Gretzky's Team Canada ultimately prevailing over Lemieux in the 1987 Canada Cup?? They were on the SAME TEAM!! What is this narrator on about??
@swy334 Жыл бұрын
Not sure lol
@stooch66 Жыл бұрын
Not only on the same team, but great teammates who scored some magical goals together. I love young people putting their own histories together off of google searches.
@michaelgriffiths8068 Жыл бұрын
@@stooch66 - exactly 😂
@uristrauss610611 ай бұрын
LOL Gretzky’s Team Canada ultimately prevailing… on a Lemieux goal late in the third, assisted by Gretzky.
@johanz198510 ай бұрын
ChatGPT written material, probably. Really bad.
@venom7558 Жыл бұрын
At least for myself.Gretzky had the better career,but Mario is a better player. I know this is always a "what if" senario,but if Lemieux had been healthy his whole career,not only would he own a few more records but I really believe he would've scored over 1,000 career goals.
@spud2727 Жыл бұрын
66 didn't have 99's drive, that was the difference
@integrity101 Жыл бұрын
66 > 99
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
@@spud2727 Didn't have his drive? He played in games where he couldn't even tie his skate laces & came back from Hodgkins, immediately after his last treatment, & dominated the league. He had the same drive, but playing through injuries & health issues hampered his career...
@spud2727 Жыл бұрын
@@chizorama I watched Lemiux live, he was a floater even when his health was good, you must be a you tube highlight watcher. Lol
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
@@spud2727 Didn't see him play live but I watched him play, but I get that. Saw the same thing when I saw Jagr live, was kind of a disappointment. Don't recall Gretzky being in the Selke converstation either though.
@michaelgriffiths8068 Жыл бұрын
This video is all fluff. Where are the highlights and stats? Gretzky and Lemieux played on the same team in the 1987 Canada Cup. They were not "rivals" on that team lol.
@sagan758511 ай бұрын
This whole video is a dumpster fire of wrong information. Get away, search a better source.
@WarioSaysSo Жыл бұрын
Both men are legends and both are hockey royalty! While Wayne Gretzky is important for exportin the sport of ice hockey to the wider USA and had great sucsess, Mario Lemieux will in the end of the day be the overall better player in overall performance. Gretzky had player inteligence, but Lemieux had some to rival, but more so he was a greater skill of stick handeling and score toucher that proved great in 3 VERY different decades of professional hockey that started in 1985- and ended in 2006! While Gretzky steadily degraded in the middle 90's, Lemieux proved he was a scoring champion and could not only win games with weaker squad(s), but somehow make them play better then they in practical reality ever was (!). Lemieux never had the over-protection Gretzky had in Oilers & Kings as he had to take some uggly hits and dashes from all teams an no one to back him up - yet despite chronical back-pains and cancer that stole several houndreds of point worthy games from his career, Lemieux still was THE force on ice. Mario Lemieux is the TRUE greatest NHL player of all-times. He not only had the scoring touch over all, but the skills and adaptation to last beyond limitations.
@michaelmcdermott5372 Жыл бұрын
That's good writing Dickie!
@WarioSaysSo Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmcdermott5372 Thank you so much !!!
@michaelmcdermott5372 Жыл бұрын
@WarioSaysSo You're welcome! Seriously tho, that was an excellent take on the both of them. I appreciate a well written opinion these days. I also think that you nailed it on the head. They were 2 completely different kinds of players in 2 completely different situations. It would be tough to say you would be wrong taking either of them. I do feel that if teams were switched and Mario was healthy, he would have put up even bigger numbers. Not sure Gretzky could have taken the abuse the NHL allowed Mario to take. I am very happy with Mario being my guy!
@WarioSaysSo Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmcdermott5372 - Ueah cxredit should be where it belongs and I agree that if switched, hard to say it would have turned out the same.
@dannycarlow82043 ай бұрын
@@michaelmcdermott5372The NHL didn't allow Mario to take abuse, that's why Pittsburgh was near the top of the league in powerplay chances for so many years. In Mario's first five years the Pens had 454 more powerplays than the teams Wayne played for in that span. When Mario had 199 points, the Pens had 491 powerplays. When Wayne scored 215 points, the Oilers had 295 powerplays. Why do you think Mario has four of the top five most powerplay points in a single season while Wayne doesn't come in until 13th place? The league gave Mario every chance to beat Wayne's records but he still couldn't.
@darrenforseille64110 ай бұрын
There are 2 factors that makes Wayne Gretzky stand out from the other legends and it has to do with Gretzky size, and his genius vision on the ice to dodge injury for most of his career. This was a gift most other greats did not have like Bobby Orr, Mike Bossy, Mario Lemiuex, etc with their careers cut short, but Gretzky under normal circumstances should have been tossed around like a tennis ball in the rink, but his visual instinct kept him from major injuries. This in itself sets him apart and most other greats just did not have that prowess. #2, I never thought it was fair to compare players that play an entire 80 games or close to 80 games and players that only play half or more than half a season. Most players including Gretzky slow down and get fatigued usually in the last half of the season and their PPG reduces a bit. i never thought it was fair to compare players that play only 2/3 a season like Lemieux and then get injured their body was not in full fatigue factor like Gretzky was and had Gretzky played the exact same amount of games as Lemieux during a season his PPG total would be significantly higher. The fatigue factor makes a huge difference on points total and Lemieux took advantage of that.
@Sweeptheleg839 ай бұрын
What helped Gretzky was he played from behind the net alot. He controlled the game from down low. He studied Bobby Clarke who played down low and in the corners. Bobby was also on the smaller and slender side. It made it so Gretzky could use the net as a buffer to protect himself from the beating he would have otherwise taken. Combine that with world class vision and hockey IQ and you have a tough matchup to deal with.
@patrice5976 Жыл бұрын
Lemieux is the no1 pick all time
@kevinmong678211 ай бұрын
My first nhl game as a kid was lemeuix vs Gretzky still to this day remember seeing that #99 was life changing so glad I got to see the greats
@todd431710 ай бұрын
Their rivalry was intense, particularly in their prime years. However as they got older, they developed a great deal of mutual respect, and actually get along quite well. Crosby and Ovechkin are in a similar place as their careers wind down.
@billssportsandwrestlingchan Жыл бұрын
Literally did no research on the Canada Cup eh? Sad.
@Chris-qo4rt6 ай бұрын
Even tho i consider Gretzky the GOAT i would much rather see a biopic/documentary about Lemieux career than Gretzkys just because of all the setbacks and insane comebacks he had whenever you thought he was finished
@ghouston6950 Жыл бұрын
Gretzky faced off against Lemieux in the 1987 Canada Cup? Seriously?????
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
Gretzky brought hockey to the desert & Mario saved a city. Wayne was the ultimate ambassador or the game, only rivaled by Gordie(Howe played in the era of lesser media though, but his influence on Gretzky helped pass the torch on the league's growth). Two different styles, both equally awesome, just a shame that injuries & Hodgkins shortened the game count for Mario, just like Bobby Orr(who I still have as the best complete player to lace em up).
@JAYJason6666 Жыл бұрын
Wayne no doubt had the greatest career of em all, Mario however was the most lethal player to have ever laced up a pair of skates. A super young Lemieux dethroned 99 as the game's best player when Gretzky was right smack in the prime of his career..
@ripapa6355 Жыл бұрын
Felt like an essay where you were trying to get your word count. Also, Gretz and Lemieux were on the same team for Canada Cup, that whole section made no sense. Did you just get a thesaurus for your birthday?
@earlviney5212 Жыл бұрын
I paid hard earn money to be entertained nobody did it like mario. Greatest show on earth. Thats how i rank the goat.
@dannycarlow82043 ай бұрын
A lot of people paid hard earned money to be entertained but he didn't play. You got your money's worth almost every night with Wayne because he was actually playing.
@aneilsen Жыл бұрын
1987 canada cup they were on same team....that mistake makes this video illegitimate.
@MichaelThomas-ll1hw Жыл бұрын
Dude they were teammates on team Canada wtf are you talking about
@Sweeptheleg839 ай бұрын
I dont remember their being a real intense rivalry between the two. They were the 2 best players in the league (Gretzky was already the best player in the world when Mario came into the league and had been for a few years) and maybe tried to one up each other stat wise but there was no hatred there at all. Really Gretzky's best years were before Mario came into the league and then a few after Mario came on the scene. Gretzky wasn't quite the monster in LA he had been in Edmonton. And Mario was a monster himself though he started to miss more and more games after that 89/90 season. Its really amazing to think what Mario could have accomplished stat wise if he was healthy in the 90s.
@dannycarlow82043 ай бұрын
Gretzky wasn't the monster in LA that he was in Edmonton yet in his first year in LA he tied Mario's second highest scoring season ever. (Wayne's 7th highest season) Wayne's third season in LA was higher than Mario's third highest scoring season ever. Wayne only dropped to Mario level monster when he left Edmonton.
@pilbomags48811 ай бұрын
Lemieux was more unstoppable than Gretzky and it's almost like Mario moved in slow motion but was unable to be beaten.
@cohenkane2148 Жыл бұрын
History has treated these two Gods differently, no?
@moody9442 Жыл бұрын
how?
@BruceAChristie11 ай бұрын
Great footage of masterful hockey, especially of Lemieux (as there seemed to be more of his plays). Your title and picture are so off base. These two players carried huge admiration for each while remaining highly competitive about their game and team’s progress. Try a new title and picture and you’ll find more agreement about how they competed with each other.
@moosejawt Жыл бұрын
The only reason Lemieux won his first scoring title was because Gretzky got hurt with knee injury missing almost 2 months.Gretzky is the goat
@Keeboy96 Жыл бұрын
Gretzky had the best career and he deserve to be consider the goat. But Lemieux was the best player in the world from 1988 to 2003. Everytime he was healthy in that time period he had more point per game than Gretzky.
@moosejawt Жыл бұрын
@@Keeboy96 I would disagree Lemieux was better from 1991 when he won his first Stanley Cup,it helped him having former Oilers playing on his team
@Keeboy96 Жыл бұрын
@@moosejawt The fact is in 88 Lemieux won the Art Ross, Hart and Lester B award. He was defnitely the best in the league. In 89 Lemieux got 199 points in 76 games. Gretzky had 168 in 78 games. In 1990 Lemieux only played 59 games. People don't take the health of Lemieux into consideration. When he was healthy he was definitely the #1 from 88.
@JAYJason6666 Жыл бұрын
Yet the next season Mario played 2 fewer games then 99 and still finished with 31 more points then Wayne.. Despite 99's insane 163 assist 215 point season in 85/86 it was the 20 year old Mario (not Wayne) who was voted the game's best player that season (Ted Lyndsay award)... In 91/92 Mario spotted Gretzky 10 games and still finished with 10 more points then the Great One that season. In 92/93 Mario missed 24 games and still won the scoring title by 12 points...
@JAYJason6666 Жыл бұрын
In 91/92 Mario spotted a 30 year old Gretzky 10 games and still finished with 10 more points then the Great One that season for another scoring title win... When Mario was 30 he missed 12 games and still led the NHL in goals, assists & points... Wayne was 27 years old at the start of the 88/89 season when Mario won his 2nd scoring title. Mario destroyed 99 in the scoring race by 31 points that season with a career minor leaguer and a career bottom 6 forward as line mates. When Mario was 27 he missed 24 games and still won the scoring title by 12 points....
@Wanderlust598 Жыл бұрын
This is bs, they respected each other and won the world cup together
@Insignia6 Жыл бұрын
Too much talking and not enough showing.
@tarikbey-we6oq11 ай бұрын
Give me lemieux all day long!!! Over Gretzky the golden boy of the NHL! Gret's was protected by the league! Players couldn't touch him or there would be hell to pay!!!
@dannycarlow82043 ай бұрын
How was he protected by the league? Are you saying the refs protected him? You sure make odd comments for someone who isn't a fan of any player.
@tarikbey-we6oq11 ай бұрын
Give me lemeau
@SMC01ful Жыл бұрын
Two different players, two different styles. One big, one small. Matter of preference. Moreover, whats this bullshit about Gretzky'S Team Canada? Mario was playing for Team who? Marv's Shitty Underpants?
@burtmann39214 ай бұрын
Intense rivalry LMFAO terrible facts and misinfo. This video must of been created by a basketball fan
@earlviney5212 Жыл бұрын
1989 was a travesty no way Gretzky should won the hart trophy. Lemieux won the scoring race by 30 points (199 that year) what a joke
@Mike-mc5ll Жыл бұрын
And Lemieux did receive his Art Ross for points. Gretzky got Hart for making LA a top-4 team. The previous year they were bottom-4.
@dannycarlow82043 ай бұрын
You must feel that 1986 was an even bigger travesty then because Wayne outscored Mario by 74 points but Mario won the Pearson. (215 points for Wayne that year, the most in history) No bigger joke than that.
@bondjames652 Жыл бұрын
Lemieux is French. You know what that means?
@cornpipe Жыл бұрын
He was born in Quebec?
@Keeboy96 Жыл бұрын
@@cornpipe Yes, he is from Montréal
@Keeboy96 Жыл бұрын
People say Lemieux mean "the best", but I'm from Québec & the accurate translation would be "the better" wich is pretty good too.
@1Yh8HH Жыл бұрын
Lemieux is not french, he is quebecois. It's like saying you're English when you come from can. or the u.s
@jogendron6320 Жыл бұрын
Click bait
@bb-gc2tx Жыл бұрын
if i was starting a team and needed an all around center to win in playoffs im talking not just scoring but winning face offs getting dirty in the corners leadership and all around toughness it takes to win im taking bryan trottier over both of them
@zprodigalson10 ай бұрын
😂
@MrChristryon Жыл бұрын
I’ve meet both of these players: One of them was so great, and so humble about it. The other was a giant prick... That’s why I never root for the Penguins.
@zprodigalson10 ай бұрын
“The other was a giant prick”? Can you share your experience? I always thought both were humble.
@edwardjjanzen23 Жыл бұрын
both lemieux and gretzky were great players. the difference here was 'drive'. gretzky was intense as a player, dominant, smart with the puck; lemieux was lazy, indifferent, strong, and every bit as talented, but he lacked ambition. this was true also of lemieux in his junior career. coming out of junior, many scouts questioned his 'heart', never his talent. lemieux would have likely outshone gretzky otherwise, and be spoken of as 'the greatest forward/player who ever played the game.' lemieux didn't care. he just wanted to be paid as if he was the 'greatest of all time.'
@babouska5985 Жыл бұрын
You now him ? you play with Mario Otherwise close your mouth Gretzky lovers
@Keeboy96 Жыл бұрын
Lemieux won 2 cup, 2 playoff MVP...1987 Canada winning goal... He won the gold medal in 2002 when he was the captain of team Canada... In 1992 Lemieux cameback the day right after he finished radiation treatement from cancer. Won the scoring title even despite missing 24 GAMES that year. Not so bad for a lazy guy 😂... Just wanted to be paid... The franchise was so poor they coudn't even paid him the remaining of his contract. Instead of trying to get the most money and leave...Lemieux literaly saved the franchise of Pittsburgh when he bought the team with a group of investor...Back problems, irregular heartbeat and CANCER didn't help Lemieux, not his heart for the game.
@edwardjjanzen23 Жыл бұрын
@@Keeboy96 his talent was never questioned. the question was his heart. this was the question of scouts during his junior years, and this continued to be the question throughout his nhl career. if lemieux had the drive of gretzky, who also wanted to be paid, there is little question he would have elevated past gretzky as to who was the goat. lemieux did not have the heart of rocket richard, gretzky did. lemieux was not sought after by other teams for this reason, and in selecting lemieux, the penguins opted for his talent, and wondered if he would be good in the dressing room. super mario wore the 'c' for 8 seasons and didn't for 5, and in the 8 seasons he shared the captaincy for 2. lemieux was not the leader he could have been. even so, he ranks 2nd behind gretzky with the best all time points per game. lemieux will be and is remembered as the greatest player of all time who didn't live up to his potential. lemieux ranks 4th among the greatest of all time, behind bobby orr, wayne gretzky, and gordie howe.
@Keeboy96 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardjjanzen23 I saw one all time ranking lately and Lemieux was placed 2nd just behing Gretzky. The "Heart" thing was only the Scout in the junior. Later on in his career Lemieux was never questioned about his heart again. Only haters would still say something about his heart. Watch the NHL 100 video of Lemieux on KZbin. Coffey said in the video "Lemieux never got enough credit for his competitive level". And guess what ? Coffey played with Gretzky too. Your argument is delusional. The oilers were able to win the cup even after Gretzky left. I think Messier for the oilers was more the "heart" of the oilers. Gretzky was never a big defensive or physical guy.
@edwardjjanzen23 Жыл бұрын
@@Keeboy96 i have seen lemieux ranked 6th in some places. the bleacher report ranks him as 4th all time. i have never seen him ranked 2nd, and in the bleacher report howe is ahead of gretzky. coffey was right 'lemieux never got enough credit for his competitive level' because it was generally agreed that lemieux was playing below his potential. agreed that messier played with a lot of heart, as did bobby clarke. agreed that gretzky was never a big defensive or physical guy; and with this you are making the point for me, that will all this skill and size, lemieux is never ranked ahead of gretzky; and the question has to be asked ... why?