Grieving Parents Share Sons’ Fraternity Hazing Stories

[@victorysspace7757]

My number 1 rule is to teach my kids to never be afraid to just say NO and walk away. I went through college without joining any frat. I wasn't even aware there was any at my college. I was just busy trying to make good grades get a job and come out of poverty becausethat'swhatIhad knownall my life. I couldn't care less. My heartfelt condolences to these families.

[@jenniferreeves2003]

Ur smart for focusing on what college is actually there for. I'm.glad u were able to do the right thing

[@patriciamartinez1284]

Victory space now days u don't know what happens in this what it in party's

[@SerenaMy6555]

Me too. I never went to any college party because I don’t want anything bad will happen to me. My mom just lost my brother due to Brain cancer and she is very overprotective of me and warm many time of these things. I never what a college party was but after watching it from many other tv show have already me not want to go

[@yorkiesweetpea23]

Hazers don't accept "No" . Do you think all of these victims, none of them had said no or at least tried to?

[@patriciamartinez1284]

@@yorkiesweetpea23 don't know what ur talking o if ur talking to me this places throw parties as any other do then as anywhere then something happens I know what this things r

[@thecozyconstellation]

this isn't hazing, it's MURDER. and the ones responsible need to rot in jail.

[@louiscyphre2267]

The person has to agree to the hazing though.

[@FyeRye]

@@louiscyphre2267 nobody agrees to wanting to be murdered…

[@scottsent8120]

Nobody made them join a frat. They know what it's about. You want to take away their freedom to choose.

[@SachiraBhanu]

@@scottsent8120 It's not a choice when it's come to death. You can say a suicide is a choice but if someone encourage him to do that, it will count as murder. This is a rag.

[@Materialgirl_3]

Nobody made them do anything. Someone could tell me to jump off a bridge. So if I do it then it’s their fault? No

[@TheOnlyAvid]

The kids absolutely need to recount these stories. My fraternity took the tim piazza case VERY seriously when I was in school

[@t_rir]

@@Vicky-bo4dy 🤡

[@joeybaseball7352]

At the end of the day, just raise your kids right. Alcohol consumption is illegal for anyone under 21 for a reason.

[@Emboarepic]

Timmy Timothy Timofey

[@HelloHello-zf2sv]

@LAKEHUNTIST🇷🇺[Z] Best clown is right.🤡🤡🙄

[@scottsent8120]

That'll last a few years, then back to fun and games. You want to play, you have to pay.

[@Joanna_Grace24]

My heart goes out to the victims and family’s

[@theducks1758]

@LAKEHUNTIST🇷🇺[Z] why do you copy and paste?

[@lamarjohnson9226]

@LAKEHUNTIST🇷🇺[Z] your gay

[@TaylorKnightCosplay]

@@theducks1758 report them

[@anntphamvo87]

There’s absolutely no reason for this to still exist on college campuses.

[@Antivenom1998]

there more worried about equality on campus then fixing the real issues

[@uglyhobo4602]

@@Antivenom1998 there should be equality though. Too many injustices these days!

[@shampuu7623]

@@Antivenom1998 slow ass acting like they can’t do both.

[@Eli_perez64]

Yup paying for friends and test answer banks 🙄

[@btdownloadking123]

@@Antivenom1998 I think you mean equity

[@MariaAbrams]

My heart hurts so bad for all these families. My son is almost 20 and I can't imagine...smh... in Adam's case, I think it's good that it brought the attention it has and that his fellow frat brothers, especially the ones responsible, have come forward and the fact they take responsibility and speak out about it is incredible. And it's good. That's going to help people for sure. As for Danny, that's awful and a fate worse than death I believe. I am so sorry for these families. Bless you all. ♥

[@jahamesbelly27]

Watch your son join a frat that will be so funny

[@chaoticbaby9544]

@@jahamesbelly27 bro wtf is wrong with you

[@rakijr9176]

Just let him smoke weed instead.

[@nikkapubess3349]

Ain't no one's fault their sons were weak and couldn't handle booze.

[@440-fishermandrock8]

@LAKEHUNTIST🇷🇺[Z] you're also a virg1n 🤣

[@Inkspired.Sweets]

i go to the same school as Danny. Every time i see videos about this and i see his picture, i remember the emails we all got sent and the updates we all hurt to hear. protests, anger, and frustration from the students continues on campus but doesn’t do anything. Mizzou doesn’t hold people accountable, and i am so incredibly sorry for his family.

[@Aschuu]

Yes. I live right by Como and have read so much about his case also, it upsets me so much. I agree someone needs to be held accountable, his whole life is ruined now... I mean, maybe not ruined but, I'm sure that wasn't what he visioned for his future.. it's all so sad.

[@piyush2465]

Keep protesting plz

[@tictac3147]

Isn’t it inhumane to keep him in a state like that? Being forced to exist in that way is abuse

[@Inkspired.Sweets]

@@tictac3147 personally, yeah, I do think it is. But it’s not my choice in any way to make. I understand 100% how difficult this is for his family as I have a close friend who is in a very similar but thankfully bit better of a situation. It’s hard to let them go so I try not to judge too much.

[@NinaZuccaro0824]

My cousin knew Tim, the read haired guy from Penn State. He fell down a flight of stairs and died of a head injury after his fraternity brothers neglected to call the police. She said he was a really nice, smart guy.

[@linzwalker436]

It seems like a lot of good people get murdered for no reason

[@fireflymiesumae]

This is murder

[@Arkensius1157]

Oh no...

[@rebeccamartin2399]

That's why they targeted him, he was too nice.

[@bigphatemergy]

reminds me specifically of the hazing scene depicted in the Roanoke season of AHS…started out “lighthearted” then turned to negligence, took place on the stairs as well. sad to think how many scenarios like this play out when they’re not even the worst that occur. shouldn’t have ever happened & could’ve been prevented. RIP Tim

[@faithoverfear8095]

Shame on these colleges for not taking more action a long time ago to prevent this!!!

[@Xane_Dragon]

@@Former_Pastor same

[@garycarpenter2980]

This isn't like the movie Animal House..... this is real

[@sethwatters99]

How can they they don't monitor the kids

[@longsleevethong1457]

The schools don’t know. Don’t blame others for your bad parenting. You didn’t teach your kids how to survive. That’s on you.

[@davidho9238]

Why you blamed the schools not the peoples who involved including those lost their life.

[@olivabuckhanon1228]

This fraternity hazing is ultimately dangerous and prayers go out to the families who lost their sons 😔😔😔😔

[@sandermarkunzo4538]

Never go to University if there's a Fraternity there.

[@Ryan88881]

You mean this alcohol drinking. Well then maybe we should be teaching kids about how to actually dose alcohol, marijuana, caffeine, nicotine, etc. at the very least. Only 13 shots can be lethal and yet we don't tell them things like that.

[@redredred8408]

*vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@doctorslayer2106]

Sometimes it's just pure pressure to be a member of a Fraternity.. You don't need a brotherhood of your brothers can't even protect you .

[@zazasnruntz7505]

I don’t feel sorry for the white ones at all 🤷‍♂️ they’ve been doing evil stuff like this for hundreds and of years in this country

[@welcometoamerica690]

You don't have to join a fraternity to have the whole college experience. I feel bad that these young men had to lose their lives so they could be part of a social circle that doesn't do anything but party and get drunk.

[@scottsent8120]

Welcome to America.

[@nilisapemberton2656]

My thoughts exactly

[@allanwong1332]

That’s why I didn’t join.

[@redredred8408]

*vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident* *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@windowsill9724]

And all it would take to get rid of fraternities is to give 18 year olds the rights and privileges that they deserve but the old fogeys on capital hill don‘t have the intelligence to see that.

[@misstexascardio4860]

There should be a rule. Any type of hazing causes for anyone participating to be expelled and not accepted into any other college

[@linzwalker436]

That should be enough incentive not to do it since death and being charged with murder isn't enough.

[@misstexascardio4860]

@@linzwalker436 apparently that's not stopping them and no one is being charged so let's take away their right to get a decent paying job. 😉

[@ryanmurtagh9282]

If you want to deny them a decent paying job, you should force them to stay in college but major in the liberal arts. In all seriousness, we just need to enforce our current manslaughter laws.

[@louiscyphre2267]

Nope. People who participate do it of their own volition. It’s their own fault.

[@youllbemytourniquet]

It doesn’t seem like these colleges even care, despite the negativity it brings to them. Expulsions need to be enforced

[@inetaplate]

I have a toddler son who I will advise and urge against joining FRATERNITIES when he’s off to college. I never liked frats or sororities mainly for this reason. The idea of wanting to join anything that causes harm and humiliation as part of an initiation makes no sense at all- similar to joining a gang 🙅🏽‍♀️ we have to teach the younger generation to STOP SEEKING VALIDATION from others. Be a leader, not a follower 💯

[@scottsent8120]

No matter what you tell him you want, he will do what *he* wants when he is of age and away from your control.

[@nilisapemberton2656]

@@scottsent8120 some do listen

[@inetaplate]

@@scottsent8120 that’s why it’s imperative to instill this notion at an early age to not seek validation from others. I know because that was me- never cared about belonging to any of the HS groups 😅 always did my own thing and ppl followed me. Again- teach your kids to BE A LEADER, NOT A FOLLOWER 🥰

[@lawtraf8008]

@@scottsent8120 No he won't if they raise him right.

[@Mxox1]

@@scottsent8120clearly you must have some bad trauma of being controlled by ur parents, let it out buddy, let it out.

[@alrightb]

The school should be held accountable, the school is allowing these fraternities to still operate in these schools after the death, loss of life. That is crazy

[@willieverusethis]

And the national frats can't be sued. They have set up legal agreements that relieve them of any liability when these things happen. Meanwhile, these hazing traditions continue and get a wink-wink from national organizations. Universities should not allow any official frats or sororities.

[@theresahaines2647]

Penn State didn’t care when Tim died from hazing. The trial itself was a joke. Those involved in Tim’s death got a slap on the wrist.

[@redredred8408]

Theresa Holmes *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@VioletJoy]

While the reporter stated they were "forced" to drink the alcohol, the parents were more realistic and used the words "coerced" and " expected to". This message is an extremely valuable one for students who might pledge a fraternity. Poor choices and foolish decisions will always be made by people, but others do not have to go along with such risky demands. All of those boys could still be here if someone had called 811, and all of them would still be here if they had refused to drink. Rather than always focusing on the perpetrator, it's even more important to focus on raising confident kids who will think for themselves. My heart goes out to all of the parents here. What a senseless way to lose a child. 💔

[@digdog66]

I rather pay rent than live free with the cost of being humiliated

[@toaster6651]

Wait until you find out that these guys literally pay monthly dues to be a part of this fuckery

[@mychapter1383]

Nothing is free.

[@amazingabby25]

@Siobhan Fogarty no you don’t , only sometimes but usually not

[@tommcdermott3233]

I’ll always remember the night when I walked out of my fraternity because they decided to haze the new class. I’ll spare the details, but even more memorable was the following day when people started to reach out and beg me not to go to the police. The irony is that I didn’t consider doing that until they got so nervous about it. Even then the only reason I did was because I offered to part ways with no hard feelings as long as they waived my remaining dues. They refused and not only did they never collect a dime from me.. they lost their charter and were disband.

[@Luna_and_Miles]

Thanks for being smart and walking out of what was a den of sociopaths or idiots.

[@rasheemthebestfirstone3274]

Did they try to do anything to you

[@youmadhuh6375]

This is sad.. parents need to do their parts and talk to their kids... this is not okay, you can in fact die... I can't imagine sending my child to college and getting a phone call that they're dead.. this isn't going to stop, so parents need to do their due diligence. And instill in their kids just say NO.. walk away.. pledging a fraternity is not worth dying over..

[@joeybaseball7352]

Exactly. Finally someone with common sense. Of you were raised right, this will never happen to you. Alcohol consumption is illegal for anyone under 21 for a reason. My parents raised me right.

[@rachaelrigoli8406]

@@joeybaseball7352 bro it’s legal everywhere else under 21. But go off.

[@alos4025]

@@joeybaseball7352 wow. Making it the parents fault? Why don’t the other parents teach their kids not to haze and bully other kids? Your parents clearly forgot to teach you simple empathy.

[@bubblebass9992]

@@joeybaseball7352 Karen lmao

[@scottsent8120]

You can tell your kid how you want them to behave all you want, but if they want to live this way, they're going to do it.

[@ds0904]

This will stop when society stops glorifying and glamorizing alcohol and drunkenness and thinking of drinking as a rite of passage. I wonder if the parents have considered suing the makers of the liquor their sons drank? If gun manufacturers can be sued for the damage their products cause, then so can the liquor industry

[@linzwalker436]

And tobacco companies get sued as well as unhealthy food companies.

[@Brittany-p4f]

Agree!

[@comment.highlighted]

I hope this gets more coverage. Hazing is stupid to begin with 🤷‍♂️

[@lolafairchild88]

You don't hear about this at Black colleges like Spelman and Morehouse do you 🤔?

[@comment.highlighted]

@@lolafairchild88 The problem is that the Hazing is not being reported or is being covered up. So who knows… 🤷‍♂️

[@islandgirl7304]

Yeah, I didn't hear stories of hazing at the almost all black college in Daytona I lived near

[@comment.highlighted]

@@islandgirl7304 That’s the point of the story. People aren’t speaking up, that’s why they want to expose the Hazing .

[@jayjaynonya395]

@@lolafairchild88 oh stop! This isn’t abo it race. Jesus Christ, you all (and by you all I mean LEFTIST) love a race split.

[@JaVi-wf1gl]

So much respect for those parents speaking out and raising awareness! This is really sad! :(

[@dermy6337]

I’m glad I never was forced to drink when I was pledging. They gave us all a bottle but told us it’s optional if we wanted to drink it. They said, if we don’t drink or anything that’s fine as long as we have fun. I really appreciate them for that. I feel for these families as well especially because they lost a part of them due to stupidity and negligence of other people.

[@scottsent8120]

Optional?! That's not even a real fraternity!

[@dermy6337]

@@scottsent8120 it’s definitely a real fraternity…

[@xwrtk]

@@scottsent8120 That is a real fraternity. Not all fraternities haze or drink a lot. Stop buying into myths or stereotypes.

[@mimimosa259]

That’s the only way it should be. If you go to a frat and call these people your brothers and sisters… brothers and sisters don’t put you into harms way. They protect and guide you

[@Ishbikes]

@@xwrtklook at what video you’re on. I’m definitely going to believe it!

[@harmony331000]

The kids that do this hazing thing to others, especially the amount of alcohol they force them to drink and the physical abuse, should be expelled from college, and charged because this is murder and gross bodily harm…why aren’t they held accountable for doing this to pledges , I don’t understand how they get away with it?? It’s disgusting

[@BrookeKatherine.]

I think it’s because they think legally that they could say no to drinking. But with the threat of bodily harm in some cases, like the paddling, it’s obvious the reasons why they feel they have to drink.

[@harmony331000]

@@BrookeKatherine. yes I agree with you

[@dilly7943]

Look at the children and that would explain why they get away with it.

[@goddammitboi]

Force? Was there a gun to his head? 😂

[@BunnyQueen97]

It's so important to know that this is NOT just happening in frat houses. I went to a "party school" and keeping tally of your shots on your arm with a sharpie was expected, and people would go WELL beyond 20 shots, in think the most I've seen is 26-30. I've had to talk friends into calling 911 for random people SO many times. Binge drinking is a huge problem for people in my age group and younger.

[@Ms.Poolchan]

Credit to these parents. To relive their horror over and over again of losing their child in the hope to stop this practice 🙏

[@alisonfowler8193]

This is so terrible. I live in a college town and the amount of alcohol p is unreal. So sorry to all these family's. This should never happen

[@mychapter1383]

You know what; these parents sometimes pressure their children to join these fraternities. Whether it’s family tradition or a way to network. The worst part is everyone including the parents and school officials know how bad hazing gets yet it’s a culture that lives on! The problem is bigger than the fraternities.

[@bw33X]

Yes, their parents did the same things. Not saying these parents, idk. Join the fraternity or sorority. I'm in my 60s, same story over again, 😔.

[@islandgirl7304]

Liked because more ppl need to see this. Similar thing happened to me. I just didn't know how serious it was to drink that much. Many others need to know. A lot of ppl don't have others best interest at heart. Even if you've known that person for yrs 😫 Be on guard AT ALL TIMES!

[@elsapoelsapo1821]

@@Vicky-bo4dy Agree...IF your stupid enough to do what other people tell you.

[@Markynava777]

@@Vicky-bo4dy what about this is funny, Vicky? Help me understand

[@HelloHello-zf2sv]

@@Vicky-bo4dy You have issues..

[@christimecarmona6810]

Only a misdemeanor? Jail time for all these dirtbags! So sorry to all these families ❤️

[@scottsent8120]

You can't put corpses and invalids in jail!

[@friedrice4015]

He’s not the person who made him drink the bottle, he’s just the president. Therefore, he isn’t being charged for hazing the student, only for not preventing it/not discouraging hazing in his organization.

[@LewisC-iu3hh]

They’re white so they get special privilege!

[@supermichaelssecondchannel4342]

Thank you for posting this I’m not going to be a victim of hazing, nor haze anyone, nor let my sons be victims of hazing.

[@SerenaMy6555]

I feel sorry for these parents for losing their son. Watching them made me think of my mom when she lose my brother due to brain cancer. Which was why I never been to any college party or have any to do with drinking. I put all my Focus on study in college and don’t have much friends… I admit my life is boring but it keep me save and not to made my parent worry.

[@scottsent8120]

You life is boring! You need to shoot heroin to be interesting.

[@redredred8408]

AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@lacosta0892]

Don’t forget that you can do other things that don’t involve alcohol and getting drunk and still have an eventful life, it’s just society that pushes people to drink to excess. Also, there’s nothing wrong with drinking alcohol, as long as you know how to control yourself and don’t get addicted to it

[@tictac3147]

If you have to be drunk in order for your life to be “entertaining” then that in itself is sad

[@NoelaRuhana-qx4id]

This is good, safe and will make your parents very proud. Keep it up👊👏😁😇

[@luvtay5487]

This is so sad. My heart goes out to these families.

[@empath2005]

My heart ❤️ goes out to all of the parents.

[@AC-jp1lm]

My sister's hazing was being woken up at 2 am and being told to jump into the cold, dirty pond on campus. Why do people have to take it so far? It's so sick.

[@pateintprosper9382]

This so dam heartbreaking 💔 sending your child to college and bringing them home in a casket. My God.

[@redredred8408]

Parent People *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@kathrinsides2838]

When I was in college (1989-1993), I was in a sorority,, and I was also a little sister to a fraternity. I was never hazed by any group. I know for a fact that neither the fraternity or the sorority (any of them on our campus) had any kind of hazing activity. In fact, even when we went to regular parties not affiliated with the organizations where there was alcohol involved, there was a always a standing, spoken, clearly voiced rule that if someone felt like they needed to stop drinking, they could. We would play drinking games, but no one ever gave anyone a hard time about not drinking or stopping drinking. Our Greek organizations were not allowed to have booze at any event put on by the organization. I can’t believe that hazing is still happening because it is so dangerous not to mention how bad it is for the organization itself even if no one gets hurt permanently. It goes against the spirit and intent of the Greek system entirely.

[@emmajane646]

The Greek system is about worshipping Greek demonic deities!

[@bluejem1315]

This is so sad my heart goes out to the families.

[@redredred8408]

*vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@rilo7891]

Instead of saying Big brother. How about abuser or attacker or something.

[@kwameambaah7140]

Life and college can still be fun without doing all of these deadly things! By the grace of God I went through 4 years of college without drinking or attending a party, and I still had an amazing time. It’s not worth it! Give your life to Jesus!!!! God loves you so much!

[@te4888]

Amen

[@prg2457]

how sad is that.....time to educate and spread awareness..My heart goes with the grieving families

[@redredred8408]

*vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@moyrarasheed8641]

I went to Pakistan to do med school. And they had hazing there. Some of the hazing was vicious. It was demeaning, physically harmful and embarrassing. Nothing was done about it until the principal changed. He sent a pack of 30 senior guys who were in final year every day, who would roam the campus and if they saw hazing they would stop the hazing, and report to the principal and that child was expelled. He also had appointed senior doctors both on the female campus and the male campus to update the staff about who did hazing in the dorms. And they announced it through their newsletters, to conferences and when they did their medical conferences as well. So that everyone would understand that he meant business.Needless to say hazing no longer exists in that university. It was a wonderful time for the newcomers. Because when I remember my time of hazing, there were a couple of girls that were burned and lost their hair in their scalp. So hazing should not exist in universities. Period!

[@Emily-cw7tj]

I agreed with everything you just said and thank you for sharing your story ☺️😊

[@shanmonkey]

Lol schools should be like that

[@DeniseBrown-voteblue]

Such a tragedy that is %100 preventable with education and awareness !

[@sunflower8502]

Great reporting by Lisa as usual!

[@LisaGuerreroTV]

Thank you for watching!

[@sidali2590]

Thanks inside edition for covering this. Hazing is a serious crime that needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law or such cases will continue.

[@scottsent8120]

You can't prosecute corpses or the mentally incompetent.

[@redredred8408]

*vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident* AS *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident* AS *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident* *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* a *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* *vaccine existing* is to *20th booster*

[@earlineprice9374]

I'm really sorry for what happened to your son's. I hope the Guy's who did this to your son's get what they deserve.

[@scottsent8120]

The sons did it to themselves, and they got what they deserved.

[@PS-re4tr]

Ban frats and sororities! What purpose do they serve?

[@buckleupbuckaroo7320]

Nobody's making you join just stay in your dorm 🤣🤦🤦🤦 don't worry about what we're doing 😎

[@misstexascardio4860]

@@buckleupbuckaroo7320 you didn't answer her question what purpose do they serve?

[@javiercruz6052]

@@misstexascardio4860 your hot

[@alisonf6478]

💯

[@prestonanonuoso5508]

@@buckleupbuckaroo7320 you didn’t answer her question, what purpose do they serve?

[@dededailyinspiration5291]

Jesus! My heart goes out to all of the families. Heartbreaking.

[@RockDay-wv8jq]

This is where young kids need to understand how dangerous hazing is. It's very sad how this happens far too often and many young people die from these incidents.

[@arimax888]

This sadly happens in a lot of cultures where alcohol is the main feature of social interactions ! I read years ago that kidney disease is high in SKorea due to how social drinking is prevalent in there

[@sharonhein85]

This is one of the saddest thing’s that goes on at colleges . I just don’t understand why it keeps happening!

[@redredred8408]

merriwanna bulb burned out

[@jenniferreeves2003]

And schools need to put a stop to these fraternities and be held accountable as well

[@lindsayvanas7125]

Hazing is wrong and I am heartbroken for the parents who lost their sons because of this.

[@redredred8408]

*vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@mermaidopulence8539]

When I was in college I was at a party and the guys got me so drunk that I passed out. It wasn't until the next day that I found out that they were taking pics with my topless body without my knowledge. I immediately withdrew from that school because the cop on campus nor the staff did a thing about the incident.

[@redredred8408]

round ugly spirit based animal vackseeen

[@John_Cole]

The Fraternities Leaders And Members Must Bring To Justice!

[@innerauthority]

I can barely watch this, it makes me totally ill. These poor souls. They didn't deserve this 😭😭😭

[@ednalegge9465]

Would be nice if this could be addressed in high school to prepare students how to handle these awful situations. It never was discussed in mine.

[@elisahuerta9035]

It was discussed at my high school, but my peers didn’t believe it happens. I hope they believe it now with all the stories coming out.

[@fergieferg9192]

Let your kids try alcohol before they go off to school. They can learn reasonable limits at home, and feel empowered to say no when being bullied into drinking too much.

[@bethanyoneal5789]

I agree. I think it’s fine for a teenager to drink alcohol to realize it’s effects, and see whether or not they like it. They can also get drunk (with supervision of course) so they can learn the potential consequences of it

[@maggyhamada2560]

How can you even encourage the drinking of alcohol? That's this issue here...despite all the facts we know about alcohol, despite all the deaths, violence , abuse , rapes, crimes and accidents we know have been a result of alcohol, you guys still encourage and accept drinking it. Our Creator did forbid alcohol for a reason and yet most choose to ignore His laws.

[@mje2112]

@@maggyhamada2560 because once you send your kid off to college, there’s no one to make sure they’re not drinking. If you’ve stopped them from consuming alcohol their entire life, they’re going to be curious and try it for the first time without your supervision and around folks that probably don’t care about their well-being. Best to educate them now before they hurt themselves later. I’ve grown up trying different drinks before, and since I went to college, I haven’t had a sip of alcohol nor had the urge to drink

[@youllbemytourniquet]

That’s not gonna help if they’re still being forced to drink an entire handle in an hour. You don’t need to try alcohol to know that’s gonna lead to alcohol poisoning

[@kaiaswrld]

@@maggyhamada2560 Yet he turned his own blood into wine ?? I grew up Catholic (went to Catholic school and mass 3x a year) and I have NEVER heard that alcohol is a sin. In Mormonism and some other religions it is but in regular Christianity/Catholicism it’s not. I agree that it’s super dangerous and should be more restricted tho.

[@rakijr9176]

The problem is that most of these kids who join fraternities have very limited experience with alcohol. I would occasionally drink beer or seltzer in high school but never anything harder than that. My first week of college I went to a party and managed to down a little over half a liter of vodka in under an hour and blacked out. The next morning I couldn't even drink water because I would throw it up immediately and it felt like someone repeatedly took a baseball bat to my stomach. I didn't touch any alcohol for over a year after that night. Even though it might sound cruel, I think students who join fraternities should be required to drink until they get the worst hangover ever but nothing more. Nothing made me respect alcohol more than that one experience.

[@wildhearts242]

Yeah I’m thinking most of these young men were sheltered. I had my first drink in high school (there’s always that one cool mom). So, I know immediately what shots of vodka can do! Before joining a fraternity they should have been exposed to liquor. These things wouldn’t keep happening. Sad.

[@mst_angel437]

I agree with you. Had the exact same thoughts, I also had my first drinks in high school, although I'd never consider a frat in the first place I definitely wouldn't reccomend a sheltered person just jump straight to liquor like that. Just some beer would do the trick, I hardly even touch liquor nowadays.. too many bad/blacked out memories for my taste lol

[@thepotatoofheaven]

or maybe get rid of alcohol hazing so incidents like this never happens?

[@kaiaswrld]

Some people don’t get hangovers tho, no matter how much they drink. Your idea is very dangerous and is what leads to alcohol poisoning.

[@yolimshump7303]

No man💔🥺 this is so sad and infuriating!!😢 poor kids and poor parents!! I’m so sorry to all the victims♥️

[@valentinacalvopina2254]

I felt sad for the family who lost her son and other family who almost lost her son why never filed death lawsuit It’s dangerous & emotional need to stop it before more dangerous

[@gamingwithcyt3925]

number 1 rule of life stand up for yourself and never be afraid to say NO

[@leenuhh_]

The fact they continue on with this hazing after somebody died is really confusing.

[@joeybaseball7352]

Look at the race of these people.

[@YourACun..t]

@@joeybaseball7352 at least you focking said it

[@mycatiswaysmarterthanmosto8500]

@@joeybaseball7352 wow....gross

[@HelloHello-zf2sv]

@@joeybaseball7352 which means what exactly?

[@joeybaseball7352]

@@HelloHello-zf2sv yes

[@outdoorsy01]

This was heartbreaking.

[@cj41079]

where is justice? someone or school should be held accountable.....

[@dawngroce7071]

Prayers for the family's and thanks for sharing your story 🙏 maybe it can save someone else brother or sister. God bless 🙌 🙏

[@22lyric]

*Think of all the professors, doctors, lawyers, other professionals that did horrendous things like this when THEY were in college.*

[@dalilagarcia7230]

It's heartbreaking that all these young men died because of the idiocy of others. All frats and sororities have rules against hazing, these dumbasses that cost the lives of others took advantage of their position in their organization.

[@PHlophe]

Dalilah, with fraternities its manhood test. its not going away. the one in france where a mixed guy died and the friends tried to cover up . its still talked about

[@iam2bear]

The entire frat house should be held on murder charges in each case. Hazing is bullying, and should be illegal.

[@angelamitchel3984]

I go to the school Adam Oakes went to. It really affects everyone at the school here, and big changes have been made. It still isn’t enough though - it is really the most frustrating thing to have so many deaths from such preventable things.

[@scottsent8120]

Freedom of choice. The changes will last a few years; then the new students and staff will forget Adam and the changes they made, until the next hazing death.

[@mathewjoseph2237]

This is why career colleges need to be seen as a real form of education. These types of behaviour is unacceptable in such schools.

[@gmaskdrawz]

These dudes out here getting drunk and killing each other with alcohol, meanwhile I'm here playing video games by myself all night long.

[@uglyhobo4602]

Being a loner and having, online "friends" isn't healthy.

[@gmaskdrawz]

@@uglyhobo4602 You right, but at least no one is forcing me to drink alcohol underage. The drinking age in my state is 21.

[@RabidDisposition]

@@uglyhobo4602 killing yourself from alcohol poisoning just to get a bunch of guys to like you is far, far worse.

[@Xane_Dragon]

@@uglyhobo4602 oh really....this video shows you what friends can do 😑

[@marcolopez5672]

@@uglyhobo4602 yea but now im playing ps5 gold permanent teeth on, gold chains rings and 6ft up

[@willd.4808]

These poor men & families...I hope this educates people & encourages victims to report. No clout is worth losing a life

[@Diana734]

This is ridiculous. If a Frat does this they do not need to be recruiting anyone or operate with college attendees in charge.

[@cannabine413]

Why aren't the parents suing the kids or the college??? This kid is gonna need 24/7 care!!!

[@majorpayne100]

Don’t fall into negative peer pressure

[@Tylandsworld]

God bless the victims and the families

[@djungelskogsn7529]

Danny's pledge father went to my high school, it's absolutely despicable. And given the culture of my high school it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[@djungelskogsn7529]

I may also add this fraternity at a college that's a little over an hour south of where I go, was on double probation at the time.

[@jenniferpollard9571]

This celebration of ignorance and inhumanity needs to be severely punished!

[@Eastsid3]

It seems like talking about peer pressure became "corny" and belong on old after school specials. All these kids need to know it's this is dangerous, stupid and probably won't get you the respect you think you will.

[@janetmcdonald2572]

Horrific. I am sorry these families have to go through this.

[@MusicFreak61594]

The colleges need to be held accountable as well

[@lolipopi]

May all those men rest in peace

[@mrssamuel1332]

In these situations I hold the victims responsible just as much as the ones who come up with these dumb ideas. Alcohol is not water and you can abuse it and put yourself in danger. we all know what too much alcohol does so they did it at there own risk. It's sad that those kids wanted to be accepted so bad they was willing to do anything. They could have said no and walked away but they wanted popularity and acceptance from the group over their health.

[@DemarcusQ]

It’s always been hard to be the one to act like an adult around the rest of your young friends because it’s so easy to make fun of someone for it.. that’s why we should trigger the way men carry themselves beginning at home mainly when they’re kids.

[@tl1533]

The question you want to ask is why the fraternity is still supported financially by some rich parents.

[@TheStamps]

This is devastating

[@creativegenius4671]

This is what happens when u believe in things you don't understand.... u suffer ... Parents; instead of sending your children off to places u think they belong..teach them to love themselves better.. Condolences to the families 🙏🏿

[@inaratumu3757]

These fraternities need to be held accountable. Why do students feel like they need to join fraternity.

[@garycarpenter2980]

I never went to college but I've seen several movies that have that but if my kid wants to go it's up to them I'm not forcing them to go.... these frats should be stopped.... permanently

[@majorpayne100]

Say no to drugs and alcohol 🍺

[@jonathanluck8408]

A handle of hard licqour in under an hour is honestly suicide... Can't believe no one batted an eye to how fatal that might be

[@NealBurkard-ut1oo]

Yeah thats literally not achievable. An average man's BAC would spike at .7, which is about double fatal level

[@feliciatran5667]

Sending my condolences to the Adam Oakes family who was hazed from his frat at VCU, again 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶

[@janetdear6429]

BAN HAZING, too many lives lost,and ruined because of it. May the victims rest in peace, 🙏🖤

[@tman4915]

It’s incredibly upsetting to see these people lost their lives. These fraternity hazing‘s need to stop they’re very senseless and could be downright deadly.

[@redredred8408]

*vaccine existing* is to *20th booster* AS *running stop signs* is to *T-bone accident*

[@Davidgon100]

That's crazy. I used to be an alcoholic and at most I could drink like half a bottle in 1 entire day. To drink an entire bottle in a couple of hours is asking for death.

[@chuuu4610]

I grew up and went through university in Canada. I had no idea what a fraternity or sorority was until I started seeing hazing stories from the UK and US. I went to a top 5 ranked university in the country… did not know that we had them until after graduating. Where I went, during orientation they just gave us a speech about us being the future thought leaders of the country, they played some bagpipes for us, and we got cheap veggie burgers.

[@grandmaj5046]

Being accepted is not worth losing your life for.

[@Auron12786]

Hazing is basically why I never even considered joining Greek life during my college years. I already suffered bullying during my k-9 years, and was even suicidal during grades 5-6. I didn’t need any more on top of that

[@Ash-xl3nb]

That's why you educate your kids not to succumb to peer pressure. Those guys could of prevented their demise if they said no and walked away .those types of people aren't going to look out for you or care about your best interest, it's up to you .