Flight Instructor compares JustFlight’s NEW PA-28R to real life

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Best preview of this bird on KZbin. Really interesting hearing your impressions from a real world pilot. Thankyou!

[@equious8413]

I can't get over how gorgeous that dash is.

[@GripperSim]

It looks great Equious, I still can't get over how good the graphics are for flight sim. : )

[@bwc1976]

Very cool, I hope JustFlight will listen to your feedback! It's great to see more old steam-gauge aircraft represented, and I have a soft spot for the PA-28 in particular because that's what the Commodore 64 and Apple II versions of Flight Simulator II used instead of the Cessna from the Microsoft versions, I always thought they were a little better looking than a Cessna, more business-like, and I also bought and loved the Dreamfleet Archer II for Flight Simulator 2002 which had similar attention to detail to this, so it will be nice to have an old familiar friend back.

[@GripperSim]

It will be on my top 10 for sure, right now its no.1! : )

[@josejacobuk]

As a new flight simmer this was a great review, concise, informative but moreover understandable. Thanks Gripper

[@GripperSim]

Glad you enjoyed it Jose!

[@paullintott]

Bob looks great in VR for me. Thanks for the video.

[@gtw49]

Amazing aircraft details, and with your descriptions of all the intricate functions of the controls, switches, and even the IPad impressed me, looking forward to seeing this becoming available. Thanks for the very interesting and informative video!

[@GripperSim]

Glad you liked it Garry!

[@blackjack6259]

Absolutely great video. Looks like a real nice aircraft too. They definitely put a lot of work into it. Fantastic bloopers at the end! Keep up the great work Gripper Sim!

[@dtrjones]

Fantastic video Gripper Sim, love your style with this video and the IRL insight was excellent! The JF PA-28R looks amazing as well.

[@GripperSim]

Glad you enjoyed it David!

[@tonyjames2430]

Dude, I REALLY enjoyed that video. I've had a crap day, and you just made me smile so much. Good Showcase too, you did things no one else has done (tail strike etc) Thanks.

[@johng1256]

Thank you for an excellent video Gripper,glad to see you referred to Microsoft Flightsim as a hobby and not a game as so many do.

[@RedSailor1701]

We're in the cockPIT, and this is my FACE! ahaha, that had me chuckling

[@GripperSim]

Ha haa!

[@quecksilber457]

@@GripperSim To be honest, now i am hoping there will be a version of the good old Piper with a picture of you somewhere in the EFB. lol

[@wurzzzz]

Also a P28R instructor here. Thanks for the thorough review. I was pretty impressed by JF. I was expecting more mediocre quality from past experience.

[@Dreamsofwings]

What a great video, love your narration and very informative too!

[@GripperSim]

Glad you liked it!

[@jimmybuffettband]

Excellent review mate....you're the most entertaining flight sim reviewer online. Keep up the good work.

[@jimfrederich8852]

Another excellent review! You sold me. Thanks 😊

[@GripperSim]

Glad I could help!

[@timdouglas2011]

Boy she really is lovely, I've only every flown the non complex PA-28 but inside is SOOOOOO accurate!

[@twotonemurphy]

Fantastic review and great to get your perspective on it! Great work dude

[@GripperSim]

Glad you enjoyed it twotone! : )

[@BlazinMonk]

Can't wait for release!

[@jaheemfingal7475]

Carenado just released their PA28

[@BlazinMonk]

@@jaheemfingal7475 I avoid Caranedo at all costs. The 182 flies like crap

[@BritishAvgeek]

I've been really impressed with this too! Good to see you loved it too!

[@FlyBendy]

Nice one Gripper! Lovely to see the PA28

[@GripperSim]

Many thanks Brian!

[@craig8727]

Great to hear the opinion of a CFI, sold me, I'll be buying this for sure

[@MicahMesser]

Did my training in a PA-28-161 and have been really looking forward to this aircraft! Going to give it a whirl in one of my streams soon!

[@GripperSim]

Nice!

[@MicahMesser]

@@GripperSim doing my high performance endorsement currently but it's in a 182...boy is a Cessna different

[@victorcroker2765]

Great Vid Gripper Sim. I was waiting for a review of this aircraft, as I really didn't want to buy the Carenado version. And your right, some of the aircraft in MSFS2020 have :"Neutral Static Stability" and stay almost stuck in the bank angle that you put it in. Guess it could be worse, like Negative Static Stability. Anyway, thanks for helping me decide on the JF PA--28R. Keep up the great work!

[@GripperSim]

Hope you enjoy it Victor!

[@ThePjKearney]

Fantastic review GripperSim, I was leaning towords the Carenado Piper due to the price difference but now I'll wait and put this on my wishlist

[@GripperSim]

Great! I'm happy with the just flight, very much so, I'll be trying the Carenado next. : )

[@glennog]

Oh it makes such a change to see an experienced Piper pilot review this. I've been watching them all and this is by far the most informative. New sub incoming :)

[@CalsFlyingMachines]

This might be the best addon overview I've ever seen on YT.

[@stephengoad6886]

Another great video. I’m certainly going to add this to my collection when it’s released.

[@georgesiebes]

Gripp and Bob, lol at the end. Who knew the life of a Tuber is so hard? Thanks, great Video.

[@rolandgardiner3059]

Thanks Gripper, great review! Will want to purchase this on release.

[@sascenturion]

Nice preview and great video again! Thanks Gripper ,although i think you have underrated the quality of the work Just Flight have done here ..i think the interior is superb, one of the most detailed cockpits in ANY flight sim ive seen. Including the Amp gauge jumping when you flick a switch etc etc .. Love your outtakes and humour! Thanks again! In regards to the microphone specifically. Did you walk around the rear of the aircraft with the engine running? ..listen to the mic and the wind. The corporatepilotdad's channel does a cool demo/ review of that. Anyway thanks again!

[@GripperSim]

Hi Centurion! It is brilliant! I'll be having it back on the show again for more!

[@sascenturion]

@@GripperSim cool .. looking forward to it ! :)

[@sksupply]

Was my favorite in FSX and will be Flight 2020. Just a joy to fly. Good review and they have the tail strike sound down pat as well.

[@GripperSim]

There are some great details in there Schteve! Thanks for commenting!

[@dtotheatothevtothee]

Great review as usual. Thanks for your insights.

[@BrianMonette]

Two things I’ve noticed. One is that the attitude indicator shouldn’t stabilize when you turn on the master switch since the gyro inside is vacuum powered and not electric. It should stabilize after engine start and vacuum power is achieved. Second it doesn’t simulate the constant speed propeller very well. I’m sure as a CFI you know that when you bring the throttle lever back from full power the propeller RPM remains the same for a while. Other than that I think it’s a really fantastic product. I already own it and I love it. Great review.

[@matthewbrereton2617]

Lmao Gripper. That look at end was priceless!!!!!. I just hope I can finish work in time to catch you on Twitch this Sunday. Always love following you, one of my highlights mate. Yeah I know I need to get out more 😂

[@Snowy57]

Thank you very much. You have convinced me. I’m getting it!

[@TomGordonUK]

Huzzah! They've just added interactive checklists in a software update. I've been in sim and it seems to work fairly well (though it doesn't tell you the location of some of the switches).

[@GripperSim]

Hi Tom, Hopefully they will update it, I asked them about it. It will happen. : )

[@michael2782]

I was introduced to your channel by Aus Flight Sim, thought that was really nice. I flew my 78' Arrow III for almost 3,000 hours and am really impressed how authentic this sim is. I was waiting for a "real" review as the FS2020 flights around the patch don't say squat. Two questions - do you need the external rudder pedals to apply differential braking and if not how do use just one brake for slow speed directional control. First time viewer and new subscriber 😁✈👍

[@canconservative8976]

Rudder Pedals are a must....diff braking and of course Yaw control....right rudder....

[@michael2782]

@@canconservative8976 Thanks, figured that as making a 180 degree turn took around a block.

[@canconservative8976]

@@michael2782 haha yes... jam one brake and give it 2000 rpm she should spin tight,, that would be a good test.

[@mdhazeldine]

Great review. Not a pilot but have flown as a passenger and had a little go on the controls of a friend's PA-28. I also had the JF Arrow for FSX and flew it loads about 15 years ago. This seems like a HUGE step up in every way, but yeah, it does seem a bit odd how it just starts rolling really easily. I hope MS/Asobo will sort that out. I'm also surprised you were able to land that harshly without your gear being completely destroyed! Can't imagine the gear would survive that in real life.

[@Jigsaw407]

Looks like A2A is finally getting some serious competition in the GA department. I'm impressed! JustFlight have come a long way since the FSX days. I had some JustFlight aircraft back then that I didn't use much, because they were such a let down. This PA-28 is an enormous improvement. Very nice (p)review too, thanks. I think I will use this aircraft to continue my World Tour that I started with the A2A Comanche on FSX and P3D. Time to retire the default C172 for that trip. ;)

[@dabneyoffermein595]

wow, didn't know that about JustFlight, that's pretty disappointing to know about the let down back in the day, ugh. Glad they have improved but that gives me hesitancy about their products.

[@Jigsaw407]

@@dabneyoffermein595 Not to worry. I purchased the Just Flight Piper Arrow for MSFS and it's really awesome. Almost at A2A level. There are a couple of issues, but I'm sure they will be sorted out soon enough.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@Jigsaw407 ive had a few A2A FSX planes (about 8 to 10) The Texan, a float plane (cant remember the model but it might be a Twin Otter) and many others and they were top notch

[@Jigsaw407]

@@dabneyoffermein595 Yes! The float plane was a Piper Cub. I believe the only decent Twin Otter came from Aerosoft. Anyway, I can't wait for the first A2A aircraft to make their appearance in MSFS. The Aerostar looks awesome and I hope for some classics to return as well.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@Jigsaw407 I won them in a live-stream drawing and they were all on A2A's website (A streamer with a purple hat named Bel-Geode was involved in the giveaway), perhaps they sold other dev's planes, it was a yellow plane with large controls on this overhead panel that controlled electrically deployed wing tip floats and rudder deployment, really cool and it was a challenge based episode thing, even narrated as I recall. I should find all those planes so i can find out what they were and see if they are going to make them (Aerosoft, A2A, etc.) going forward. I'll check out the Aerostar for sure!

[@evidenceplz]

Really loved the blooper reel at the end LOL

[@rayjennings3637]

Absolutely great review, which is what I'd expect from a professional, especially one who has hundreds of hours in the aircraft. Thankyou for taking the trouble with the recording, editing and uploading. It would be nice if they could have a couple of different interiors. I can't believe that every Arrow III was sold with a red interior!

[@razalom66]

Great video and information, Thanks mate!

[@UKPete]

Great review and especially interesting from an Instructor with hours on this plane. I must I have the Just Flight PA-28 Warrior for X-plane as I learnt to fly in that and was amazed by it.

[@MrJorvilla84]

Hey man. Good video, just wanted to add that the attitude indicator is vacuum driven thus should not erect when the battery comes on. Not sure if you noticed that.

[@pacoa.6598]

Excellent Review - thanks! What airfield is this?

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

Thanks for the review! man it looks and sounds great.

[@roberthatcher2773]

Great preview Grip thanks! Best plane for MSFS so far?

[@olddogg60]

A must buy I would say. 😊 The only thing that I saw had to do with the attitude gyro. That gyro is vacuum operated so it shouldn't erect until the engine is running (powering the vacuum pump).

[@johnbow72]

Fantastic video mate !! .

[@toml7465]

I didn't fly the Arrow unfortunately while it was still present in my flying club, but you provided a great (p)review. One can clearly tell you have done some instructing. I like your approach here and how you compare the irl situation with the shortcomings of the platform. And you convinced me to purchase this aircraft and to subscribe to your channel. Thanks!

[@rolandrabier5984]

I think I will wait for the accusimed study planes of A2A. I loved the Cherokee 180 so much.

[@SurfVR]

Lots of updates are out. This has just gotten a lot better. Just plain stupid to wait for A2A. You are missing out on the best plane for MSFS.

[@rolandrabier5984]

@@SurfVR I have it now. I agree this plane is very accurate, I am addicted to it. As a plane lover I cannot afford a plane licence, although I use to paraglide. Flying a Piper Arrow in a sim makes me feel good and relaxed.

[@SurfVR]

@@rolandrabier5984 I feel the exact same way. No PPL (not worth it IMO) but heavily invested in the sim world! Now enjoying a classic..

[@captainmoose3365]

Great review, I'm a big fan of the Arrow III, definitely buying it this when it comes out. Carenado just released their version of the PA28, I wonder how they compare. I'm pretty sure the JustFlight is superior, it seems quite detailed from what you have shown. Thanks for that.

[@ExperimentalSimAvionics]

Some of the Carenado’s are shocking. In my experience you really have to do your homework. Some are ok. Like you I doubt it would be as good as the JF but I suppose you never know until the word gets out.

[@johnnyc.763]

JF is a big company. just like Carenado, I've used both and found that JF adds just a bit more nifty gizmos with menus for things like logbooks, calculators and plane states, but in a way kind of the same features across their products like Carenado- I've only used JF in XP11 though.. JF does seem to up the game a bit though for this Arrow. However, I DO like how Carenado created the 2000 version of the New Piper aircraft vs. this 1980ish version.

[@GripperSim]

Hi Captain Moose! Ye I'll be having a look at the Carenado one also. Thanks for commenting as always!

[@The1PatSmith]

Super, Gripper, thank you. You convinced me this is worth a "cash splash". ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 😊

[@marcdraco2189]

Ditto! I can't wait but I need some rudder pedals - my home-made failed badly (won't centre properly)!

[@robertpelland5649]

@@marcdraco2189 Marc, Not that it's any of my business, but if you want real immersion, don't settle for spring loaded pedals that center automatically. Real aircraft don't have centering springs, they are free floating,

[@marcdraco2189]

@@robertpelland5649 Really? Thank you so much Robert - I had no idea (I'm a couch pilot) and of course it's your business! Positive and informative comments are ALWAYS welcome. Even if I make a mistake (which happens) I detest it when people just use is as leverage. So thank you that's restored my faith in my design somewhat, I guess they just need some weight now as they are quite freely moving and that wouldn't be reflected in a real aircraft. (What I secretly want to do is nip to Ireland and have an hour with Gripper!)

[@GripperSim]

ye Patrick, I think its worth it for sure! Thanks for commenting!

[@larrysouthern5098]

Great video very realistic!!!! I learned to fly in piper airplanes..Cherokee 140 and Warrior..later switched to Cessnas...no problem!!!🐦

[@DeepFuture]

Oh grippersim you crack me up . lol . Love the end

[@GripperSim]

Glad you enjoyed

[@oisinkenny1]

Great video as always! I missed some outside view 4k eye candy though, that would have been nice. Maybe in the next video? Thanks Gripper :) (Bunkertitan)

[@GripperSim]

Next time!

[@Squirel]

It's certainly a fun plane to fly, I like it very much. Incidentally, the you can drag the sun visors to any position you want. I've never seen this before, it's only ever been fully up or fully down. Even this small feature adds realism on those sunny landings or departures.

[@pto200]

Great review as always. What video editor do you use. I like the magnifier circles. Wondered how you did that.

[@russellharris5072]

I have a short attention span,so what I've been doing recently is to find an airport/strip near a POI ans set the POI as my arrival.Fly there with a STOL aircraft,land as close to it as possible and switch off.Then do a drone tour and take off back to the starting point,endof and great fun........................

[@GripperSim]

Good stuff!

[@spybreak23]

Amazing content, thank you!

[@MegaPeedee]

Excellent review. Thank you.

[@waltersbg]

I am not a pilot. The closest I've ever gotten to flying lessons was 40+ years ago when I was often the passenger in the rented Cessna while my newly licensed friend would get his hours toward various certifications. As for flight sims, I really only got into it seriously when MSFS 2020 came out. I play it as a way to relax and see scenery. I never start cold and dark and I rarely do the research to determine the proper speeds and stuff. This add on may change that. For the first time, I want to treat the sim more like a sim and do things the right way. There's not much motivation to try to be realistic if the plane itself is not complete and/or not realistic. With this one, I would really feel like I had learned something (like I've already learned that it does indeed drop like a rock on approach if the power is low!). I still don't want to pursue my PPL, but I am more motivated by this plane to try to be a better sim pilot! Thanks for the review.

[@donc9751]

Great review! I have watched this after already owning all of the Just Flight models for MSFS and I have to say I love flying these Arrow's , my fav is the turbo naturally. I like to use the copilot Mines a female) to handle all my radio calls lol I'm lazy but she's happy to do it.

[@cdrsilk]

Great review... you helped me select this version of the Arrow. The immersion in VR is great.... I earned my commercial in ‘69 Arrow. Unfortunate bug however - switches don’t show movement unless “clicked” directly by mouse. Yoke & throttle switches work but their actions are not reflected in sim. JustFlight says “We are currently aware of this issue and looking into it. Unfortunately, I cannot say how long this will take. Once we have a fix for it you will be notified by way of an update email.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Based on your review this gets an 8/10. Hopefully they will fix the shortcomings and I think they've been known to correct things pretty quickly.

[@laurence1654]

Great review. JustFlight should give you a commission from the sale they've just got from me.

[@capsilver85]

Great video, looks like a very nice aircraft.

[@SIMCFI]

Most realistic PA28. There it is. A2A get yours in MSFS! Great review. Flew these for too long getting my CFI.

[@StainlessRocky]

PA2aish!!! please!

[@JenniferinIllinois]

This, is, definitely going in my 'to buy' list.

[@GripperSim]

It is a great buy for your collection for sure!

[@JenniferinIllinois]

@@GripperSim I've held off on buying the Carenado one. I know Carenado can be a bit contentious around the flight sim community but I do enjoy their offerings. However, this version of the Arrow just has something a bit more that's interesting to me (that 'beat up' look, Garmin options).

[@ronholfly]

Great review, thank you. I'm sure this is going to be a popular buy from Just Flight after watching your video.

[@flyhalf2]

Ah Bantry. I have friends in Skibereen and Bantry is the nearest airstrip. I achieved my PPL at EGGP and had hoped to fly to Bantry to see those friends but money didn't allow that to happen. I did, however, make the flight in FSX in Justflight's traumahawk

[@BluGames]

Great look!

[@marcdraco2189]

Everything in modern games is PBR (physically based rendering) these days. All the big 3D engines (Unreal comes to mind) use it. It's what gives us those lovely reflections and so on. It's not quite what they use in the movies though, they use ray-tracing which actually simulates the light as it moves through a scene. The latest GeForce cards (such as the one our lovely Gripper has) can do ray-tracing in real-time but as of yet it's only a single bounce. Raytracing is incredibly mathematically intensive so PBR simulates a lot of things using clever tricks such as "measuring" the angle and proximity of surfaces to produce affects like ambient occlusion which most of us don't notice - unless it's not there and then things just look "off". It is an exquisite paint job though, regardless.

[@GripperSim]

Fantastic inside Marc! Thanks for commenting. : )

[@marcdraco2189]

@@GripperSim I said to them (in all seriously Gripper) that you should get a free copy of the full version. It's no loss to them in real terms and your word is enough for at least two of us here (and likely many more) to not only be aware of it - free advertising - but be so impressed by your detailed and unabashed review, that we're willing to part with hard-saved cash!

[@jardine1able]

Hi Gripper, yet again another great video. You were making comparisons between the P-28 Sim version and the real thing, would you consider doing a complete set of tutorials on the PPL(gaining a private pilot license) as you are a qualified instructor.It would be great to be taken from the bare beginning rihjt through to achieving the license. ... Bob ,I have to say freeks me out slightly Look after yourself and thank you very much for another great vid, Mike

[@GripperSim]

Hay jardine1abl, as I'm so late replying to your comment, I did kind of a set of tutorials on PPL style training in the sim. Have a look at the Tutorial Playlist. I think I remember you commenting on this before. Are the ones in the playlist what you where thinking? Anyway, I have a list of videos to do, and a PPL style white board ground school is on it. Thanks for the suggestion, let me know. : )

[@malloyneil40]

That is so true. One of my first flights in an Arrow I forgot to pull the nose wheel chalk. I pulled the newb move lol. Excellent first impressions video. Hopefully in time we get some good left turning tendency and the nose swing while rounding out and dropping power. Is the Altimeter in Hg or Millibars?

[@andrewstraatsma3136]

Awesome aircraft and video, thank you so much, it this the turbo version?

[@GripperSim]

No the turbo version is next. Thanks for commenting : )

[@TacticalSandals]

The problem with the taxing I think is that it Idles at 1300RPM, I've only flown two Arrows in the past (never a iii) but the RPM was generally around 800, which sounds like it would be more in line and not cause you the plane to taxi at 35knotts. I imagine I am wearing these brakes out super fast with the amount I have to use them during my normal taxiing. Loading the fuel and passenger/cargo weight to 100% slows her down a little on the ground but it does not seem like a fantastic fix since it sort of messes with your CG a bit.

[@waltersbg]

There copilot looks great in VR, no complaints about that. But there is a bug in that feature. The copilot that shows up next to you is the PILOT model that you have selected in the MSFS options. So, if you look from an external camera, you will see the copilot you expect but as you get closer or go inside, it will switch to JustFlight's version of your copilot, which will be what was your pilot! Hopefully fixed soon.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Love the outtakes. As a fellow youtuber I can relate 🤣👍

[@GripperSim]

Glad you like them VR!

[@Radiomate]

Love this video! Subscribed 👍

[@melito1955]

Gracias desde Bogota..

[@arcangelkq]

Hi everyone, another great preview from Gripper. Did i hear you say that you can use SkyDemon on that surface pad on the right. would be great if that was the case and in VR as well. Keep up the great videos.

[@BostonClipper]

Nice aircraft except... it needs a Gripper Sim livery! Great review. It would be nice someday to be able to place an iPad (window/yoke, portrait/landscape) and have it page documents like aircraft setup, Navigraph, Custom PDF checklists. BTW the TBM930 Improvement Mod can display pilot and copilot.

[@GripperSim]

That would be cool!

[@canconservative8976]

Great review....

[@GripperSim]

Thanks!

[@marshall1864]

Be sure to relay your flight dynamics observations, in re positive-vs-neutral stability and taxi friction/momentum, back to JustFlight. It looks like the only flies in the ointment. I've got a control loading yoke tuned to a real PA-28, so we lucky few actually do notice flight model improvements. Of course, you luckier few get to fly the real thing regularly.

[@GripperSim]

Sound great Winging it!

[@SkitBit]

Great review mate! Will be on my shopping list. Had this for Xplane11 and was excellent!

[@GripperSim]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@iansouthward4003]

This is still the Beta version though isnt it? so the sounds and other bits should be spot on when the full version comes out - I cant wait for it as Ive seen the Carenado version and this looks a whole load better....

[@ConnorEllisMusic]

PBR is now the standard for photorealistic games. Not just films.

[@hpharold23]

Great job!

[@StefBelgium]

The xplane version with REP is better in terms of flight dynamic though. The interior and sound are better in MSFS2020. Thanks for the review!

[@GripperSim]

I agree with you SR, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. : )

[@conlethbyrne4809]

I agree completely with sound is just as important as visual. Do you mean in the sense of headphones or would suggest headphones? If so what do you recommend, Gripper please answer when you have the time buddy. I love the video & the heads-up no pun intended. LOL

[@GripperSim]

I actually prefer the sound coming from the TV. Headphones block you from the world and can be uncomfortable after a while. I use a steelseries for streaming. : )

[@MrYungilike]

great showcase, man, appreciate your sharing as an experienced pilot on this aircraft. Kinda looking forward to a non-complex piper from them 'cause I don't really know if I can find and memorize those data... like what kind of manifold pressure or RPM should be used during initial climb, and cruise, or cruise climb... those things. I know it's only a simulator but the data still bothers me which I think I have memorize and operate this thing according to them. So... what's your suggestion as a professional, a real-life flight instructor in this case?

[@pocketedition2348]

Ha ha,, it's normans nephew. Aye thanks for the review Mr Gripp.

[@GripperSim]

Any time!

[@lucasd3658]

Asobo should watch your videos😂

[@Spartan536]

@Gripper Sim, I have 30 hours in a C172, going to solo soon and then change my flight school. However I have made a mistake IRL that was very embarrassing, I forgot to remove the front chock after doing all of my checks and preps. To people with no real flight experience, this is equivalent to leaving all of your stuff on the roof of your car as you try to drive away, and then you realize you left your stuff on the roof after it all falls off the car, and you are doing this near a bunch of random people.

[@GripperSim]

Everyone does it at some point spartan, I wouldn't worry about that. : )

[@Spartan536]

@@GripperSim Yeah, so I have been told, but its still a walk of shame :P

[@zakkhuitema3748]

"we dont have smell-vision yet" and pause for laughter.......and continue

[@szd22c54]

Great aircraft, but why the artifical horizon starts to work when battery master is on but engine is not working? I think that the artifical horizon is vacuum driven, only turn coordinator has electrical source of power.

[@lee4318]

I like this Dude! YES! best preview so far. Its a sub from me.

[@j3gm0194]

Thanks for the fantastic review! Question: Can this aircraft be considered to fill the gap for serious IFR training until MSFS fixes its G1000 etc? How do the G430/530 perform compared to real life? For the very important haptic feeling - is Realsimgear G430/530 hardware supported? I do not want to purchase and be disappointed about yet another non-IFR capable aircraft

[@itellzzz]

Will the lancaster bomber be coming to msfs 2020