UK Carrier Strike Group CSG21 vs US Battle Carrier Group (Naval 26) | DCS WORLD

[@fleet_plastic]

You guys should 2 Nimitz carrier groups against each other that would be insane!

[@grimreapers]

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[@fleet_plastic]

This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you! Keep the videos coming as someone who wants to join the navy I sure do love these videos!!

[@thebeardedsquirt3711]

"Predictions? Simba go first" "Murica" Mah man...

[@jeesmith99]

Mah main man. 😎

[@DEFarnes]

"Geoff, why aren't we using that multi million pound ski ramp at the front of the boat?" "How dare you! It's a ship, the only boats we have are the subs." "Ok, why aren't we using the multi million pound ski ramp at the front of the ship." "How dare you! It is not the front, it is the bow!" "Ok Geoff, why aren't.. oh just fucking forget it."

[@francescoboselli6033]

British ship: shooting down enemy plane that has entered the group airspace: nahhh Shooting down the F35 with friendly fire: oh yes!!!

[@bruceliddle4595]

To be fair, the US has way more experience shooting down British aircraft than British shooting down US.

[@francescoboselli6033]

@@bruceliddle4595 then the Royal Navy, wanted to demonstrate to the US, that they aren't second to them in terms of such experience 😂

[@andyachilleos5013silvereagle]

I remember when the Marines were doing a exercise with the SAS and the Marines put a note on the door saying marines are 2nd to none so the SAS put on their door saying none😂😂🤣

[@mcmerlin1332]

I request a team-up. U.S and British carrier's vs Russia and China carrier's.

[@dhomevideos]

This would be crazy to watch.

[@ryansoto7093]

Yoooooooo!!!!!

[@ambientlightofdarknesss4245]

YESSSS!!

[@ojaspatki772]

Yesssss

[@ojaspatki772]

And if that balances too much to the US and UK side.......add the Indian Carrier Group to the othet side 💥💥💥

[@rodrigonunez9451]

Need a rematch of this. Without Bugs 😉

[@idle_betazoid1990]

I second this!

[@user-xf3ch1fu2i]

What bugs? No matter what it’s going to be unrealistic. Especially with the fact that the f35s stealthy is unaffected by carrying weapons externally

[@fridofridolin]

AGREEED!! Just wrote a rant about this video.

[@WildWestRaider]

@@fridofridolin Use your time better, there's already enough nerd rage on the internet.

[@Idontwantahandle6669]

@@user-xf3ch1fu2i the F-35 isn’t stealth, everyone thinks it is, but it isn’t. It can be engaged from max range by literally all 4th gen fighters, and get picked off at distance by SAMs of all types. Try one of each stealth plane into enemy airspace simultaneously and see what happens once they get into the engagement zone.

[@randlebrowne2048]

Isn't there a famous British quote: "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today."? This video makes one question which side actually has the stealth planes.

[@billyelliot4141]

yes i think it involved the hood. ze germans have good armour

[@randlebrowne2048]

@@billyelliot4141 Yeah, it was when the Hood got one-shot by the Bismark, along with the sinking of several other British ships.

[@Lidds1973]

@@billyelliot4141 It was from Admiral David Beatty during the Battle of Jutland in 1916

[@Lidds1973]

@@randlebrowne2048 losing Hood was during WW2

[@tonymorris4335]

Well they loaded up external weapons on the f35. You don't get stealth AND external weapons pods. You get stealth only if you use the internal weapons bay.

[@kukulkanlordofcas4931]

I love how this started as a simple Mythbusters-esque “how to fight this thing”, and now we’re just a community of people getting together every once in a while to watch what is basically an underground boxing match, placing bets on who wins.

[@grimreapers]

Agree. Not quite sure how we got to this...

[@martinpalmer6203]

@@grimreapers maybe because you know a hit TV series when you see it 😁🤣🤫🤫

[@nikkip3385]

@@grimreapers I don't care how you got to this, it's all fabulous to watch. 😂

[@dung3onmaster296]

CAP: "She is one hot mamma. I should not have said that about my queen."

[@bigbore4498]

It’s ok. She’s single now. Back on the market.

[@YIIMM]

This one's named after the one who's been dead for 400 years

[@fridofridolin]

@@YIIMM so definitely not too soon, I reckon... :P

[@Wayoutthere]

HERESY!!

[@themacker894]

The F-35's without the huge drop tank might be stealthy, but I can't imagine the plane retains much of their stealth characteristics with a non-stealth, huge fuel tank. Of course none of that matters if the British insist on shooting each other down. J

[@121felps]

"you cant see me, but I CAN SEE ME, HAHA"

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

Let’s just say that batch of pilots had a small falling out 😂😂

[@kirad2234]

Would be cool to see an updated version of the British CSG after all the Type 45’s get their upgrades to 75 missiles capability, as well as better F-35 mechanics

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

Stealth didn’t work cause they broke the stealthy lines of the f35 by mounting external munitions instead of limiting to just internal storage, that’s the problem wit multi role stealth aircraft to use its full potential u compromise the stealthy abilities of the airframe

[@deathsquadron3311]

royal navy vs us navy pls?.... it would be interesting considering britain's fleet basically disintegrated after ww2 while america's navy expanded

[@robertlovlie5194]

Agreed, though it had been on the decline since way before then. The HMS Dreadnought was both inevitable and a huge mistake. In one swift strike, it made its own navy obsolete (albeit along with all the others), and the British navy never fully recovered.

[@shaundavidssd]

Are you actually that stupid ? UK v US and you ask for UK v us

[@TonySpike]

@@shaundavidssd i wondered that too

[@steve-iw2bg]

F35 doesn't take off vertically, in a scramble the f35s will line up 1 after another, external weapons diminishes stealth, they use the aim-120D and aim-132 asraam not aim-120C with sidewinder, type 45 destroyers use 48 aster 30 or aster 15 missiles, a meko frigate would be a better analogue for the type 23, arleigh Burke has 96 missiles. This needs a rematch.

[@jonnyreb3032]

In red storm rising, The carriers were attacked with a diversionary group of tu-16 badgers. They launched kelt missiles from beyond radar range of the E2C with a radar augmenter to simulate the backfire bombers. They had the backfire bombers sweep around at an of axis attack with air to ship missiles. They had tu-95 bear reconnaissance aircraft guiding the groups. Heck you could even throw in some fighters to keep the carrier aircraft busy

[@redssracer4153]

The Queen of England firing a Bren gun, I'd pay money to see that!!!😏😁🤣

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@eddiewaynefryejr.8629]

The carrier that's being used in this scenario is the USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN 71. I served on her my last couple years in the Navy.

[@supreme_sense0338]

@Eddie Wayne Frye Jr. Does the carrier use F-35? If not do you know why

[@eddiewaynefryejr.8629]

@@supreme_sense0338 when I was last on her the A-6 intruder was still in service. The F-35 after my time in the fleet.

[@TT-hd3zi]

@@supreme_sense0338 not yet - every carrier needs to go through an upgrade to support the F35 (including Gerald R Ford). So far only USS Nimitz has received that upgrade.

[@819ANT]

Well that was jolly surprising her royal Majesty's navy demands a rematch.... Can we use the Swedish missile's the ones the yanks sold us seem to be detective.

[@Predator-tl5go]

Hey partner hold this L

[@syedbaker3653]

L

[@Ukfairgrounds]

@@Predator-tl5go imagine saying hold my L over a ai battle lol

[@RedTSquared]

I watch these just to hear Cap hyper-ventilate! Makes my mornings!

[@bc3713]

I love how you have to give a disclaimer of "again, this isnt realistic, we're just having fun." I love these videos just to see what the game mechanics do lol

[@bc3713]

JK Caps screams had me on the ground

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@nikkip3385]

To be fair if it wasn't a game, properly trained pilots would be in the aircraft! 😂

[@willwozniak2826]

Clash with The UK with planes from the Marines on board and borrowed a Burke Destroyer.....F 35s vs USN Hornets.....This is CLASSIC...The Queen Elizabeth vs The Theodore Roosevelt.

[@AdamWalkLikeSuicide]

"No, No, No, do you realise how much this costs?!" love it.

[@artonline01]

This is not the way the battle would have gone, but the end result is about right.

[@wallyhiggens5369]

My head cannon for why both fleets stopped moving was because they didn't want to fight eachother.

[@texasknight5175]

"You've been seen, mate." - Cap

[@AdamD19D]

The Brits stopped moving because it was their tea time and there was a backup in the mess halls

[@alinawaz1730]

Grim reaper: Fight Fight Fight Fight After a minute: Not each other, not each other 😂

[@davidwidick1218]

Love the fact the Americans are fighting against a plane that is designed and sold by them in a last gen jet.

[@profo4544]

Lol right.

[@greendude96]

"The stealth isn't working" ....Hmmm, perhaps all the dangling bits (external stores) could make them visible and they can be stealthy only when "clean"? 😅😅 Not sure if it's modelled that way in DCS tho... At least in real life the F-35's use some tiny bumps attached to it so mask the stealth characteristics from unfriendly nations during peacetime, so it wouldn't seem unreasonable that the much larger external missiles could work in same way and not much work for aegis to see them as it's meant to track them 🤔

[@szymonjarczewski3709]

There is literally one constant defining aircraft RCS in DCS. It isn't variable as far as I'm aware.

[@notravstar]

Not modeled sadly

[@aaronbryant1008]

"FAT AMY'S!" Doesn't have the same ring as "TOMCATS!"

[@Medic427]

A fellow Mover fan?

[@aaronbryant1008]

@@Medic427 yup.

[@RAAFLightning1]

Idea: British CSG21 Carrier group VS German/Axis Warbirds. Similar to The Final Countdown, but its the tea drinkers who have been sent back in time to the English channel, and the German air force (plus some japanese aircraft) tries to destroy it? Also the random invisible F-18 who flew straight through a withering hail of SM-2s and CWIS, got bored, turned around, and flew home was hilarious XD

[@usa-1129]

We should do this annually UK vs USA along with Aliens vs USA on the 4th of July. One in the morning and in the afternoon 😅. Also an annual Star Wars battle on its anniversary. Maybe ID4 aliens vs a Star Destroyer and a few helpless fighter squads on bases near by just to mix it up 😂

[@francescoboselli6033]

Wow! I was waiting for this after the episode of Chinese Vs UK carrier group

[@bearcatracing007]

Noticed there was no Aussie Emu v US Carrier group in that list. That's just confirming nothing can beat a Aussie Emu!

[@erichackermann5115]

Fax yo

[@timblack6422]

Your colorful commentary is the best!

[@dhomevideos]

Can we get more cinematic angles? Love the bits when you were flying the foxhound.

[@YukiTsunoda7]

*i love it when Super Cap say "ahhh yes mother is still pumping out her babies"*

[@kayjay6705]

I’m from one of those islands, island of Saipan to be specific. The accuracy of the dinosaur island I’m from is crazy. Lol. Love your videos.

[@francescoboselli6033]

I like how the F35, from the carrier perform a vertical takeoff in 2 minutes with impossible with such a payload. But then from land, they spent like 15 minutes just to taxi to the end of the runway 😂

[@blake9908]

Different types of 35's i imagine

[@louisclark6051]

Love this , type 45 can shoot down a tennis ball target at mach 4 , but cant hit a hornet inside the carrier group lmfao .

[@Owen-fn8ff]

Will Smith still going strong apparently. Clearly bugged, however, so a rematch is on the cards. With a full complement of f35 if possible.

[@APV878]

Just saw on Thefacebookmachine, the USS Constitution page posted that the ship has been declared the "deadliest" ship in naval warfare....So, now you have to do USS Constitution vs US Carrier Group....And then all 6 US Frigates vs US Carrier group. It'll be fun to see Harpoons bouncing off Ironsides. Huzzah!

[@grimreapers]

cool!

[@APV878]

@@grimreapers ....Just thought, to make it a little more inclusive, have HMS Victory as well.... :D

[@jamesohara4295]

The principal role of the carrier and its air wing within the carrier strike group is to provide the primary offensive firepower, while the other ships provide defense and support. These roles are not exclusive, however. Other ships in the strike group sometimes undertake offensive operations (launching cruise missiles, for instance) and the carrier's air wing contributes to the strike group's defense (through combat air patrols and airborne anti-submarine efforts). Thus, from a command and control perspective, carrier strike groups are combat organized by mission rather than by platform",

[@nellyb5446]

Guys, this cheered me up no end after a particularly rubbish day - my complete thanks. Well played all, except the diiiirtyy yanks...

[@notificationguys5128]

The F-35 use missile on the pylon instead of using internal weapon bay Off course the F-18 radar can track them and easy target for SM-2

[@danspragens4935]

I think, though, in an earlier Reapers video they established that DCS doesn't model the effects of external store on radar cross-section.

[@s87343jim]

DCS doesn't model the difference

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

@@danspragens4935 that should be fixed then

[@SinnerD2010]

New US Ship to Ship super weapon, The desync enabled cruise missile :D

[@artonline01]

Well the F35 is an American product and some of the ships. So it like when robo cop tries to arrest an OCP officer the glitches and shuts down. That is what is happening to the brits lol

[@Anarchy_420]

😂

[@kirad2234]

All Royal Navy ships are British, and the F-35B’s engines and thrusters are British, Britain supplies up to 20% of the F-35 parts and introduced the world to the concept of STOVL

[@artonline01]

@@kirad2234 Jokes bud

[@cmdrhudson]

Overpowered has a new definition! And bad modding too!

[@tomboyle7901]

Need a rematch . American carriers are now using the F 35 in tandem with the F 18 in the rear as a weapons platform. Give each country stealth capability.

[@Markus117d]

Yes, when DCS British mods actually work more often than not at least. Lol...

[@TOPBLAZER85]

maybe the UK navy and air force are going with the new army slogan, you know "Lose, Learn and Win" LMAO

[@No1_Inpa_Ticular]

UK lads must have been at the pub before the fight. All the friendly fire

[@oscarzheng9902]

the british doesn't got the glorious american aegis anti air defense system on their ships, explains why so many sm2s went dumb

[@vorlon010]

"should've brought Eurofighters, I told you that stealth was rubbish" ... I've been saying that for like the last 10 years :(

[@Fresh_Baklava]

BRITs getting dunked on like an Earl Grey. With love from 🇺🇸

[@craigcarter9513]

How very frustrating Cap. I hope Simba didn't take the repeated scream of "Die Simba!" to heart. Lol

[@dronevidsandfreedom]

You need to start putting F35s on the US Carrier as they just put the first F35 Airwing on the USS Nimitz

[@grimreapers]

Trying, but can't get them to take off :(

[@MeatVision]

Cap is the first war commentator in history

[@reseidolon]

Does anyone else make software to simulate this stuff? All the errors, planes & missiles doing strange things etc, really kills some of the fun. You set up a really interesting scenario and quite a lot of the time you know the outcome would have been different if everything had halfway worked.

[@danielsummey4144]

Stealth isn’t like an invisibility cloak. It’s about reducing the range that planes can be seen at. At the ranges these battles take place at, it’s gonna be largely useless

[@dhomevideos]

Would you be willing to do a custom full scale battle, with your own specs, no limits Russian vs us, us vs China or China vs Russian? Full carrier groups and over sized air wings? Just all out chaos.

[@martinwyke]

#15 is similar to the plot of the film Final Countdown. A USN carrier travel back in time and has chance to attack Yamamoto's Pearl Harbour attack fleet.

[@Admiral_Pumpout]

Well I never, we have the same surname!

[@louiskirk4647]

The lightning's stealth might be getting ruined by their external weapons, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure having those outboard missiles create a bigger rcs

[@anonymous17367]

They don't *in DCS at the moment*

[@mikemaskell458]

You should put lik 20 of those Russian ships that have the 16 ship killing missiles on them against any carrier group just for fun to see lik how many missiles wil overwhelm the cg

[@cornbread5144]

*** @ CAP/GR --- Can you think about trying a U.S. Carrier Group Vs Enemy Island Air Force Base. --- Carrier group can target base with tomahawks. Base can use long range Scuds? ---- Go! :)

[@cornbread5144]

*** P.S. Maybe an Amphibious Assault with the LVTP-7, Helos , and Tarawa. ( LVTP-7 can go from water to land)

[@grimreapers]

Great minds think alike! Got 3 more carrier attacks then we're doing that

[@cornbread5144]

@@grimreapers Great !

[@justfun287]

Really cool how this scenario assumes the Americans don’t have the stealth plane they developed while the enemy do….

[@TheWizardGamez]

the hornets were baiting fire attempting to gain a mission kill against the british. some very patriotically(suicidally) gave up their aircraft, but they also did dodge like 5 missiles for ever missile hit

[@chrislash8493]

Should make them more realistic! I love how the brits are using the stealth air crafts that America sold them but in this fight the Americans are not using them🙄

[@radianman]

A WWII RAF wing of Bristol Beaufighter Mk X (with air to surface radar, torpedo, 8 rockets, 4 20mm cannon, 6 machine guns) escorted by Supermarine Mk 24 Spitfires or Hawker Sea Furies vs a US carrier fleet.

[@Spaatz77]

Good guys v Good guys. We can't lose!! Actually, the U.S. aircraft manufacturers are the big winners here. Bogs v Lightenings. $$$$ Of course, if you are using U.S. iron against the U.S. we only have to push a button and you shoot down your own aircraft.

[@icysteve46]

" Is that the British way?" Priceless

[@Delta_Zack]

It was bugged

[@icysteve46]

@@Delta_Zack B) Uh huh

[@flighttherapybullisticfpv133]

Would have been nice to see some legacy UK airframes as well as the brand new f-35's...

[@Pax.Britannica]

Yeah, what the heck is up with those missiles? It’s like they programmed every non-American missile as if it were made in China. P.S. it’s Britain. You wouldn’t say, “ships of the Texan navy”.

[@tomwolfe6063]

I don’t know if it’s modeled in the game but the F35 isn’t very stealthy with weapons mounted on the exterior.

[@jamespaladino2784]

If the subs for both fleets would have been out front perhaps their might have been some action. Slow, slow action.

[@cra83]

Pity the bugs got in the way of this one; it was well put together and was still an interesting video though! Id LOVE to see the Kirov Class go against the modernised Iowa Class battleships that were brought out of retirement to match it!

[@nikkip3385]

My money would be on an Iowa. 16" guns plus cruise missiles. Even the aliens got slaughtered in "Battleship"! 😂

[@Subtlenimbus]

Nothing like watching a line of vtol aircraft waiting in line for a runway.

[@wolfsigma]

I love that the Americans have old Hornets and the British have our top of the line American fighter. Excellent!

[@alexanderbobo5307]

maybe it didn't work well bc the f-35's had the aim-120c's on their outer-plyons. isn't it more stealthy when there in the missle bay?

[@raymondyee2008]

Interesting indeed.

[@gavin7796]

Apparently QE can carry Euro-Fighters as well as F35's. Can we try the UK carrier with different Fighters and helicopters onboard? You should not use the Arlee berk. Use 3 Type 45 screening towards the enemy. one type 23, and then two other frigates (we have a type 31 being built). Put in support ships roughly 3 (RFA Argus for example carries 8 Helicopters).

[@nikkip3385]

A QE might be able to carry Typhoons but it can't launch the fukkers! 😂

[@RogueWraith909]

Re-arm the carriers with Harriers... they'll do better. QE took WAY too long to fire the CIWS at him too, it does have four of them though.

[@drexchan]

"Shoot the Boeing" IFF: which Boeing?

[@doubleaplays8450]

recently the USS Carl Vinson deployed to the western pacific with F35C's on board. Could you replace the legacy hornets with the F35C mod

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

Don’t they still use hornets along side the f35s? I know that technically the carriers carry more than one type of aircraft one for air superiority one for ground attack and one for anti naval roles

[@jameshewitt8828]

The F35B looks so much better with RAF/RN roundels on 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@Paveway-chan]

It seems like DCS didn't want to play ball today :D

[@willwozniak2826]

I would love to see this again, except the Ford vs the Queen with the American F-35Cs vs the F-35Bs with The American SM 3 and 6 missiles added.

[@Gman-109]

Carrier air wing 9 has F35Cs - F35c vs F35B would be good times. "Booooooom"- Cap

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@isaiahletsplay5492]

Wait but wont the F-35s stealth be more limited since they have all those missiles and shit on the wings, like doesn't that make then easier to see ono radars.

[@snellsworld2648]

This isnt logical because Legacy Hornets (C/D) aren't used in the US Fleet anymore and two US Navy Squadrons have already transitioned the F 35.

[@WaIterBlanco]

Why don’t you do at least 10 f35 on the qe. I mean in real life it can carry 36 f35b but I get that would probably be to laggy

[@xXJAKMACKXx]

This should be done for different army divisions in ARMA the vs sim series should expand to uncontrollable levels

[@HurricaneWindPower]

I learned DCS is a joke as well British have F 35's the US does not yet we built them.....This would end in about as long as it took a flight to launch Harpoons and the queen would be on the bottom

[@chiefwatta8379]

Me an American watching this :haha bucktoothed tea people bad

[@chuckhood9659]

USS THE SULLIVANS is the US DDG deployed with CSG21 but in this game you've got a Flt IIA DDG. Flt IIA DDGs don't have the Mk 141 Harpoon launchers. THE SULLIVANS is a FLT I DDG which doesn't have the hanger but does have Harpoon.

[@luisvalera]

How come the British are using better American planes that the Americans?

[@grimreapers]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nae3f36uj6-Ao7c

[@welshdefenceforces]

100 Boghammers vs A10Cs with hydra 70s

[@yuriandrigani]

friendly fire? this is why you don't use advanced weapon system produced by another country.

[@cuz129]

Greatest commentary ever!

[@forMacguyver]

And... more than half of Q.E.'s F-35's are actually us marine corps planes piloted by U.S. pilots so...friendly fire explained ??

[@StarScapesOG]

I would be curious to see some of these but with the new Gerald R Ford class carrier.

[@MegaRadarlove]

Loving all you your Grim Reaper vids in DCS guys (CAP) -- Bet you could do 2 Mosquito missions from the movies ---- 633 Squadron --- Norway 1944 (1964 ft Cliff Robertson) ---- and Mosquito Squadron attack on the Chateau (1969 ft David McCullum)--- many thanks