mercedes G VS land rover defender 110 - Valdisere

[@johnaden7473]

We had a Land Rover- sold it because it was always in the shop Broken that- leaking this- electronics not working right- Bad sensors- got rid of it right after the warranty expired Have had a G class Mercedes since Only 1 issue - 1 bad spark plug Otherwise just oil changes and brake pads and usual service Now 10 years old-347,108 miles runs great to this day We take it off-road monthly in the desert of CA- no freeway baby miles- No driveway Queen- She was up to her steps in mud two weeks ago and did great! Sold On Benz!

[@jonathanwills94]

Landrover iv been using them for years and they have been tough as old boots reliable and go anywhere.. Nuff said

[@JCO2002]

I live in Jamaica and have a 94 Discovery 1, 200tdi, which I love. I don't play games with it like these guys, though. It's a work vehicle, not a toy. Can't afford to destroy it by being foolish.

[@VishnuRajam4x4]

I seriously did not think that anything could have made it up that slope. Unbelievable. Lockers for the win.

[@Backs4more]

The Landy has raised suspension which as you can see, is a major hindrence to it climbing. Also has bead lockers to stop tyres being torn off..but neither modification helps with the climbing.

[@arfenmalik1717]

Would love that old school Mercedes G Wagon, looks really good and packs lots of power for offroad trips

[@dimosk7389]

legend has it, that the rest of the off roaders are sitting around the fire at night and tell stories of the legendary adventures of the G-class and the Defender, jealous that they can't even come close

[@alexwambua6033]

not even in a million years to come

[@KoDeMondo]

Ahahah no way!

[@drueskillz]

Lmfao.... Yeah right

[@drueskillz]

Jeep will kick its ass all day.

[@ethelburga]

@@drueskillz Jeep is good on mud because of the light weight, as is the Jimny. Defender is in a class of its own because of chassis, axles and brutal torque curve of diesel engines..

[@27tcar]

i would have to say the defender is the best simply because of the alluminium body and it being simple and cheap to fix compaired to the merc, although both are great 4x4's

[@oldcargeezer]

Both great 4x4's Defender is a third the price of a G-Wagon though which makes it a bargain, in relative terms.

[@DiegoHernandezLikesBikes]

I own an AMG. Agree with your statement. That said, the same came be said for the US Jeep Wrangler

[@sbarounis100]

The SUZUKI JIMNY at a third of the cost of the cheaper of these two vehicles, would put them both to shame!kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXaViGxpe6eXpZo

[@kikosanchez3435]

While the low-end gearing is there on both of these two SUV's, it all boils down to tires, tires, and tires (type of tires and the right pressure for them in tackling such)

[@ethelburga]

It boils down to ground clearance, diff locks and the skill of the driver. And tyres.

[@Retro-Future-Land]

@Schwanzus Longus The G isn't better in all of these, it is a match at best.

[@AbChabni]

it's about the driver skills not the car! both are awesome legendary cars

[@harryeverett2152]

+Adam Chabni but defender is better...

[@TheLizard-oe3cy]

Adam Chabni what drive skill?to go just with acceleration?

[@torbendk2777]

Adam Chabni yes it's all about, driver skills, car preformens and tires

[@brettdemauna9994]

Adam Chabni. Basically those tires seemed over pressurized they need minimal air pressure than their normal pressure. In doing so It'd improve wider tire footprint for better grip and will also reduce vehicles bouncing uncontrollably. BTW Nice video. "Land Rover!"

[@user-ij9il3kp9s]

Yaaa but to some extent car too

[@bigleemac]

Defenders just defy gravity!

[@BazColne]

That was a tough test! I didn't think either would make it.

[@angelissimaindependentlond238]

The old Landrover costs 50K less with at least 300 less HP and still got up with less fuss

[@DarkPassenger610]

My thoughts!

[@thelandrovermaniac5334]

@Leonidis78 its not its been painted like that

[@thelandrovermaniac5334]

@Leonidis78 i know that i have 4 personal cars nvm the ones my dad has for the business

[@kaan5249]

@Nicolás Löwy defenders dont break, range rovers do.

[@jamiewhite1515]

I own both the Mercedes is much more comfortable but the defender has a coolness factor

[@Fix84]

BELLA GRIS E SULTANO! me lo ricordo bene quel passaggio! Mitici!

[@AhdelEssam]

not just the tires, the lifted clearance raises center of gravity, so i believe a non modified vehicle of the same types could have made it easier, with only proper "not over sized" tires

[@InDaBurbs]

Yeah, all g wagens come with a suspension lift and 33 inch tires. I think I saw that one at the mall yesterday. I'd happily take either of them.

[@watannen]

@ZionW0lf That's one of the things that i was saying. The G has a more powerful engine and i think the driver stepped on it a bit too hard and that is why it lost traction and spun its wheels instead of getting up the first time just as the Defender did.

[@syncmaster710n14]

Nice, i would love to Take my series 3 Landy there.

[@anguscopland148]

Didn't attempt THAT one, but I have been round the course set out at the 4x4 show, in 1999/2000, driving..., a Nissan Terrano.

[@cageordie]

@watannen What you need to look at is the torque curve, Landies tend to have better low down torque but it drops off at higher revs, so if you spin a wheel it loses torque. The G has a higher torque peak, so when it starts spinning it gets worse. In this case the Defender got over in less tries, but I don't claim that's a definitive test. But then there's the cost, a Defender can be had in most cases for the cost of servicing the G (slight exaggeration), well maybe servicing and tires.

[@danigwerder]

if you want a modified mercedes g: the swiss armed forced will sell all of them (about 20'000 i think). very good stuff, i was driving one as i was in the army.

[@oldcargeezer]

Both trucks make it to the top of the obstacle, but the Land Rover does it with less fuss, and on the second attempt. Also the Land Rover looks like it has raised suspension, which will not help on a hill like this, as it raises the centre of gravity.

[@djrdm2755]

Lotusdriver but it still beat the g wagen and didnt need a run up

[@ZionW0lf]

@watannen the Def. is bouncy cos it has HUGE lift competition springs on it and a tilt axel set up. alsonote how much easier it got up the hill in the first place. It may not have the most powerful engine, but landrover have done such an amazing job at transfering the power to the wheels, with the low range gearbox engaged it has no trouble gettin up there x

[@rtyees]

@ZoracYTManager Engine size/power isn't entirely immaterial, esp on hills. "Power hill" isn't just an American concept. More torque would allow the use of a higher gear (low 2nd/3rd) which would help suppress wheelspin on the ascent. A 500cc engine would have to be geared so low that there'd be "zilch" energy/momentum & traction would be lost pretty much @ the base

[@RandomInternetDog]

Judging by your videos, you're actually not as far away as you could be. Not that far at all relatively speaking, but right now I'm trying to start a career. I've got street tires on my truck right now, being unemployed I can't afford gas getting that far north much less a repair if my rover decided to break. I've got a pipe dream of sticking a Defender body on that disco frame one day, maybe then. :P

[@polibermar]

they are two good tough guys, one in an "expensive suit and tie" and the other in "Street Clothes" to do the same job.

[@spidertoken]

Great driving guys.nice location too btw ;)

[@Apex_MZ3]

the G had better tires but shorter wheel base.the defender had sucky tires but had a little longer wheel base.the defender won because of that,great truck

[@redshaftedflicker]

that's hardcore gnarly no doubt about it. great drivin' boys!!!

[@FedericoLucchi]

''Se non vai su, la taglio! Non preoccuparti!'' Hahahaha! Grande!

[@deejayimm]

I finished the video and though, great, finally a video that not showing bias for or against something. Just 2 guys in 2 different off-roaders, having fun. Then I read the comments, and alot of people must have been watching a different video than me. They both won, because they both made it.

[@ELViGardens]

Early 90s defender rocks. Have nothing against it. I'd take it too as a buggy. I'm talking about new age LRs only.

[@2bornottoby]

@bastianfrom77, i agree, the comparison isnt fair, the g wagon has front and rear diff locks.

[@SaNkA0085]

And DEFENDER! wins again!

[@blibbax]

As ever, the difference is primarily in the driver and modifications made to the vehicles.

[@elvisrose]

In the Late 1970's when Persia (Iran) was ruled by the Shah he was the main share holder in Mercedes Benz, as there was a revolution in the making the shah wanted a reliable and versatile vehicle that was not only reliable and comfortable but one that could be easily adapted for military use and all the variations needed. Then in 1978 the G wagen was in production built by hand in Austria. You either love them or hate them ! Most people who have 4x4's don't even go off road so shouldn't comme

[@wt1236]

Land rover does it at a vast reduction of the cost of a Mercedes....Day in or Day out

[@Fergus-Collington]

Don't question the defender's victory. It is better

[@heiligerjesus1960]

Fergus 110 no, it was just the better driver. what does a defender have that a G doesnt have? then again a G has 3 diff locks and more power, a Defender doesnt

[@Fergus-Collington]

How about heritage, not to mention an original design 'cough

[@heiligerjesus1960]

Fergus 110 heritage? Thats a plus point for the G, it is hand made and still produced in austria, graz. And the design? A defender looks cool, but so does the g

[@buchersabine5898]

that defender wasnt even stock, the g was. also it had better tire pressure

[@viowave]

There is a reason why the Nazis lost the war. Such a shame a lot of British manufactures uses Nazi - well German - Tech today.

[@spiffcats]

Nice cars. I still prefer the chevy astro for offroading, but these look good to.

[@paulstefan357]

both are great off road cars but for me G classe is the best and the king off road ever and for me Mercedes is the best cars technicaly speak My opinion is like this : 1.G classe the best off road car ever see 2. S classe the best luxurious limousine ever made 3.Amg GT S, SLS AMG and SLR best supercars

[@johnnyclark4548]

😂😂 G wagon needed some serious run on Land Rover is still the king of the mountain, less run on, less ground erosion 💖💖

[@sarzamineiran]

@Johnycakee the G already has front, center and rear diff lockers

[@EugenioSena.official]

Great video 🚗

[@cpwillig]

NL land army: Mercedes, our Royal Navy: Land Rover 110 XD's: experience in the sandy dunes: marines in LR 110's: no problem running around (standard), Mercedes (loaded also) stuck mostly; after at least 2 wheel/ tire combinations + diff locks could do the same. Weight distribution is key: LR front axle remains about same load while vehicle is fully loaded; Mercedes LWBase: rear axle pos effectively increases front ax load: earlier stuck.

[@arnie2601]

although a landrover owner and fan, love the merc g wagon too. the defender dont sound like its got a tdi or td5 in it though. stunning scenery though.

[@mikegraham1282]

Sounds like a td5 to me alright

[@IgoRAZ12345]

awesome driving skills

[@thatsenoughreally4609]

regardless it is a pretty steep grade with some crag, you just cant get around how bad ass both of the vehicles look

[@kingstonban]

The land Rover defender is a better vehicle...it's also used by the British military and armed forces in Caribbean islands !

[@heiligerjesus1960]

bancroft groves of course its used in england its their car! g class is used in militaries all over the world while the defender isnt

[@thorstentrapp274]

Of course it is. This is what a Audi does to a Defender: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooW2lWOffr5_oqc In a G Wagon you wouldn't even notice you're pulling a Defender...even in the Caribbean Islands ;)

and no I'm not British but Land Rover is the god of 4x4's ;) that's a fact..

[@extremecrossover]

mercedes and landrover collaboration.. and its game over

[@defender3330]

The 110 drove down the G slid down

[@bere5de]

@Gris110 Based on this video, where do yo see the defender is better? Disregarding the fact that the defender is heavily modded too, maybe it's just the driver? No doubt that both cars are great offroaders, but price is no argument when you're out there

[@ZionW0lf]

@watannen yeh, the gearing is reallyhigh ratio aswell. But the fact stands that the landy obviously dosent need a more powerful engine cos its designed in this way. its much more efficient annd at least 4 times cheaper lol (as many have already said, u could buy 4 brand new def 90's for the same price as 1 G x

[@silvivlachkov5880]

it's no about the car... it's all about the driver !

[@ВОЛК-ц3к]

Silvi Vlachkov yeah right fuck g wagon fuck boy.

[@johnnywoodchip8227]

Silvi Vlachkov in this case the g wagons driver was shit scared

[@papanga1197]

Too bad for the G. The newer one stands a better chance if they we're to retake that again but still, Land Rover Defender has been around since 1960's (?) and yet it can still beat or match modern day cars. Go DEFENDER

[@koitorob]

+Vince Andrew Mahinan Not quite buddy... Series 1 1947 - 1958 Serie 2 1958 - 1961 Series 2A 1962 - 1971 Series 3 1971 - 1984 110/90 1983/1984 - 1990 Defender 1990 - 2015 sniff...sob...

[@papanga1197]

+Koito rob Sorry about that :/ thanks for getting my facts straight :)

[@eoinoshaughnessy7766]

The defender has hardly changed and will keep going forward even into when diesel and petrol engines are banned

[@fendtclaas8689]

My 1994 Nissan pathfinder would be able to do it. Although G-wagons are my favorite.

[@KaTooMaz]

nice rides...that obstacle is no doubt beyond the capabilities of my D2 or my willingness to force it ;)

[@Couldabean]

Right at the end the defender stalled?

[@MingGuoLi]

What grade was the climb?

[@zacrs4]

The lift on that G is perfect.

[@2pintsofcremedementh]

The Defender sounds amazing, what are you running? Also I know the Merc has factory axle lockers, have you fitted diff locks to the Landy or did it get up on open diffs?

[@MAPFWH]

G wagen has 3 diff locks as standard. Were they even being used?

[@dkphantomdk]

Even the defender does make it look more easy, it has alot to do with the tyres and driving style. The G-wagon would allways be my pick.

[@sachinerappa]

Where are you now Plz tell me

[@tonyalways7174]

I love everything about the G Wagon except the price.

[@mrtom2854]

Defender for life - the G63 6x6 is cool, but I could never own one, and it isn't as tough as a defender

[@AA-vr8ez]

Where is this?

[@alexkalua7817]

The legend of land rover...

[@pedrojulioramirezagradesid1210]

SOY, OBEDIENTE A LAS REGLAS Y DEBERES EN COMPORTAMIENTO.RECORDANDO EL RESPETO AL DERECHO AJENO. JURO RESPETAR SIEMPRE.

[@L110508]

I think the Landie does better because the G is over power, so difficult for the driver to control the wheel spin when hitting too much accelerator, while the landie driver just floor it and the power is just nice.

[@voxnaes]

Wonderful work, gentlemen!! :)

[@HomeCures]

Funny how those, like HG, who could never afford a good car, say stupid things! LR is voted the N° 1 car in the world by one or other of the comparison sites almost every year. The Merc - if like the oneI had is just fit for the scrapyard; and, it is not only the driver but 90% of the success is the tyres. The film shows the difference. The LR Traction control is the best in the world. Sorry HG

[@himalayanoffroaders8989]

Apart from the vehicles..great driving skill..cheers.

[@richthesaw]

@296jayce it is because people always compare things to the best. and the defender is the best there is in its class

[@zetoalgarve]

The Gwagen is a very heavy vessel...

[@Dansk55]

Driving capability really matters in hill climbs and torture tests. Unfortunately the G had a rusty one!

[@alfred7135]

Landy my favourate car!

[@ftdRaw]

Steep and a nasty hump, Good driving!

[@AdamAus85]

Italians? Filmed in Italy too? Beautiful landscape.

[@DominiqueB]

Val d'Isère is in the French Alps (not far from Italy, though, pretty much the same mountains :-)

[@Unitazy]

one of the best 4:20 videos!

[@ladislaumotelka7737]

Driver skills and tires. Same tires and same pilot. Than u have the power of the car

[@barrya.6212]

Both vehicles clearly have rear lockers correct? .... and was that stock on those......believe so....

[@henrydaniel3962]

Old Series Land Rover by looking at the door handles and still kicking modern day cars arses

[@chrisalford4587]

Military spec doors with old style handles and removable door tops/ sliding windows. Simplicity- no mechanism to break.

[@jomichael32]

Where is this place, it is absolutely beautiful. Awesome trucks too.

[@DominiqueB]

Val d'Isère is in the French Alps (not far from Italy, where these drivers seem to come from. :-)

[@Jin-Ro]

Never understood why Landy owners but hi-lift kits on. It does nothing for ground clearance, and moves the centre of gravity upwards, the opposite of what you want when offroading. It's a completely negative mod on that vehicle.

[@getplaning]

Both of these vehicles are top-heavy. Lift kits have their uses but alpine trails are not one of them.

[@hughmungus7570]

Wouldn't the altitude mess with the engines because the engines can't take in much air?

[@nukezzcraftingxx9726]

No not that low down

[@DefenderOnACrusade]

Land Rover walked it and on less knobby tyres! Keep the G for posing around town with your man bag, but let the Landy do the man's work.

[@heiligerjesus1960]

derk diggler it was the driver. what does a defender have that a G doesnt have?

[@NKarigar]

Lower Price!

[@heiligerjesus1960]

Nazir Karigar jesus christ all these people talking about g wagens being expensive. Ive bought an old 290GD for 7k and it is awesome. Now if i search for a landy same pricetag i get the same.

[@blackhat400]

@@heiligerjesus1960 . Style " , the G is an ugly mother ,and lucky it wasn"t a 90, its even better ,

[@robertoferraris9872]

Impressionante complimenti

[@covertops540]

@watannen yes, compare a G with 3in lift against a 110 with 8 inch lift... :facepalm:

[@roraev9296]

The G Wagon went first and knocked all of the loose rocks out of the way to make it easier for the Rover to climb up the hill with less slipage. Review the video with this in mind and see different results.

[@Пётр-г7ш7т]

Да я на своем Марк 2...здесь спокойно заеду))))Салам из Казахстана

[@ТёмноеПламя-ю6щ]

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[@Пётр-г7ш7т]

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[@ТёмноеПламя-ю6щ]

@@Пётр-г7ш7т 😁👍

[@bastianfrom77]

The comparison is not quite fair. The Landi had better tyres plus modified suspension. I think with the Landy-tyres the G would have gone up the hill the first time.

[@SMB67T]

The G is apparently much heavier than the Defender, hence unable to climb up the hills. If in other tests, the G will be better than the Defender, depending.

[@nedludd8633]

Anyone know how many degrees would that incline be ?

[@kevdefender6976]

ye but defenders killed more taliban

[@harryeverett2152]

+kev defender so true!! hahah

[@philipadastra]

+kev defender The G was blessed by the Pope.

[@harryeverett2152]

philip s who cares about the pope tho... whats he done for the world other than steal??

[@philipadastra]

+Harry Everett the current Pope is actually doing alot of good. but what do you know. BTW I'm not religious I just said it as a joke.

[@harryeverett2152]

philip s yeah haha i was saying it as a joke too man

[@Watsupwiya]

Love to see an 80k Range Rover pick it's way up there on full auto, driver steer only, would it ?

[@tevitaphillips3196]

not without a good set of tyres

[@heiligerjesus1960]

Richard Leaver Range Rover, really? it would fall apart before it even arrived there

[@swampfox1953]

Richard Leaver I hate to disappoint you but I have personally experienced a climb in a Range Rover Sport that was just as difficult. Put a good set of off-road tires on a Range Rover and it will go anywhere either of these two can go. The only people that deny that fact are people that don't know Land Rover very well. I have been off-roading with both and can tell you the stock Range Rover is probably actually more capable when compared to a stock Defender mainly due to it's superior traction control system.

[@heiligerjesus1960]

swampfox1953 maybe but still these new SUVs arent able to handle really hard terrain, ehile these two are

[@Watsupwiya]

Don't worry, wasn't knocking a Rangy Swampfox, If you look at my channel you'll see the wife has a Freelander 2 HSE, superb machine !, what I meant was, I'd just like to see an 80k Rangy turn up at that moment and take the piss out of every thing else trying to climb that, we both know you could put two of it's wheels on ice on that slope and it would probably still pick it's way up. We went on the Land Rover day out near Skipton, North Yorks when we got the Freelander, they put me on a slope with both it's passenger side wheels on rollers then they said set off again, after a second or two it figured there was something a miss down one side and put all it's power to the drivers side wheels and simply climbed the rest of the hill, stock Landy with stock tyres

[@bastianfrom77]

@2bornottoby My new opinion is (you should nevver stop to leanr): the G has the better AWD-System (Permament+three lockers+2nd transmission) - the landy is the same except for the lockers (only mid-diff lock). The landy usually has the better offroad-suspension keeping all wheels perfectly on the ground for a long time, while the G-Suspension is much stiffer. In this vid you compared a G500 with a V8 to landy with 2.x engine - so the G is MUCH heavier. i'd prefer a G270 instead

[@danebrewer10]

@bastianfrom77 suspension set up here makes no difference, articulation is only beneficial climbing over rocks and elephants footsteps to my eyes, the G classes tires were much more agressive. personally I'd think that tall tires and raised suspension on stuff as steep as that looks like it makes it more dangerous as you're gonna be bouncing about much more. seeing as he G has diff loks all round, it should have wooped the Landy, but I guess it's just much heavier.