Could A Single B-21 Raider Destroy An Entire IJN Pearl Harbor Carrier Group? (WarGames 101) | DCS

We simulate whether a single B-21 Raider armed with AGM-158C LRASM anti-ship missiles, with help from F-22 Raptor, could have stopped the Imperial Japanese Navy carrier group which attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941.
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[@moistmike4150]

What's nuts is that just one of them Fox-3s cost WAY more than the Zero it was aiming to shoot down.

[@shilohlee4332]

That stood out to me too. But at least it's not more than the Ships that the Zeroes are/would be trying to sink. And equipment is easier to replace than personnel, especially when your Nation's superpower is $ I believe the relevant emoji is >:3c

[@chimerancreator9797]

maybe you guys could do a long range mission where the goal is to return home afterwards (fuel conservation challenge with fully loaded planes) if the mission is an intercept or an actual strike mission is completely up to you.

[@Elvarks]

Whole evening entertainment, would love it!

[@MrJay_White]

operation chastise 24. take off from tiawan or japan to destroy the 3 gorges dam, before it falls from structural failure. and make it home again.

[@ejt2287]

Imagine being a sailor on the IJN fleet and suddenly all the ships and planes around you start blowing up and you have no idea why

[@121felps]

sabotage

[@TimperialBroadcastingAgency]

@@121felps listen all y'all it's a sabotage

[@joerussell9574]

I wonder what the Japanese would have thought seeing the imperial fleet just exploding before their eyes and their vaunted zeros swept from the sky from out of nowhere.

[@christophero55]

Confusion and sheer terror I think.

[@gwydionrusso3206]

"The Gods are angry"

[@woollysheep6320]

Probably the same thoughts when they were informed of two major cities just being vaporised of the face of the earth.

[@joerussell9574]

@@woollysheep6320 Good point!

[@MrJohndoakes]

"Horry SHIIII...."

[@christophero55]

Shame the server crashed but it was still a really fun watch. Great coordination between GCI and pilots and the overall tactic was sound. I have to say this was one of the all around top war games performances. Thanks for the entertainment today guys and gal!

[@flossordie2256]

Some of the best content on KZbin despite the limitations of the game.

[@christophero55]

I watch a GR video almost every day. Basically my favorite show is "Grim Reapers."

[@Maverick0451]

EXCELLENT deconfliction Grim Reapers!!!! That communication, especially right before the Raider was attempting to take off for the second time, that was excellent. That was swarm kill pro status.

[@greylensman2834]

Meaning no disrespect but can anyone else see Cap. having a post-it-note(tm) over his targeting scope with " Master Arm ON!" written on it?

[@grimreapers]

I want this idea.

[@therealdebater]

By the way, the reason why the Zeroes are called 'Reisen' is because the Japanese kanji 零戦 for 'zero-sen' can also be pronounced 'reisen' (pron. RAY-sen). So they were often called that by Japanese people reading the kanji in that way.

[@therealdebater]

Yes, in fact, the F-22 Raptor upgrade program includes installing _two_ cup holders and an automatic Ovaltine dispensing machine. Technology just keeps marching on.

[@streetcop157]

If you forget how to land just reach over your head and grab the auto landing handle

[@jamesmaddison4546]

🤣 i just almost choked on my drink

[@streetcop157]

@@jamesmaddison4546 when I was a kid my dad ran a charter service and sometimes dropped parachutists….. he had a convertible mustang at the time so they would sit on the folded top and ride out to the flight line….. we were running some out one day and at @25mph the guy on the right pulled the ripcord on the guy in the middle. He had just about enough time to say “you mother…” before disappearing off the back of the car…..a great time was had by all….well maybe not all.

[@doublebackagain4311]

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 CAP: "That's a Lot of Zeros!"

[@coriespringer9785]

I wonder if you could simulate a C-17 Rapid Dragon strike against either the Normandy invasion, Pearl Harbor, or Leyte Gulf?

[@grimreapers]

Will do.

[@dexlab7539]

Wow - Super Cool idea!! No idea how you’d simulate that in DCS 🤔

[@urielmanzone1772]

@@dexlab7539 i guess in a similar way the armament on the C130 mod

[@chef2303]

Can I just say that I love hearing "Hello valued viewers, I hope you are all doing very well."?

[@clangerbasher]

I can't wait to see you chaps flying a real plane when Phantom comes online.

[@Aikibiker1]

In future wargames where you want an asset to return and rearm, you may be better off timing the rate at which that would happen and then just spawning in a new asset. For this simulation you could have set a 15-20 minute spawn rate for the raider and been pretty close.

[@jadefalcon001]

"poor man's aegis" is one of my new favorite things. those vector instructions were bang on and sounded so profesh!

[@grimreapers]

Very unlike us...

[@xenaguy01]

40:00 *CAP* msg for *GRUMP:* "There's a B-21 crossing the runway." [For the third or fourth time ...] *GRUMP:* "Thanks, *CAP.* ... I didn't see it on the runway." *SOMEONE:* "That's cuz it's _stealth,_ Man." 😄😆😅😂🤣 You couldn't *WRITE* dialog this hilarious.

[@grimreapers]

that's quality Banter right there.

[@meanman6992]

Good day valued viewers!

[@nathaniellazo5912]

Yep, it always is!!

[@kieranviner9496]

Good day sir!

[@christophero55]

Good day to you.

[@denkeylee]

I thought my gear was down, Classic.

[@denkeylee]

@OfficialGrimReapers Thank you very much. Please give it to the number 2 person. Take care.

[@clangerbasher]

I still think you need to rerun your Boghammer swarm with fewer and much slower boats. Super video again.

[@captainconway2236]

YEAH! Violet earned those cookies!

[@violetmoon5702]

Still haven't seen them lol

[@simba1113]

yeah but then when she crashed on landing she wen't in debt and owes cookies hahaha

[@miketabata7957]

The LRASM has AI technology, so the weapon can be programed on which ship to hit, to ensure no more than one weapon will hit the same target if need be. The LRASM can also be programed on which part of the ship you want to hit.

[@JD-sb4ss]

Chainsaw is a good strat here, keeps a steady stream of missiles blunting the spear of zeros. For that reason a platform that carries more missiles and fires on datalink would be even more effective. Stealth is less useful on defense than offense so nonstealthy missile trucks might do well in this scenario.

[@gordonpromish9218]

that was nice, and uncommonly well-directed.

[@JD-sb4ss]

25:49 love the map viewing, please keep doing this. If anything the other GR folk besides grumpnik need to start sending you their cockpit footage so you can show more perspectives!

[@KGDJLX]

I watch these videos just to hear Cap say that he hopes I'm doing well.

[@vk45de54]

Rei shiki (type 0) sentoki (fighter plane). Reisen is abbreviation for that.

[@mibo747]

Great to see TEAM WORK!

[@mphelps7919]

Grim Reapers to the rescue...had a shite day and this should cheer I up.

[@ronaldfinkelstein6335]

The stealth is irrelevant. The Japanese fleet has no radar...only the Mark 1 Eyeball to detect the bomber.

[@tgrt1348]

The advance of tech in less than 100 years is incredible

[@ronjones9447]

Incredible = scary

[@monicahmuthoni1216]

Imagine what weaponry humans might have in year 2100 of we don't kill ourselves b 4 that.

[@ronjones9447]

@@monicahmuthoni1216 I think to be honest we will kill our selves before then, I often wonder what amazing f thing we could do for our country if we did not have to spend 700 billion a year on defense. I know imdreaming

[@theoneneo5024]

I love when you guys use a GCI. That should become a normal thing when you have an AWACS.

[@kentgoldings]

I’m sorry I won’t be alive to see future Grim Reapers run a simulation to see if an orbital bombardment from a single satellite can stop Pearl Harbor. Is it that this nose is still bloody after more than eight decades? Or, in the eyes of aviation enthusiasts, is there something so irresistibly beautiful about the Kidō Butai at the height of its power that we are filled with a desire to smash it. If so, I’ll bring the popcorn.

[@captaindaedalus1]

I lived at Andersen a couple of years up on the hill overlooking the airfield, somewhat near the big fuel tanks. It's good to see the similarity to the real place. Guam is beautiful. One little detail: I never, ever saw a landing or a takeoff in the direction of your landing regardless of wind direction.

[@arows66]

Welcome back Grump!

[@RossOneEyed]

Reisen (Zero) because - "The A6M was usually referred to by its pilots as the Reisen (零戦, zero fighter)" - zero was the last digit of the Imperial year 2600 (1940) when the plane entered service. (According to Wikipedia, anyway).

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@meltonkentjr1226]

Super video SuperCap! Great job guys keep pumping out the videos the way only you guys do! Does Kortana have her own KZbin channel now Cap? I noticed the other day you said that Kortana and her guys were joining ya'll on an attack video part of the video was wolves and sheep.

[@jaron8633]

I wonder how many Gepards it would take to defend pearl harbor from the attack

[@Darthybuddy]

I think ammunition would be a problem before the number of guns becomes problematic.

[@OctaviusRomulus]

OMG the Raider has a theme song now

[@BBP081]

Have you done a mission of pearl harbor's real defences but at full alert?

[@Squirl513]

Could you despawn then respawn the aircraft to simulate rearming? I don't know how the mission editor works exactly, just putting out an idea.

[@grimreapers]

That's actually a good idea!

[@Squirl513]

@@grimreapers I credit you for inspiration. "Get another one..."

[@timtimmy7887]

Groups name is Cheap Trick: I want you, to want me! I want you to want me, I'm begging you to beg me......

[@jerrycallaio5130]

Loved The B-21 Raider And LRASMS....

[@johnwinter2252]

I can't fathom how it would feel while you are out on your flight and your carrier utterly gets destroyed. A warbird with no home.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Since radar visibility is not an issue, can't f-22 carry more weapons externally?

[@xx-ui2gm]

Did you guys fully fuel the B21? AI might think it's too heavy to land or something

[@ryanpayne7707]

13:45: Yes, by a longshot. Not only with the airfield, but also the parks, PX, shopping, movie theaters, luxury housing, actually edible (actually decent) food, golf courses, high speed internet, ect. USAF personnel who have to stay on army bases for whatever reason actually get a bonus due to "substandard" housing.

[@imthejman85]

Was deployed to Anderson and can confirm, the EOR does basically end at a big ass cliff and yes, there have been planes that fell off that cliff before after rolling past the EOR.

[@ViolentKisses87]

The Raptor can carry external ordinance. It's not been done in actual combat but ....

[@Aardvark892]

When an AI plane gets stuck, now is when Arma 3's Zeus mode would come in SO handy. I really wish DCS had something similar.

[@grimreapers]

Oh man I would love DCS Zeus sooo much...

[@tomaszzbikowaty2854]

I love scenarios like this one ! I would to see a Polish MiG-29s and F-16 against WW2 luftwaffe

[@Power5]

Why were the zeros taking off without seeing the stealth jets? They should have been caught with their pants down when their ships started blowing up from long range anti ship missiles.

[@teresaharmon4405]

Cap, Grump is always willing to help you?? Love the video!!!! GR rules

[@Stinger522]

Two Raiders with a grand total of twenty-four LRASMs would've sunk all of the carriers and a few more of their escorts. Next time, use two Raiders to compensate for the reduced payload. For simulations against Russian and Chinese fleets, send four.

[@sunkings5972]

Turning Pear Harbor into Midway... nice.

[@YIIMM]

Clipping of 零式艦上戦闘機 (Rei-shiki Kanjō Sentōki, “Type 0 Carrier Fighter: Mitsubishi A6M Zero”).

[@jamison884]

A great video as always, thanks! We've seen the "one versus" challenge with B-21. Now, I'd really like to see what you can do when B-21 has many copies of itself to represent that current goal of 100+ in the final inventory. I don't have a really cool creative idea. However, perhaps celebrate the return of the server with a big boom-boom battle? I'd love to see a modern US CSG plus the USAF donating a flight of ~12 anti-ship B-21s and a small defensive escort of F-15s versus a combined Chinese and Russian joint/dual CSG? Since they have a bunch of offensive missiles and plenty of aircraft taking off, it would be all about finding the appropriate balance of USAF assets to create a generally close matchup.

[@tomsoki5738]

Using non stealth F15’s to escort the B21’s completely removes the whole point of the B21’s. They would use F35’s, maybe F22’s to escort them

[@myke5696]

Not a close match up unless you also give the Russians/chinese some bombers

[@robandcheryls]

Damn, I’m impressed at the team work. 🇨🇦 Veteran.

[@a.h.1358]

@7:23 If it hasn’t been mentioned, the song “Mr. Vain” is by Culture Beat.

[@streetcop157]

Stealth or not really doesn’t matter against the ijn at 40000 feet

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

*Flies into cloud of pitbull AIM 120s *dies "How could this happen?" 🤣

[@S.Madman]

37:44 B-21 spooling up!

[@x808drifter]

Surprised as hell to find Pearl Harbor isn't ANYWHERE in this game. Even moreso when I learned this game has been out since 2008.

[@alexcorrea8855]

“ I want youuu cause I’m in this plane” lmao!!!

[@cerberes]

Great mission. Reminds me of the Axis of Time book series.

[@7th_Heaven]

34:44 "This is like a poor man's Aegis right now" xdddddd

[@meanman6992]

Wouldn’t F15’s have been a much better choice for this?

[@grimreapers]

On balance, yes F-15EX would have been best.

[@KLD2929]

I wander if you could have had 2 B 21s. Have one take off, launch and then land. As soon as it lands, have the second one take off.

[@trevorrussell487]

GR owned the sky, that sim.

[@patricktracy4371]

Did you get the f15 flyby I sent?

[@grimreapers]

No Sir

[@ebenitez2011]

F35 would’ve been a better choice as it could’ve carried more missiles both internal and external storage Vs F22 … Otherwise for Max volume and if 15 strike eagle would’ve been the best choice to the amount of AMRAAM missiles they could’ve carried

[@Thribbulous]

Mr Vain was by Culture Beat :) great tune. Didn't think much of your version though 🤣

[@PongoXBongo]

Could a human B-21 pick manually pick their targets like the human F-22s?

[@FBobby]

I knew exactly what you were singing.

[@rockheadrocks]

This is going to seem like a dumb question, but would it not be more practical to use a flight of F-15 EX set up as full on missile truck for A2A and 2 Raiders for anti ship? Seems to me that might have gone a lot quicker.

[@rvail136]

No, 5 F-15X per heach F-22...that is the current doctrine of the USAF. F-15X is only a missile bus for the stealthy F-22's. F-22's are not supposed to fire anything. F-15X's would hang back 15-20 miles while the F-22's spot everything

[@masterhacker7065]

I mean i dont wanna be that guy but a B-21 could win by just carrying 4 B61 Thermonuclear gravity bombs, drop them on the fleet and just leave.

[@jaybockstoce]

Why not use weapons on the pilons? It's not like stealth would make much of a difference, right?

[@Darthybuddy]

the version of the mod they use seems to be unable to mount weapons externally. It also doesn't have any thrust vectoring as far as i have seen.

[@timbaskett6299]

I always heard the A6M called Zeroes, or "Zekes". The "Murder bread" is in bound!! 😄

[@joevalicenti2722]

Mitsubishi A6M5 Reisen (Zero Fighter) Model 52 ZEKE

[@Tracked350Z]

Pretty cool. Didn't even realize that was Guam. I was almost tasked to go there, but went to the middle east instead.

[@ecbst6]

Yeah, I have Rage Against The Machine in my collection, too 😁

[@MG_Steve]

Out of interest, wouldn't it be better to use the F18 in missile truck config? That way you'd kill many more enemy planes for each flight? I get the 'stealth' mission brief, but its not as if you need to be stealthy here! Hell, you could probably use a flight of B52s with as many A120/260s they could carry (assuming they can, which I don't know if they could). That would make an fun video though, a flight of B52s with Aim260s vs a flight of 300 zeros! It'd probably kill the server and AWACS wouldn't be able to handle it, but it'd be a laugh!

[@dzzope]

Great to see the AI re-arm and re-deploy.. wonder if it will translate to carrier / mass AI involved battles.

[@vonsmutt4254]

What better place than now what better time than here

[@moistmike4150]

27:44 - "Awright you sucky sucky long time! It's time for you to... uh, sucky long time?" ROFLMFAO!!! : D

[@SpamSucker]

I thought Damp was heading in to strafe some flight decks early on, that might've slowed down the launch rate, yeah?

[@williamrigsby55]

I know the B21 is currently sexy but the B2 or B1b carry much more payload perhaps a few scenarios with them might be fun

[@geekyzebra91]

The 90s had some of the best dance music ever

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@smith023023]

Instead of raptors why don't you use f15s as missile trucks.

[@Thewhitetile]

If you dont mind, what airbase are you by that you have f-15s flying over in a couple of your last videos?

[@m_swizzy22]

Caps near Lakenheath

[@grimreapers]

493rd Grim Reapers and Lakenheath UK

[@that1randomguy382]

Got an idea for a video, British carrier group vs us carrier group, with the British one having full capacity F-35s(stealthiest config) and the American one full capacity F-22s(stealthiest config). Also love the vids cap😁

[@pike100]

F-22's can't be launched from a carrier. They're bigger and heavier than F-35's, they lack folding wings, they lack the tail hook for landing on a carrier, and they lack the structural rigidity to survive being launched repeatedly off a carrier deck.

[@mrlodwick]

Yes! Capt chicken Kiev's new spuds and asparagus. Keep up the good work.

[@grimreapers]

Very nice. Asparagus makes my pee smell.

[@drrocketman7794]

I used to have a pastor, who was a USAF chaplain on Guam

[@UnitedStatesofAmorica]

I like it!

[@Mystical922]

Cap what would be cool is if you could get a red and blue side to not know the mission or opponent and have to react as it develops rather than know how much and where the attack is coming from. Make the scenarios more realistic

[@jamesmaddison4546]

duuude thats actually a pretty awesome idea!! Have like a team just go up on combat air patrol and then get intercepted by enemy fighters, during that have a mission update on something like team x is moving land based nuke launchers, go locate and take them out, and have aa systems protecting the launchers etc. Just an idea for a scenario, but this is DEFINITELY an awesome idea you came up with. Given all the things in dcs like tanks, aa, ships, all that, the possibilities are endless

[@Mystical922]

Also prevent them from knowing to attack the bombers and not aircraft because in the real world they wouldn’t know that as an F-35 or J-20. Get genuine war games

[@grimreapers]

Interesting idea and will have a think about it.

[@Stalicone]

Who lands with their gear up? From now on you get to pump jet fuel.

[@richardperry4105]

Why wasn’t this done with F-15ex that can carry more? The stealth has no benefit, you need missle trucks.

[@n8v93]

Would like to see this but use murder F35s or F15Xs in the place of F22s

[@shmevan_]

Should have used F-15EX not like it matters if you are detected lol

[@samuelthomas3905]

Great video, wounding if the f15ex would of done better being able to carry so much more, just a thought, keep up the great work!

[@xenaguy01]

I doubt it. From past experience, the GR in the AO for long enough to shoot off 16 AIM-120s each, would have all been shot down in dogfights. The only thing that kept them alive was having to RTB after clearing their rails. As it was, they still lost at least one F-22.

[@Utubesuperstar]

@@xenaguy01 to an errant fox 3 they could easily ripple 22 120d’s before merging

[@Utubesuperstar]

Much better if they maintained discipline lol

[@xenaguy01]

@@Utubesuperstar The operative word is _"COULD."_