Grime History Lesson

Following the legendary interview that happened 3 years ago. DJ Argue talks to Jammer about his career in depth. They discuss things such as Nasty Crew, Boy Better Know, and many more interesting subjects about Grime History
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[@TNuBornCru]

Didn’t expect these two to ever be in the same room again

[@DCLN433]

😂🤣🤣

[@deboman81]

Did they have beef or something?

[@TNuBornCru]

@@deboman81 check their other interview lol

[@deboman81]

@@TNuBornCru will do bro

[@silewis9396]

@@deboman81 Jammer fully switched on him mid-interview and took an argument to DJ Argue. Funniest shit ever

[@MrNjstar]

Dj argue is absolutely smashing these interviews,the conversations flow so naturally

[@unsubzeroed9792]

I’m from NY and I grew up on grime, my sound is directly linked with the genre and style of rhyme with the density of east coast rap and this to me hit heavy because I didn’t know a lot of this history I was surfing the net for the sounds etc and I’ve been listening 14 - 16 years deep maybe more and this connects a lot of dots for me this reinvigorated me; I didn’t even know jammer got idle like that and how hard some things hit him to see where he’s at now is so inspiring for me

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Keep spreading the grime sound stateside!!! Big up !!!!

[@P7P7NII]

Have to give DJ Argue a round of applause, literally perfect for these interviews! Well done lad!!

[@grovegreen123]

The guy knows his shit! It's refreshing

[@garygravity]

Mad knowledge

[@jamesa.h6965]

Big up dj argue for these grime history lessons, hopefully you carry this on and interview all the og's of the scene

[@imusic1006]

Bro we definitely need rapid on this, would love to hear about the ruff sqwad influences

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Would be good to get wafer from slew dem ! I loved his simple production style with all the gun sounds !!!!

[@ZoneInOn]

DONT COME ON ME BLUD ILL FUKIN GO MAD IN HERE

[@badderman1]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@djaru_themessngeri518]

Everybody always forgets to mention DJ Narrows influence on the sound 💀

[@phobsdsr4326]

For real, Narrows killed it with them early dubs 🚀

[@MegaAquemini]

glad to see it's not as tense as the last interview. lol

[@SsSoutlaw4SsS]

Was searching for this comment😂😭😭😭

[@DonDadda45]

what you mean?

[@sbcjraid]

@@SsSoutlaw4SsS same here bro

[@sbcjraid]

@@DonDadda45 search DJ Argue Jammer...Jammer goes off on DJ Argue in their first interview

[@KingTooba]

@@sbcjraid I assumed this was the reason everyone was praising Dj argue in the comments. Cos back then he was definitely wrong lol

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

You need to interview Terror Danjah that was another early influential producer who doesn't get enough props and he too had the plug pulled on him by majors dealing with Kano. Apart from Jammer influences, DaVinChe had some Terror Danjah influences too.

[@Komodo1312]

Terror Danjah is brain damaged after a stroke some years ago...

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

@@Komodo1312 Really!! I didn't know it was was that bad. Very sad news!! Poor guy!!

[@Komodo1312]

@@TakeMeBackPirateRadio Yes it is very sad. He seemed like a very upbeat and positive guy. Healthy too. It can happen to all of us.

[@southeastglock]

@@Komodo1312 What happened with Danjah? I cant see the comment. it was deleted.

[@DCLN433]

@@southeastglock I assumed it was deleted for goin into too much detail or bein specific, all I’ll say is RIP, sad news man

[@Pod-e4m]

see how powerful unity can be? respect to Jammer and DJ Argue.

[@joblaney7255]

jammer is absolutely certi wether you like him or not

[@phobsdsr4326]

Hold tight Wookie.. The influence on me was the same. He was the Timbo of our scene. Being from West, I can say Jon E was the early don. Pre-millennium he was smashing it with Black Ops. Also Eastwood needs a mention alongside the others Jammer spoke of. Sick interview for those who need the info 💣💥

[@jhb6991esrep]

Big interview. Would be sick to see any of Durrty Goodz, Dogzilla, Discarda, Chronik, God's Gift, Sharky Major or Flirta D on this

[@talibantrim6857]

Durrty goodz and chronik

[@dd185]

@@talibantrim6857 trimbal

[@garygravity]

Mr Wong

[@Nainocard]

Funny thing is, Neutrino made Dilemma; not any members of So Solid Crew. People totally forget how Oxide and Neutrino were their own entity.

[@skeemaldn5176]

Yes but they were also a part of so solid. They blew up seperatley from so solid with their casualty remix but still released under so solid umbrella. Oxide and neutrinos debut album ws the first CD album I bought as a kid and I still remember a lot of so solid branding all over it. Oxide had a real grimey sound and doesn't get hardly any recognition tbh.

[@matthewp8889]

Respect alot of gems of info on this one big up jammer

[@1987marvs]

I don't understand why rapid never in the convo when we talk grime

[@oggrimeuk7740]

great interview again!!! big up Jammer for all them OG beats and all best going forward! 🔥🔥🔥

[@strawberrysours9785]

we need more of these, wicked content keep it coming!!!

[@sholaaa_]

Argue I truly hope you get to do some sort of live version of these. A panel of Producers & MC's - Barbican / Somerset House kind of vibe. Also, when it's time to commemorate this golden era at the V&A, MoMa etc - you simply HAVE to be involved at an executive level. This is outstanding, important archival work. Monumental effort.

[@sholaaa_]

Love them all, but this is episode is the one I recommend people. Destruction VIP was the dub that locked me in. That dubplate made me feel proud of who I was, and hopeful that I could be what I wanted to be. It's a gimmick not far from the truth, that Jammer is a superhero.

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Go and listen to the Barry grey orchestra. No strings attached ep . The song is titled hijacked ! I think you will enjoy it if you like destruction vip !!!

[@atkeps]

Loooool Round2 with these man 😂😂😂🤣

[@stineO]

these are soo great

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

I know there hadn’t been a grime history lesson but we definitely need a ruff squad one !!!!!!

[@MR.SKANDAL0121]

Jammer is a book of knowledge when it comes to Grime he was deffo ahead of his time if you look back at what he's done in his career he's done it all

[@caneandabel]

Great series of interviews

[@anthonyjones8836]

DO KZbin PAY FOR VIEWS???!!!!! Best interview ever

[@grayzisamyth]

Jammer spitting facts!! “One and all” is one of the best grime tunes ever made IMO Best interview yet!

[@chrisgill8023]

Big up Dj argue for doing more of these 👌🏼 love hearing stories about the history

[@justgidz]

*I’m just a radio DJ* Hold tight Argue & Jammer 😭👏🏾

[@officialdjironik]

Big episode. Big up

[@mesutozil9486]

Legendary but i still feel like Jammers an underrated producer

[@Oioisavaloy]

Big up Argue, would love to see a Scratchy Roll Deep interview was always my favourite emcee with Wiley. Also the only producer to stay true to the Eskibeat!

[@realtalktrustories6480]

Fully backing Argue he knows grime!!

[@oracleelectronica]

Jammer is the mad rass it was bizarre to have a rass making cold beats like that back then

[@peppercrybeatz]

great interview i really enjoyed this one

[@thunderjoy7250]

Who is it Who is it It's the meeeèerkle man 😜

[@user-qn9qb6xb1g]

Forgot to mention dj narrows changed the game for real

[@jrgoonertv1552]

Good to see these man have hugged and made up. Cant believe its 4 years ago

[@asimov1979]

Great interview, I love how Jammer starts flexing on sound design without a tutorial.

[@asimov1979]

DJ argue mentions this track by Davinche when Jammer mentions who came up with that "sound" of grime kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2TXaZuilKqejNk

[@gman3248]

Legend in the game jammer

[@thingsdisappear]

Any mention of Lewi White from Jammer in this?

[@tyfloyd7438]

Sick interview

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

Jammer is a Don he brought a different level of entertainment when he was on Channel U back in the day!! No lie, Jammer's laugh is like Skeletor. Search "Skeletor laugh" and you'll know what I mean. We need a Murkle Man Vs Skeletor 😂😂

[@HYPERMASCULINE]

When he picked up the microphone, all he did was bring the levels down and harm the scene. Still a novelty on the microphone till this day

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

@@HYPERMASCULINE I wouldn't go that far but he was starting out and it was all very experimental. He wasn't on par with MCs who had been obviously MCing since 1993 and 1994. As an MC he was new. His productions were top notch and he top DJ. I think he built some big tunes.

[@HYPERMASCULINE]

His productions were great. There are some questions over credits though (Lewi White and others). He really did have a good impact with his production. But his MCing... even now 😬. But I know he has his fans 🤷‍♂️

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

@@HYPERMASCULINE It's about his production and what he did with Lord Of The Mics!!

[@mrironlunglungzielungzietv6697]

Biggup gee and the rinse crew

[@blueredtrill6943]

‘Technically’ KZbin don’t pay for views if your channel has been struck 👍🏾 DJ Argue 1-1

[@moket123]

Why did these stop??

[@huh8935]

I beg you do an episode with Jammer & Jon E Cash together in the same room.

[@westcliffe9527]

Round 2…

[@dwaynelanghorn550]

Jammer was right back then 1000%

[@GrimeUK777]

I am actually the Grime Historian Guru.

[@skutz_]

The Importance of Grime history

[@SkeenTV]

Does KZbin pay for views!?

[@AD5dj]

What are we doing here?

[@deboman81]

Yes what are we doing here lol

[@SkeenTV]

@@AD5dj We’re not gonna do dat are we!? 😂⚠️

[@SkeenTV]

@@deboman81 DARG MEAL

[@crooke80]

Get tempah or doogz on ❤️

[@bingodeagle]

an unexpected link up

[@housegrooves]

🚀🚀🚀

[@jonathondaniels6662]

Defo Wiley dizzee n bizzle needed to complete the circle ⭕️

[@s.e1150]

Casualty was hard

[@AbsolutelyAbsolute]

Dizzie won't be happy about Jammers comments about him not being Dizzie without Wiley. The whole reason Dizzie and Wiley never reconciled according to Dizzie was so no one could say Wiley made him.

[@marcp3788]

A lot of people won't be happy with Jammers comment about 'Dilemma' being a defining moment in grime either 😂😂

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

Wiley was connected to the record labels he was connected to them since 2000 when they signed Nicole's Groove and Wiley was big and so was Pay As You Go, you can't deny that. No one's saying Dizzee isn't a pioneer because he's a don but if you look at things objectively Wiley was a grown man who had been on a musical journey before Dizzee and people neglect it and suddenly think his career started after Champagne Dance.

[@PJ-po7fu]

I think dizzies got more important things to think about right now tbh

[@smo2rappy]

@@marcp3788 is w wewhat

[@DaMetalMessiah]

Args you’ve got to slow down

[@hightrip8580]

Someone tell Tempa T Now! Forever capping on mans name.

[@jayjayrudeboyjedi6139]

Please get wiley on mr argue 🙏

[@moket123]

No mention of Lewi White hmmm

[@randomimpulser]

whats some classic or early lewi white? i know him mostly from freedom of speech

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Got a couple good earth 616 bit etc by him ! Great producer !!!

[@Maydaymusik]

SO DO KZbin PAY FOR VIEWS OR???????

[@zMxsh]

anyone remember these 2 arguing on radar radio a few years ago?

[@sali629]

Yep 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheSuperdagga1]

Get Wiley on here 👀

[@Madbrad2000]

Hope he got paid for this

[@garygravity]

Where is DaVinche these days?

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Tempz being on the chase and status side at culture clash was him paring grime and himself ! And jammers is right they ain’t doing tunes or tours with tempz for time !!!!! And at the end of the day tempz is a grime artist not a 3 rd wave jungle mc !!!!

[@djshocka2007]

Does argue know wether youtube pay for views or not yet ?

[@trolleysnatcha]

Can't believe this donut still pops up on my timeline from time to time 😓

[@trolleysnatcha]

@@TommyL514 master splinter with dreads

[@JakeLDS]

@@trolleysnatcha what's the point in being negative though?

[@Impactofficial]

I think DJ Argue is Fesify or Ape Huncho on a sly but he won’t reveal his identity

[@mynameismyname6830]

Jammer is a bitter guy, wants all the praise, very emotional guy

[@s.e1150]

if anything, jammer took H's side. H flopped not sticking to the ting

[@bigmoneysteppa]

Radar radio was great.

[@badderman1]

DO KZbin PAY FOR VIEWS!???

[@SUPAUK]

Last interview was definitely staged for the views smh jammer DO KZbin PAY FOR VIEWS

[@ALIENSHADZ]

Get dot rotten ,

[@Jozezezeze]

Jammer has ruined plenty of sets with his presence. Dude is mad annoying on the mic

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Been paring for wheel ups on merkle man for decades

[@s.e1150]

Jam sounds bitter he didnt get to make money from Kano

[@humblesmith1215]

He probably is but why wouldn’t/shouldn’t he be? I don’t even think it’s the money aspect but it’s more a thing where by Jammer helped him and as soon as Kano got given a bigger platform he is forgotten about!!

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

And he is definitely right what he says about divinchie !Kano’s bars sounded better on more dark beats !!!

[@JohnDoe-nt1sv]

DJ argue is a nerd

[@CashRulesEveryth1000]

JAHMEKTHEWORLD

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

Big up Jammer for mentioning Wookie, El-B, Oris Jay, Zed Bias...dem man are pioneers.

[@rmdglobal6268]

don’t forget about Zinc

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

@@rmdglobal6268 And DJ Narrows who changed the game with his crazy dark tunes.

[@_GoGo_]

Facts

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Yeah got bare vinyls buy all them and they all had tons of classic tunes !!!!

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

@@RobertMunro-wb6jb Trust their tracks bring the fiyaaaah!

[@ANineOne]

Please get Wookie and Oris Jay on here. And also Durrty Goodz and Rapid

[@jayjayrudeboyjedi6139]

Please get durrty goodz 🙏 president T as well

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

Wafer from slew dem would be good

[@realtalktrustories6480]

We just done an episode with Plague alero about Grime history, check it out.

[@xXItZzLeWXx]

DOES KZbin PAY FOR VIEWS?!

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

🤣

[@Ricksta]

Bro i beg you try and get Dizzee on this series.

[@glaze1984]

Wiley gonna go mad on twitter the day that interview happens.

[@TakeMeBackPirateRadio]

Ebony Jae that's a name I ain't heard of in ages. He influenced a lot MCs styles. That Mission FM twang was sickkkkk!!

[@jambo5433]

That 6 track jeh Mek ep still goes hard. No denying jammers sound was the footings. The kicks snares. One of the best producers in my opinion

[@stevenpyka295]

You can tell his grown alot since the last interview but tbh everyone was going through some shit

[@marcp3788]

Dilemma is to grime, what Lennie De Ice - We Are I.E is to jungle. Foundation

[@Cornflake81]

Another great interview. These are fantastic. was lucky enough to see Jammer back in the day and was nothing but cool. Legend in the game.

[@djaru_themessngeri518]

Dilemma changed it all, blueprint for grime 🙌😤

[@JakeLDS]

It was inspired by Melody by Mastersteps

[@djaru_themessngeri518]

Which was actually made by Frankie Foncett.

[@JakeLDS]

@@djaru_themessngeri518 I didn't know that. Where did you hear that? I know it was on his label. That might make more sense as to why it was inspired by Busta Rhymes Dangerous. He was into his NY sounds and Hip Hop.

[@marcp3788]

12:53 Dilemma the first grime sounding track 💯

[@s.e1150]

garage

[@marcp3788]

@@s.e1150 don't be silly

[@s.e1150]

@@marcp3788 lol it is, jammer says so too, dark garage really. it was not grime

[@marcp3788]

@@s.e1150 it was the first track, that sounded like grime, it was produced in the middle of 1999, the only other tracks I would say that were grimey garage at that time were, deekline - I don't smoke, wookie - scrappy / down on me, masterstepz - melody

[@s.e1150]

@@marcp3788 nah man, so solid were not grime. i dont smoke was not grime,

[@_GoGo_]

🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧💯 if it weren’t for jammer and lotm I’d never have enjoyed the last 15 years of my life!

[@CoachWG]

Can't touch Jammer for grime nostalgia. Guys a general

[@bigwuns142]

get Dj Wonder on here!

[@bigmoneysteppa]

Polyphonic ringtones was the first grime tunes.

[@aphelan8895]

Big up jammer that's the original culture of our music there

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

I have heard Chronik say jammer stole his mueller man slang from slew dem ! Says he wouldn’t lift bars because that was to bate but he would steel there slang ! Like neckle ‘ murkle etc ! Don’t know if it’s facts or not !!!! But chronic said so on spaces !!!!

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

I know wear jammer got his sample for the jammer destruction vip riddim and it’s a record most grime people would never listen to !!! I’ve got it on vinyl !!!

[@killervacuum]

what's the intro tune?