Grim Workshop Lock Pick Dog Tags

[@LockNoob]

Some good, some bad, all cool! I’m reviewing all of Grim Workshop’s lock picking dog tags today! 😃👍

[@lockhak33]

I've been hoping for quite a while that someone who really knows how to pick locks would do a video on the Grim Workshop's picks. Thank you for covering this!

[@yiddo3176]

Why do you not review the Lishi lock picks? Can they be used with euro locks or are they specifically for american locks...

[@sigmaman5562]

@@yiddo3176 The Lishi picks are made for certain keyways. The vast majority of them are for car locks. The few cylinder keyways of which I have heard are KW-1 (5-pin Kwikset) and SC-1 (5-pin Schlage C), those being the most used. SC-4 (6-pin C), and SC-20 (6-pin Schlage C, CE, and E through L) and M-1 (Master’s original keyway) also exist. Other companies-so far, at least (2022 March)-have yet to arrive. Yale, Corbin and/or Russwin, Lockwood, et cetera, might be coming, but do not hold your breath waiting for them!

[@erichkitzmueller]

A small victory for the Master Lock 3 at last, who would have expected that? Ever?

[@Chuycabra]

That first set must be what Master Lock uses for their security scale! 🤣

[@chris15252]

This is more of just a trivial detail that has nothing to do with the tools themselves. But the black rubber things are called silencers and they’re meant to keep the tags from clacking together and making noise. Great review though!

[@xxjusxstarxx]

Anyone's whose ever had to wear them for a living knows they collect alot of grime lol

[@penfold7800]

Yeah, you could easilly sandwich the two useful ones in-between two actual dogtags within that surround and it would be fairly un noticeable. I would use them more as a talking point personally. I would probably integrate a decoding tool in that setup too.

[@LockNoob]

Agreed

[@conradhardman7254]

I only found the website a few days ago and was looking at getting them. Then you review them a few days later ACE. Good review.

[@keithroberts5946]

Thanks for that review - very informative and interesting Nice to see an impartial review

[@fishpicks4531]

Ash - I believe that typically the shorter chain is used along with the longer length so that the tag sits flat against the chest - if the tags are just threaded through the longer chain, you’ll notice that it tends to sit off at a slight angle and if you are then taking body plates or a ruck on and off, they can dig into the sternum. 😉

[@penfold7800]

I didn't know that. I wonder if the chains with these are stainless steel? I've had a few cheap ones that weren't that corroded very quickly.

[@constitutionalpatriot6797]

FWIW, the surround is to keep them from jingling or rattling together, which could give away your position.

[@auroraringz]

I was wondering about these. Thanks!

[@allindonmontesco]

I could sorta relate with the pick being too thick for the master 3. I was getting frustrated with everybody saying the masterlock 3 has a wide keyway while I can't even pick it open once. Turns out my chinese pick is just too thick at 0.032". Took my pick to the grinder and got the lock open.

[@pville5548]

If I am not mistaken, at least during the Vietnam war, the G.I. was issued 2 dog tags and they came with the long and short chain. The short chain was attached through the long chain so that the 2 dog tags hung at different lengths. 2 dog tags were issued so that if you were killed on the battlefield, your comrades could take one of the tags and turn in to command while the 2nd remained with the body. I have both of my dog tags and the two chains.

[@penfold7800]

It's good to know you made it back. I wonder if some soldiers wore them with paracord instead of the chain, so at a pinch, you had a handy string saw.

[@markhicks371]

Great review, been to there Web shop, some other interesting pick kits there, worth a look and more reviews, also we'll priced...

[@arrrg3846]

Perfect Valentine's Day gifts for a LPGF. :)

[@garyanvil2354]

That's a good idea i don't carry picks every day but I would wear that every day I think the wave rakes would be handy

[@lmars5933]

We can always count on you for a honest review thank you 😎

[@SilktheAbsent1]

I wonder... That "rake" from the first one *almost* looks like it might work as a comb pick in a Master 140. If you still have it, maybe give it a try?

[@newhouselockandkey]

I would recommend modifying the first one to make a short hook and angling the front of the rake and shortening the peaks and possibly thinning them to make them useful

[@bradw0535]

I think, in a pinch, these could work, or be "adjusted" to work for some basic locks. Pretty neat all around 👌

[@dillonpatterson4310]

I feel like the first "rake" you were inspecting was supposed to be a bump key. But that's just a guess since I have no idea what the "hook" would be lol.

[@PocketWomen]

Pretty cool sets. I would have liked to see how well the escape set went against a cable tie that was being worn, thanks for this review, cheers

[@penfold7800]

Of course, there's always the probability that you can use the handcuff shim to shim open zip tie cuffs too

[@KaneFanChuck]

could you use the single peak rake as a pick if flipped over?

[@Leonslockpad]

great video Ash mate hope your all well🇬🇧🤟😊😎👊👍

[@NomadicHacker.]

Definitely need some of those

[@saschaschneider6355]

I don't think either is really usable "in the real world" - but those serve well as lock picking trinkets. And yes, those really look cool.

[@RAkers-tu1ey]

Question: I see you used a vice to pick the locks, I presume this was for the benefit of the camera. Did you try to pick the locks in your hand, to simulate a more "field" condition? How did that go? I see another collaborating in your future.

[@mattwilliams4215]

Has Grimworkshop responded to your review? As an aside, I think the other manufacturers should jump on their too retention backing idea.

[@LockNoob]

No, but I tagged them on Insta and Twitter. I think I was pretty positive overall

[@xxjusxstarxx]

Idea is cool but they look a lil too bulky to fit in a lot of the keyways and have too small a handle , for an actual good sized kit I recommend are the credit card sized stamped ones. They are like the survival cards that go in your wallet but there's a few different brand lock picks and I recommend them more honestly cause you always take your wallet with you, and a survival tool or emergency tool is only useful if you remember to bring it

[@andrewpadmore4838]

Could you try the first rake as a bump key?

[@penfold7800]

Nope, it doesn't have enough angle in the cuts, so it would get stuck behind the pins. You could use it to purposefully jam a lock though.

[@bigred35089]

Great review thank you

[@LockNoob]

Thanks 😊

[@madcapmagician6018]

so the first dog tag tools don't work so well, but it seems that the manufacturer made it so you can reuse them hence the sticky backing to put them back.. so could you modify the lock picks to work properly???

[@bradfry5403]

Great review , it could be that I wasn't listening , the price would have been helpful.

[@KaneFanChuck]

I believe he said they were around $8 a piece

[@MONTY-YTNOM]

re watch it then

[@jmr]

They should stop selling the first one. The second one is nice but some very minor improvements might be possible to make it work with other types of handcuffs beyond standard Smith and Wesson style. A little notch to make it past warding. That final one is pretty good as well. I might get one to play with. Biggest problem with the handcuff key for a real world situation. Dog tags go in front and handcuffs go in back. Put that thing on the back of a belt! (Check local laws - I believe handcuff keys might be illegal in more states then lock picks in the US)

[@ivanmoody1043]

What is a quality pick set that is not going to cost a whole lot I seen sparrows I've seen Southord I'm just hoping you know of something of similar quality but for less money

[@penfold7800]

A small sparrows set will last much longer and be more useful than 10 Chinese sets for the same money. You can also buy single picks from most of the main suppliers, so it is fairly inexpensive to get the set you need. For example, a short, medium and reach hook and a half diamond, all in two thicknesses (18thou and 23thou) together with three double ended tension wrenches in the three thicknesses (11 tools all together) will be the best initial investment towards your hobby you're likely to make.

[@mariogiordano6917]

the first card that didn't work with the master .... maybe it could work with a small dimple lock ??

[@frank9963]

try the rake on more locks

[@thernganomoly4141]

We those on Amazon they have a lot of survival stuff I think they should stick fit he emergency fishing hooks and knives efc

[@antotombari710]

And what's about using Bobby pins?

[@TRIIGGAVELLI]

These looked like they were designed by people who were explained exactly how lockpicking works and what the picks look like. But never actually saw lockpicks themselves

[@jhtsurvival]

My first question is... how are you supposed to take those off and pop them out if you're already in the handcuffs.....lol

[@LockNoob]

Teeth?

[@s0men00bb]

No.2 is super useful and they got it right from the actual SERE kits. :) No.3 is acceptable as well , very basic , but at the same time , in real escape situations , you're not going to have all the time for actual lock picking. :) No.1 is absolute trash , and can't really imagine scenario where it can be useful. But what all 3 got right in every aspect is ease of concealement and taking very little space while being maximum efficient. Except for the saw like rake in No.1. Two other tools from set No.1 *maybe* can be useful for dimple locks , but that is questionable.

[@CoxysPicks]

Only the shim is any good. The "key" is not useful at all.

[@kampfire.]

How do they compare to a normal dog tag===at a glance

[@drevil2783]

I can build a log home with that saw In 300 million years perhaps

[@Whole_Note]

Novelty? Maybe. Useful in an emergency? Definitely... except the first lockpick set. If it can't even open a Masterlock, it's useless.

[@jamesmonoghan1281]

The only thing about metal picks is they are easily detected as metal detectors are everywhere now. Someone needs to find a material that their metal detectors will never discover.

[@penfold7800]

Depends what you want, and how innovative you are willing to be. Theoretically, I could use the arms from my spectacles for a pick and tension tool, and a slither from a pot noodle container as a handcuff shim. You can get handcuff keys that disguise as shoelace ends that won't get detected (because they're too small). The problem with non metallic materials is that they are either too soft or too brittle.

[@drevil2783]

Clever idea, me think Do they work though?? Edit: no they don't work. Solution: bobby pins?

[@Jordan-np2uu]

I think another company could make a better version. Maybe SEREPICK

[@JennyEverywhere]

These look like badly-designed novelty gadgets, like those silly sliding top plastic "James Bond" credit card pick sets that can't fit in any wallet ever made and are clearly hollow. The picks in them are incredibly bad. These look like someone thought they knew how to make lockpicks, but didn't actually know how. I think the supposed rake in the first one might be an attempt at a comb pick, but the shape is just a bit off. Could the deep hook maybe be an attempt at a handcuff key?

[@penfold7800]

...or a single sided warded lock bypass.

[@herdimmunityonpocketsofvul6751]

Minimal Mini's ..

[@MONTY-YTNOM]

The 'survival' cards are crap

[@LockNoob]

Well, i have some to look at...