Growing Points with Cinema 4D Scene Nodes and a Volume-Builder

[@feralmode]

wow man this looks awesome can’t wait to try it. you’re knocking it outta the park. thanks for sharing your expertise with us

[@a__ed7445]

Great tutorial, thanks for sharing. Very exciting to see what is possible with the Node System. Thanks again for your work.

[@BodachStudio]

I would love to see a tutorial on how you rendered those images. Really, really good stuff!

[@realruckli]

@@BodachStudio its just a simple rock and cristal material mix with triplaner mapping. My tutorials are more about scene nodes, there are a lot of good rendering tutorials out there ;)

[@gv0zdysh0k]

mindblowing!!! Please make a video on top 10 or 20 of your favourite nodes please. this topic is significant, and really complicated, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!!!

[@felipesalvador597]

Awesome results, but i was folllowing the tutorial and stopped at 29:12 , when you add some additional points to the Positions and Age so it creates a Vertex Map, in my case no Vertex Map was created, do ypu know why?

[@realruckli]

You are right, this trick not always works. The Vertex Map gets created automaticly when you start growing points, but the probem is that the Vertex Map gets lost when you go back to frame 0. So thats a bit anoying. A better solution is to plug an Append Element Node between the Memory Solver and the Iterate Collection. This should make sure that there is always a point at Frame 0. Hope that helps.

[@giannilorusso]

Great tutorial!

[@FangCui-h2h]

Love this tutorial! Just one question, do you know how to bake the animation from the volume mesher and the vertex map? Thank you very much!

[@realruckli]

@@FangCui-h2h you can bake it to alembic, i think this is the easiest solution. Hope that answers your question

[@antronero5970]

Amazing as always! Do you know from where to start learning capsules? Any courses or material to grasp it from scratch? Thanks bro

[@realruckli]

I can recommend reading the documentation or there is a good tutorial blog called: nodebase.info/

[@bharat5194]

Fantastic!

[@albancontrepois]

Veryy powerful and versatile setup, amazing tut mate ! How did you learn this nodes skills ?

[@realruckli]

Thanks :) I can recommend reading the documentation and the rest is learning by doing. Also the guys from Maxon gave me some tips. And an other good way to start are the example scenes inside the Asset Browser or the Website nodebase.info/

[@althornhill9491]

really cool effect!

[@mogaro7525]

Thank god for smart people

[@traegami]

fantastic

[@danieljoda]

Wow! thank you for sharing!! :)

[@nihay1540]

Hello! Thanks for this wonderful tutorial! I don't know why it didn't work with my object? I even try just to replace the head by my object in your file just to test if it was a node problem in my file but it seems like it is my object. I imported a logo in C4D, the object was a Vector Imported. I tried to make it an object and by clicking state to object then connect the object. I used the final connected object to replace the head. I don't know why it stopped working :(

[@realruckli]

@@nihay1540 so no longer collides or it stoped working completly? You can send me your scene file via mail (in the channal description), so i can have a look whats going wrong there. Could be a problem with a c4d update

[@nihay1540]

@@realruckli Thank you for answering! It works with your files but when I try to replace the object with mine it doesn't work. I sent you my files!

[@julianjd]

Thank you for creating this tutorial! Unfortunately, I encountered an issue at the point where you first press play to see the point cloud growing. Instead of a growing point cloud, I see new spheres being generated around a central sphere. These spheres disappear after a few frames and are replaced by new ones, creating a sort of "dancing" effect around the center. Do you have any idea what might be causing this?

[@realruckli]

Hard to say. Does my deliverd example scene from gumroad work, or do you have the same behaviour there? Otherwise you can send me your scene file via mail (in the channal description) and I can have a look.

[@julianjd]

@@realruckli Appreciate the quick reply! Your scene file doesn't work for me either, so it must be my version of C4D (I'm still using the 2023 version currently).

[@realruckli]

@@julianjd Ah yep, you have to use at least 2024.2. You can see the required version always in the bottom left corner in the tutorial startscreen :)

[@Willopo100]

how to make it more smooth in motion. at the moment it looks like stop motion

[@realruckli]

Thats the nature of any grow effect. You can make it smoother by make the resolution of your setup much higer to hide the popping effect. But this will lead in bigger calculation times of course.

[@bcrbdb]

Great tutorial! Can you make these spheres growing in a object, in a mesh topology instead of them appearing loose in space? Thank you very much.

[@realruckli]

Not 100% sure what you mean, but is the advanced capsule that i present at the end of the video maybe the solution (growing them inside the head model)?

[@bcrbdb]

@@realruckli Thank you for the answer. I would like it to grow outside of the surface of the head, like you know on particle systems that have a surface follow operator, not starting inside and colliding with the inside of the head. Thanks

[@realruckli]

@@bcrbdb Yes this should be no problem. Instead of checking if the point is inside the head you can project every point with the "Closest Point On Surface" Node to the desired surface. Maybe a good node exercise :) . Let me know if you need any help

[@eihabvisuals6327]

Can you make a rain tutorial setup like the fancy ones in x particles and Houdini with particles splashes and meshed pooled up water on objects in scene using default c4d?

[@realruckli]

I think the new particle system is perfect for that, check e.g. 3DBonfires Tutorials, he has some about particles and water: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYaviZaKfZx9qK8 My channel is more about Scene Nodes, Capsules and a bit of Python :)

[@yungbuttermilch]

Fantastisch! Is it possible to grow this in the volume of a geometry?

[@realruckli]

Yep, as explained at the end of the tutorial with the advanced setup

[@yungbuttermilch]

@@realruckli I wrote the comment mid-view! 😄Thanks!

[@timaging]

holy crap how does anyone think of this? so far over my head!

[@azoozhosam8072]

Really nice, but I don't understand anything. Do you know good courses to teach these things from the beginning?

[@realruckli]

thanks and yes :) . You can go to the core4d youtube channel, they have tutorials form the ground up explaining everithing in detail. Perfect for beginners. Just serch for core4d on youtube

[@aliqaiser3393]

how to make this effect in object or product shape

[@realruckli]

Watch till the end ;) . My advanced Setup has an option for that. Cheers

[@bloohaus8670]

Is this getting close to blenders geo nodes?

[@realruckli]

I’m not super familiar with geo nodes, but I think they are pretty similar. Some ideas of my setups are inspired from geo nodes and houdini ;)

[@soniaso6949]

@9.13 I am not getting "Scaffold" menu after pressing ctrl+G ...what should i do ?

[@realruckli]

You can also right click and than select "Group in Scafould..."

[@soniaso6949]

@@realruckli actually i was doing this in C4d 2023.3 ..so there is no option of scaffold..i think its only in 2024 version😒

[@mizoik9893]

Hi can you generate points like this to use in grain dynamics

[@realruckli]

To my surprise, yes this works :) . You have to switch the Generator Instance Mode to "Instance" or "Render Instance". And add a Matrix Op with e.g. a Sphere as Output as explained in the Tutorial at MIn 10:20

[@realruckli]

And when you use bullet the peformance is even better. Damn that so great, thanks for the hint :D

[@mizoik9893]

ive made it without scene nodes using a cloner but i would love to do it by scene nodes@@realruckli

[@mizoik9893]

i really just want to use cinema 4d and it's systems and have no need to go to hudini with these dynamic particles, wold love if you could make a tutorial@@realruckli

[@mizoik9893]

can you actualy make a particle system, give age to those particles and other properties, also how do you calculate intersections for exapmle to restrict spawning area or select the area to spawn from? i mean still gotta use hoidini for it @@realruckli

[@frankwerner923]

When I use Volume Builder C4D is crashing all time. Any ideas? And thanks a lot for the great tutorial!

[@realruckli]

Hhhm hard to say, wich c4d version do you use? You can send me the file via mail, so i can check it (mail in channel description)

[@frankwerner923]

@@realruckli thanks a lot for the offer, but its not one file in particular. Its every time im using volume builder :(

[@realruckli]

Oh okey, did you updated cinema to the newest version?

[@collectiveunconscious3d]

Very cool but can't get it to work. I've tried your file as well and it doesn't work for me either. I've followed your tutorials and checked it a couple of times but I can't get it grow in the initial stage. The second sphere only changes position but doesn't duplicate. I'm using 2024 though

[@realruckli]

Wich 2024 version do you use? You can send me your file and i can check what's going on. Mail in my channel description

[@collectiveunconscious3d]

hey hey, I'm on version 2024.0.0@@realruckli Thanks for the reply

[@pattnethercoat]

@@realruckli Yeah I'm getting some bugs in 2024.3.1. Some connections don't get propagated correctly. eg at 6:51, my iterate collection node property page doesn't have this line when connected: >Collection -● Memory I've had it also with other nodes where an integer port is connected but the property panel doesn't have have a dialog box. Can still plug an integer node into the port though.

[@realruckli]

@@pattnethercoat hhmm I tested my files in 3.1, everything works fine. You can send me your scene file via mail so i can have a look.

[@pattnethercoat]

@@realruckli So it seems the line only disappears when the position input is *also* plugged into the Append Elements node. Is there logic to that?

[@DrNapalm]

Hi Dominik! when I set the closest point condition, the particle spawn is very low (3/4 points max). I tried to compare my scene to yours and it's practically identical. the cinema version is cinema 2024.1. how can I fix that?

[@realruckli]

Hhmm maybe play with the noise threshold. Or you could download my files and compare it

[@DrNapalm]

@@realruckli tThe problem is the closest point, I think. because this "error" appears before the noise part. when I put the "compare" node in the "count" of the "Append Element" node, particle spawning does not work :(

[@DrNapalm]

@@realruckli I compared my scene with yours but it is identical, I don't understand what the problem could be. probably the version of Cinema on which this system was built?

[@realruckli]

@@DrNapalm Should also work with 2024.1. Is your Point Scale the same size as your Max Distance in the Closest Points Node?

[@realruckli]

@@DrNapalm You can send me your file, so i can have a look (mail in my channel info)

[@feralmode]

lol at ‘not too complicated’

[@folders_apries]

superrrr!

[@fluxstandard8364]

anyone if maxon even bothered to put out documentation on nodes similar to Houdini

[@realruckli]

There is a documentation inside the c4d doc. And there is also a beginners guide on youtube at core4d 😉

[@fluxstandard8364]

@@realruckli umm i tried looking for documentation and it was filmsy in that it was not node by node

[@realruckli]

95% of all nodes are documented. An there is also an introduction for scene nodes. Easiest way is to right click on any node parameter and than go to help, there you should see all the pages

[@fluxstandard8364]

@@realruckli okay ill have a look thanks

[@Pryaingoffice]

This looks cool, but my C4D2023 can't do this project

[@realruckli]

@@Pryaingoffice thanks. Yes you need at least 2024 for this project

[@FredericAndresArt]

Meega!!

[@radoman1234]

It's not too complicated... No wayyyyyyyyy Remind me on dentist... relax, this will not hurt... to much 😛

[@realruckli]

😂