Grhastha Issues, Part 2, Vedic And Non-vedic Approaches In Marriage

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@sagartri1987 2 жыл бұрын

As long as grihasthas are lectured on grihastha ashram by sanyasis & Bramhacharis who have no experience of staying with opposite sex in a commitment, iskcon divorce rate will keep on increasing. Grihasthas should follow grihasthas & prabhupada instructions rather then taking orders from saffron devotees. Sanyasis and Bramhacharis should only focus on giving krishna Katha and not in giving personal instructions to grihasthas. Also there must be astrologers team in guiding grihasthas. There must be separate panel of grihastha teams to take on the issues on grihastha ashram

@crishakti 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏🏼

@BhaktiVikasaSwami 2 жыл бұрын

(Managed by disciples): Hare Krishna! Please listen to the lecture again @ 0:45 to 2:04 where your question is answered by Maharaja. You said, " Grihasthas should follow grihasthas & prabhupada instructions rather then taking orders from saffron devotees." Well, Srila Prabhupada was a sannyasi as well but he also used to instruct his grhastha disciples. Narada Muni is a renown brahmacari, but he also discussed about the duties of householders in Srimad-Bhagavatam. In his book, "Mothers and Masters," Maharaja deals with this topic as follows: "Why should devotees be at all concerned with social issues? Shouldn't we just speak about Krsna and topics directly related to Krsna Consciousness? Certainly, devotional service is ultimately a purely spiritual process, yet within this world psychological and social factors undeniably influence persons who are trying to cultivate spiritual consciousness. The outlook and attitudes of an aspiring transcendentalist will necessarily be affected by his previous impressions and by how he lives and acts within society. In that regard, within the Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam, Vedic social organization is discussed, along with the direct delineation of Krsna Consciousness. For instance, the seventh canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam features an extended section wherein Narada, who is famous as a brahmacari, explains the various duties of the four social orders, and also the duties of women and related matters. And various sastras (Brahma-vaivarta purana, Mahabharata, Siva Purana) record graphic dialogs wherein Narada inquires about and is instructed on the nature of women. Srila Prabhupada also often discussed such subjects and gave many insights and directions pertaining to them." Of course sannyasis and brahmacaris aren't involved deeply in grhastha matters, but as the leaders of the society they can do the needful. Hare Krishna!

@p007t 2 жыл бұрын

Try listening to the discussion again - this time with your eyes and ears open.

@VijayRana78 2 жыл бұрын

Gopala Acharya prabhu made nice point. Training or discussion about Grihasthashram must be there. In previous video also I wrote, and again writing. Though Guru Maharaj has shown some glimpses of Traditional Indian Life, detailed discussion about duties of various roles is required. Family doesn't mean *हम दो, हमारे दो*. Discussion should include various roles like four types of uncle-aunts, four types of nephew-niece, friends, neighbours, as citizen, towards fellow citizen, towards fellow members of society, all the occupational roles, towards others, towards poor, towards needy etc. In absence of such training by senior devotees and as our devotees don't stay in society surrounded by relatives, devotees don't know how to behave with others.

@VijayRana78 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear discussion about duties and dharma. Somehow in our movement they are not discussed or emphasized. If at all there is a discussion about duty, it is limited to role of husband, wife, mother, guru, shishya. But even in small Bhagavad Gita many more roles of a person are discussed and Niti shastra may define many more roles. Gita 3.24 Krishna says: even though He has no obligation for any duty, still if He doesn't perform His duties, the result will be disaster. So, why don't we discuss duties of man as son, brother, friend, servant, boss, neighbor, "citizen", etc. And similar roles for woman, such as daughter, sister, sister-in-law, bhabhi, devarani, jethani, nanand, sas, bahu, kaki, mami, bua, mausi, niece, friend, neighbor, citizen or any other role. Not just a role of wife or mother but negligence of any other role will bring ruination of society. If they are not important, then why are all other duties discussed in scriptures? There are even scriptures solely dedicated to discussing duties. Then argument is given from SB 10.5.41 O King, one who has given up all material duties and has taken full shelter of the lotus feet of Mukunda, who offers shelter to all, is not indebted to the demigods, great sages, ordinary living beings, relatives, friends, mankind or even one’s forefathers who have passed away. Since all such classes of living entities are part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, one who has surrendered to the Lord’s service has no need to serve such persons separately. But mostly devotees tend to accept and follow selectively as per their convenience. They give up parents but not wife. Devotees may give up aluminum or fried rice stating Prabhupad's instruction but not modern school, modern education. These things should come in discussion. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@BhaktiVikasaSwami 2 жыл бұрын

(Managed by disciples): Hare Krsna Prabhu! Pranam! All glories to Srila Prabhupada! Thankyou for the suggestions. Krsna willing, in the future there will be discussions on these topics as well.

@VijayRana78 2 жыл бұрын

@@BhaktiVikasaSwami 🙏🏻

@adilakshminutrifoods 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you maharaj for this ista gosthi, I am willing to enter the grhastha ashram soon. All the devotee shared very nice realisations. Thank you

@BhaktiVikasaSwami 2 жыл бұрын

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@adilakshminutrifoods 2 жыл бұрын

@@BhaktiVikasaSwami did maharaj please accept my pranam

@shekhargupta1416 Жыл бұрын

@@BhaktiVikasaSwami kindly add subtitles

@TheDeepening718 2 жыл бұрын

The false belief that marriage and family can transcend death has caused such an incredible amount of suffering. Now nobody can let go of this THING. It's caused so much suffering that there's a special section in the law book called domestic violence.

@Subhadrapriyarani 2 жыл бұрын

All glories to you Guru Maharaj..!! All glories to Sril Prabhupad ..!! 🙌🙌🌺

@harekrishna1753 2 жыл бұрын

HareKrishna Maraj, Dandavad pranams Radheshyam prabhu Said that Iskcon divorce rate is top, when compared to outside Karmi World. I feel outside material marriage is better than so-called devotees marriage in iskcon because outside people are clear that they want only sex , devotees are gratifying their sences in the name of Krishna consciousness marriage, when sense gratification is finished, devotees are taking divorces or going with other partners.. can you please discuss or reply on this topics. Maharaj said in his book mother's and masters, women shouldn't work, but I saw most of maharaja women disciples are going to colleges and working, and they are feminists, as I commented previously most of your women disciples are not interested to marry .. can you please 🙏 discuss on this topics...

@shekhargupta1416 2 жыл бұрын

Hare krsna prabhu pamho I agree wid u on each nd every single word What should b done according to u in above mentioned scenario When devotees r attacked y passion nd wanna fulfill their lust to some extent in this age of kaliyuga I myself is very confused Kindly do guide Ur servant🙏🙏

@p007t 2 жыл бұрын

Which disciples are feminists? Name which yatra do they belong to? Your pathetic attempt at gaslighting stands be to be proved correct.