IMPROVED Could A-10 Warthog Squadron Have Prevented The WWII London Raids? (WarGames 4b) | DCS

[@demomanchaos]

Have you tried a large bomber raid vs some modern air defence systems? Would a Luftwaffe bomber run be dense enough to just eat all the SAM ammo and still get enough ordinance on target?

[@grimreapers]

I've done a couple: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJe3mYGPmtqhpck kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPcZoqMj8qHbM0

[@mfreed40k]

Love the driving starts! Realism, you know those A-10 pilots were crazy jeep drivers during the blitz.

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@BaseSerpentMessmer]

We do need more drives to work😂

[@colesteven1123]

These videos should have hundreds of thousands of views. Not tens. Love the content, happy I found you. Been binge watching for days!!

[@liamh9814]

Grim Reapers are the Red Letter Media of simulations: talented, insightful, fun and yet complete idiots. Perfect.

[@grimreapers]

Complete idiot best idiot.

[@ivy7642]

@@grimreapers You wouldn't want to be accused of phoning it it. Pfft. Imagine only being a partial idiot!?

[@bynrdskynrd]

​@@grimreapers* Rich Evans cackles in the distance *

[@kriscerosaurus]

“Has anyone still got missiles?” [Cut to wide shot and *brrt* *brrrrrt* *BRRRRT* *brrt* *BRRRT*] lol Kudos, editor.

[@Zoroff74]

On the topic of Brrt, I have a faint memory of the F-111 having the option of mounting a cannon with a ton of ammo, could be a neat interceptor for this kind of work.

[@Zoroff74]

Speaking of Brrt, any gun pods that could be equipped?

[@leeroyloke8415]

What about trying the A-10 Warthogs against B-17 bombers? That would be a welcome change from the Ju-88s since the B-17 is a different beast altogether. I still recall the 1960/1970s SAM and GEN 2/GEN 3/GEN 4 jet fighter intercept scenarios showing how tough they were when taking all that damage.

[@sercrets9531]

I second this

[@ryanerickson8138]

You want US aircraft attacking US aircraft? Not saying it wouldn’t be interesting but it sounds kinda like an inter squad scrimmage instead of an NFL game.

[@jeffbaek0523]

@@ryanerickson8138 Yes US aircraft vs US aircraft, why not?

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

​​@@ryanerickson8138 the dream scenario of Russian propagandists: Yellowstone explodes, dollar crashes, USA splits in a civil war, modern tech fails, they have to fall back to old proven tech like t-62... sorry, old prop bombers, but somebody still retains a couple of a-10s.

[@lippertwe]

I thought of this too... The difference is that the B-17 is much more survivable than the German bombers, so it would be interesting to see how they perform. The B-17's have more guns and more engines, so already there, there's a difference. Also be interesting to add P-51's into the mix, escorting the bombers.

[@robandcheryls]

“Drop” sounds like ‘Charlie Hunam” great episode GR.

[@DripsDrop]

I'll brush up on Sons Of Anarchy quotes for next time, can't guarantee my American accent will be as good!

[@VimyScout]

Thanks for saving Blighty, chaps. Wonderful stuff👍

[@denispol79]

How about Iron Dome as WW2 London protection?

[@grimreapers]

ooo I like that.

[@Hadukn88]

Keen to see this!

[@charlielear6810]

It would be good

[@jsublett8871]

Holy cow i've never been this early in two a video. It's good to hear you sounding like your normal self cap. Looking forward to seeing what this video is all about it looks fun

[@dasbus9834]

7:00 That German train was probably even more lost than you guys 😉

[@stevecooksley]

The good thing is that A-10s look like they belong in WWII. Still my favourite plane, stick some GE90s on the back and you've got yourself an interceptor.

[@TheNgandrew]

It's cool to see you using Kenley airfield. I live in Kenley, and walked around the (very well-preserved) airfield this morning. I didn't see any A-10s, but did see Viking gliders (used by the Air Cadets), and plenty of dogs.

[@EagleFlight2007]

16:26 I love how your first instinct when getting damage is to ask us viewers what’s going on 😂

[@jaykahn8317]

Had to comment again i love that the a10 you use has my state flag on it On a more serious not keep up the great content and hope baby gr is doing well

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@Swedester]

Should’ve titled it: “Cap learns what oversteer is”

[@RealBelisariusCawl]

The relief he must’ve felt when he heard that the burning carcass was going to miss him. And the slight disappointment.

[@rayvanhorn1534]

You guys are a riot! Love that you take it serious yet have a good sense of humor. Was thinking how fun it would be with Korean War era aircraft. My "Final Countdown" twisted brain also thinks it'd be interesting to see a couple of WWII fighters against say 20-30 WWI era birds! 😆 (be fun to fly with you guys)

[@WhiskeyHunterVAT69]

that was a fun mission. thank you for the VOD. 🥃🥃

[@MTBScotland]

@ 14:28 ia like that scene from Blazing saddles round the camp fire.

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

Total carnage and fun today! Thanks for the vid guys!

[@Spinobreaker]

I wonder how well 1 modern carrier could help prevent the blitz.

[@rmp5s]

Yeeeeees...

[@jimrussell4062]

A "Final Countdown" sort of scenario with a US carrier (or British) appearing in the Channel?

[@leeroyloke8415]

I just have another question, how effective the A-10 Warthogs would be if those same Ju-88 bombers had Me-109 and Me-110 fighter escorts to protect them?

[@karlosgill]

Agreed, would add a greater level of realism to this

[@leeroyloke8415]

@@karlosgill Plus, for both B-17 intercept scenarios, the B-17s had fighter escorts to protect the B-17s. I recalled for the B-17s vs. 1960s/1970s SAMs scenario, the players were piloting fighters and some ended up serving as living shields against the SAMs. In both Ju-88 vs. A-10 scenarios, there were no such fighter escorts to compare side-by-side.

[@grimreapers]

That would be a freaking nightmare. We've done a few like that and always ends badly for us.

[@karlosgill]

@@grimreapers I swear in all the scenarios with ww2 fighters vs modern you guys get thrashed

[@leeroyloke8415]

​​@@grimreapers Which war-gaming scenario videos were those? Plus, what you've described sounds interesting to watch as it's something new.

[@devolvedmutant]

Shouldn't be watching this as the wife is trying to sleep. Watching the Jeep shenanigans and busting out laughing. :D

[@jamesa.7604]

Great Mission, Guys! Love the video. The jeep driving was too much fun!

[@Anarchy_420]

My birthday is May 30th😅 3:08 lmao what was that Cap?😂 It'd be cool af if you set up the ramps again except this time on a mountain! Lol first launch Jeeps then Planes ;)

[@IrrelevantHacks]

I don't remember what game it was, but maybe Falcon 4.0, or one of the A-10 specific games years back. But I remember that in at least one of them, the A-10 was considered a bit of an underdog as a fighter, since it could carry 2 sidewinders on most of it's underwing hard points, which I think meant a maximum load out of 12 sidewinders on each jet. I wonder if DCS would allow for that?

[@Greybeard1357]

I remember that game, around the time era of Falcon 2.0 release. Yes you could mount nearly anything on any pylon. Never had much luck with the Migs but it work well vs the enemy helicopters. In comparison Apache Longbow stingers worked too well. Not sure if DCS would allow it though.

[@paulholm4827]

'That was fun! Liked the driving in London and also when the squad started attacking the bombers with guns. Such a great sound of Brertt Brertt all over the place.

[@DirtyHairy1]

@16:20 that reminds me of Porco Rosso when someone shouted at him "I'll make Prosciutto out of you!" :)

[@totalnerd5674]

Hey GR, just a suggestion for a future mod you could make. In modern SEAD ops one important tool to use is aerial decoys; I know that core game has the ADM-141 TALD decoy, but a newer decoy currently in use is ADM-160 MALD that upgrades the range to 920 km. It would be interesting to see a more complete SEAD doctrine implemented into the game!

[@MaxIsStrange1]

That’s a great idea! If I remember correctly, MALD also has a version which uses EW to simulate the radar return of other aircraft so it can make itself look like a real F-15, C-5, etc. to enemy radars.

[@totalnerd5674]

@@MaxIsStrange1 Ah, yes. Well, its just that EW doesn't work on weapons, so it will just have to function as a TALD with extra range.

[@MaxIsStrange1]

@@totalnerd5674 Right. I forgot that DCS is pretty horrible at modeling anything EW-related 😕

[@MaxIsStrange1]

@@totalnerd5674 On the other hand, there might be a workaround. Since it’s only launched from the F/A-18, you could try to make it imitate only the Hornet and, instead of using EW, set the TALD’s RCS to the identical value to the F/A-18’s and basically copy over all the relevant values. It seems like it might work… However, even a simple decoy with such an increased range, and with the ability to set its flight path, or make it loiter over a certain area still would be amazing.

[@totalnerd5674]

@@MaxIsStrange1 Actually I think the core game TALDs already copy the signatures of the launch plane. Either way it should work well enough.

[@wilomica]

That was definitely better as I watched the first video less than a week ago. Fun!

[@Ben_Gunner]

Your driving is atrocious 😂 love the channel!

[@rogerrussell5155]

Loving the drive through the lush green streets of Lon don regards ..a faithful viewington

[@5Andysalive]

That road trip reminds me a lot of the Arma sessions. The problem is, driving a car makes you realise hwo slow the A-10 is afterwards.

[@jeffhillstead3302]

The jeep drive was funny 😊 I noticed no fighter cover 😮 good stuff..

[@areyoulying4937]

I was stationed at RAF. Woodbridge/ Bentwaters in the early eighties! I love the A-10’s! Trivia, during WWII the runway was used as a B-17 recovery runway for bombers to shot up and unable to maneuver. Love Ipswich!

[@grimreapers]

My parents live right next to Bentwaters :)

[@areyoulying4937]

@@grimreapers small world! ❤️

[@brianpullin683]

Insteresting vid as always, HE-I brrrrrt... awesome. Have you every done a vid mimicking a ME 163 komet, but in aircraft from different eras reach altitude, use all limited fuel then glide intercept bombers and glide back to base 🤪

[@toddcanipe1190]

Love Grim Reapers!! You guys are hilarious!!!

[@MattWaller04]

I would like to see a Jeep mission where you are traveling through the mountains trying to avoid helicopters. A kind of hide and seek mission so to speak… could be fun, and you lads are just the group to make it happen 😎

[@dc-vw4qm]

15:10 oh that was a sexy double kill, weaving through them

[@samspeed6271]

A wonderfully wacky video. I heard a while ago on a Ralfi video that the A-10A is a bit lighter than the C model, so it's a bit faster. The new map looks good. It's just a shame we don't have early war aircraft like the Spitfire Ia and IIa, Hurricane and Bf109E. I guess Cliffs of Dover still has some use.

[@grimreapers]

Roger, I expect the C model has more tech in it?

[@thereub8166]

Bloody hell man! You've missed a perfect opportunity for a LeMans start. 😂

[@tom23rd]

Só much brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt! 🎉😍😍😍 A10 on PC has come a long way since the old DOS A10 Tank Killer by ..sierra online was it? (Nostalgia for that game and F-19 Stealth Fighter brought me here 😊)

[@roshanchachane142]

When you're so used to piloting planes, you forget how to use a steering wheel on a four-wheeler.

[@TessaractAlemania-hd7tv]

Most time I see your videos it makes fun to watch this creative scenarios. As living in germany naturally I would like to see an virtual battle Germany vs. England with ME 262s, Hortens Stealth Jets 229 and H IX, Stukas, and a lot of the other last secret weapons of the Luftwaffe, supported by a lot of V2 missiles, as well as the german fleet and the U-Boat Wolfpack surrounding whole Brittain... ;P The Blitz Storm is coming! ^^

[@winstonsmith8441]

Really impressive visuals.

[@mgplaying8435]

I hope DCS will be a full sim on ground, sea and air someday where you can do all this crazy shit...

[@jefferyshall]

Best SOUNDING air battle I've ever heard!!!

[@GamersGettingPlayed]

also having worked on that GAU The simulations seem to say those bullets travel one right behind another. Nothing could be further from the truth. They are a very close pattern when we test them out to 75 yards but I had a half a mile the spread is incredible. Probably more like 150 to 200 feet wide, and that's intentional as it was meant to be weapon

[@Davros-vi4qg]

Bert, Burt, Blert, Blurt, nah BRRRRRRTTTTTT!!!!

[@jdickson1234]

Wow nice landing!

[@lunarpollen]

Since it's a known that A-10s are not good for scramble-type intercepts, maybe a scenario should have them doing combat air patrol instead, maybe dispersed over a few thousand feet of altitude in the middle of the usual altitude range of most German raids (e.g., if Luftwaffe raids most often occur with low-altitude raids coming at 1,000 feet or less and higher-altitude raids coming at 20,000 feet or above, then have A-10s patrolling spread out vertically from 10,000 to 15,000 feet). The mission could start with air spawn of players...

[@jimrussell4062]

I wonder if it would make a difference long term in an actual campaign? Once the sidewinders are fired off and the Luftwaffe learns what they are up against, it might not be so easy. (Once they learn how SLOW the A-10s are for example)

[@Stoggler]

That reconstruction of London you’re driving through is awful!! The rest of the vid and game though is brilliant!

[@gravesclayton3604]

Watching Grim Reapers is so much like watching Monty Python' Flying Circus. Th fact that Cap sounds like Eric Idle clinches it, lol!

[@andrewp8284]

What about a jeep race, but with a heli or aircraft in the air trying to blow everyone up before they reach the finish line?

[@themchangesband]

"The perfect intercepting A10" nice. :)

[@manjisaipoe517]

Thanks for the hog fun everyone, one of my favorite planes to hear and see. Peace.

[@robertvantine2810]

Two things: 1) Can you imagine a fully 21st Century A-10 with all the new accoutrements? Not overhauling existing airframes, but a complete rebuild from the ground up. It's is such an effective weapon, but a next generation version for protection, better avionics, better engines, better everything. 2) Cap needs to either have the Reapers race WWII jeeps on an aircraft carrier deck or launch them from one...

[@DavidFMayerPhD]

A-10 is NOT a fighter aircraft. Try an F-15, F-16 or F-35 USA discovered the way to beat slower aircraft was NOT to dogfight at all. Instead, gain altitude, swoop down until they are momentarily in your gunsights. Shoot, then scoot away before they can respond. This is how the Hellcat defeated the ZERO. A supersonic jet, even limited to cannons, would operate the same way. Swoop, shoot, scoot. Never dogfight with a slower, more maneuverable aircraft. Your superior speed makes it unnecessary.

[@Wolfe351]

that bump/hill in runway would be interesting in the Harrier as a ski jump.....

[@gunzelloharris3348]

OH!! the BRRRRRRRRT!!!!! Nice ;)

[@grimreapers]

Hi Ello x

[@rmp5s]

"Oh God, a guy's gone inside me." -- Cap, 2023 🤣

[@grimreapers]

erm

[@rmp5s]

@@grimreapers 😆

[@matthewfischer9983]

WOO!!! Nice Maryland ANG representation!

[@adamg280]

We’re just gonna speed by “a guy’s gone inside me”😂😂

[@grimreapers]

yes please

[@Greybeard1357]

Cap, sorry to say you never get sleep again, even after they're out of the house at university. Good news is you get used to it after a few years.

[@pappajag]

You have all the advantages. Wow, they didnt even have fighter escorts. Hope that made you guys feel like real men

[@pierrelahaie6359]

Keeping 2 sidewinders for the end of the fight, would let some last long range kills when out of range of the gun. If ever you do this again! I would'nt mind.

[@kingfish4575]

Guess driving through the map is a good way to show it off.

[@Levexter69]

you should make a hide and seak on London or Paris and like an A-10 or some armored vehicle hunts the little willys, that sounds funny as hell

[@jdickson1234]

"They did bad things" Hilarious

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

"The survivors call it the Pale Horse or the Grey Death... its engines emit a whistling scream, their guns roar with the sound the sky tearing... we must devote all creative and technical force of the Realm into rocketry, or the sky is truly lost."

[@Atrahasis7]

More challenges against WW2 era with super tucanos or pucaras, hell all the modern counter insurgency aircraft would be fun.

[@azoriusmage]

Haha loved the start

[@ryangraber7929]

Big gun go brrrr

[@TheProtogun]

These fly by shots... If I watch them 20 times more my screen gets wet. Dang that's sexy! Doesn't matter what kind of jet. Just the jet sound ❤

[@sercrets9531]

Would love to see that jeep race at the airfield lol

[@HeloHounds]

Jeeze, two years ago the first one was made? Seems like I just watched it a couple months ago!

[@grimreapers]

I am also worried by this.

[@terryboyer1342]

Finally, the Hawg doing what it was designed for!

[@ryanerickson8138]

Good looking map. Formal Jeep race incoming.

[@jdickson1234]

Just started but A-10 as a fighter? This in alien sim territory lol. But always fun.

[@Psychobolic77]

Right, then. Well, maybe in the future you could try intercepting bombers with other bombers just for the LOLs.

[@Wolfe351]

noticed the train Cap passed is a WW2 European type train not a British style steam loco.....they are very different in design style. They model rail rivet counter in me wanted to point that out!! LOL

[@poodlemeister22314]

I'm sorry but having to bail due to hitting a plane corpse is hilarious

[@brandonclark435]

It is wierd seeing A-10s above the clouds

[@Graywolf116]

Lmao I want to see A-10s vs B17s, 24s, and B29s :D

[@starrmann314]

Just trying to get to the train station reminds me of the shriners in a parade

[@chuckhighlights5544]

How about B25 advance technology mini Gatling guns and more

[@jdickson1234]

I would probably get in a bad accident trying to drive in these reversed lanes.

[@Max_Griswald]

I was going to say, how can Cap be so bad at driving, yet so good at flying? Then he went ahead and ran into a Ju-88...

[@grimreapers]

I'm a pretty crappy driver IRL also...

[@Max_Griswald]

@@grimreapers - You make up for it in entertaining commentary and pretty damn good flying skills, tbh.

[@Anarchy_420]

Would it be possible for you guys to arm The A-10 with AIM-260 JATM?? Please do a similar scenario-- P-80 Shooting Stars intercept Ju-88's with variety of escorts FW-190's and BF-109's!🙏👍

[@jimrussell4062]

A "Secret Weapons of WW 2" sorta thing? (Like that game Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe" where it was P-80s vs Me-262s and all the other neat prototypes?

[@Anarchy_420]

@@jimrussell4062 that's kinda what I'm driving at, like how they do these "time travel" scenarios! Instead (for the era) just a slightly advanced squadron of P-80's!

[@Anarchy_420]

@@jimrussell4062 my attitude is if GR had access to The Me-262 they'd be going crazy with it, lol P-80 is essentially U.S. equivalent, and they have access to it! Hence let's see it in action ;) I've already talked to Cap about it... He said he'd be doing something with it soon, this was just a reminder post

[@grimreapers]

We have tried to add the GR weapons to the "core game" planes but 99% of the time it just doesn't work.

[@Anarchy_420]

@@grimreapers I see, just thought A-10 with some long range capability would b interesting

[@patricktracy4371]

Watching, thank you, vvvvv

[@armoredinf]

16:27 Shot down by that invisible Messerschmitt

[@grimreapers]

agreed

[@seangfoster1974]

Wow, what a brrrrt party!

[@doublebackagain4311]

So Satisfying

[@themchangesband]

Waiting for the MPs to show. lol

[@kith00000]

The bombers did pretty well at killing jets, I was a bit surprised.

[@chrisc1140]

Well the A-10 is about the same speed as the things those guns were designed to fend off. And while the armored cockpit means a pilot snipe is basically out, turbines are if anything LESS resistant to damage than piston engines. Aircooled ones at least. And while an A-10 can retain enough control to RTB with severe damage, they aren't able to do much else if their hydrolics get winged.

[@dereklucero5785]

Just a question…. I’m thinking of downloading this simulator. When the target is in the bubble is the bubble already accounting for lead? I’m a tank jockey…. Tanks don’t go 200knots.

[@terencyowens9491]

How about modern jet trainers VS a large bomber/ fighter raid made up of Me262, Horten Ho 229 and the Arado Ar-234.

[@stxrobstar]

Suddenly, it it all makes sense. 😆🚔

[@TeamHappyChainsaw]

The orginal Jeeps will roll over at as little as 5mph, so their modeled pretty accurately.😂