Grimdark Looks Better than SlapChop....

[@trovarion]

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[@evi732]

Besteht eine winzige Chance, dass du mir mitteilst woher du das Shirt bei 0:41 hast? Das sieht echt gut aus. Vielen Dank für das tolle und ästhetische Video!

[@trovarion]

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[@graefx]

This technique has been a wonderful gift to the hobby community. Especially seeing something thats been floating around as something of a quick and dirty approach, refined by someone with a high level of skill. A masters touch on something for the masses. Im not sure if youve mentioned it before, but "undiluted paint" and "letting it dry on the brush some" are really informative in further demystifying the approach that I think some people take for granted just out of time built habits

[@flumpet38]

Always felt that painting Marines seemed kind of boring, but when my dad said he wanted to get into 40k I picked up a Leviathan box to paint up for him. I used this general method on the Marines half, and it was fast, fun, and I got results I'm SUPER happy with. Thanks for sharing this with us all, it really is a great approach.

[@thetattoodmini]

your method of painting Space Marines is my go-to method now. I've never really felt like slapchop or speed paints would produce the results i wanted with my work, so I was thrilled when i found your first grimdark video.

[@innocentbystander309]

I applied your Blood Angels (grimdark) and Black Templar (painting black) video to my entire Iron Hands army when I started collecting them a couple years ago and I always get compliments when I bring them to events. So thanks again for those tutorials. I love the look of my guys because of them and yeah, it's a super easy and fast style - best of both worlds

[@DJO_Kosick]

This method is amazing. Your Ultramarine Grim Dark video was enough for me to restart my Night Lords army and I'm so glad I did, this method is perfect and a refreshing take on changing things up.

[@andresperedo1275]

I used it once: the results were incredible and I could not believe how fast the whole process was. I am a VERY slow painter and this was a blast. Also, I did not use sponge, it was all done with a very old and shitty brush, and it worked the same (with sponge it would have been even faster)

[@sevencoloredmage8726]

You madman really just threw some casual freehands in, during a speed painting video. Respect!

[@LittleIAO]

I would still LOVE to see how you would do a Marine in this style that has a TMM metallic base color. Reference something like Doom Eagles or Grey Knights. I'm doing mine inspired by medieval steel plate. Not sure if the sponge technique translates well or not unless you're trying to do army-wide NMM and that seems tricky. Thanks!

[@graefx]

I imagine the Deathwing video would be informative. It's slightly inverted from the normal grimdark due to how light the base color is and the chipping is done more traditionally. I'd suggest trying that out subbing your metallic color for the off white

[@LittleIAO]

@@graefx Oh I've seen it. Seen the whole series multiple multiple times. TMM base would be a unique challenge that none of them cover so far.

[@ironxYT]

What do you mean by TMM? I haven’t ran across that abbreviation yet

[@wernerfuhry]

TMM = True metallic metal colors NMM = Non metallic metal colors

[@Dragon_Werks]

NMM is, in my opinion, an unrealistic, crap method. TMM is the only way I use.

[@kubekzpiciem]

This man is a gift to communityI I recommend his videos to my friends who don't even paint or collect and they enjoy them in work breaks

[@br42]

The video is enjoyable in large part because you're having fun. It's good to see that when it shows. 10/10 overall

[@doomed_gav]

I'd love to see you paint a Grey Knight in this grimdark style. I've just started getting into painting minis, and after stumbling upon your videos, I now realise that my Grey Knights are looking a little too "pristine" for my liking. I'm definitely gonna practice with your grimdark style for sure.

[@Kusky60]

You changed the way I work on my minis so much and even if I am just a beginner I achieve pretty good looking minis. Thank you so much!

[@manthespace]

This technique has given me great joy in painting and achieving a look a really have been looking for. I have now a painted BA army after 1.5 months with an hour every couple of days. Thank you very much

[@Rajayali]

You uploaded this just in time! I am putting together some Space Wolves minis and I was tempted by the grimdark style, but I was unsure on how to go about the shoulder/knee markings for them, so thanks for the video!

[@SeppukoGaming]

Oh, look what came out of the austrian basement in the middle of the night! I love your videos and your approach yet again. What i take from this is that the speed is secondary to the fun and thus a byproduct. I need to take my painting time in slow steps to try not to burn out. Also, i would watch a freaking 10 hours of takeouts at the end, shits hilarious 😂

[@thesunthrone]

Wow, this video really made the sponge click for me. For years I thought it was just for weathering and did not pay much mind to it - but the way you combine it with stippling suddenly made me realize that no, this is in fact stippling! And it is perfect for the style of painting I do right now, with stippled irregular coat that is then glazed over to easier build up contrast with the final highlights. Tested this out and it looks like I've finally found the perfect shortcut for painting white models!

[@DarthSid]

This looks very nice! It seems that i have found my new way to paint Space Wolves! 😅 Btw. i really appreciate your focus on the funfactor! This needs more attention! That's one of the reasons why i am going to paint an army of Nurgle mortals for The Old World. Thx for your vid!

[@youtubevanced4900]

One of the best painters on KZbin. I'll say that I've tried this technique and for your average painter this is a slow process. It takes a lot of practice and skill to achieve this result in this kind of time. Mine looked like trash compared to this and took me about 10 hours. You are encouraging me to try it again though. Keep making these high quality videos.

[@commonsense7754]

10 hours 😂 wtf

[@youtubevanced4900]

@@commonsense7754 At least. Might have been 12. I can't remember now. Looked nothing like this final result either.

[@barthmarti4394]

I Just painted my very first space marine ever, a knight from the deathwing, and i did 2 hit with one shot : achieve à decent level of painting on first try since 20 years, and find a still that i like, half grim dak half comics... Thx for the hlep with ur vid :)

[@WalkerintheWaste]

I wouls love to see a metallic scheme. I would also love to see you adapt this technique to a different miniature, maybe with more flesh or fabric. I'd love to see what you come up with!

[@marcgreen3992]

Bin gerade dabei ein Kitbash von Sven Bloodhowl zu malen. Natürlich mit extrem Highlights. Hätte dein Video 5 Tage vorher gebraucht. Habe aber noch einen Ragnar der darauf wartet so bemalt zu werden. Nichtsdestotrotz ist dein Tutorial wieder fantastisch. Hut ab! Du bist immer wieder eine Inspiration. Mach bitte weiter so.

[@neilandrews2995]

Looks amazing, nice to see a creator showing the fun/ez side of mini painting. Great job bud. As for the look, it's perfect. No one like shiny new marines... Make em beat up and worn down.

[@davidivarsson6264]

Great job! The way you teach, and the way you edit, is amazing, nice to see that your content just keeps getting better and better, even after reaching a high level years ago already! Keep it up, you're easily one of the best mini-painter content creaters out there imo!

[@o0krazyboris0o]

YYEEEEEESSSSS This vid highlights every part of why this is my goto approach for not just marines, but anything i want to have gritty yet readable look. I am sooo glad that this vid is used in your series, as it highlights how amazing results can be achieved from humble beginnings and tools. Please keep up the awesome work mate, your vids, info and techniques are leaps and bounds ahead of the other generic tutorials out there!

[@PopeJrod]

I appreciate how easily this makes getting a model done in the Grimdark style. The model looks great, it's just not a style that I feel is what I want for my personal army. I always appreciate your tutorials and learn something from them, even if I won't be following them on my own models. Thanks for sharing your insight!

[@MonkeyTechPriest]

I'd really like to see 1 more video about this approach just for the fine techniques and maybe cover some of the harder colors, manly white space marine armor and death watch black and silver in this approach would be fantastic.

[@DaddelMonster]

I like this approach a lot! Everyone is always looking for speed or for quality. What about grim quality with loads of fun. Don't go faster, have more fun doin it. Thanks for this VOD! I like it very much!

[@wolfmanjim21]

I read the title to the tune of Kristoff singing "Reindeers are better than people" 🤣 When i finally get round to painting those bare leviathan models sat on my shelf, this is what i will refer back to. I just hope it goes better than the last time i tried this method. Great job!

[@dalekilpatrick6456]

Speed painting a combat patrol in this style next?... love it

[@kookieslayer]

Used a very similar tehcnique on my deathguards, I just added some oil wash too. It's fun, fast and the results are amazing. 100% agree with your rating!

[@ginolospazzino5261]

I have to thank you because this technique saved my marine army from abandonment! I started painting my Sons of Medusa marines with this style as soon as I have seen the first video you made with the Blood Angels and from my most boring army it became the one I like the most. Every marine is unique, the painting is a lot faster and less stressful (moot green over black primer was dreadful before), contrast is boosted and the painting scheme changed from garish to brooding and menacing. There is nothing not to love in this approach! :)

[@ger5956]

This guy looks great, fantastic work as always dude 😁❤️👍🏻

[@jamesmclaughlin4773]

Thank you so much for showing this technique! It's super easy and looks amazing. I have used it to paint Blood Angels, a couple of Ultramarines, and Dark Angels. It is a fun way because you do not have to be too precise, can be a bit sloppy, and it works.

[@AlastairPaterson]

Looks fantastic! Definitely going to give sponging a try. I’m intrigued to see how well the approach would work on white armour.

[@metnah1]

Hows it faster if it aint red?

[@0vernight711]

Hell yeah brother

[@ElMaestroSlice]

My favourite mini painter. Keep up the good work man, every video you do makes me want to paint my minis

[@Goodenough-]

I love your videos and they give me something to strive to as I'm not very good, but want and like to learn. With that said, videos like this don't make a whole lot of sense to a beginner like me, because I can't get an end product like yours in the same timeframe. However, I can get a great looking slapchop done on my first try in the timeframe videos have shown. This is why slapchop rules for beginners and comparing the processes to a beginner will never make sense. I do believe that with more experience I could get a similar timeframe as your video, but many pro painters overlook this learning time to get the skill and knowledge that you have. I just want to be clear, I love your videos, you are an amazing teacher, painter and content creator. I just don't really agree with comparing the technique, knowledge and timeframe in this video with slapchop. I have yet to have a bad experience with slapchop, and every model looks a little different (even if it has the same mold). However, I've had many bad experiences trying to learn a new style or technique I saw on youtube from a creator that said it was as easy or quick as slapchop. In comparison, my EdgeHighlights step would take an hour at least and it would be very messy lol. God I wish I could get a final product like yours in 2hrs using conventional methods, if I could I'd give up slapchop armies and squads in a second. However, slapchop creates a great first step for beginners like me. I can do a slapchop, add varnish and then play the game. Then after a few weeks or months I can go back to the model and add in more details as I feel comfortable learning new skills and techniques. Trying to learn a lot at once is what kills the hobby for me; I'm just glad slapchop is around as a first stepping stone, without it I wouldn't have started or wanted to paint.

[@judsonbates1359]

Love this method Trovarion! Thank you for continually inspiring us!

[@michaelstrange2285]

I'm on my second viewing of this video, and feel like it won't be the last. Such an excellent, flexible and forgiving, approach to grimdark.

[@bjarkefredskildpedersen866]

As always, it looks amazing, and I love the depth it gives the miniature and how it makes it look lige it's real and from a lived in world - some time in the grimdark, far future.

[@Mr.Glitch]

I've been back in the hobby after a 30 year break. My first Dark angel looked OK, but once I switched to a sponge stipple technique (before I knew of your channel) they looked way better. Now I can take tips from you and the new guys I'm finishing look 1000% times better! ❤ Will be giving it a go with my Nids chintin next.

[@Tookieslam]

Thanks for this, about to start painting my Carcharodons and this helped choose what colours to use for their grey armour.

[@linus3977]

My favorite in this style so far. Gotta try this on my termis!

[@muvoksismakings]

Finally a fast way to dona grimdark/grimy/weathered look i actually like AND looks amazing

[@123scopee]

Awsome vid as always mate. Iv kind of just started painting my necrons like this, gone for rusty necrons but I'm doing all the colours myself instead of dirty down or other paints like it, and having a lot of fun and most importantly, satisfying finish 👍

[@nickbabiy3918]

I wanted to use this scheme to repaint my wolves and I’m glad i now have an example! Thanks and subbed!

[@Stevie28]

This is awesome! I Love this Style. I need to try this. Possibly ob some Night Lords. Maybe you could Paint some Chaos Chapters too? Would Love to See your take on Chaos with this Style.

[@robboss3172]

Thank You for another tool You put in my inventar :D I really love the colour-compesition of this mini!

[@theobessiris9681]

Great looking space marine and technique. I hope you can do a video with vehicles using this method. I would really like to see how they would turn out.

[@Rohnon]

I love this techniques with oils and enamels. I get why you don't use them, but I love them!

[@YetiLord]

Love your videos! Great method. Would love to see how it looks on something that's majority all flesh, like the new FEC models!!

[@Grimprospect]

I plan on using this for my Deathwatch army. I had to darken down the blues a lot more but I still love doing the technique. You are right about the fun factor, its really nice when it comes together so easily.

[@ShayneGilly]

i love your vids, getting a masters take on accessibility for others in the hobby is always so cool to me

[@thedoombroom5331]

You can definitely achieve amazing results spending even more time and other products with the grimdark style. Annoys me when people say it takes low skill. Oils and enamels take a lot of time to get down without it looking like mud (if you choose to use them). I love your take on the style.

[@edwardcote2440]

If you don't want to use a chunk of sponge, alternatives could be a sponge "lollypop" brush, a small "deer foot" brush, an old "chisel" or "bright" brush, or a cheap makeup brush, as long as it's coarser than what you would use for dry brushing.

[@milesboyer4657]

these type of videos are great and alot of fun, i love them

[@sebastienfournier3672]

I do really love your approach with this grimdark paint style. I personally prefer using oils for their longer working time but all in all, they make beautiful miniatures fast. I'm actually finishing a full squad of 30k death marines and the grimdark style just makes them look perfect.

[@thedonkeysmonkey3586]

Wow nice! Finally space wolves! The mini looks epic! So much ideas in this video!

[@grimdarksun]

I'd used this technique many times and it's very rewarding and fun to do--especially if you're not very confident with your brush control (which I'm not always). It's a great way to practice and build skill and confidence and still get a result that you can be happy with!

[@50043211]

What foam material are you using? I tried the kitchen sponge but its simply to dense. THX.

[@Pikilloification]

Any sponge can do, if too dense, remove some more material

[@50043211]

@@Pikilloification Hmm, I will give it a try. THX.

[@grimdarksun]

@@50043211 this is gonna sound funny but you know those "we're #1!" foam hands you see at sporting events? That cheap, cruddy foam is perfect IMHO.

[@madrobot711]

The revolution of painting, thanks brother!!!! Mind blowing!!!

[@LP-ru2pr]

As always, amazing technique! I’d love to see you do a thousand sons rubric marine or exalted sorcerer :)

[@AirsoftAddicted]

10/10, just because it's fast and effective. Great one, thanks for sharing.

[@Ash-sf4gr]

I think it looks rad. I particularly like the glaze shading on the yellows, I can't really explain it well, but the vairation in hue and value makes it read to me much more like real material than just stippling when it was plain yellow. Personally though my favourite was your Necron from a previous vid. Would love to see some other ancient factions like eldar or chaos in this style.

[@isisnmagic1812]

Great video loads of tips going forward, I dint play the games so speed is not my aim, but having new techniques is always a good thing, thanks for sharing .

[@samhoban2509]

I love the sponge effect. It’s still important to have a healthy dose of readability and lighting with an artistic eye, like yourself!

[@ovan2190]

Love these videos, I've been working on Arbites for kill team and been using these techniques even just a little to make the armor look used it's not easy but it is fun great video :)

[@neilcressey8189]

Yeah I love it. It’s raw and it looks like it’s fun to paint too. Top job thanks a lot!!

[@j.s.fluegelschlag842]

Danke für die sehr nachvollziehbaren Schritte und die großartige Technik. Ich konnte sie bei dem alten Resin 65mm? Space Wolf von GW ausprobieren und es hat mir viel Spaß gemacht mal "anders herum" zu malen.

[@Allhappy_Nomad]

Love the style and work you've been doing on your grimdark tutorials, and i hope to someday see a grimdark Crimson fist's tutorial.

[@Wooteq44]

I don't play 40k and don't have much interest in the game, but after I saw your first grimdark Blood Angel video I bought a Space Marine figure just to try it. No regrets, it was surprisingly easy and fun and is among my best painted figures, though he doesn't fit in with all my Orcs and Elves. :P

[@oscarjames2004]

This style is definitely something I am going to try. I'm not very experienced at all, but I've never been a fan of the GW prescribed way of painting (edge highlight everything), and in finding your channel I have been reassured that I'm not alone - that there is an alternative. However, I lack the brush control to get the volumetric 'realistic' approach, so this sponge method mixed with a bit of brushwork looks great! The one thing I always find funny is how massive the models look on a KZbin video compared with when I'm painting it, so I'm going to get some magnifying glasses😂

[@sluki6190]

Amazing video, would love to see some AoS stuff as well!

[@adedimberline]

That’s one of the best Space Wolf terminators I’ve ever seen

[@howardcoates6985]

nice look, like the feel of it. How does this translate to fantasy miniatures, how would you do this on AoS figures for example.

[@J4zpr]

Looks great as usual. I am considering this technique for a Chaos Space Marines army. Would you give us some tips for this approach on a CSM who’s heavy on metallic trims. Seems to me that the sponge would make a mess but the brush will give a less natural result.

[@NerdySatyr]

Absolutely love this, but MAN am I terrible at edge highlighting haha

[@MrAevans3]

I would love to see your take on how this technique would work on chaos marines with their trim, and what you would do different. or how it might work with black armour.

[@krzto]

I love the final result of these, and your videos are of the few that make me want to immediately try the technique...but I'm definitely in the camp of "why aren't my sponge bits working right??" 😅 I'm definitely going to consider inverted highlights now though! That came out very interesting!

[@joshuadempsey5281]

This effect looks very similar to how scale modelers paint weathered model tanks and I really love the way it looks! Great stuff dude! I’ve been using slap-chop since you first put out the video. I’ll have to try this as well.

[@phalanx1234]

I feel like scale modelers are perpetually 5 years ahead of miniature painters in terms of techniques. There's just so many little tricks they do that we as miniature painters take ages to discover.

[@joshuadempsey5281]

@@phalanx1234 1 100% agree. Pre-shading (for example) has been done by them since i was a toddler lol

[@Maxmillion77]

Great stuff T, love the finished look on these.

[@codymott223]

This is sick. I love it. Definitely gonna try it on my space marines

[@toddsmith235]

I love this approach. I'm not sure what else you have planned, but there are two things I would love to see you try: First, metallics. I wonder if this technique would work for a metallic chapter like the Grey Knights or Celestial Lions (my chapter of choice...). Second, achromatic. I mention this for a couple reasons. I'd love to see your version of an Achromatic Grimdark Space Marine in this style; and secondly, would a colour filter (Contrast, or ink in an air brush) work over the finished achromatic paint job to turn it into whatever chapter you want?

[@chrismurphy3745]

No lie my ultramarine are going to be this style. Thank you . Would love more details going your way watch your others too

[@kirankumarshetty356]

It's awesome video... Can you please make one video of how to paint the glowing eyes or the gloving part of the figure ❤❤❤❤

[@JeffEvans-l1y]

Damn it…. Now I have to try this scheme out too! I love this technique, it is by far my favourite of all. You make it look too easy though! 😂

[@alancook1053]

Perfection! Simplicity is the best❤❤❤❤❤

[@michaelb.4420]

Awesome Video man! I really like that grimdark Style. In which colour would you approach a Greenwing Dark Angel (from Prime to Finish). In your other video i just found Salamander or Deathwing... I would appreciate your advise. Keep up the great videos!

[@jadenpaber1952]

gonna try this out but on a dreadnought coz I haven't seen a space wolves dreadnought grim dark painting yet tnx much for the tutorial

[@Michaelangelo1776]

Would be interested to see you apply this style to an imperial guardsman 👍🏻 great work as always

[@mallypaints]

So refreshing to see a video that isn't just slapping a load of speed paint on a model 👍

[@jeffhreid]

Good video. The 24 sound effect is a nice touch

[@RusoDryLaw]

I've been following this tecnique for a good while and building my Templar bois accordingly, as it is a look I really dig. I am however struggling with vehicles, with so many flat panels (Outrider bikes, for example) I feel the highlight colours don't blend as easily as curved shapes from the marines. Any insight on this wold be awesome! Fantastic quality work as always!

[@wurgat]

This looks great! How would you adept this apportion for a chaos space marine? I'm mainly thinking how to handle the trim?

[@michaelroberts640]

Amazing stuff. I painted similar on my terrain. Nice and quick and dirty

[@imboss1127]

Great work ❤ would like to see your ver. Of chaos marine

[@grimmriffer]

I don't know if you've seen Orion's Belt Minis '"space wolf armour vid", but she has an approach very similar to this - layering up from dark with stippling/splodgling - but a quite different effect. Less weathered and somehow looking a little ... cartoony? Painterly? It's great that this kind of approach can yield diverse results, as to me it's always been the most fun - you just keep putting paint where it looks like paint belongs. And the best thing about layering up from dark? If you can't reach a bit, just don't paint it! That's a real time saver. 😁

[@itcouldbebruce]

I'd love to see you do this method with a white. I've been experimenting with it on my own but haven't found mix of paints that I like.

[@clarkeol88]

Grimdark absolutely slays Slapchop 🤘

[@chesteratienza5175]

I've tried the black templar methods on a sample model and it works great, though I don't have specific colors but probably I did just fine combining colors that I have.