AJS37 Viggen: Is The U22/A Jammer Effective Against Naval? | DCS WORLD

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@Jethrosdetlef
@Jethrosdetlef 5 жыл бұрын
I checked the effectiveness just a few weeks ago with a buddy in a SA-15. I think the Tor is the most dangerous for us Viggen pilots. The jammer had quite good effect on TA (Target Acquisition / Search) and TT (tracking). I was not visible on his radar for longer time and lock on was harder to achieve. I made the full warm-up on the pod! I did not read anything about quick start.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Scratch this vid. It is wrong. Correction coming out tomorrow.
@lenn55
@lenn55 5 жыл бұрын
ECM is such a huge part of modern air combat nowadays it's sad that DCS doesn't put at least some effort into modeling it.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
It's a tough one that. I meanthis stuff is all still classified right?
@spc83
@spc83 5 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers that it correct, plus there are soo many variables such as altitude, attenuation of the radars, weather, etc.
@Zadren
@Zadren 5 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers True, but the entire electronic environment in DCS is rudimentary at best. Most, if not all, of the jammers in game will have similar techniques at their disposal, which are all open source; such as range gate stealing, and velocity gate pull off to name but a couple. The effects of these techniques are well-known, and I see no reason not to model them. AFAIK, all the jammers do in game is increase lock time and shorten lock distance - I don't even know if they increase the chance-to-miss once a missile is inbound.
@Sunesen
@Sunesen 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I believe i tested the Viggens jammer out against an SA-8 a while ago and I found it to have quite a noticable effect on the lock and firing times for the SA-8.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
roger will have to test the sa-8
@xAeroSpaceKnightx
@xAeroSpaceKnightx 5 жыл бұрын
Sunglasses Challenge: Race from one airfield to another in two or more teams of two. But one member of each team has to turn their monitor off (can be done after takeoff if your team got no balls) and the other has to guide them to their destination. Teams can be in the same two-seater plane or separate single seaters but the objective is to get your blind boy home. Bonus points if you manage to shoot the other team members down while blind LoL. Figuring out the lag will be your team's problem so git gud!
@xAeroSpaceKnightx
@xAeroSpaceKnightx 5 жыл бұрын
Sunglasses at Night Challenge is the obvious alternative mission ;)
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
cook idea
@ptrisonic
@ptrisonic 5 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers I'll take a BLT on Rye, with a side of chips, please.
@xAeroSpaceKnightx
@xAeroSpaceKnightx 5 жыл бұрын
@@ptrisonic dippin sauce? have them do it inverted -.-7
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 5 жыл бұрын
Btw they fixed the radar for RR (radar release) bombing, now its actually really accurate, and with the help from a jtac (and a coordinates mod) you can bomb in any weather :D
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
thx
@mariushusejacobsen3221
@mariushusejacobsen3221 5 жыл бұрын
It could be a plain penalty to lock time, meaning it would be most effective to delay them firing at you as you pop out from behind a hill, until you're already past the next one. Would it perhaps be noticable to a CA player?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
We think we've actually figured it out now, will put a new vid out soon
@cyrus6250
@cyrus6250 5 жыл бұрын
The first of the Slava class of cruisers was commissioned into the Soviet navy in 1983.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
yup agree
@GregAtlas
@GregAtlas 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much AI shenanigans might have to do with the results.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
Scratch this vid Greg, new vid coming out tomorrow that nullifies all of this. Sorry
@GregAtlas
@GregAtlas 5 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Okie dokie :)
@danvercillo
@danvercillo 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe we can get a Swedish meatball dispenser instead?
@Struktualnyj
@Struktualnyj 5 жыл бұрын
S-300 has a very good anti-jammer capabilities (ECCM). Lessons there learnt after Arab-Israel wars.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
thx
@chrisc3164
@chrisc3164 5 жыл бұрын
Good ! ... now go do ops against ships
@eran100100
@eran100100 5 жыл бұрын
Do all the Jammers work in DCS?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Scratch this vid. It is wrong. Correction coming out tomorrow.
@stefansaveda2449
@stefansaveda2449 5 жыл бұрын
Did u warm up the jammer?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 5 жыл бұрын
no but as I understand it a "hot started" viggen is already warmed up?
@stefansaveda2449
@stefansaveda2449 5 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers As i unterstand, theres an warmup mode. Use A and F for warmup
@stefansaveda2449
@stefansaveda2449 5 жыл бұрын
Use A and F for warmup
@schweizerluchs7146
@schweizerluchs7146 5 жыл бұрын
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