Grip position and arm angle for the perfect forehand 📐

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Patrick Mouratoglou

Patrick Mouratoglou

Күн бұрын

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@RonıN779-02
@RonıN779-02 3 ай бұрын
Tennis physics: The moment arm
@digitalspan1
@digitalspan1 3 ай бұрын
It is difficult to create the whip action if one holds the Raquet from mid of the handle. But for a volley whip action is not required/desirable. In case of volley it can be held slighly up to provide stability and benefit of hitting the desired spot more accurately. Moreover while holding the Raquet from bottom/end the whipping action is natural. Also there is a risk of wrist injury if some player keeps on doing whipping action while holding the Raquet higher.
@Jotoneee
@Jotoneee 3 ай бұрын
Fully extended arm leads to a tennis arm. Even in the picture of rafa his arm is slightly bent.
@hasanjamalkhan689
@hasanjamalkhan689 3 ай бұрын
Yes the elbow is slightly bent to give a whip effect and a n effortless forehand...
@elin1627
@elin1627 2 ай бұрын
You mean tennis elbow? That happens when the forearms moves separately from the arm. If fully extended, the forearm should be rested against the rest of the arm. It's quite comfortable with minimal impact
@tyreselannister7526
@tyreselannister7526 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, I can't wait to put it into practice! 🫡
@daniyarnugmetov9919
@daniyarnugmetov9919 24 күн бұрын
Holding at the end of the handle is only for light racquets or for athletic players, I ve noticed that I can’t accelerate well when holding like that
@antoinev9733
@antoinev9733 3 ай бұрын
et d'ailleurs il m'a je crois souvent semblé que surtout avoir le bras près du corps ( même plié) donnait plus de compacité au coup. il bénéficie plus de la traversée et ça aussi ça donne de la puissance. :)
@miguelbarahona6636
@miguelbarahona6636 3 ай бұрын
Fernando González, David Nalbandian and Lleyton Hewitt hold the racket like Patrick, so... I don't think you lose power by doing that.
@mitchaelhollingsworth1698
@mitchaelhollingsworth1698 3 ай бұрын
Lleyton hewitt was not the model of a powerful forehand though. Great timing, great redirection and clean ball striking, but not so much power relatively speaking.
@MrZener11
@MrZener11 3 ай бұрын
I guess they are old school now
@miguelbarahona6636
@miguelbarahona6636 3 ай бұрын
@@MrZener11 Fernando González´s forehand is considered among the best ever. Nalbandian is the only player to have beaten the Big Three in the same tournament (Madrid 2007). Hewitt was No.1 for 80 weeks and two time GS winner. Not sure if all of them could be considered old school now.
@carlosc4223
@carlosc4223 3 ай бұрын
For me : To hold the Racket as Patrick i gain more Control. If i want power i hold it larger
@sawanav6499
@sawanav6499 3 ай бұрын
Patrick what do you think about getting an extended length racket to help with more free power? I know Serena used one.
@TalitaNaGringa
@TalitaNaGringa 27 күн бұрын
My challenge has been to get the right distance when the ball is coming to contact with the arm extended… any advice for it?
@toonsoffun5733
@toonsoffun5733 3 ай бұрын
Arm extension is based on your genetic predisposition. If you try to straighten it your swing speed will decrease. It’s impossible to control this consciously because the swing happens too fast. Also there’s plenty of pro players with amazing foreheads with a bent arm. Djokovic, Sinner etc.
@Maegnas99
@Maegnas99 3 ай бұрын
arm extension based on genetics? what are you talking about? arm extension is only based on...having arms. Also, controlling extension consciously? of Course you can control things like this consciously, its why we use coaches and practice, so we can do it when we like.
@toonsoffun5733
@toonsoffun5733 3 ай бұрын
@@Maegnas99 if you ask any professional player I can assure you they are not taught to straighten their arm during juniors. Considering 10% or less in the top 100 has this stylistic trait on the forehand. If it was the “best” it would be taught. Not even Mouratoglou himself has this trait.
@Maegnas99
@Maegnas99 3 ай бұрын
@toonsoffun5733 now you're adding all kind of qualifiers to your ridiculous assertions. First you say speak to pros and then you reference incapable juniors. Speaking of pros yes djokovic has bend in his arm, but fed and nadal hit with straight armed forehands. Are you suggesting they can't control their swings? That it's too fast for them to choose it consciously? Finally, Patrick's personal technique is not very good. He doesn't follow his own instructions to juniors and has many (admitted) bad habits. Let's not use him as a reference to good technique shall we.
@toonsoffun5733
@toonsoffun5733 3 ай бұрын
@@Maegnas99 Yes their strokes are automatic due to playing tens of thousands forehands. Could Djokovic hit with a straight arm he could? Sure so the question is what would be the consequences? He has to slow down to be able to straighten the arm at contact to override his natural technique. I won’t respond to you further.
@enriquedavidlerma
@enriquedavidlerma 3 ай бұрын
At the very end he does mention that the extension does depend on the forehand grip so he does acknowledge the fact that not all players can straighten their arms fully at contact
@antoinev9733
@antoinev9733 3 ай бұрын
aaah la mise à jour " moderne" que j'ai toujours eu la flemme de mettre à jour ! :)) alors oui tenir la raquette avec une partie la paume dehors" ça, ça va. mais le bras tendu ?? ah ben si aussi ! par contre, il me semble qu'il s'agit de déterminer le plan de frappe plus devant qu'avant donc , par rapport à la prise marteau (ou presque ) traditionnelle ...changer la prise ?? ça je ne sais pas trop.
@G2daG
@G2daG 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I'm working on it. I have a habit of having my pointer finger upwards when hitting. I can't seem to stop
@PF9O
@PF9O 3 ай бұрын
Kyrgios hits with bent arm, but generates massive power
@mattjagar6324
@mattjagar6324 3 ай бұрын
He’s a big guy tho, the taller you are the more easy power you have due to long force curves. basically you can have the same power with less effort
@张陶然
@张陶然 3 ай бұрын
Thanks coah
@libertadrespetoverdadequid720
@libertadrespetoverdadequid720 3 ай бұрын
super teacher
@Monaleenian
@Monaleenian 3 ай бұрын
Alcatraz doesn’t grip his racket at the bottom of the grip. He does have a straight arm though, which is unusual for a semi-western grip.
@hannesreinhardt1399
@hannesreinhardt1399 2 ай бұрын
That's a pretty debatable advice, even for very good players. And for sure not a general rule for average joe.
@cpasa798
@cpasa798 3 ай бұрын
It’s not for the momentum, it’s for loosing the wrist. If you want more momentum just buy michael chang racket
@goldencalf5144
@goldencalf5144 3 ай бұрын
Howabout using an extended length racquet?
@snickaren111
@snickaren111 3 ай бұрын
That is the obvious question after watching this!
@zanido9073
@zanido9073 3 ай бұрын
I've always held my racket with the pinky hanging off. I never even realized until I played in college and everyone was confused why I had a callus in the middle of my palm (where the butt of the racket would sit). Thought I needed to fix it but guess not!
@Chucklingsaneman
@Chucklingsaneman 3 ай бұрын
So glad I did a physics alevel 😂
@Keepontruckin1904
@Keepontruckin1904 3 ай бұрын
Here comes Jack Broudy…
@WeloveohgreatSam
@WeloveohgreatSam 3 ай бұрын
I hold higher up a little less than him but still high as it feels better on my arm and hand hot having to feel the butt end of the racket
@Maegnas99
@Maegnas99 3 ай бұрын
might be better for you to get a lighter racquet and hold it lower
@WeloveohgreatSam
@WeloveohgreatSam 3 ай бұрын
@@Maegnas99 i just dislike having the bottom of the racket in my hand it feels weird thank you for the advice though I really appreciate it :)
@sudhanshudharmadhikari8456
@sudhanshudharmadhikari8456 3 ай бұрын
Do as I say, not as I do!!!
@maxiv8744
@maxiv8744 3 ай бұрын
Not more power! More speed! Bad fisics!😅 But at least this "more speed" increases the elastic force and, accordingly, the speed of the ball😊
@valeriygoloborodko1469
@valeriygoloborodko1469 3 ай бұрын
Bro does not know what he’s talking about, he even misspelled physics 💀
@maxiv8744
@maxiv8744 3 ай бұрын
@@valeriygoloborodko1469 you are right - big misspelling!😄 but all the rest is good))
@tusharjirafe1
@tusharjirafe1 3 ай бұрын
Hi I wanted my son to learn and play tennis at what age he can start he is 3 now…
@PF9O
@PF9O 3 ай бұрын
Right now
@mteca5093
@mteca5093 3 ай бұрын
GET LONGER RACKET ,28 INCH
@nikhils2381
@nikhils2381 3 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the arm needs to be fully extended to have maximum leverage. There are plenty of good forehands with bent arms. Nadal and Alcaraz don't entend their arms fully either.
@ozsa3156
@ozsa3156 3 ай бұрын
Alcaraz fully extends for sure. On the other hand, Sinner who has a super powerful forehand, does not extend.
@Oephorie
@Oephorie 3 ай бұрын
En français Patrick !!
@jw999
@jw999 3 ай бұрын
Sooo... he plays incorrectly, and now wants to teach y'all the right way??
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