Grouting Tile: With a Pre Mixed Grout

[@andywagoner4869]

I came for the grout and left with life lessons. Thank you.

[@ThatTileChick]

😁😁😁

[@973lq]

I watched a bunch of grouting videos before tackling my shower. Not one of the ones I watched said "if you're using ready mixed grout, you need a different method". I learned the hard way that it doesn't spread easily, and does not come off easily. I took a break mid way through a short wall and looked up ready mixed grout videos because I had that nagging feeling something was off. You could have heard me curse and jump out of the chair almost flinging my coffee when you said "whatever you do, don't let it dry"...yep...Anyway...that was one wall and I learned the hard way, but now I'm ready to tackle the rest the right way :) Thank you for your video!!

[@ThatTileChick]

You're very welcome, unfortunately the hard way is the way most people learn, I've been there myself!

[@ny-lw7mm]

Thank you for mentioning that!!

[@hippiemamanursery]

I specifically looked up "grout tutorials done by women" I'm so incredibly glad that I did as exactly what I suspected happened...you explain it so clear and with just enough details and explanation... perfect. Thank you so much for making this.

[@ThatTileChick]

You're very welcome! I'm glad I was able to help you on your tiling journey

[@fiftyonef1]

Thanks for your great videos. I was a tile setter with Brick layers and Allied Craftsman for 20 years. I've been out of the business for 30 years though. Just did a laundry room floor in my house using products that weren't available 20 - 30 years ago. Used Ditra Ultra (oh man that eats the thinset). Now switching to pre mixed grout based on this one. I'm learning new products and techniques from your videos. Thanks!

[@andrewadkins9444]

I just got schooled. Thank you! I'm using Spectralock 1 tomorrow, wanted to get some knowledge. THANK YOU FOR SHARING

[@ThatTileChick]

You're very welcome!!

[@alanberndt4900]

I’ve been doing this over 20 years….just gotta say I agree with everything you say, great video. I’m impressed with your videos, your craftsmanship and attitude. I liked hearing you say that your always learning, great mindset and needed with new products coming out. Thanks and happy grouting!

[@ThatTileChick]

Thanks for watching Alan!

[@aws5409]

Your Cool, have ? Can you silicone and then add the the smoky grey caulk afterwards kind of the double whammy effect, I use Dynaflex 230 something I learned from another you tube tiler/carpentar, just finished cleaning and ready to grout and I use the premix hate getting dirty lol, keep up the videos much appreciated!!!

[@landbaronusainc5667]

Thanks for the tip about silicone in the corners. I have done three DYI showers and never heard that.

[@philesq]

I watched several videos about using spectralock 1 and your video is the best I've seen

[@marwray1]

Well done Schannon. I like your work ethic. Work a small area at a time. Keep everything clean and think the problems through in a methodical manner. 👍🏻✌🏻🍷🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@johnburns2940]

Thank you very much ! I feel confident now to use a premixed grout. Just a caveat: NOT all green scrub pads are the same! Some are impregnated with a grit which will definitely scratch your Shiney tiles. Choose Carefully, or use a white scrub pad. Respect 👊

[@RafaelTileWorks]

Two buckets is a really good idea. I have been doing it for a while now. Saves a ton of time. Keeps things clean. Also yes, mixed grout is terrible now. Horrible color consistency, especially with darker colors. Pre-mixed is a pain to work with but I agree the color consistency alone is worth the trouble.

[@mariatorres9789]

I can't take anybody seriously, if they like premix better than hand mix. And that new nasty sets too fast FA Mapei is horrible. Our Lowes got rid of ALL regular grout, & every tile person up here in our rural area, can't use it & have destroyed their work. I literally drive an hour each way, just to get a good grout at Home Depot. Don't ruin your hard work, with shoddy new upgrade products, if they're just a nightmare. It's not worth it. I'll never use that Mapei FA again. Heck no 😅

[@Drunkcilla]

I’ve watched tons of video and yours is the ONLY one that is simple and sincere not from Ego but from a place of heart.Subscribed today !

[@ThatTileChick]

Thank you! I'm glad this video was able to help you!

[@jjwe2002]

You are the best for beginners, thanks for the great tips!

[@judyoffthewall]

I used bag mix grout today, I wanted to cry. It was such a dumb “baker” situation. The first time I tiled I used pre mixed, and it was a shit show, but overall outcome looked way better than todays grout mix bag. With your tips on using pre mix, I think it’ll go better next time I use pre mix. I learned a lot from your video that I definitley did not do that time.

[@kyletucker231]

Just wanted to say this video was awesome. I watched it like 5 times before grouting my backsplash with flexcolor cq. The only video I saw with the 2 bucket concept and you absolutely nailed it. I don't normally leave comments but had to say you rocked it with this one. Thank you! My backsplash came out perfect.

[@ThatTileChick]

Thanks Kyle glad that we could help you!

[@robjennings39]

Excellent video! Good communication, clear instructions. Very much appreciated the direct illustrations! Thanks very much for posting.

[@LauraDunmyer]

Thank you for this content! I just watched it before I did the grout in my powder room. The two buckets idea was a lifesaver!

[@tonyguarino3594]

Great video! Good breakdown of premix for people who are hesitant to use it

[@ThatTileChick]

Glad you liked it

[@inforestsweheal]

I just started doing a shower refresh... only removed some of the grout as there were sections that I couldn't get the mold out of. Otherwise the tile and grout is in good shape. I started with the premix and was frustrated with how much was not getting into the grout lines. None of the videos I watched used premixed grout so I presumed it was the grout that was problematic but now I see what the issue is... this was helpful and now I can go back and finish the job with your advice. thanks!

[@margaretbear]

Spectralock 1 is the BEST! Love that stuff.

[@ThatTileChick]

Agreed!

[@djerostim]

This is the most informative video I have seen you do, and I have probably watched about 30-40 of your videos. I also want to thank you for your humility in your "learning all the time" statement. Thank You Again

[@ThatTileChick]

Thank you Tim appreciate the support

[@whinny028]

This video helped me so much! I hired someone to do my bathroom...and 3 months later my grout is washing away and crumbling...now I am redoing it myself. The contractor blamed it on bad grout...not mixing it correctly was the problem!

[@lunargentleman3750]

Thanks for your insight, tackling this today.

[@ThatTileChick]

You're welcome! I hope your project went !

[@jeffdeluca1153]

Shannon thank you for the tips! My first time! Spectralock 1. And I used the short end of the float too! And.. your two bucket system worked great! ,zero haze . You throw k and I am subscribin! 😊 Jeff

[@zoesunday536]

Great video, Love your attention to the corner rules for silicone vs grouting!

[@ThatTileChick]

It's an important step a lot of people miss then wonder why their inside corners are cracking when filled with grout!

[@21gonza21]

That’s a neat sponge

[@stevieh129]

I’ve been watching loads of videos to find out what you should do with corners/change of planes and someone has finally made it clear! 👌👍

[@hello2Ugreatbigworld]

I like your TED talk.

[@zanreynolds1279]

Thank you - very informative for me - never grouted before.

[@francismaineri538]

Shannon, great instructional video especially your two bucket wash method. You've reinforced my decision on using Spectralock 1 for the grout. I'm converting a bath to shower and will be putting in at least one gran bar, do you have any insight or a video for the best way through a porcelain wall? Thanks

[@ChrisKonawel]

Thanks, I'm going to try this.

[@ThatTileChick]

Good luck!

[@dawncain514]

Thanks for the great demo! Your demo encouraged me to just do it already. I got my shower grouted and have NO grout haze thanks to your tips!!🥰

[@jasonkaminski6230]

Great info! I just used Mapei KeraColor and was unhappy with the variation in shades. Their picture-only instructions on the bag didn’t help much since they lacked any details about the process. Will go with the added cost of pre-mixed grout from now on.

[@ThatTileChick]

To me its worth the price of admission not having to worry about watering the grout out too much, color variations or bad batches of powder.

[@Matt-my7pz]

Beauty video. Well spoken. I have only used Flexcolour CQ for premix. Cleaning grout lines is brutal. Just cleaned floor to ceiling 4x8 tile in a shower base install... Death! I was decently tidy with the thinset but ugh.

[@brendawalker-cq4wt]

I would totally love to learn this trade in person by you! Women empowerment! Awesome stuff

[@Matt-my7pz]

I use the short side of the float too. I'm a big strong guy, but with that Flexcolour it falls of the float first of all and also won't flow into the lines. I want to make sure the grout lines are completely full.

[@Mo-Optics]

Wish i saw this prior to using Mepei Flexcolor CQ for a backslash install. The install was fine and the color consistency was great but cleaning was painful. I applied and cleaned in small areas every 2-3 minutes but the hazing was bad. Took me an extra 1-2 days just cleaning the haze left off the tiles and some countertop areas. Also, I think those sticky quartz beads in the grout scratched my glazed ceramic tiles - luckily its not easily noticeable. Does spectralite grout use abrasive materials that could scratch polished tiles?

[@moniqueschott5803]

Your adorable! 😂 Not in a weird way, 😜just watched your video because I am using the ready-made grout for the first time and am glad that I did because I wouldn’t have known to use a different method so thank you so much!

[@donaldrippetoe5246]

Really great video! I appreciate all the pro tips! Thank you for sharing your expertise!

[@taladiv3415]

11:38 strong point!

[@Haleh1]

Thanks for this video. I watched several tile videos and I liked yours the best.

[@valvejob4215]

Great video. great tips. very authentic attitude. subbed

[@airbnbacon]

Thanks for the video and tips.. am about to do my very first grouting job on a 3.5 sqft tiled area (yes, i tiled it myself) in front of our fireplace, and really needed the tips on how to grout with a pre-mix grout!! Much appreciated!

[@dwainhuff6149]

Thank you sister, your video was a big help to me.

[@ThatTileChick]

👌👌👌

[@elisadasilva3121]

Great video.. great morals I agree applies to all in life!

[@phil1pd]

I enjoyed your TED talk lol Tile and grout look great!

[@ThatTileChick]

Haha thank you! And thank you 👏🏻👏🏻

[@HamiltonTileGA]

Growing on me Tile Chick! thumbs up.

[@mikematuska6850]

It's a good grout, pretty ez to use

[@michaeltilburyiii2760]

I used mapei premixed for the first time the other day and didnt know about the haze not coming off so easy like regular grout, had to scrub all the tile. Wish I had seen this a few days earlier 😅

[@ThatTileChick]

We all have learned the hard way at some point =)

[@PeterYurkins]

ty for the video i am a fan of CQ use it often

[@ThatTileChick]

Mapei Flexcolor CQ is a great product as well!

[@Matt-my7pz]

That's all I have had access to in BC Canada. Latacrete isn't available around here sadly

[@PeterYurkins]

@@Matt-my7pz yea i think i am switching to Spectralock 1

[@Matt-my7pz]

@@PeterYurkins have you used them both? What's does spectalock have for qualities and compare to Flexcolour

[@colinnicols5387]

@@Matt-my7pz All laticrete products are available at Centanni tile in Burnaby

[@KeiPalace]

I wish I could say I had a choice, but I am finding contractors through the county to modify a bathroom for my disabled son and I've found after two contractors on the same bathroom, I'm not getting decent work.

[@DeanRamser]

Excellent advice. Thank you! I wish I had watched this before I grouted the white 12x24 shower tiles with Silicone ... it's a mess. I'm trying to cover my imperfect grout job.

[@ThatTileChick]

What brand did you use?

[@DeanRamser]

@@ThatTileChick I used (3) Grout Commercial 100% Silicone Sealant 381 Bright White. I am cleaning up the wavy white porcelain shower tile surface again. Then, I will use a plastic putty knife to smooth and level a new application of white Fast Dry Caulk Plus Silicone White. Since this is my first shower tile project I need all the help I can get. In the Master Bathroom floor I am putting in 8x8 encaustic tile, and your video on putting up this tile is very helpful! Thanks!

[@grousgrek6560]

Thanx great tips ! I’m going to use Mapei flex color cq premix for 1/8 joint 3x6 ceramic subway backsplash will it scratch my datile Home Depot tiles ?

[@Bapuji42]

@11:00 You're exactly right, plus nobody's going to call the original tile contractor back after 20 years, if they can even remember who it was. They're going to hire a handyman e.g. me.

[@UTPP]

Good video thanks, Question.... I grouted the other day and then noticed it had little airholes in the grout after it dried, not sure why. Can i just re-grout over the holes?

[@adolphbracht2351]

Great advice. Thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge

[@ThatTileChick]

My pleasure!

[@moneymakingmikeg.9555]

We're from Jersey... we don't pump our gas, we pump our fists!!! And... we move our hands A LOT when we talk LOL!!! Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. RESPECT for educating & sharing knowledge. That tile is really dope guys. Hoping all is well, Dirty Jersey out!!

[@LindseySteward]

Love your videos and I'm just learning how to tile. but also, I need to know where you get your shorts. Big Fan!

[@chelytrejo5146]

First time home owner with a need to regrout a shower here!! Can you use this on the shower floor as well?

[@michaeltylermedia]

This was such a great video-i just wish I had watched this prior to me attempting to regrout the shower this weekend! I had to take a razor blade to the tiles because I let it dry! Water doesn’t break through this very well does it? We had a shower leak years ago and had the shower regrouted. I went to patch some cracks this weekend and am hoping it holds well

[@kingdonbarrett3753]

I really appreciate you calling out the ANSI standard here. I have been watching these videos (how to grout your tile shower!) for a few months and it's never been clearer after watching any other video that the remodelers who did our house did not all know what they were doing. So I've got my grout saw... all my tools... I noticed that nobody who does this video is ever "patching over a failed seal on recently remodeled shower" - would you ever consider doing this, or should I be digging out all the crappy grout job and redoing the whole thing? What can I do with the spaces in the corner where the plane changes, they left at least a quarter inch space for grout and they're obviously too big to use a bead of silicone now? (Why didn't my home inspector catch any of this? Crooked realtor recommended a friendly rubber stamp inspector? Ever heard of a positive outcome in cases such as this, or am I on the hook for $20k remodel now?)

[@kingdonbarrett3753]

To be fair, we bought it 3 years ago and I don't know what I'm doing either but I'm not a contractor. They did not use any silicone in the entire shower other than around the water controls. We have big grout lines in the corner where every plane changes, they all are wearing out in the spaces that had the most exposure to water. We had a handy-guy friend come over and try to add silicone in the spaces where grout was used, but it was unsuccessful, the grout seal definitely failed and the grout absorbs any water that it touches. Lucky we have another shower in the house. We started to notice cracks within the first 6 months like you say. Thanks again for doing this video, and again I really appreciate calling out the standard because I'm not a contractor and I don't know this stuff, but I have been hearing people say "don't put grout in that space" and they never show what to do in that space, everybody just fast-forwards to "ok we're done grouting" and you see this beautiful corner, and nothing has been said about how it got like that, other than "don't put grout!" Even in Home RenoVision's full bathroom remodel video, he skips right over this part.

[@kingdonbarrett3753]

I thought there was also a chance I'm ahead of myself with my grout saw and the right thing to do now is to just dig out all the grout from where it wasn't supposed to go, fill it with silicone, and douse the entire area with impregnator sealer. But very much afraid this will turn out poorly and we'll be at it again in a few years. I figure if we're going to do it at all, probably worth redoing the whole thing now. If you read this far, my actual question is, is it possible to add grout to grout or am I setting myself up to failure if I don't remove basically all of the grout before I start adding more grout now? Is it OK to just dig out enough grout so I can put down a new layer of grout? Will my new grout adhere to the old grout if it's clean, or do I want to dig out all the existing grout down all the way to the backer board?

[@AshOnTop23]

I wish I had known about caulking plane changes- I'm currently digging out cracked grout where a contractor did not do this and the grout between the floor and outside wall has cracked in just a few months (very cold climate) and no, I'm not going to make the contractor do it. When he fixes mistakes things ususally get worse.

[@FrontlineNewsToday]

Helpful info - thanks!

[@C2IT678]

Going to try fusion pro for the 1st time

[@FPaiva-jx7ic]

Great tips, thank you!!!

[@ricardochong6834]

If the grout in a store bought tub seems a bit too dry, can you add water and mix it?

[@scottewen1612]

Should I use silicone around the shower floor where it meets the shower walls?

[@bretgreen5314]

Nice lesson; thank you

[@tsirku7620]

Great work! Could a person seal the tile before you grout?

[@JH-zr8lo]

Is this a sanded or unsanded?

[@Brownbeardad]

Tried using the link to your tools. Getting 'Sorry we couldn't find that page.' I am interested in your tools and materials.

[@GaryGoRound-to7ld]

when I use urethane grout I do about 3-4 sq feet at a time and wipe down as I go ...always worked for me. I prefer to use it when I can because when I do it that way there is 0 clean up...no going back and wiping away the haze...

[@ThatTileChick]

Small sections are a must !

[@carolmartin4413]

Absolutely

[@greyfi]

Ma'am, that was an awesome tutorial. I'm an old retired Marine who is trying to refresh the grout in my 60 year old kitchen floor. I recently tried to "paint" it and it was a disaster and realized it would not last. I'd rather apply something that will out last me. Having said that would you recommend the Spectralock 1 as a viable solution, and if so where can I purchase it? Thanks and Semper Fi Ken

[@ThatTileChick]

Semper Fi Ken! I would highly recommend either Laticrete Spectralok 1 or Mapei Flexcolor CQ both are similiar products and can be found at your local floor and decor. If not you can order it online no problem

[@greyfi]

Thank you Ma'am. I'm torn between doing it myself or hiring someone with experience in grout refresh. The question becomes is the juice worth the squeeze? In any event, God bless and rock on @@ThatTileChick

[@landbaronusainc5667]

So I tiled around an American Standard Ovation fiberglass shower. I understand you said gout in the corners were the tile meets, should I also grout at the ceiling(tile goes up to ceiling) and also were the tile meets the fiberglass walls?

[@olgacotto7915]

Very helpful! Thank you!

[@judydayes1265]

Hi Shannon! So glad to have found your video. I am just starting to put on my grout and the timing couldn't be any better. Back to the store with the powder and looking for the pre-mix. All of this with great nails too! Wish I would have found this channel earlier. Enjoy your craft and subway looks good from here.

[@ThatTileChick]

Thanks Judy! Hope your project came out awesome!

[@judydayes1265]

@That Tile Chick Wellll... it's a good start . Too much lipage in parts, even using the clip system. Backbuttering like it was jam. Lol

[@dbagpiper]

Best chainsaw repair vid I've seen yet! I'll probably watch another 15 or 16 times just to make sure I didn't miss anything...

[@mrzif0013]

How do you feel about using epoxy grout to lay tile/grout over an old fiberglass shower pan?

[@FishingWithMichaelTruong]

Great video. I didn't even know that there was a PU based pre-mixed grout so you taught me something new. Is it water proof like epoxy?

[@boucher4343]

Great video. I’m doing this in my bathroom now. Might be a stupid question, but do you grout the top of tile where it meets ceiling and bottom where it meets tub/shower or just use caulking like the corners?

[@JessicaC-tg4os]

How do you keep the silicone in the corners from getting mold? I haven’t really had a problem with grout but the silicone always gets mold. Thanks!

[@D-NICE33]

Great video loaded with very helpful information. I have a quick question. I am grouting a shower floor 2"x2" porcelain tiles, I was going to use Fusion pro premix grout from Custom Building Products that doesn't need to be sealed or Simple Grout from same company that needs to be sealed afterwards. The Fusion Pro is twice the cost so just wondering what you would advise?

[@ThatTileChick]

We always er on the side of caution with grouts and use the stronger (and usually more expensive product) for our installations.

[@D-NICE33]

@@ThatTileChick Thanks, I am going to grab the better product. 🍺🍻🍺 CHEERS!!!

[@sarahrafalowski3817]

Do you ever use grout release? I’m wondering if that might make it easier for people who have never grouted…or maybe with your tips it’s not necessary?

[@biddystar]

Question, do you seal the grout after? About the corners, so I take off the grout and replace it with silicon, would that not look a little pit messy?

[@EPHONIC]

Thanks! Is it okay to apply grout down between the floor of a shower and wall to fill large gaps prior to caulking?

[@marilyntullgren5027]

Okay to use this on kitchen tile?

[@lindacapizano6360]

You didn’t mention sealing it. Do you seal after the process?

[@TheOMEGANOX]

Laticrete says many things about this stuff, that it was in development over a decade, that it’s their biggest advancement in grouting in the last 20 years, that everywhere you would have used spectralock pro epoxy you can use this instead. And they guarantee it for life. So just for clarity, you guys are using this exclusively on all shower floors and have been for a while?

[@Bapuji42]

Schannon, What do you think of Polyblend pre-mixed grout?

[@garbaldy9926]

I hire my nephew to do all of my tile jobs! If Shannon was local I would never hire my nephew again and I would be there to bring fresh water, mix thinset, clean up, bring her lunch....

[@johnwallace3215]

Shut up you couldn’t mix thinset and you know it

[@davidalexander3093]

Thats fucked up man

[@weldinggirl]

@@davidalexander3093😂😂seriously

[@manuel12888]

Thank you

[@institches2750]

I wish I'd seen this video a few weeks ago! I might have tried tackling this myself. Is there any scenario in which the thin-set, mesh tape, and aquadefense would extend 2-3 inches PAST the tile onto the finished wall? I ask because that's how my shower was tiled, and the tilers are telling me to skim the area with joint compound and paint it. However, the drywall was newly installed and painted days before they started. I'm not sure if there was a reason to do it like this, or if the tilers just misjudged how far they planned to bring the tile and I should be asking them to fix it..

[@anthesis1728]

Have you used grout guns (similar to caulking guns) to apply the grout? I found many on Amazon and some of them were interesting.

[@modestohodesto7140]

Great job. Love the two bucket tip. How long can the grout stay ready to use in the bucket ?

[@ThatTileChick]

That's a good question. I cant find the information on that anywhere. It does say on the data sheet that the shelf life of the factory sealed product is 1.5yrs. But nothing about being open and in use. I would just be careful it doesn't skim over. I work slow and its never happened to me.

[@tiletheworld]

2 bucket method - I do the same thing! Great tip.

[@tiletheworld]

​@@ThatTileChick I do a lot of samples and push this time frame and often, but 6 months would be my rule of thumb. The key is to have the barrier card down on the grout and lid sealed.

[@djerostim]

This is also a phenomenal idea.. saves from constant trips of new water.

[@danebuxbaum7535]

How long do you have to wait until you silicone the corners with this grout? Great video, thanks!

[@djerostim]

I would wait at least 24-36 hours, depending on humidity and temperature.

[@jamescastner7870]

I have just completed tiling a fireplace surround. Some of the edge tiles abut the wooden mantel or the painted walls. Should I mask the grout lines of those tiles with blue painter's tape or something else? Is there any way to work more meticulously where the grout lines meet wood or wallboard so the white grout doesn't smear against the wood or paint?

[@patcollins6520]

I'm tilein my kitchen I did not know about the corners I do now

[@claycooke8204]

i used a pre mixed grout when tiling my fireplace hearth and it stained my hardwood floors really bad as i grouted the outside edge/trim, any tips to get it off quickly or prevent staining?

[@ThatTileChick]

For a scenario like that I would tape off any surface that isn’t going to receive grout. So if I’m grouting a transition from tile to wood I would put blue tape or purple tape (won’t remove finish if left on too long) and then grout. Also keep in mind tile to any hard surface should like a termination should be getting a flexible sealant like grout color matched silicone or grout color matched acrylic caulk!

[@michelec6596]

is the transition between tile and tube considered a change of plane? the sanded grout that was used to fill the almost 1 inch (at the most) gap between tub and tile is molding, cracking away from the tub and some is cracking off.

[@2008alde]

I looked at this video to get some idea how to use a pre-mixed tile.. Though I found it useful, in practice it did not go as well and as easy as it was depicted in this video. Firstly the premix tile grout that I use might’ve been a different brand and putting it on the tiles ended up with chunks just falling to the floor. The premixed grout did not seem to be as wet possibly or pliable so I was having lots of issues getting it on the wall without putting the grout all over the tile rather than just applying it to the joints as depicted in the video. I did however manage to re-grout my tiles after using a tile saw to remove just the superficial grout that was already in the shower stall. I will say that the job did come out very well and not having using a dry mix, the application and haze removal went well though it did take some effort. I was able to complete the job done in one day and I don’t think that would have been the case had I used the typical unsanded dry grout.

[@arbez101]

You said, "...the premix tile grout that I use might’ve been a different brand..." Well... don't you know if it was or wasn't a different brand? If it wasn't one of the two brands named in the video, then it WAS A DIFFERENT BRAND. Therefore your difficult experience using it is irrelevant to the smooth operation "depicted" in the video, I would say.

[@2008alde]

Yo. Relax … I wasn’t attacking you but rather just another person here giving my personal experience with using premixed grout is all. As I said, perhaps I was using a different brand and then again perhaps I was using the same brand

[@ThatTileChick]

@@2008alde Dependning on the pre mixed grout used often times they require you to stir or mix it prior to use, it sounds like in your case it was very thick and could have used a mix prior to grouting. This grout is messy and will fall off of your grout float so it takes some practice to get it right.