HARBOR FREIGHT BADLAND JACK VS PRO EAGLE OFF-ROAD JACK

[@bravotwozero8119]

On every SXS forum I'm on the Badlands has been the main topic of conversation ever since HF launched them. Just based on the sheer number of Badlands being sold by HF, I'm guessing Pro Eagle is having to rethink their price point. About a year ago I bought the 911 Motorsports conversion kit for the 1.5 ton HF jack, and I think this new Badlands is probably going to put them out of business.

[@GrimRZR]

I don't know exactly how they will fair over time but from just using it to start with it's going to be what I would get. I need to find the forums and ask what everyone thinks of my video. If they agree or not

[@jaywelker5566]

they certainly act like they don't want to adapt, either way they're going to be kicking and screaming. They added an infographic on the Kratos webpage filled with mostly misinformation/outright lies or irrelevant marketing points and then in the review section someone thinks the product would be better off with a handle lock, but the store owner feigns that there's no issues with maneuverability without it. Yeah, because giving up the swivel casters doesn't come with any pitfalls. They're going to eat some serious shit if they don't adapt quick. Harbor Freight's already got a great floor jack reputation due to the Daytonas. And this Badland has been cleaning house in every single KZbin review/comparison. Pro Eagle probably praying Project Farm doesn't put their product up against the Badland and the CAT anytime soon, because that'll really do them in.

[@RoadHardRoadhouse]

I agree....i was looking to do the same thing ...until the Badlands jack came out......

[@ian9toes]

I’ve had my pro-eagle for a couple of months now and some kind of handle locking mechanism has been on my wish list the whole time. That locking mechanism is a game changer, I just hope pro-eagle offer some kind of accessory to compare.

[@goinwheelin]

Looked at the 911 conversion and that price is insane. Thanks for the tip!

[@connorellisx]

This was a great review, to be honest I’ve been routing for the badlands to perform exactly as you showed. I think some people put a lot of concern into these things breaking but honestly it’s a floor Jack, they should last a decade with no issues! When it comes to a problem IF you ever had one harbor freight is almost no questions asked for an exchange and only a drive up the street to do it. Budget or not I think I’d rather have two badlands jacks over one pro eagle for the same price. One for the truck AND one for the garage!

[@GrimRZR]

Appreciate it. I think it's a great jack

[@whatfreedom7]

I don’t have that jack but I do have a Pittsburg jack. First of all the HF don’t offer even a year on their jacks. It’s a really short warranty generally unless they offer a different one on the badlands. Edit:I checked it’s actually 90 days. My Pittsburg made it 2 years and now it’s chirping (no it’s not low I’ve checked)and the small piston was sticking in the compressed position. The piston I seem to have fixed by removing cleaning and reliving then reinstalling but it hasn’t been long so who knows if it will last. HF jacks don’t offer any hydraulic parts for any of their jacks. So once anything fails your screwed unless you can find your own parts to make it work.

[@connorellisx]

@ I don’t disagree with you, I actually own a pro eagle jack myself that I got for free as well as an old harbor freight one. I truly like the jack and its ability to lift as high as it does and moving it around the garage. But… it seems to lose have some problems holding compression in the pump and yes I can buy a new one for 100 bucks. Also I still just don’t see why it’s worth almost 700 dollars.. and I truly use my jack more than probably 99% of individuals. In the end it’s still made in china just like harbor freight is. It truly is almost the same product. My personal feelings is you’re just paying for a fancier sticker and being fooled by better marketing. If the badlands fails then you can look at pro eagle if you truly feel it’s an investment but I’m simply not seeing it.

[@tomhendricksen1805]

I was counting the number of pulls on the jack handle when you were lifting. The Badlands beat the Eagle by at least 2 pulls every time. On soft ground the Badlands won by at least 5 pulls.

[@GrimRZR]

Sweet. I think it's a really good jack to have for SxS stuff

[@Fahrenheit_Motorsports]

There is absolutely zero science behind this review, yet it 100% covers most questions out there 😂 Solid review, I'm taking my 3ton extension Jack back and getting one of these after seeing you put it through the paces 👍🏽

[@GrimRZR]

I'm not smart enough for science.

[@Fahrenheit_Motorsports]

@@GrimRZR you and me both brotha 😂 The actions are enough for me. I’m driving to HF now to return this Jack I got yesterday and placing an order for the badlands.

[@dandahermitseals5582]

Just discovered your channel watching this. Subbed. The very best most non bias comparison we could hope for. I'm just an 80 yrs old low bucks man up in the mountains guy using these off road Jeep etc rigs to get up the trail to my cabin. Not a Rock bouncer. They're both heavy for me but price wise and what I've seen in your review it's a no brainer. HF wins. Thanks Dandahermit

[@GrimRZR]

Really appreciate the compliment. Welcome to the channel

[@mrdude2702]

best review I've seen yet of these two jacks. Thanks!

[@GrimRZR]

Appreciate that

[@3rddegree53]

just bought my badland today, its a no brainer

[@GrimRZR]

It's been awesome

[@RoadHardRoadhouse]

I have to say you did an excellent job!!! I do reviews on products as well, and have been looking for information on this jack to buy for outside use.... this video will show people exactly the questions i had as to whether the extra $ is worth it in the end. Excellent job!!!!

[@GrimRZR]

Appreciate it

[@RoadHardRoadhouse]

@@GrimRZR I've watched probably 10 videos on this jack, your video did the best job... also a huge plus that you had both jacks!! If I do a video on one, I will list yours in the description.

[@GrimRZR]

@@RoadHardRoadhouse that would be awesome. Thank you. I still think it's a great value

[@autofanaticcars]

Great review i was eyeing up the CAT version as the local off road shop. As much as i hate HF some of their stuff is really well built and a great value the real question is warranty and long term support.

[@GrimRZR]

You are right. For how much I use mine its going to be good either way

[@vazpaii2000]

Also at KOH BF Goodrich had the badlands in their garage that was setup to fix any broke vehicles at KOH, which was free service. They had all badlands and swore by them, so I went and bought it. Also, the pro eagle ait jack is the best thing since slice bread, I have it and when you get a flat on the trial it's awesome. So I have both brands lol?

[@GrimRZR]

Nice. I'm in for what works not what name is on it

[@Mikesele70]

Thanks, watched a few videos and haven't seen anyone choose the Pro Eagle jack over the Badlands yet, I'll keep looking. Thanks for the review. Very helpful ( I'm going to need 2 of them, I can't see paying double the price for very little difference ( I'll buy the warranty on one of them, I'm covered for a few years....)

[@GrimRZR]

Appreciate it. ProEagle didn't have much competition before

[@jackyspencer9534]

Great video!! And perfect timing. I was getting ready to buy a pro eagle. Think I’m gonna give the bad land jack a shot & save some $$!! Thanks

[@GrimRZR]

Glad it helped

[@vazpaii2000]

Wow, great video, and the science behind it all lmfao. The zip tie part was super technical, haha. But for real awesome video and great comparisons, can you please do one for bud light and coors light?

[@GrimRZR]

Appreciate that. Im not a beer drinker so that would be pretty tough. Maybe a YooHoo and Nestle Quik or something like that.

[@vazpaii2000]

@Grim RZR that will work sprite vs squirt lol.

[@GrimRZR]

@@vazpaii2000 I'm on it

[@powderriver2424]

I just pre ordered the Badlands jack and if you have an inside track club membership you can get 20% off and that took $60 bucks off the price so with tax it was $259

[@GrimRZR]

Sweet deal

[@denz5085]

tried pre-ordering here in S.California and they don't do this for this particular product. Not sure why.. Good to know they take the track club discount being this is a new item.

[@GrimRZR]

@@denz5085 makes it even better

[@brandonc2233]

Just bought the badlands jack. Had to get it from a harbor freight over an hour away! Noone had them in stock! Seems like a stout jack. I run a mobile mechanic business and we jack up vehicles on gravel and grass all the time and this is gunna do it for us!

[@GrimRZR]

It's been great so far

[@douglaspost5097]

I noticed that the extension on the Pro Eagle was quite a bit larger in diameter than the one on the Badlands which I would think might account for the difference in it's stored hight. I might get a Badlands jack because I use my floor jack outside every once in a while and it's a real pain in the rump moving it around out there. Harbor Freight had really come a long ways with it's quality. They used to sell real junk but not any more, I've been pretty impressed with everything I've gotten from there. It's just about my favorite store these days.

[@GrimRZR]

I like the Badlands for sure

[@powderriver2424]

My neighbor bought a Pro Eagle before COVID, he paid right around $300 for it, and that was with a veterans discount. Then all of a sudden they jumped to $600, when HF introduced theirs I paid $250 and it was one of the early jacks. I have been nothing but impressed, lifting my SxS, and my 4x4 it makes things much easier to work on.

[@GrimRZR]

Hard to pay double for a pro eagle

[@I_Count_Twice]

I just noticed this jack was out. I've got two 4x4 trucks and needed a jack. Just went and bought the badlands. I used a 10% coupon and bought the 2 year replacement instead of 90 day standard warranty. Total after tax like 375. Hoping it works out well for me. Tired of blocks and bottle jacks.

[@GrimRZR]

I think you will be happy with it. So far so good for me

[@I_Count_Twice]

@@GrimRZR great to hear that yours is still doing well. I got that extended plan just in case. Thanks for the vid. Def helped me out. Be safe out there!

[@groundzero6129]

Order my jack right before Christmas and was told 2 weeks, 2 weeks later was told the 27th of January. Went in on the 28th and now they say maybe the end of March. Hope you aren’t in a hurry if you order one of these.

[@GrimRZR]

I didn't even know you could order them

[@groundzero6129]

@@GrimRZR they let me order mine, but I am thinking I might be canceling my order and getting something else as it seems like I might be waiting a while and kind of need it now.

[@GrimRZR]

@@groundzero6129 maybe just call some that are close by every now and then to see if they have one

[@RBighammer]

My harbor freight can’t even keep them on the shelf and still not available online.

[@GrimRZR]

Hopefully the stock will catch up

[@TManStudio]

Another advantage of the Badlands is, if you’re u can time it right, you can use a 20% off coupon, saving $60!

[@GrimRZR]

Great point.

[@danchanning3440]

I noticed the extension was coming unlocked on the pro when you dragged it accross the yard. At least it looked as if it was turning out.

[@GrimRZR]

It didn't seem to cause any issues and was nice and fast to change out but for me I like the bolted on version better.

[@highwayman1218]

I have a PE and its been great. No regrets and with the extended adaptor its made cycling my Jeep with coilovers and 40" tires easy. That said this Badlands will be my second buy as an additional and hopefully HF will offer a list of accessories like PE does. What I'm curious about is if the extension section of the PE slides into the base on the HF.

[@GrimRZR]

There really isn't anything for it to slide into

[@highwayman1218]

@@GrimRZR Doesn't the center section lift out of the base that bolts to the jack? It has to move up and down to pin in for height. That's the only downside for the HF is I need the longer 10" adapter for height.

[@GrimRZR]

@@highwayman1218 the tube section of the extension is definitely a different size. It would not be hard to make a longer one though

[@highwayman1218]

@@GrimRZR Got it, thx. I was hoping they were close enough, U could order the 10" and just slip it into the HF base and GTG. The HF is still on the radar as a second Jeep jack. Thanks

[@bobbylibertini]

I laughed when you dumped the zip-ties on the floor. It looked like something Wile E. Coyote would do to try and catch the Roadrunner. (Were they Acme brand zip-ties, at least?)

[@jeromereed1097]

I bought the Badlands Off-Road Jack for $249 on the HF black Friday sale!

[@GrimRZR]

@@jeromereed1097 nice

[@FlameBlue9016]

I like harbor freight’s Badlands line, I have their Apex Winch and it’s been Awesome! My only issue with Harbor freight is getting parts or accessories in the past, so that’s my only misgivings about the Badlands Jack…

[@GrimRZR]

I haven't tried to get any parts yet

[@Blue_Flame_Raptor]

You don't need to get parts. Just buy the extended warranty for 1 year, take it in every year and get a new one. Just renew the warranty

[@GrimRZR]

@@Blue_Flame_Raptor nice

[@georgiaclayoffroad6416]

Awesome video.. you have helped me make mine mind up … going to ring a bad lands jack .

[@GrimRZR]

I will probably get one too

[@denz5085]

I've been seeing pro mechanics using Harbour Freights jacks, I doubt this off road jack is any less than those they sold. I've been looking for one to buy (Dec 23) but their all out of stock. I usually bring a Hi-lft jack & this will be a great addition to it.

[@GrimRZR]

I think it's a pretty good jack. Hi-lifts always seem to have issues when I tried using one

[@denz5085]

@@GrimRZR Hi-lifts have their own use, unfortunately for my truck I don't have a jackpoint for me to lift (using hi-lift) to change tires so I normally jimmy rig something to be able to use the hi-lift when changing tires (which is rather sketchy) I have a E350 4x4 van that sits high.

[@justchillin7274]

I saw some using some harbor freight blue jacks look alikes, but they are a brand you'd find at an autozone store for like twice the price of HF. And some tire shops do have hf ones

[@denz5085]

@Just Chillin Most likely, these Chinese products have been re-branded 10x. Probably Pro Eagle is also manufactured from the same place, contract expired so it's all out for other brands.

[@appleztooranges]

I’m grabbing the Badland for my first ever Jack for $249. HF has a special June 2024

[@GrimRZR]

Nice. Glad it was helpful

[@appleztooranges]

@@GrimRZRthink it beats the Daytona?

[@GrimRZR]

@@appleztooranges never had one of those

[@appleztooranges]

@@GrimRZR rav4 is 10” clearance. Will this make it under?

[@GrimRZR]

@@appleztooranges I hope so

[@matthewstobert1101]

Good video and review. Keep up the good work.

[@GrimRZR]

Thank you

[@RadINation]

Unfortunately I have had to use the Harbor Freight warranty on a winch (for my sxs) and was super easy and no questions asked.

[@GrimRZR]

Good to hear it went smoothly

[@Nick_the_nomad]

Just a side note the first lift on concrete pulled the tires in. When you U let it down to switch to the badlands it stayed up higher so it wasn’t a exact even comparison. Still buying a badlands.

[@GrimRZR]

@@Nick_the_nomad definitely. I did settle the suspension between lifts though

[@95b20dc2]

Great video! I think I counted 13 pumps bad lands to 18 pumps pro eagle on the rzr lift??

[@GrimRZR]

I didn't count but they both were very easy

[@chanzsmothers9447]

Wasn't aware of the badlands brand, but I sure need to find something. This turbo r has so much droop that it's sketchy with all the blocks I have to stack to get the tires off the ground.

[@GrimRZR]

It works good on mine. I have seen it jack up a turbo r on 35s

[@goinwheelin]

Great video this helped me decide what route to take. I’m going to grab the Pittsburgh 1.5 ton from HF and do my own big wheel conversion.

[@GrimRZR]

Awesome. I figured it would be close to the same cost

[@goinwheelin]

I’m a machinist so it will be a lot cheaper. Your video gave me a good look at both jacks and what I want to copy. Again thanks!

[@GrimRZR]

@@goinwheelin nice. Glad it helped.

[@PNWOffroadAdventures]

What was the hight of both before you jacked them up? Looked like the badlands was taller when they were side by side at lowest.

[@GrimRZR]

I will have to go back and look.

[@MindBeyondtablets]

That plastic thing is for shipping purposes, keeps profile low so it can fit in the box

[@GrimRZR]

Makes sense

[@robertmorse4582]

I have the badlands and I love will go across almost anything

[@GrimRZR]

It works great

[@davidedwards5474]

You need to seal your driveway!!! Just kidding. Really like this vid. Tool comparison is always appreciated. Thanks for posting

[@GrimRZR]

I haven't sealed it it probably 4 yrs. I'm sure it would look nicer. Lol. You're welcome

[@davidedwards5474]

@@GrimRZR how well does Roxxzillas do in the mud?

[@lujan3501]

Can you use the pro Eagle mount for the banland ? Has anyone tried?

[@GrimRZR]

I haven't tried

[@Speed-ku6jx]

Doesn’t fit

[@GrimRZR]

@@Speed-ku6jx I didn't think it would

[@evawindom]

Can you compare both of them vs the Cat 3 Ton Big Wheel Off Road Hybrid Jack - 240330? Less then the Pro Eagle, More then the BadLands. :D

[@GrimRZR]

I did see that Jack come up. I was just borrowing them for a video. Maybe if I knew someone that had a cat jack

[@nht306]

Great review

[@GrimRZR]

Appreciate it

[@yourfavoritewelder3162]

I just used the badlands to rotate the tires on my Cummins 4x4 truck. It worked great. I have another harbor freight jack that is ten years old and still works great after years of abuse off-road. I’ll take two badlands over one pro eagle any day. These are car jacks not rocket ships

[@GrimRZR]

Im with you on that.

[@yourfavoritewelder3162]

@@GrimRZR great job on the video man. Totally made it for your average blue collar guy. Answered all the questions that people could think of.

[@GrimRZR]

@@yourfavoritewelder3162 appreciate it

[@fzj8022]

911 motorsports has tons of accessories for the badlands

[@GrimRZR]

Awesome

[@arronthompson33]

One thing about the test that I noticed but wasn’t mentioned that the stroke on both jacks was very different, I counted 17 pumps on the eagle and 12-13 on the badland and on all the test that he did the eagle took more strokes, I guess he wasn’t counting that but for me, less work at the end of the day wins everytime , and after 44 years of working on cars and bus I don’t want to be asking is it off the ground yet 😡

[@GrimRZR]

@@arronthompson33 both are pretty awesome jacks.

[@rolandocarballo5340]

Will this jack up a standard car

[@GrimRZR]

Yes

[@jackfirth3475]

Good review buddy!

[@GrimRZR]

Appreciate it

[@RACustoms]

Harbor freight has a parts department and said they will supply parts for the jack you just call them the # is on the website.

[@GrimRZR]

That makes it even better. Appreciate the info

[@jerrycandelaria8845]

Great review but I was going to say that the parts for that pro eagle are probably going to cost you more than the Jack from Badlands

[@GrimRZR]

Probably so

[@paulcasarez404]

They need wheel locks like a pin that you can push through the wheel into the body I almost lost a few fingers do to the wheels moving way to easy we use floor jacks to lift up RV slide outs as I was lifting a slide out the damn badlands jack moved backwards slamming the slide out downwards thank God I saw the f floor jack moving I will never use this badlands floor jack again I'll stick to the original floor jacks

[@GrimRZR]

It's probably not great for that

[@wmoy8507]

The big difference is the quality of the components. Quality of the piston, the o-rings, etc. That will come into play over time. For the price difference, I too will go with the Harbor Freight jack.

[@GrimRZR]

It's hard to tell that in this short amount of time. Really have to consider how often you plan on using these too. Commercial or industrial use may wear them out quickly compared to me at home using it a couple times a month are always a factor

[@johnnygonzales3211]

You didn't tell us why you have both Jack's.

[@GrimRZR]

I borrowed one to compare

[@jmackinjersey1]

I'm convinced that they are both made by the same Chinese factory, especially since the main pumps are the same, same wheels, same extension strap locations etc. The only major difference is the lock on the handle for maneuverability.

[@GrimRZR]

Very possible

[@randytingen]

Good stuff

[@GrimRZR]

Thank you

[@Leo-fz4qy]

Just a normal Costco arcan type of jack with bigger wheel and extension and cost 6times more expensive.

[@GrimRZR]

It worked good

[@TBD3.0]

Badland for the win 🏁👍🏻

[@GrimRZR]

Absolutely

[@JamesReedy]

The plastic thing just holds the handle down during transport to make the packaging more compact. And yeah you’ll bend the shit out of that bar if you don’t pull it out first… That said they could have just added a second lock notch to the whole handle lock thing…

[@GrimRZR]

I thought that's what it was for

[@MrWortWort1]

The only thing I cared that it won't let a whole truck crush me to death 😅 Not a fan using blocks to reach my lifted truck Definitely not a fan if the jack fails or slips in bad floor conditions

[@GrimRZR]

Good point

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

I’ll take the badlands! For the money! You’ll get a lot more and basically same quality!

[@GrimRZR]

I agree

[@RZRMINERBDR]

You might have me sold on a Badland Jack.

[@GrimRZR]

Its been great so far

[@mobber17]

It’s a Daytona with offroad suspension

[@GrimRZR]

It works though

[@johnnygonzales3211]

I'm getting the Badland it's half the price and it has the locking handle and bothe are made in China.

[@GrimRZR]

Great jack

[@johnnygonzales3211]

@GrimRZR Got it yesterday it's awesome it lifted my class A motor home from one tire like nothing.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

PLUS Harbor Freight always offers 10% 20% 25% 30% off

[@GrimRZR]

Great deals when you catch it

[@ramoncampa9334]

$300 now! Harbor Freight

[@GrimRZR]

I think you can get discount codes too

[@cab1198]

If you wanted to count pumps, badlands took less pumps.🤔

[@GrimRZR]

Thank you

[@stroke0187]

Goes to show that the more expensive option isn't always best! Also to all the cucks that say satv is the harbor freight of parts heres a good example to "the most expensive isn't always the best"!

[@GrimRZR]

The more expensive version was really all by itself for a long time.

[@stroke0187]

@@GrimRZR very true!

[@jerryclleung]

Horror Freight’s Badlands jack is just their 3 ton aluminum race jack just modified…

[@GrimRZR]

Im sure it is. Works good like this for what I need.

[@jerryclleung]

@@GrimRZR yeah that’s good and an extra few 100s in your pocket, definitely a cheaper alternative. But to each their own. What I have noticed in the videos is that the PE rolls much easier. I have the 2 ton and I’m kinda finding it annoying. ANY decline whatsoever it starts to roll. Not saying Horror Freight is horrible, but I too have their 3 ton aluminum jack and after a year of use, it doesn’t raise anymore. I’m constantly trying to fix it, which it irritates me.

[@GrimRZR]

@@jerryclleung I've heard you can look up part numbers for replacement

[@jerryclleung]

@@GrimRZR excellent thx, will look into that! 👍

[@jakemustian99]

From all the videos i have seen i dont see any reason to spend the extra $300

[@GrimRZR]

Me neither

[@brendangriffin1791]

I have seen bigger extensions for the badland it goes up 29 inches thats high enough for me. I have a badland & i like it

[@GrimRZR]

@@brendangriffin1791 sweet. I need a bigger one now

[@gabrielreyes8476]

Both made in China. HF's is equal, if not better. When it comes to offroad stuff, HF is NOT what it used to be. It's waaaaay better. Their Badlands Apex 12000 winch is better than a Warn, which is shit nowadays. And costs half of a what a Warn costs. There is something to be said about buying shit made gucci crap. I don't buy for the name. I buy it because it works and works well.

[@GrimRZR]

It worked great for me