Could A Rogue B-21 & F-22 Squadron Beat A 2020's US Carrier Group? (WarGames 153) | DCS

[@Ishawn.Ramaaj]

Hey cap! If i am not mistaken, there are tensions with Iran and the US. Maybe some sort of combined drone swarm and speed boat attack on a US CSG? Anyway love the vids, keep up the good work!

[@willwozniak2826]

They have done a few of those missions already.

[@piconano]

I would love to see a wargame with Iran.

[@willwozniak2826]

They are on here. look for Irainian drone swarm and speed boat attack vs USCG...theres a few videos on this.

[@piconano]

@@willwozniak2826 seen them all. need new blood.

[@Ishawn.Ramaaj]

@@willwozniak2826 i’ve seen them individually but not a combined attack

[@A_Haunted_Pancake]

Brave Sir Simba ran away. Bravely ran away away. When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled. Bravely taking to his feet, he beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave Sir Simba.

[@simba1113]

i flew over top and dared them to shoot at me. i figured i would leave the killing to Cap and Co. but i guess next time i'll do some shooting lol.

[@Davros-vi4qg]

It’s called a tactical withdrawal, used to overextend the OpFor. Unfortunately the F18s sip their fuel like a hamster at a water spout.

[@Bender_94]

And they were forced to eat Sir Simba’s minstrels, and there was much rejoicing.

[@TheStormpilgrim]

An idea for a low-visibility skin for the B-21 would be to just paint it orange and put "MERGE NOW" in big, black letters on both sides because in my experience, most people are completely oblivious to those signs.

[@wendellgatlin9885]

Red Storm Rising is one of the best war books ever written! I have read it numerous times and listened to the audio versions, speaking of which, can I reserve a copy of the "SuperCap" narrated version?

[@xxxautopsy99xxx]

Great idea !!!

[@BackgroundSpace]

Red Storm Rising is a very relevant book even today. Maybe not the same equipment in play but should NATO and Russia go at it you'll see many of the same issues come up. I could see you guys recreating several scenes from it with modern equipment to see if the tactics would potentially hold up.

[@trevorday7923]

One of Tom Clancy's finest works, good taste there 👍🏻

[@DPRK_Ohio]

i would prefer if it was era accurate to the cold war

[@crowttubebot3075]

I haven't read that book in many years, but I may need to see if I still have it and reread. I was active duty USMC during the Cold War when I first read it, and remember liking it a lot.

[@BackgroundSpace]

@@crowttubebot3075 It's dry at times so I had it on audio book this last time around. It was the first thing that popped into my head when Russia started last year. The issues with long-term high tech logistics were what really stuck out to me. The only thing that I wish a rewrite/update of that book would absolutely need is to address cyberwar. It'd be as transformative as the notion of Total War was in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

[@DPRK_Ohio]

@@rucker69 perhaps...

[@Spartan1-1]

I love the little banter in these videos

[@Memes_i_stole69]

Let’s go my mom beat cancer today I am so proud of her

[@ed-ho1rx]

That’s awesome. So pleased. Makes me happy hearing news like that

[@Decrepit_biker]

A huge congratulations to your mum ❤

[@beretboi]

That’s amazing! Congrats!

[@Memes_i_stole69]

Thank u guys

[@willwozniak2826]

OUTSTANDING NEWS!❤❤

[@WineOnTheDime]

GR is servicing two at a time with stealth penatration. Welcome to DCS.

[@texas8322]

That B21 skin was bad ass. If it could be done like woodland camo pattern with those colors, I think it would've blended even better.

[@7th_Heaven]

They could get into making the new EVE Online ship skins now that that option is unlocked in game

[@7th_Heaven]

A LOT of graphic designers could go giggidy in EVE soon

[@dexlab7539]

I was part of design of B2, yes it does use engines for yaw control. (ie. Stealth Yaw system)

[@MattyJ55046]

B-21 is at least as good as the Raptor RCS wise due to the lack of a tail. B-2 uses fly-by-wire tech using a combo of 4 computers, engine thrust, and the ‘elevons’ in place of traditional rudder/ vert stabilizer.

[@icin4d]

Interesting how people say it takes computers to fly the B-2, but flying wings (the shape) are actually very forgiving. Well, just don't try any Hammerheads (Stall Turn) 😉. There are some very large turbine RC B-2s out there being flown nicely by radio transmitters. 🙂

[@Penguinos1]

Ok balls

[@Dovorans]

​@@icin4dI'd imagine the COG of a B-2 is aft of the center of pressure during subsonic flight to prevent mach tuck at transonic cruise. RC flying wings are notoriously sensitive to COG and COL positioning, but they have the luxury of it not shifting during flight.

[@CH1K3N99]

I have watched many of your videos and have been subscribed for ages, but this is the first recommended in about a month! Will watch this later, seems like a cool concept!

[@Penguinos1]

Balls

[@RT-qd8yl]

Make sure you've clicked the bell to receive all notifications!

[@grimreapers]

Yeh we got removed from the algorithm several months ago. You have to check the GR1 channel manually to see uploads.

[@CH1K3N99]

@grimreapers well I've added you to the Bell notifications!

[@henry_tsai]

From I've heard B-2 use split flap to provide yaw stability, basically if you're yawing left then you just add drag on the right side with the split flap and then you're back to straight again. It's probably not very efficient due to being drag based control surface, thus fighters still use vertical stabilizers, at least that's my guess.

[@Underpantsniper]

They are called duckerons in the RC hobbiest circles.

[@russcarroll3176]

Red Storm Rising was a classic. There's a great chapter with Iowa class battleships. If I remember correctly they also focused air strikes on Russian fuel and starved the army of fuel.

[@Pixxelshim]

Thanks, Cap. I thoroughly enjoyed the discussion while enroute.

[@piconano]

Apparently SDR receivers have been used to detect stealth using passive radar! There are even companies like HENSOLDT selling their Twinvis Passive Radar. Commercial stuff, imagine the military stuff!

[@riskinhos]

that's nothing new at all. that's very old news. passive radars to detect stealth is something used since decades

[@andyf4292]

it looks like stealth is great, against people who are 30 years+ behind in tech

[@trolleriffic]

@@andyf4292 Try getting a missile lock using passive radar.

[@Fl-Pride]

Thanks for putting in so much prep/work to bring such fun videos. Holy crap. My anxieties going up, watching you guys fly that close to it. Lol. Just waiting for it to turn into you.

[@trevorday7923]

The chapter is called 'Dance of the Vampires', one of the best parts of the book, which was one of Tom Clancy's finest works. Can't wait to see how you do it!

[@xKrown]

that "cloud" livery is sick

[@trev8591]

I rather liked the Fractal Day scheme. Red Storm Rising is a great book, you should read it. Can't beat a bit of Tom Clancy. Maybe add Dale Brown to the list, "Flight of the Old Dog" is fantastic reading.

[@WineOnTheDime]

The design of the B2 (and B21) is modeled after a diving peregrine falcon.

[@Jeffrey.1978]

@Grim Reapers - Awesome video Cap, thank you for doing it! The results do not surprise me at all. The Navy's AEGIS combat system coupled with the AN/SPY-# radar suite platforms is top notch. I miss the good old DDG life!

[@OldStreetDoc]

‘Red Storm Rising’ would be an awesome thing to do in DCS. If I’m right in judging the GR community you’ve likely already seen it, but if you haven’t… there’s a YT channel called ‘FIXEDIT’ that has done several chapters of RSR using I think the audiobook with DCS videos layered with it. Really really entertaining. It’s the best I’ve ever seen, on RSR at least. It’d be a LOT of fun to watch!

[@Echowhiskeyone]

Red Storm Rising, Ch 20, Dance of the Vampires. Had to sign an NDA for this and a few other Clancy books. Great books, cannot say what is and is not accurate. But they are good reads.

[@Ishawn.Ramaaj]

8:14 he really said giggity LOL 😂

[@ItsMrAssholeToYou]

Twice.

[@stevenlarratt3638]

Minute slats called ruddervators, like spoilers that open and close upon landing they open up either above or below the wings on either side. A millimeter of drag on a finger is enough to make a B2 yaw left or right. I know the skunkworks back in the 60s looked at bleed air systems as stealth modifications to push air via a bleed air/vacuum system via slats on top of the wing like an upside down blown diffuser to control small pitch and yaw movements by creating drag.

[@anthonyb5279]

Swept wings are somewhat inherently yaw stable. It does none the less have control surfaces that use drag for yaw. Being it is just somewhat yaw stable there is a artificial stability system to help keep it pointed where its supposed be. It is more pitch unstable than yaw the computer has to work harder on pitch stability. If the computer failed it could still fly, just more work to fly. You can try it in X-Plane fail the artificial stability and try and get it on the ground.

[@jaapaap123]

Don't forget the flying wing designs of the Horten brothers. They started as gliders, and then the production version of the jet engined version would be known as the Gotha Go-229. Of course it never got any further than test flights in 1944/1945.

[@PrinceWesterburg]

23:19 - Glad to see a Pole Barn Garage reference there! XD

[@scarcasmtincap2856]

Mega Moth paint job. Love the side view.

[@Typewriter7]

I believe the B2 achieves yaw stability at low speeds via the split ailerons/speedbrakes, since they are angled and have a projected area from the profile, thus giving the aircraft directional authority. Differential thrust could also help?

[@Typewriter7]

Also the landing gear bay doors greatly improve directional stability during takeoff/landing!

[@kurtreichenbach8927]

Normal Flight it uses Split Rudders for yaw and in combat is Diff Thrust.

[@Typewriter7]

@@kurtreichenbach8927 Roger, thanks!

[@mm3mm3]

The new B21 skin is hot!

[@twodaves9480]

A great place to see a Vulcan up close (inside and out) is the Avro Heritage Museum in Woodford (if that’s not a million miles from where you live Cap’?). They even have regular talks from former pilots and cockpit tours. Definitely worth looking in on if you’re ever in the grim north of England!

[@garymyers6638]

the whole and entire point of the the LRASMs is that they can't be see until it's too late. They would be dropped by stealth craft like you did, but they would be dropped at sea level at super dark thirty on a tangential course without support craft. The russians would, in fact, not see them until they were so close that the basic time versus speed equation equals boom boom. There is no way in the world that we would have a cruise missile that cost that much if it didn't do what it was advertised to do. The entire military industrial complex demands it. So, they would not do it from altitude. They would not do it in daylight. They would not attack American radars and the ships (Russians) would all end up under the waves.

[@infidel1993]

This is air force vs navy, which is about as serious as it gets

[@jamesfletcher9032]

could do a hiding under commercial airlines to create war crimes, just an idea ;)

[@kenbrown9773]

At least on the B-2, yaw stability was provided by a modified version of the aileron. Normal ailerons consist of a single flap of metal that angles up or down. On the B-2, the aileron could split; very similar to the airbrake on the F-16. One flap goes up, the other goes down. The goal was to be able to open both flaps to act as an airbrake out on the edge of the wing. That way opening just one airbrake could cause the plane to yaw; hook that up to a computer and we're good to go.

[@MiklaDfar]

I worked on the design of the B-2 flight control system. There are a lot of tweaks in all the control surfaces that keep it stable and controls yaw. Quite a bit of control theory and stabilization went into the design. I assume the B-21 is using much of the system design of the B-2.

[@corvanphoenix]

F-22 should go high then switch on their radar. They can shoot at everyone chasing, then sprint off at Mach 2 & go again.

[@jackimo22]

The B2 and B21 are designed off the peregrine falcon. Hence the side profile looking like a birdy

[@joshberry4813]

Any day about penetration is a good day Cap!

[@callummckie894]

Great video, as always! It'd be interesting to see whether the LRASMs would do any better against a legacy carrier strike group.

[@BenAbrigil]

electronic steering that combines horizontal flaps for movements. the plane doesn't do what the pilot does directly but by combining its rear rudders

[@PoleBarnGarage]

Did somebody say JAAAAAAAAAG?

[@choctaw2sticks193]

look at a falcon diving and look at a B-1 and they look the same . . . their profile is the same, its pretty cool..

[@MrNakedweasel]

I definitely think that the Marianas paint scheme would have been best. 😁

[@colinboneham7387]

No Capt you ain’t the only one who hasn’t read that book, I haven’t.

[@samporter9729]

Cap, chapter you're looking for in Red Storm Rising is 'The Dance of the Vampires', if I recall correctly. Happy reading!

[@solomongray6352]

I believe the wings can bend with micro adjustments to maintain its positioning, and I wouldnt doubt it has some kind of adjustments with engines to help out. Jeez just as I say it the point comes up in the talk.

[@legendsofabhaile]

Here's an interesting bit of first-hand, I went to college outside of the B2's home in Missouri, they constantly flew over. For a "stealth" aircraft, they are massively loud, possibly the loudest Jet I've ever heard, and when 4 of them were flying off in formation, it was like a constant thunder that doesn't quit. Apparently though, you can't hear them until they've flown overhead, and potentially dropped their bombs. It is something to do with the engine exhaust not opening up downwards if that makes sense. I'm not military or an engineer so words is hard. When they fly low enough I swear you can hear hydraulics or something. They were always a blast to watch. That and the attack choppers doing target lock drills with each other over the golf course I worked at.

[@Duvstep910]

imagine the B-21 turns; catches cap off guard and it smacks him with the wing lol Edit: don't apologize for the banter cap; shows the fun side of the group

[@lionemessi]

The camo is giving me dropship vibes

[@rogerpennel1798]

The original Northrop flying wings were viable aircraft but without modern fly-by-wire controls, they had directional stability problems.

[@140theguy]

The Air Force has stated the B21 will be the stealthiest aircraft ever to fly. It's radar cross-section should at least be as low as the f-22's.

[@silas4lagoon776]

Cap, here’s an idea. Can a modern kamikaze attack beat a ww2 U.S. carrier group (ships only, with limited enemy planes. Modern jets, bombs, etc, are allowed, though it must be a true close in attack (no bvr or similar). Also, I would recommend having ships only for the US (very limited aircraft) as to get anywhere near the levels of the Us navy in ww2, you’re looking at arround 100 ships at least. Good luck

[@vonsmutt4254]

You need to start a KZbin channel cooking with cap

[@nomorerainbows]

He would burn every meal.

[@vonsmutt4254]

@@nomorerainbows my experience with British food is it taste better when it's burnt

[@nomorerainbows]

@@vonsmutt4254 Then I would say Cap is definitely your man!

[@ADTinman]

There was a Red Storm Rising video game that was pretty good for it's time, too.

[@airprok8328]

They may be working with F 35’s, idk…. That’s the stuff you guys figure out. God bless you guys, you do a great job!

[@strambino1]

You really need to hear the Audio version of the Chapter “A Dance of Vampires” Cap. It’s like 30 minutes long which means you could re-create the full battle in one video.

[@TheCaptainbeefylog]

The chapter from Red Storm Rising that you're talking about is called "Dance of the Vampires".

[@ForestBlue7]

Super Cap, how come you and the crew don’t use/have custom wraps? Just from a spectator POV, it’d be cool to ID you and the fellas visually while watching. I’m sure you’ve been asked this before so my apologies if it’s rhetorical.

[@aztec0112]

There is a KZbin series reenacting several chapters of Red Storm Rising using DCS done by Fixed It. It is excellent!

[@Stinger522]

To stand a good chance of defeating a modern CSG, more B-21s are needed. Also, the sidekick mod can be configured with either a 4x2 loadout of two AMRAAMs and two Sidewinders or a 3x3 loadout of three AMRAAMs in each bay. The F-16 does the same thing but externally. It all depends on the mission.

[@LarsAchermann]

No one talks about Cap's perfect giggity at 5:59.

[@lutfullahkarahanli]

Hey Cap! hope you guys doing alright. Ive downloaded the game recently, after all these years watching you guys xd. I must say, its easier to watch you guys and enjoy the game; than playing the game on my own ahahah :D

[@solomongray6352]

I remember seeing a B2 fly over at high altitude and found its color very hard to focus onto, it was a clear sunny day.

[@xierus]

Were you looking into a bright sunny sky? That might have something to do with it.

[@raptorblarg2284]

I think this would be a fun challenge mission. But instead of hornets have F-35s out patrolling and don't leave gaps. Get rid of the B-21 and have the F-22 or 35 do the strike.

[@sean.altaccount]

The accent with a "Giggidy" slipped in made me LOL

[@johnnieangel99]

You're gonna enjoy the book. I've read all of his fiction. I used to own the complete set until I lost my house. Each book is as good, or better, than the last.

[@Pablo668]

Many people don't know this, but away from GR Cap is a complete Chav.

[@Avp216_Bouli]

Hello there! Loved this vid. Good stuff per usual! I have a question, assuming you see this! How do you manage to create custom zone shapes (The NO GO zones) in the mission editor? I could only ever make squares and such! What tools of the trade is this? :D

[@MikeHarrison3266]

I can't get over how laid back this all is, everyone fighting and killing while having their jammies on. Since when have the US worried about the cost of war they will spend all it takes as it is so good for the military-industrial complex and its shareholders which is most of the government.

[@willwozniak2826]

Good job guys....always interesting to see how The Americans fare against themselves in these simulations....OUTSTANDING

[@steelersLife4Life]

ANSWER FOR CAP...dont need a tail when you have wings that wide and deep. A slight adjustment across that big a surface is a big, big deal.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

It would be cool to see a rogue sort of element of the us fleet attacking the uk with the Royal Navy there to defend at its best with both carriers and whatnot at somepoint. Also I think the type 31 frigates of which the first one should be commissioned even before the type 26 Glasgow, so if the ship gets made for dcs somepoint maybe that would be a cool addition to other scenarios including the British at their best

[@Anarchy_420]

Yo Cap will you have access to The SR-72 "Darkstar" Mod soon?? Very cool B-21 skin btw!👍 it'd be cool af if you could get some Metallic/Chrome skins goin for several of The Stealth Planes including F-117, F-22, and F-35! 27:26 lol i always watch the entire vid lmao even if i lose my attention for a min or two i still technically watch The Entire Scenario and the befores n afters ;) 30:13 The D3 still acting up...? :(

[@pahtar7189]

The USAF had another successful test of Rapid Dragon, so it seems like a good time to face them off against another target with the guys flying F-22 or F-35 to take out planes that might intercept the JASSMs or LRASMs.

[@Oscar-qh5jn]

I finished red storm rising my 3rd time the other day, I'd love to see that attack! Recently flew around Keflavík in MSFS and it's pretty crazy to put a picture to the book

[@rodneymayfield3352]

from what I have heard, they have a split ailerons that open and close to provide turning force port or starboard

[@T-Dawg123a]

The B-2 and B-21 use split rudders ie air brakes on the top and bottom of the wings during regular flight. When stealth is a priority they lower engine power on one side. That is assuming the B-21 doesn't have some crazy new maneuvering method we don't know about.

[@mildmanneredthinkingman9323]

I remember watching some videos on the B2, it was mentioned that some really good software helps in keeping the plane stable in flight. If someone else knows something, please post. IDK if it's true though.

[@kurtreichenbach8927]

Fly-by wire with alot of data input....Remember the B-2's were built in the 80's

[@GrimReapersNavalOps]

Something like a B-2 has no inherent stability in yaw. It's entirely done by active stabilisation: the flight computer constantly adjusts the split aileron drag brakes on either wingtip to keep the aircraft straight.

[@colinboneham7387]

The famous Vulcan barrel roll.

[@wundex6065]

I would also assume that to keep itself as stealthy as possible that it would use its engines at different throttles to control its yaw or have thrust vectoring nozzles which move the thrust side to side. Both ideas seem reasonable as the engines are placed quite far apart from each other.

[@jamespaladino2784]

Red Storm Rising chapter 20: The dance of the vampires 🤘 And/or Operation Polar Glory: The attack on Keflavík.

[@DrVesuvius70]

Jaysus! You guys should try re-enacting the last flight of the XB-70, with Cap flying the fatal F104 Starfighter. The way he always insists on sniffing lead's wing root when in formation means you're bound to get a historical result. I really enjoy GR content, but if someone distracted by video making insisted on flying so danger close with me it would drive me up the wall!

[@jdickson1234]

Flying delta models was the most fun. It doesn't fly itself. Concentration required.

[@Xaberfold]

Regarding the tail fins, if you think about function, in a fighter you might need more control of yaw to dogfight, point a gun just a tad left or right or do complex maneuvers. If you don't need to do those things, you might be able to generate a stable forward motion without the use of fins. For instance, perhaps the bulgy shape of the aircraft itself is stable enough to carve straight lines.

[@gamecrow8354]

I'd love to see scenarios with the XB-70 Valkyrie! Both trying to intercept a Mach 3 nuclear payload bomber and trying to perform a successful mission with one against varying levels of tech!

[@7th_Heaven]

how about one project Aurora simulation escorted with two 117's and four F35s air refuel mid mission

[@coreymoyers]

The invisibility cloak is achieved by covering the surface with flexible LCD panels and cameras. It projects an image of the other side. Not very practical but effective in some situations.

[@cyrusjalali1571]

So I don't get why the type 55 destroyer with it's AESA radar can't see LRASM at all but at 11 miles American and Russians are able to? I thought radars on all modern DCS ships are modeled with the same radar yes?

[@92HazelMocha]

No, they're modeled differently, although the type 55 should certainly be able to see it. The original AN/SPY-1 ship radar actually had problems because it would pick up birds and insects and that was in the 70's, so these modern radars should certainly be able to detect and track LRASM's.

[@Jeffrey.1978]

@@92HazelMocha That is true, however, I don't have a lot of trust in the accuracy of what China claims its capabilities are (on paper and publicly) compared to actual reproducible and proven capabilities . Only time will tell.

[@fuelguy2020]

Just look at what the B52 does to turn since its ailerons are bolted.

[@Abdullahkhan00881]

you guys should hire CH

[@jaxompol224]

Cap there is a you tube video of the book which covers the carrier attack.

[@firefrets8628]

Maybe next time an F35 should escort the B21 and the F22s should decoy the F18s just before the B21 reaches the bombing the bombing waypoint.

[@ryanpayne7707]

I see the CAF no longer stands for the Commemorative Air Force, if you get what I mean... LOL

[@MattWaller04]

It’s okay, Drop. I’ll be in the Drop Fan Club.

[@DripsDrop]

❤ even my wife chooses Simba fan club!

[@MattWaller04]

@@DripsDrop lmao bruh 💀💀💀💀

[@elliotyates6831]

Profile of a peregrine falcon

[@entityeoe2285]

yf23 doesn't really have tall tailfin, its all rudervators, although when it turns the rudervators theres more surface area, idk how much,, probbably not a lot in bvr or point to point. I also wonder how good the ir tiles by the engines of the yf23 could dissipate/absorb heat with 2023 tech.

[@spinmaster4348]

30:11 Probably problems with datalink of amraam d3. Pretty much every simulations done with it has been affected. Particularly the Chinese US clash one.