Keep Bonsai Deadwood From Rotting

[@kubawojciechowski6212]

AYO, MR. WHITE! You went full chemist on this one! (safety departament would have had a field day with you tho..) You brought up so many important safety info, and you lived by almost NONE of them. You are an engineer at heart. I was often thinking how i could conserve deadwood - always being afraid that any type of coservant will "seep into the ground some bad things". This seems like it is quite brilliant solution, since the *SOLUTION* will be absorbed by the dry wood nicely all the way inside! (OH THE solution PUN!!!!) Kudos to you again, cause i haven't seen anybody present such solid D.I.Y. cool method out in the community. Merry freakin Christmas Chief!

[@GrowingBonsai]

HeyHey, thank you so much. Yeah, what can I say. There are all the safety precautions. Or you just work carefully and pay attention what you do. ;). I grew up in the last century and I guess health and safety was treated differently then.

[@blueridgebonsai9155]

Good video, but you should be wearing safety glasses to protect your eyes in case the acetone solution splashes. I checked and PARALOID B72 is mainly used as a SURFACE coating during conservation work so I wonder how far into the wood it penetrates. It would be interesting to do an experiment soaking a scrap of wood in the solution, let it dry, and then cut a cross section to answer the penetration question. Also this stuff is expensive! It sells for about $10 for 25 grams here, how much are you getting it for in Germany?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Yeah, I know. But I am sometimes a but unwise ;) I bought a big bag some years ago for maybe 50 bucks. This will last me decades. But I did a lot of searching. At some point I found a wholeseller that sold in "small" quantities. I often do this. Buy more than I need and then just resell tp people around me, sharing the cost.

[@XaviersBonsaiRetreat]

This is an excellent option and one I may consider on a future project. Thanks as always

[@GrowingBonsai]

Any time!

[@ChillGuyBonsai]

Great video! This Christmas, I'm treating myself to buy a few more trees 🌳 Olives do great here in South africa 🇿🇦

[@GrowingBonsai]

Ohoh.. what did I do.. Do you not have enough trees ;)?

[@rebeccahunter725]

Awesome teaser at the end! Can't wait!!

[@GrowingBonsai]

me neither. I so want to finish that video!

[@Griffin13-o1m]

What a great information mr jelle heisenberg.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mvlameiras]

Congratulations on your remarkable work, greetings from Brazil and more success for the channel!

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thank you very much! Brazil is one of my favorite countries! Been there for work many many times. Great to hear I have viewers there.

[@BonsaiBlacksmith]

Thank you Jelle for this deep dive on deadwood.

[@GrowingBonsai]

It just needed to be done!

[@harrietb2141]

I have always wonderd how protest the roots of tanuki from roting. You are the first to tell us. Thank you very much. Merry Christmas 🎄🎅🏼🎁

[@GrowingBonsai]

Happy holidays!

[@Warriori2i]

great idea an info ...

[@GrowingBonsai]

Glad it was helpful!

[@judlpd]

Well, you learn something every day.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hope so!

[@randysmith1723]

As a chemistry lab tech (Medical reference lab) I was holding my breath for you…. I hate Nitrile gloves, still prefer the latex. So, we all draw our lines for living on the edge. I am looking forward to seeing this one in the future. Thanks, and have a Merry Christmas!

[@GrowingBonsai]

:) Sorry. I have spent countless weeks in labs in the past working with acetone as a dilutant (tannin extraction from foliage samples). So I have some idea of the risks (Which is also why I do this outside). On the other hand.. Nail polish remover is effectively acetone too, and millions of people use that without protection every day!

[@bigtomatoplantslover6205]

Wow Wonderful Bonsai ~ Thank you for good sharing LIKE 240 My friend, have a good relationship 😊

[@GrowingBonsai]

well, thankyou.

[@memberphil]

Thank you so much for this Video!!! I have some amazing deadwood from pur greece vacation, i ll treat now for my tanuki prjects like this 😊

[@GrowingBonsai]

Sounds great! Make sure you have the wood exactly as you want it before conserving

[@ThorstenBalatus]

Hi Jelle, this Video is (again) very helpful and de-mystefy the whole chemistry of the commercial available wood hardener. Some labour though, but worth the effort in terms of flexibility and cost. Is this the equivalent to the plastination process which is used to fix tissue samples or even whole bodies? Where did you find out? Great stuff

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hi Thorsten, this is the material used by musea for conservation and stabilization of old specimens. I found it online. I just searched and found a website selling it.

[@ThorstenBalatus]

@@GrowingBonsai perfect, thank you for the answer.

[@bonsaiencdmx]

Agradezco mucho tu generosidad informativa, muy buen trabajo!

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thank you so much!

[@raysbonsai]

Very Very informative, never seen that done 😊

[@GrowingBonsai]

Glad to hear!

[@stephenmayne4886]

Thanks for sharing this great information. Merry Christmas 🎅

[@GrowingBonsai]

gladly! Happy Holidays!

[@peacefulGHILLIE]

Nice video thanks, that cliff hanger at the end 😂

[@GrowingBonsai]

You bet :D. It is coming in 2025, unless the plants die on me...

[@laddieokelley6095]

I asked another KZbin presenter this week about using wood hardener on jins. Thanks for this alternative--I will need to see if Paraloid B72 is readily available here in the U.S. My understanding is that ready-to-use hardeners include polymers. Elmer's makes a rotted wood stabilizer. Minwax also makes a popular hardener. I don't know about the penetration of either product. Thanks.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Cool. If you try them let me know how they work for you!

[@kiwibonsai2355]

Mmmm I wonder how Kauri gum would react with acetone..🤔 Will be my experiment for the day. ✌️❤️🇳🇿

[@GrowingBonsai]

and?

[@BonsaiStyle]

Hey Jelle I'm also planning a tanuki project like this. I'm pleased that I now know a way to protect the wood 🙏 However, I still have a lot of respect for the chemicals 😵‍💫 What good (possibly less dangerous) alternatives could you name? 🤔 And please at least wear safety goggles... 😲 We want to see many more videos from you 🥳 Thank you and best regards, Sebastian

[@GrowingBonsai]

Hi Sebastian, look in the stores for wood hardener. Then try it on a piece that is not important to you. For me, soaking it for days (weeks) in a close container might be key to getting the longer term effect.

[@BonsaiStyle]

@@GrowingBonsai Thanks 🙏

[@BenshobbyStuff]

some great advice as usual mate. ill have to look into this :)

[@GrowingBonsai]

enjoy

[@davidvanbeukering8074]

Hi Jelle, Thank you for the informative video-very interesting! I have a question: does a treatment with Paraloid B72 also work on a shari located right next to the lifeline of a Pinus parviflora bonsai? I understand that immersion is not an option in this case, but if you apply it with a pipette or a brush, can this be done it safely or will this negatively affect the lifeline? For example, could it come into contact with the cambium and thus impact the sap flow? I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Looking forward to your response. Thanks in advance!

[@GrowingBonsai]

certainly would. Question is whether you want to do this. With pines typically the slow eroding of deadwood creates nice age?

[@FrostBiteBonsai]

Well.... I had been wondering how to best preserve these.... Now I know!

[@GrowingBonsai]

Glad I could help!

[@themichaellerner]

Did you need to make such a concentrated solution of the Paranoid? Perhaps fewer plastic chips would have dissolved more readily and a thinner solution might be absorbed more deeply into an up the wood?

[@GrowingBonsai]

I am not sure.

[@Cory_J]

Interesting stuff, Jelle. I use PC Petrifier. It seems to work well. I used to use Minwax wood harder, but I was told that it can be toxic to the tree. PC Petrifier is apparently water-based, and not toxic. IDK if it's availablein Europe, though.-- Cory (aka misfit11 on BonsaiNut)

[@GrowingBonsai]

Heya Cory, good to see you here. I might have to look into these products, thanks!

[@j.eanderson1262]

Do you have to at least double the amount of acitone over plastic to get it to soak into the root? Do u use the lime sulfur for other purposes like to treat or prevent fungus? Does the full concentrated kill plants?

[@GrowingBonsai]

I am not sure whether the amount of acetone affects how well it absorbs. I want to have as much of the paraloid in the solution and get it into the wood.

[@themichaellerner]

Can you reuse the leftover liquid plastic for a subsequent project? If so, what is its shelf life? If not, how do yo properly dispose of it?

[@GrowingBonsai]

This is indeed what I do. It keeps untill the acetone has evaporated. After that, you can dissolve it again.

[@thomassiebenburgen6464]

Hi Jelle! What is linesulfur to protect the death wood? I can´t find this. Greetings, Thomas

[@GrowingBonsai]

Have a look at a bonsai store. Each of them will have it.

[@oachkatzlsmum]

Plastinated deadwood 🤩👍 Reminds me to Gunther von Hagens… 😅😉 Actually like it. 👍 Cheers 🙋‍♀️

[@GrowingBonsai]

I guess I am lucky I do not know Gunther.

[@oachkatzlsmum]

@ 😂 I guess you’re right

[@mcbabs7495]

Un grand merci pour le partage de votre expérience!

[@GrowingBonsai]

Thank you for stopping by!

[@axumverona3484]

With epoxy resin, maybe. The resin encapsulates everything and makes the wood waterproof, forever. Epoxy resin is not toxic, when it crystallizes. You could try.

[@GrowingBonsai]

WIll do, thx!

[@too_tricky5759]

Tanuki Tease!!!

[@GrowingBonsai]

I know right!

[@joint-heirwithchrist5241]

I say this with concern and love Jelle; You need a new jar and lid every time. Don't shake the jar if the lid doesn't work. Watching you stir acetone while looking down through the opening of that jar was scary, Glasses or googles are essentially a must @ 4:20. leather gloves too, as plastic/latex is not ideal with acetone. You were breathing way to many fumes my friend. ..I was choking; Acetone is no friend. Peace Jelle play safe.

[@GrowingBonsai]

Sorry to give you a scare. Thx for the concern. Being outside with a light breeze in my back made less fumes reaching me than one would think though :).

[@nicolejordan3270]

Big fan & love the acetone warning... but your wife probably already has it in the house.... fingernail polish remover. (At least here in the USA) Lol. Women have been using acetone on their fingers for years. But... maybe we shouldn't?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Exactly what I am always thinking when all these safety warning pop up!

[@sushmaearaiah413]

Why not just use matte clear varnish and paint it?

[@GrowingBonsai]

Because that is just surface coating.

[@brucedeacon28]

👍👌🙂

[@GrowingBonsai]

:D

[@stuartbaines2843]

Nasty Chemical solvent 💀 Tried this style a few years ago but was not happy. I have thought pickling wood in salt water might be a Solution? Aka driftwood 👍

[@GrowingBonsai]

Challenge is that salt in substrate is very bad. How owuld you stop it from leeching?

[@stuartbaines2843]

@@GrowingBonsai I agree that’s why I have not tried it 🤔 I need to get some seashore drift wood and run a trial

[@deepanjanbanerjee3491]

Wish there was a way to permanently conserve whatever intelligence I still have!

[@GrowingBonsai]

Yeah, a constant worry for us all!