Grilling the J-Mods about Sailing | Old School RuneScape Q&A

Ahoy! Welcome to our latest Sailing Q&A.
Join Mods Husky, Kieren, and Elena for a roundtable discussion about the most important questions asked of Sailing so far.
Check out what they had to say!
00:00 - Introduction
00:37 - How is Sailing a skill, rather than an expansion?
03:33 - Is Sailing a minigame?
07:22 - Excluding the sea, what presence does Sailing have in the world?
12:03 - We already have methods of transport in-game, so why do we need Sailing?
13:54 - Does Sailing rely too much on other skills?
16:12 - Why introduce a new skill when older skills could be updated?
18:42 - Is Sailing just sea Sepulchre or water Agility?
25:58 - What happens after ‘’Lock In’’ if Sailing passes?
29:36 - What happens after ‘’Lock In’’ if Sailing doesn’t pass?
30:51 - Could Sailing be released, but not as a skill?
37:30 - How will you approach things like the HiScores and Max Cape?
41:09 - Is Sailing going to be available in F2P?
41:29 - What are you most excited about when it comes to Sailing?
46:44 - How have you found the experience of working alongside so many Community Content Creators?
53:28 - Why should players vote Yes to Sailing?
56:38 - Outro
#OSRSMobile #OldSchoolRS #OldSchoolRuneScape #OSRS #RuneScape #osrsnewskill #sailing

[@LumbridgeLounge]

I can’t believe they decided to play sea shanty 2 on loop for an hour lol.

[@kozhedub]

I loved every minute

[@BigLad513]

Makes sense seen as though they're talking about sailing 😊

[@christophermartinez6479]

i thought you were trolling since i couldn't hear it until I turned up the sound LOL

[@tyrellbosley2607]

Um well it kind of makes sense, considering an update about being on the sea and using boats

[@TakiruScape]

Get ready to hear it in every guide

[@xthescootermanx]

If this passes im all for the following: 1. A grandmaster quest that finishes off the slug menace story line and adds new bosses that drop materials to get us some upgraded proselyte armor. 2. a Clan port where we can show off our boats. 3. a squid/turtle pet

[@juliefj3dis3aopf7jsm9d]

ooh, upgraded proselyte would be great!

[@RuneBottle]

Please put aerial fishing into sailing so it’s not just on that one island

[@genericusername2598]

This would be interesting

[@theinfamousllama7796]

With better pearl catch rates because fml.

[@Heihachi_Joestar]

a new method called seafishing

[@GooTheMighty]

@@theinfamousllama7796 AGREED

[@ltbeefy9054]

and make the pearl rate better.

[@FuckYoutubeHandles]

I was lowkey against a new skill but seeing your guys passion and views gives me a bit of confidence on the whole thing

[@FuckYoutubeHandles]

@@MarieJeanne damn I don't remember saying that?

[@stunphy8286]

Y'all still doubt these video game making gods

[@PrismaticaDev]

Honestly, with the current line up of content developers... Just let them cook. Husky smashed it with his very first project (Forthos Dungeon) and hasn't disappointed since. It's so rare to see such passionate and game-knowledgeable devs in a project this massive.

[@sbef]

I didn't like the idea at first, but the planned scope for Sailing and the passion the dev team has for it turned me into a yes, absolutely vote. Looking forward to see more how it plays out!

[@hedoragen]

Agreed. I was the same way. I'm so excited for it now

[@tonywhite7753]

Would love it if the ships could carry supplies and loot for bossing at POIs. So instead of teleing "banking" re gear and teleport back. Could be sail to POI geared up and setup with supplies. And you can "bank" at the ship depositing loot and resupplying.

[@Luke-2153]

Yeah similar to the chest at cox, so you can’t take an infinite amount of resources but you could take another 28slots. The scope for this skill has me so hyped haha

[@christiannobile9981]

Broo cool, so on an island there’s no port, you would have to use a towing hout and u can go back to your ship to bank

[@justinthibault5823]

But thats literally the same as just a bank?

[@zeph6182]

@@Luke-2153 Man I hated the feeling of needing a pak-yak everywhere but I really like this idea for extending trips at most places without a bank, like lemme sail to Vorkath with a bunch of supplies in my ship, gets rid of the need for an alt entirely in those situations

[@MrScale241]

I think what they said was player designed islands not player owned islands. However player owned islands sounds fun as sort of a base for you to work from outside of ports

[@tryhardtr3nt]

I'm sooooooo excited for this!!! Let's get this passed fellas!!!

[@Jaguaist]

I am looking forward to this, thank you all for the hard work you do!

[@Hackerman9000]

stoked for sailing 😃

[@mjohnson9591]

if yall guys/gals see this from jagex im pumped AF for sailing im looking forward to exploring and getting into the new content and exploring it. Tbf I voted for shamanism but im so excited what this team will bring to the table. you just see how much mod Elian is smiling talking about the content im so pumped

[@ValTheMad]

I look forward to Sailing, I hope it makes it into the game

[@burrmuda848]

These updates are amazing, thank you!

[@tryhardtr3nt]

Let him cook in Husky we trust 😂

[@spudeeelad]

I was initially very worried about sailing but as refinement has progressed and detail and scope become clearer, I like it. Yes from me.

[@coreybohannon]

The mods are doing great, I appreciate everything yall do for this community

[@WiscoDbo]

Tropical island themed POH. Give me a boarder of ocean instead of a black void.

[@basb7545]

I'm so excited for this, imagine the possibilities

[@salveritual]

Great work! I am excited to the team to prepared to deliver the final product.

[@mightycrow7]

I prefer the old style of Q and A with Mod Ash and his cups of tea!

[@DanielSultana]

How far can you boost construction?

[@repetitivemusicenthusiast]

I was someone who was big on this is an expansion not a skill, but the way he describes it with how other skills came into the game with cities around it makes sense. In 2023 if they just did like 1 port city with this skill people would be so fucking mad. Good shout I am HYPE

[@ZesTheMaze]

This skill is gonna blow us out of the water! pun ofc intended

[@avarageguthansenjoyer32]

Ahoy ahoy me shivers be timbered i cant wait for the new skill

[@azure_dreams]

In all honesty if you just make it so we can decorate the hell out of our ships size/colour/furniture/rugs/armour/chests/weapons etc you'll sell the skill to so many players, and also allows you to integrate all the already in game items into materials for decorations even if that doesn't give sailing xp as long as this skill gives me a afkable concept like sending my crew off on a 2h journey to return and get a bit of xp and random rewards like gems gold minerals idk.. but i really feel you can do good with this as long as you don't ruin the whole 'crew' side of this i want to have a giant Viking ship that looks awesome and a crew of Fremennik pirates sailing around looting stuff for me surely i'm not alone.

[@solarblitz4524]

That would be cool. Themed ships based around groups in the game like Thieves, Mages, or the gods and making a badass looking ship would be fun in itself

[@BroScro]

u are not alone brother

[@azure_dreams]

@@solarblitz4524 exactly man this could open up a whole concept to even equip crew mates with items and allow them to be visable so the ship has a whole colour theme, different banners with the sails or something i was orginally against a new skill but this idea really fits well when you think about it theres already so many ports in Runescape, i hope they make ship racing a mini game for players XD make it not go dead by giving ship cosmetics or something haha

[@basb7545]

Don't forget to breathe mate

[@tc9643]

I think you're right about the customisation attracting more players. That being said, I don't want to see custom ships that look as ridiculous as custom characters in some video games. There should be limits

[@a735xy3]

Integrating even small bits of sailing into those bosses that need a boat to get to it ; is just icing on the cake for me.

[@AberrantSpectre]

I started playing Runescape almost 20 years ago. I have high standards for content. I am completely 100% in favour of Sailing. Vote YES guys! :)

[@QuestingSushi]

I'm glad sailing is getting a second wind, I was bummed out when it got stopped years ago. More content from a team like this is always good in my book, they always work to refine content until it's just right.

[@rapier8886]

love to see such passion. you guys are crushing it keep it up!

[@LunnyHD]

must be really painful as a dev team to see so much passive agressive and braindead feedback from players who think 20 years of playing this game makes them a qualified game designer. "We want a skill not a minigame" is such a 1 dimensional take. A skill released in 2023 is naturally going to have many more layers than a skill released in 2015

[@KnightD345]

Most of the people anti sailing didn’t play in 07. We used to get new skills all the time, it’s part of the classic osrs experience. These scrubs hopped on in 2010 or later and only got to see poor skill implementation and it’s effects.

[@SupachargedGaming]

Just because something is a "minigame" doesn't make it small. Check out Decked Out (2) by TangoTek, a minecraft "minigame" built entirely in survival. Ain't nothing small about that. THAT BEING SAID... A skill that cannot fit onto any of the existing landmass, short of a few "recruit an NPC" moments and possibly building/buying/thieving? a ship... is going to feel like a minigame. They can add all the content they want, they can make it the largest minigame ever, in any game... It's still going to feel separate from the rest of the world because, well, it is. Look at the current existing skills. Can you train them anywhere? No. Could you though? Absolutely. There's no reason (besides polls and interest) they couldn't add a hunting method in Lumbridge Swamp. Or a mining spot outside the woodcutting guild. Or a slayer mob/boss somewhere in Rimmington. Or an activity for any other skill.. anywhere in the game. Then there's sailing. As mentioned, they can put those "hire an NPC"s anywhere. They can add to existing locations the option to make, buy, steal or otherwise acquire a boat... But they aren't adding air-sailing. That boat isn't going ANYWHERE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS. So, despite the scope of the "skill", despite whatever they may add to it... That feeling will remain. That sense that it is a minigame. It lives and dies by its rewards.

[@fetty__]

I feel like it's generally the less experienced players being against the idea of sailing.

[@djyankees002]

“Skill” also has such a nebulous definition that complainers can twist it to mean whatever sailing isn’t. Pretty much every other skill is supported by and supports other skills. So many skills are primarily vehicles for minigames (eg firemaking, smithing, runecrafting). I’d respect the foamers more if they just said “I just don’t want it.” At least they’d finally be honest with themselves

[@lemoncake6957]

@@KnightD345 "Most of the people anti sailing didn’t play in 07" Rather bold statement to make. Just because somebody has a different opinon to you they are immediately wrong? Lol.

[@Corzappy]

My only issue with the sailing skill is that it honestly feels like there’s TOO much stuff. Like the only other skill that gate keeps a comparable quantity of content is Slayer. Take a look at like Hunter for example, the biggest piece of content you’re getting from Hunter is like Herbiboar and Chinchompas. But if with sailing you’re unlocking bossing, skilling, mini games, customization and cosmetics, new items and equipment, and new materials. No other skill does that.

[@plum999o]

I totally get this, though construction is sorta similar

[@TenaciousGamingTV]

Okay so I understand what you’re saying. They have already said that most of the stuff won’t go into in the game day 1 of the skills release. It will be gradual like how skills like woodcutting and smithing have gotten updates

[@Corzappy]

@@TenaciousGamingTV Yeah but not even woodcutting has that much content. Like the most in depth content for woodcutting right now is forestry and sulliusceps. Even a really in depth skill like runecrafting honestly doesn't compare to sailing. There's the abyss which is basically just a portal nexus for altars, there's dark and daeyalt essence, and there's guardians of the rift. Idk it just seems to me like sailing is going to be leaps and bounds more interesting than any other skill, and that's not a bad thing, but it also makes it a lot more evident that other skills are severely lacking. And even if they do add more content to the other skills, I feel like it's realistically just going to be a skilling minigame, as it's been for every other skill so far.

[@glsm_]

​@@Corzappy I think that's right; it's not that Sailing has too much, but that existing skills have too little. I think it would be worth eventually refining existing skills in order to broaden them out a bit. And the way to do that is both adding more skilling minigames and adding other skilling content. I think Sailing is not the only demonstrator of this; skills like Thieving and Magic are probably good examples of the diversity and versatility we want within a skill.

[@jaguarj1942]

One thing you have to remember is that it won’t be as huge on release. The core gameplay will polled separately from a lot of the interactions. They have just designed it in a way that it can grow post release.

[@apexrhino2195]

so happy for the team! YES TO SAIL!!!

[@InsightProject]

Kieren a chad for wearing that shirt lmao

[@UnIockables]

Always so much more engaging having these chats in person rather than over video calls. Looking forward to listening to this one!

[@GooTheMighty]

They should add a giant clam called “Shellvarg” as a sailing quest boss!

[@totemtv5116]

I love that crafting construction and smithing will work with sailing! Hell yeah!

[@yuyuyu312]

So tired of people saying this is a mini-game and them having to waste time explaining that it isn't over and over... It's clearly not a mini-game, so lets all agree to move on from that exceedingly dumb take! Very excited for Sailing and thank you for all the work put into this!!

[@Codyyster]

Honestly, I want the skill to pass so we can get all the juicy island locked iron accounts! The content would be top notch. 😅

[@YewJackOSRS]

As a transportation only ironman, I greatly appreciate a new way to transport myself around the map. Not a lot of us out there, but the few of us are quite happy. 😁

[@dopeysith5503]

Sailing quest series?! yes!!

[@Ahrimas]

I didnt really get sailing at first (shamanism frog here). But since the tech demo im 100% onboard and every blog makes me more confident

[@juliefj3dis3aopf7jsm9d]

Same, I was on board after the tech demo!

[@currentcommerce4774]

sailing is gonna be a massive W update, and bring so many ppl back to the game the new pathfinding mechanics alone is extremely exciting, let alone how ship combat plays out

[@plum999o]

SO excited for sailing, legit haven't been this excited since OSRS launched

[@luketargett2233]

This is awesome, can really tell these people understand and care about the community!!!

[@YellowTissueBox]

Love these devs! Some of the best in the business. So many players have no idea how good we have it. Thanks for all your hard work!

[@birdenthusiast5421]

I'm so glad Mod Elena shared my undying enthusiasm for Floopa and the Turtle-people

[@GuitarGuyRy]

So Excited!!!!

[@bip7762]

Will players be able to undo max cape variants and receive the other cape? Currently there's no way to reverse the max infernal cape and get the infernal cape back, so by not adding a method of returning infernal capes the people who only have one cape, either 1kc, or gambled away extra capes for pet, or people who hired 3rd parties, will have to either redo the inferno, or get 99 sailing, before being able to use an infernal cape again. An argument in favor of not giving the infernal cape back is you would remove some infernal capes from the game from players who both paid a service for an infernal cape, and maxed their account. But this only stays true until those players achieve 99 sailing, or pay someone for another cape. My guess is more people who have legit capes would be affected, but I could be wrong. Apologies if this has already been answered, and if so please link to the devs original response.

[@Lvl3NPC]

I'm really looking forward to Sailing. I'd suggest anyone that's rightfully doubtful about it (a new skill is a massive thing) takes the view that the benefit of Sailing is that opens up so many other things and interacts with many other skills. Even if it launches a bit rocky, I believe in the spirit the Old School team is approaching it with. The devs have a lot of love for the game and I think we should trust them and give feedback as needed.

[@BenaiahKing]

nah my son said let him cook hold up hold up xD

[@glenwade2298]

i want a quest where your ship in a bottle item breaks and your ship is stuck small then you have to fight a duck in a pond with your ship after you and the crew get shrunk down

[@L1ghtweaver]

In terms of communication about game updates, the OSRS team is the best in the industry, hands down. Anything else aside, ya gotta givem props on that.

[@jack-yi1zf]

Hey guys i see this as the first real opportunity to make a world/global boss where all players on a world get a notification for example "A legendary kraken has emerged in the ocean east of kourend" and you could see everyone rushing for their boats and unleashing their cannons, this would be so incredible!

[@jackiemag4926]

I have wanted to sail the seas of gilinor since i first set foot in the port of sarim so long ago lol

[@rashonmyeed]

so hyped for this!

[@demo7421]

This makes me more confident about the skill, I wasn't sure at first but if it is truely integrated to the current game, quests and environment I think it could be amazing.

[@SOCOMJOHN]

this is exactly how I expected mods in OSRS to look.

[@bigtrolly]

I never understood the 'it's not a skill it's a minigame'-criticism. Would these people rather train to level 50 using one single method and have the devs add a minigame afterwards to train to level 99? Would it then be considered a skill if that was the case? I'd rather see an incredibly detailed and expansive minigame to be implemented as a skill than dumping money and bankstanding till I hit 99. I don't get why it seeming like a minigame is such a bad thing.

[@richardsayers1952]

Love mod Kieran's middle finger tshirt

[@ZixxtyOSRS]

im excited to level skills again :)

[@twistedsk8]

devs here are so much better than i see elsewhere

[@stanc1858]

Thats a fucking good one dude. LMAO

[@ivo435]

I cant wait for sailing :)

[@MrRandomguy1162]

I was super against Sailing and wanted a repoll vs shamanism and sailing i planed to spite vote no to sailing but recognizing the effort jagex has put into the skill and recent content like dt2 i have faith in what theyre doing for our game and now plan to support and vote yes to sailing keep up the great work

[@AurumKHK]

I'd be quite interested in seeing some amount of customization for our ships! The flags/colors, figureheads, etc would be cool!

[@-Owen-]

Sailing! great job.

[@Heihachi_Joestar]

Can you use thralls to steer the ship?

[@flatutlencetheunending]

this skill is exactly what osrs needs. it can tie everything in the game together into 1 activity and give people a reason to play together besides raids

[@Jacob-mw2uz]

Make racing the same thing as club penguin sled racing and I will be happy.

[@coltenyoder9277]

Great show

[@MrCoolguy106]

So excited

[@stooge389]

Love the point Husky made about players being done with skills. An example: I've got 99 construction. My house is maxed. I'm never going to actively train construction again. Other than the occaisional STASH unit to be built, I'm never going to do construction again. So if there are suddenly construction activities on sailing, that completely revitalizes construction!!

[@KnightD345]

Would love the idea of massive item sinks for building sailing apparatus. I.e. maybe different high cannon tiers require something like a Godsword or other rare weapons be smithed into it, which gives it an effect equivalent to the sword/weapon used. I.e. a dragon war hammer forged into a cannon removes and war hammer from game and also provides a special effect to your cannon similar to the special attack. I would love to see how this could implement into some crazy combat combinations with some deep sea leviathan level monsters with ridiculous amounts of health

[@CellyCelldoe]

Isn't this what shamanism was gonna be like?

[@skurptheyurp]

I love how Kierans shirt is just a skeletal middle finger lmao, did not expect that to get past PR

[@collegezoomer]

Would love to eventually see whaling become apart of sailing, either through a mini-game or a combination of hunter and/or slayer.

[@sbz666_]

Great idea. Would be a perfect addition to Hunter. Whale Oil for Firemaking? 👀

[@glsm_]

If you look through the blogs, you'll find the devs suggested a similar activity! It's called Sea Monster Hunting, and would involve Sailing, Hunter, and Slayer!

[@xperiens4699]

Why vote yes? For me it's a gate to so many new updates. I love to see the devs work and I believe in them

[@TenaciousGamingTV]

People don’t realize sailing is the only skill that was pitched that has the ability to be a whole expansion to the game. That’s why it’s so cool

[@KhmerShadow]

I think it would be interesting to link old school sailing with that other runescape game’s player owned ports like they can hire us to sail to a location for them

[@kenko7735]

I don’t understand the complaints of it sounding like a “minigame” when Forestry, Wintertodt, GotR and Tempoross all fundamentally changed skills for the better- whether you like those or not. I don’t mind a game feeling more game-y and less grind-y. I was sailing against the winds on sailing during the initial skill pitch, but I’m more and more optimistic about it as time goes on. I think a big expansion like this could push a good spark of life back into the game.

[@Corzappy]

I think the underlying complaint here is that the go-to solution for making a skill less shit is to just add a skilling mini game rather than add a true content addition. Like updating fishing could’ve easily just been adding new fish, but what they did with arial fishing meant that the “update” fell flat on it’s face because it didn’t offer competitive xp rates, the rewards were dogshit, and it was way too click intensive. The only reason tempoross is popular is that it has multiple BIS fishing equipment unlocks alongside significant xp/hr and new unique items like the time of water. And that’s also the only reason GOTR or Wintertodt is popular, the mini games themselves aren’t the good part, it’s the rewards. Herbiboar is a good example of a well done skill update, do Hunter, and get herbs and a cool pet, no mini game required.

[@billybryant99]

@@Corzappy In the same sense Herbiboar is also done for the rewards though, that's true of all content.

[@Corzappy]

​@@billybryant99 That's exactly my point. People do content because of the rewards, most skilling minigames aren't actually all that fun, and people only do them because the rewards are good. The exact same result could be achieved by simply adding new training methods and also adding new rewards to the skill.

[@kozhedub]

I'm convinced. Will be voting yes 👍👍 didn't want this the first time it was proposed for old school but clearly a lot of thought went into addressing player concerns. "No new skills" is a boring and stubborn position to have

[@someguyfromtheinternet5158]

idk why but when i think about sailing your own ship i get thoughts of full customisation and flashbacks to the lego racing game on the ps1 building my own car.

[@FlavaTheRipper]

If they do bosses on islands and you have to manually manuveur the ship until they hit a level to unlock like a challenge run between the two points. (something tricky but not too hard). Then they have earned 'port to boss island mastery'. Then they can have an equivilent to magic teleport to the island from the ship and get a little exp pop in sailing every time they do it.

[@ZeusKnocksYouOut]

wish they repolled just sailing and shamanism since they were so close to one another and having a third option in there diluted the vote quite a bit. That being said, sailing mixed with slayer, hunter, fishing, mining, farming etc is kinda a cool idea. Just hope its actually fun to do. If we have ship battles with sea monsters that include boss mechanics for slayer xp that does seem pretty cool.

[@Niewy]

Dungeoneering was a Minigame you named it a skill , but its still a minigame with a minigame reward shop

[@thedislikebutton6589]

Dugeoneering was locked to that one corner of the map with instanced content that is just generated dungeons/raids. Sailing has content across the map variety of training methods, and most importantly EXPANDS the game by adding a new mechanic(s). Much like woodcutting added tree chopping, construction added houses, prayer expanded on combat, ect. Dungeoneering feels like a minigame because it doesn't expand on content, it doesn't add anything new, and it's pvm content that feels like a raid. Sailing is nothing like dungeoneering

[@kalef1234]

Ugh now im being sucked back into this game. Havent played in like 2 years but i logged in yesterday 😅

[@thegonz701]

I'm disappointed that ship combat hasn't been discussed yet. How does it work? Do I click to attack? Do I load cannons and it automatically hits a target or is it like a skill shot that needs to be aimed? Am I running back and forth between steering the ship and loading cannons? Please make a demo like the navigation demo before polling sailing. I'm a huge fan of sailing, but it bothers me that every livestream goes to answering the same question of "why sailing isn't a mini game?" and not "how will combat on a ship work?"

[@ericacton7767]

love this game :)

[@florida_man1809]

I am not big on adding a bunch of new things into this game, but sailing looks neat and has my vote! JUST DON'T TURN OSRS INTO RS3 2.0!

[@Exeile]

I’ve just finished all the achievement diaries saving my xp for this lol

[@Chimaira222]

man i would love if yall added off-shore drilling as your mining at sea joke

[@DB-Slugz]

Can I put under glow on my ship? Or turbos?

[@lm-Wilhelm]

I think these guys love what they do and it shows in the quality of updates they provide the vast majority of the time, even if it doesn't seem to show in these Q&As sometimes :'D not a criticism just an observation. I wouldn't be comfortable infront of a camera either. As for people trying to define the difference between a skill, an expansion, a minigame blah blah I think it's just desperate criticism and it's absolutely fine for these different game modes/structures to share traits. Surely that versatility is the foundation of a solid enjoyable game.

[@RSSailing-ts2op]

This will be a golden invention for the history of this game.

[@dgro]

For the archiving of hiscores, archive the 4.6b xp people only

[@OnePeace117]

I was team shamanism. But I have faith in the mods. If the final sailing pitch is clean and complete. I'm voting, yes

[@stretchymc5126]

Elena's shoes look fresh as heck

[@SeisoYabai]

I feel like the big disconnect for me is the scope itself. Hopefully it all turns out amazing and raises the bar for other skills, cause right now by what they're describing most other skills really pale in comparison to what they're offering. I mean, look at construction, which is such a powerful, useful skill but is entirely one-dimensional - you build your house, and that's it's use. Then you have the opposite end in firemaking, where it has little to no utility or interaction with other systems, or hunter which has a LOT of variety and things to do but is still pretty much mono-use. What I'm getting at is, Sailing feels like it will be so different than anything else and that is why players are worried it might turn out more like an expansion than a skill. Still, I think it'll be great for the game and hopefully one day we can take another look at taming and shamanism.

[@DvourZz]

Phasmatys ghost ship PLZ

[@3tickurnan]

spice is the variety of life

[@VandarAlden]

When they talked about agility I was thinking about giving it a treatment where you can use off road paths to train agility on the way from one area to the next. It would integrate the shortcuts and training more fully into the world. Sure a training course would be optimised for more xp but then it is not two seperate activities.

[@VandarAlden]

Also, if we are adding new skills I think agility should be moved free to play. I don't think it should be common for skills to move ftp but agility now has the infrastructure to do ftp with rooftop stuff. I also think that it would add value to membership if you do a bunch of ftp before getting membership then having the ability to run for longer when exploring the world would help you to feel like you can get to the new content. You don't need to make agility super accessible ftp just available.

[@oktheneggscape5759]

I look forward to seeing what the team presents. If this shit upsets you maybe it’s time to take a break from osrs

[@Bioniclema90]

At this point, agreed. Literally wtf do you want if you don't want Sailing?

[@anthonyaguiarMA]

Agreed.

[@index52]

Honestly cant see why people are complaining about getting more content. We are able to play the game we love from years past and its being improved upon. Even getting new content and yet people find ways to complain. I am all for sailing and anything added for it. Let me double check how cool Fletching and Agility are to train compared to what this is shaping up to be.

[@stanc1858]

because 90% of the content in this game is dead content. Make the dead content more interesting instead.