 2 ай бұрын
@@fullmontyuk oh lol. Usgs and noaa must've messed up. Drive up and check out the tree line yourself . Also, check the wildire stats
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv 2 ай бұрын
@@fullmontyuk wildfires are used constantly as a strawman argument for agw. I think it's very relevant to point that out. But you could also say the same argument for the majority or the world's weather stations . Only NA and Europe had enough of them .
@gphilipc2031
@gphilipc2031 27 күн бұрын
Hey SCHIT ... if it's all over , it's all over.
@amcreative3784
@amcreative3784 Ай бұрын
All those straws.
@-LightningRod-
@-LightningRod- 2 ай бұрын
" i do remind people, that less than the what we paid for gas lasy year less than the profits everbody made of gas we all paid for gas we could have captured it all the CO2 it generated up and put in under the north sea twice over last year"" is this accurate?
@janebrown7231
@janebrown7231 7 күн бұрын
No. Absolutely not. The energy required for that capture, even if it was feasible, would be far more CO2-emitting than the CO2 that could be sequestered. There is no such thing as carbon capture and storage at any sort of scale, and there is not enough time to develop it. Yet COP has long assumed that CCS is part of the picture.
@dondesper6552
@dondesper6552 2 ай бұрын
Guy McPherson has the courage to tell the truth. And no he is not working for Exxon.
@LivingNow678
@LivingNow678 2 ай бұрын
Guy mc Pherson is showing papers (the 'truth'), from that quotes he makes his not optimistic predictions (that at the moment can't be nominated as truth).
@johnbamforth
@johnbamforth 2 ай бұрын
McPherson isn't a Climate Scientist. He is by his own admission, an Anarchist, and was sacked from Arizona State University for preaching predictions rather than science. His PhD is in Evolutionary Biology The TRUTH since you mention it, is that which can be proven by evidence, and you cannot prove something which is yet to occur in the future 😂 Following McPherson is no different to being in a religious cult 😊
@LivingNow678
@LivingNow678 2 ай бұрын
@@fullmontyuk He said, years ago, 2027 mass extinction events (will see ...) Is true that in the last period he is saying 'in a short time'
@sweep2112
@sweep2112 2 ай бұрын
Jolly hockey sticks!
@nativespiritindian8278
@nativespiritindian8278 2 ай бұрын
blue kachina is here now and they will not change their ways so the blue will bring the red kachina to reset mother earth Mother earth will move A ho
@j.s.c.4355
@j.s.c.4355 2 ай бұрын
Maybe Tony Blair was right and we did pass some tipping points already. The Antarctic sea ice has clearly entered a new state. Fire behavior and high temperatures are clearly in new states. I would not be so quick to dismiss Tony Blair’s prediction just because his deadline has passed.
@qbas81
@qbas81 2 ай бұрын
I agree - I am afraid we will be sure about crossing tipping points well after we cross them. Without way back - so precautionary principle should be applied!
@humblerojo6300
@humblerojo6300 2 ай бұрын
Uh. We’re coming out of an ice age so duh. What do you think we can do to stop an inevitable change in climate? Move away from the coast lines, flood plains and fire hazards. That’s all you can do.
@tiffmeek
@tiffmeek 2 ай бұрын
Don't embarrass yourself. Interglacials happen over tens of thousands of years. Not over a few decades.
@davidwatson7604
@davidwatson7604 2 ай бұрын
Algo b-b-boost! Plaza Del Rey Plaza Del Rey
@bipolarmarmalade1093
@bipolarmarmalade1093 2 ай бұрын
I hate his word whiskers. I’m. Um. Um .
@Me-ck4zh
@Me-ck4zh 2 ай бұрын
According to Greta's word in 2018, the tipping point should have been happening within five year after her comment. Prophets of doom!
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 ай бұрын
So you don't live in Tigray region of Ethiopia that has famine right now due to abrupt global warming? You don't live in Zimbabwe or Namibia or Zambia? I guess you are lucky. Exponential rate of change means the rate of change keeps accelerating. So when the petri dish is half full or half empty the day before it fills up with bacteria (and no food) you can successfully argue the petri dish is half empty since you are still in deNile about the trajectory of the rate of change. Hilarious.
@Me-ck4zh
@Me-ck4zh 2 ай бұрын
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Do you believe Greta?
@davidmchugh-hypnotherapist7213
@davidmchugh-hypnotherapist7213 2 ай бұрын
How to confuse a subject. Lol
@WoodstockG54
@WoodstockG54 2 ай бұрын
If is too late. It was too late 10 years ago. This guy just hasn't woken up.
@georgelamb8074
@georgelamb8074 Ай бұрын
If you don’t wanna give it then shut up
@stevedrake6529
@stevedrake6529 26 күн бұрын
This guy says ah way too much.
@user-pv9tl4wz5l
@user-pv9tl4wz5l 2 ай бұрын
Is this 3 days old really ? Fact check ! Did we just pass 2'c ? Check ....... Yes we did temporarily Did the interviewer contradict himself ? Yes he did on 3 occasions Have we actually made progress on reducing our emissions ? No we still increase emissions by 1.5% annually Is he confident and does he actually believe what he is saying ? No he is not and does not. Does he state and believe temperature is increasing faster ...... Yes he does
@michaelhodges1749
@michaelhodges1749 2 ай бұрын
Just another money rip off WEF A loas of bollox
@chavdarnaidenov2661
@chavdarnaidenov2661 2 ай бұрын
"We" or "Everybody" must be a terrible person, it seems. I'm "Me". I don't even have a car and live in a normal 7 story building, and I don't pack 10 fridges, cause I have stores nearby. So talk about your own energy footprint. And nuclear winter is 1000 times more probable than "a boiling planet". And really depends on "We" to prevent it.
@thetombaxter
@thetombaxter 2 ай бұрын
After nuclear Winter, the global warming will accelerate as CO2 has a much slower removal rate than soot. Both must be stopped.
@Pseudonym-aka-alias
@Pseudonym-aka-alias 2 ай бұрын
Change the record.
@cliveb9771
@cliveb9771 2 ай бұрын
Agree. The 10th lecture on net zero did he say ? Since Simon Thurley left Gresham has turned to focussing on lectures for Guardian readers - wall to wall identity politics and climate change. It is really dull.
@250txc
@250txc 2 ай бұрын
7:00 -- This graph is only 100 yrs old ... Useless in the climate changes the earth has experienced in it's 4 MIL yr history ...
@colinking3477
@colinking3477 2 ай бұрын
Yawn
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 Ай бұрын
idiotic nonsense.
@TheMulderProject
@TheMulderProject 2 ай бұрын
His lip-smacking is so loud and distracting. I quit.
@eskokoskenranta6280
@eskokoskenranta6280 2 ай бұрын
Okei, mr. Allen, climate preaching might still be profitable, there is nothing wrong with that, because only the fools come listen and loose their money, they defenitely deserve it, nice.
@grahamgillard3722
@grahamgillard3722 2 ай бұрын
I listened for twenty minutes. He showed a graph where someone in the 70’s predicted large warming in the decades to come. I gave up. I’m tired of catastrophic predictions that never come true. The prediction from Tony Blair that he quotes is a perfect example of why we shouldn’t believe him. Yet he strangely tries to use Blair’s lies as support for his own argument. Weird.
@masada2828
@masada2828 2 ай бұрын
The earth will last, forever, it was made for a purpose. ‘World without end’.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 2 ай бұрын
Sun may absorb Earth in a billion yrs or so.
@Anton-tf9iw
@Anton-tf9iw 2 ай бұрын
A private college going for this kind of popular WEF propaganda? A tipping point for me, I unsubscribe!
@5353Jumper
@5353Jumper 2 ай бұрын
Really doubt you were a subscriber, but sorry to see you go. So what do you actually think the WEF gets out of this kind of content? What is their financial motive for supporting this kind of content? And is there zero possibility that the millions of scientists, engineers, researchers, and economists who have studied these topics and generally agree with this speaker are correct? And maybe the 10 scientists, engineers, researchers, and economists who disagree with this speaker are wrong?
@triplikeido75
@triplikeido75 2 ай бұрын
So cool how you're correct and the scientists, data and overwhelming evidence are wrong. You're so special!! Yay!!!🎉
@phylogenie4303
@phylogenie4303 2 ай бұрын
​@@fullmontyukhis head is fine, it was protected with tin foil.
@petersanders2815
@petersanders2815 2 ай бұрын
I’m guessing QAnon is your major news source.
@ronaldturner4849
@ronaldturner4849 2 ай бұрын
👉 🙈🙉🙊
@gilschiller1058
@gilschiller1058 2 ай бұрын
Stop lying.
@rienkhoek4169
@rienkhoek4169 2 ай бұрын
Stop lying where?
@LivingNow678
@LivingNow678 2 ай бұрын
Future = 🔮 Nobody knows exactly what will happen in details next few years. A supposition till become a fact can't be evocated as lies or truths
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman 2 ай бұрын
I have watched so many VERY dubious ideas being espused as fact on this channel I have stopped watching Grasham College. I know enough to avoid working with people who have received their education there.
@rienkhoek4169
@rienkhoek4169 2 ай бұрын
In what way?
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