A Complex Situation | J-11B Flanker-L Vs F-16 Viper | INTERCEPT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thank you for watching, I hope everyone is enjoying the civilian aspect in these videos, I think it adds a nice layer of complexity and makes things a little more interesting. Thank you watching guys Much Love.

[@Miguelcooldude777]

Day 88 asking for F35C vs F/A-18F Super Hornet

[@SEJay-gj2cv]

I know it's kind of a silly request but I would really appreciate seeing you RTB or return to carrier after one of these successful missions. Idk why but watching the landing gives closure and is oddly satisfying lol Thanks for everything!

[@Camancp1]

What rudder pedals would you recommend to someone starting out in dcs?

[@l_Simon-]

Absolutely! It makes things a lot more spicy when you can't just shoot whenever it feels like a good launch.

[@高橋澄一]

How do you get the civilian aircraft?

[@Flamamacue]

This is gonna have me glued to the window seat next time I'm on a commercial flight to ensure I'm not missing out on any surprise dogfights going on in the area

[@YourUserNameSucksx10]

Lol

[@Wolf_3125]

Plot twist: you'll see hot air balloons, cessnas, and F-18s dogfighting each other 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@f22lover34]

I agree

[@f22lover34]

Ima make sure I do that as well 😂

[@Flamamacue]

@@f22lover34 I won't pretend like I don't already haha

[@TemplarDCS]

GS always does the most with the camerawork to display what's going on, always nice

[@MattWaller04]

I swear. Excellent videography.

[@starbase218]

"He may be fine with slinging his missiles wherever they go." Yeah.. as a Dutch person, we had some experience with that. MH17, July 17th, 2014.

[@charlescomly1]

I like how you are creating more complicating situations that mimick possible real life senerios.

[@Joshj963]

I'm late to the comments but, I gotta say that I really enjoy adding realism with the implementation of civilian aircraft. Hope to see more but I also really enjoy and look forward to your content.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks very much, I appreciate the feedback. Probably going to be keeping the civilian aircraft thing going, lots of people responding positively to it

[@miguelruiz8183]

@@GrowlingSidewinder this mission totally changes the dynamic limiting how aggressive you can engage the bandit. The situational awareness goes to a completely different level. Love it GS

[@TheDman52]

I agree

[@bedhunter]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I suggest you do a policing mission where things go south, like those NATO interceptions of civilian aircraft carrying Russian VIP over the Baltic countries, where the Russian did not declare its fighter escorts. Plenty of vids out there of actual events for inspiration, and its one of the few modern scenario that could actually end in a dogfight.

[@gaiofattos2]

Everyone gangsta until Airbus launch their meteors.

[@btnoodles]

This right here.

[@sharpstriker1559]

True meaning of a Meteor shower.

[@johnxina6823]

USS stark incident

[@clairecelestin8437]

Cessna... Chaff... Both start with C. Great video! I love the complexity of non-combatants in the airspace. Also, it's hard for me to visually orient or determine altitude over the ocean, so blacking out while pointing at the sea makes me even more nervous than usual blackouts.

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

The next one you do, you should have the airspace extremely congested with an enemy with a large loadout actively engaging the civilian craft, see how many of them you can save.

[@JiveCinema]

Yes

[@BrianTRice77]

Call it “Airspace Invaders” 😂

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

@@BrianTRice77 perfect 👌

[@GooseOfYork]

Terrorist interception, basically

[@arnavsadhu]

It will be a disaster.

[@brandonschwertley2723]

Never would have thought a Fox-1 missile would have a legitimate advantage over a Fox-3 but we've found it. Doing this in an F-14 would be very difficult due to the lack of data link but also potentially helpful

[@brandonschwertley2723]

@Tracking Phoenix Hypothetically speaking my dude.

[@tangofrown3352]

it does have datalink

[@brandonschwertley2723]

@@tangofrown3352 The later F-14D maybe, but I was under the impression the F-14A and F-14B did not have datalink. Or at least they were not modeled in DCS that way. Wasn't that one of the reason's F-14 were assigned lack luster assignments in Desert Storm. They were less capable at positive Target ID

[@kilianortmann9979]

@@brandonschwertley2723 The F-14, starting with the earliest A models had the Link-4 datalink. For its time very advanced, but in the 90s thoroughly outdated, it had two modes. Link 4A to communicate with a single donor (AWACS) and Link 4C to share data within a flight, both were AFAIK mutually exclusive and the peer to peer members had to be selected on the ground. The Tomcat and the F-15C had also the standard IFF capabilities, beyond that the Eagle had a more modern datalink, supposedly an early form of NCTR and most importantly nothing else to do. Not a pound for air to ground got the Airforce into the nice situation that they would always get priority on the AA assignments, otherwise their most modern jets would sit idling on the ground, a luxury the Navy didn't have.

[@brandonschwertley2723]

@@kilianortmann9979 Thanks for the great info, one of those facets of a multi million dollar warplane that doesn't see the light of day past those intimately familiar with the platform.

[@jasons9564]

I fly a 182 for my job and I really want an RWR now. lol. The addition of the civilian AC is a really cool. Definitely need more videos with that.

[@truthseeker9454]

Great execution of a really interesting scenario, GS! Bonus points for integrity at 13:15. That demonstrates good character to break that down that way. Thanks for such quality content, man!

[@TheNiftyReptile]

"Uhh, Speedbird 320, advise you fly heading 140 and max forward airspeed. Possible international incident in progress."

[@camiloriverosmartinez641]

Minute 5:31 I experienced some spatial disorientation with the clouds and the sea perfectly blending and that give me the feeling that you were high cranking to the left and dropping altitude... It was crazy

[@CaptianMoePedro]

Loving the videos rn! I like coming home from a long day and sitting down to learn about the anatomy of aviation combat! One thing that I feel would be an interesting mission to play, would be an older SEAD Mission (maybe set in Vietnam or perhaps older?) With Prowlers attacking ZSU-23s and SAM sites. Sort of like the movie Flight of the Intruder. I'm curious how they did it in the old days. Thanks for the great content!

[@NavySturmGewehr]

I think one of the most enjoyable aspects of your presentation is your role playing as though it's a real situation.

[@SEJay-gj2cv]

I know it's kind of a silly request but I would really appreciate seeing you RTB or return to carrier after one of these successful missions. Idk why but watching the landing gives closure and is oddly satisfying lol Thanks for everything!

[@derekedge2089]

He does sometimes, tho not usually from the cockpit view, unless he's damaged. You know showcasing his ability to limp back home and save the bird.

[@everettbruckerhoff6029]

@@derekedge2089 like the P-51 vs F-22 video, when he got the kill, and barely got the Mustang back to base.

[@vineetkaddu1214]

Same. I absolutely love that stuff

[@Cybetrexs]

It’s fun when he limps home cause there’s that tension of “will he make it”, but otherwise it’s a lot of the same thing every time.

[@timsullivan4566]

l quite like the real world feel of commercial aviation nearby. Good one, GS, thanks.

[@rick82601]

Started hitting the like button before watching the thing on these intercept videos, good stuff as usual

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Very kind thank u very much

[@P_Mann]

Really liking these fights in complex airspace. 👍👍

[@W1ckedRcL]

This was another great example of respecting the MAR. If you had a top down view it would've very well illustrated the flight pattern for engaging that close to a bandit with fox3s.

[@SubiGoRacing]

I'll say one thing for sure ever since I was a kid I've loved the f16 I grew up in the flight path of tulsa international and the 138th Air guard is stationed there so there was/is f16s over tulsa all the time my sister lives near the end of the runway so we sometimes go watch them still.

[@benjaminmorgan1562]

Love these scenarios. So many options. I still can’t say I’ve loved ANY channel of ANY genre more than this.

[@Yosh1az]

imagine enjoying your flight and out of nowhere fighter jets and missiles zooming past your flight it would be awesome and scary at the same time

[@FrenchFriesInGreece]

I get as excited for a new GS video each time they drop as I do for new eps of whatever series I'm watching at the time. Your vids are so good, man.

[@Keith52188]

I think it would be cool to do the same scenario with the F22, if the bandits are using the commercial airliners to mask their movement use the stealth of the F22 to mask your's

[@jeo228]

This reminds me of the mission in project wingman where all the civilians are talking about your dog fight as the feds confiscate phones for filming you kicking their butt in civi airspace

[@johnmarston2616]

Dude, you do such a good job explaining everything.

[@MarcReisSyllogism]

Very interesting scenario and great review! Looks like there are some great mission options in that area!

[@АвгустБодров]

love your content my friend! its always something to look forward 🙂

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Very kind of you brother thank you

[@johnxina6823]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Growling Shrike

[@christopherschroeder4096]

Is there any way to do a more complex mission like supporting an airfield takeover or covering a friendly force extraction?

[@martinlagrange8821]

This is an excellent video, and gives a lot of great ideas in terms of A2A training in a real-world situation ... much appreciated.

[@Psikik]

I just love this... 4:59

[@frandescontrolado]

Thnks for the “beeps”, “pings”, etc… explanation. I have been requesting that for a while

[@Orca19904]

Could you imagine being in that Cessna and seeing a puff of smoke appear on the horizon ahead of you and not realizing that could have been you being erased from existence with no warning whatsoever?

[@MaxIsStrange1]

Just a thought - as weird as it may sound it seems that in these kinds of scenarios, Sparrows might be a safer choice than AMRAAMs, since they don’t go pitbull and would present a lower risk of locking onto civilian aircraft nearby 🤔

[@InfernXX]

@@rapid13 *Safer for the Civilian planes in the surrounding area-*

[@lioportman5073]

obsolete weapon. in that case why do not use AMRAAM and still keep lock?

[@odysseus3006]

@@lioportman5073 because the amraam will go active in terminal phase no matter what, the sparrow won't.

[@owenlee4080]

These civilian airliner videos are making me reflect nervously on a flight I once took near Nagorno-Karabakh

[@MarksamtheMarksman_Official]

This is actually cool, ngl.

[@rbrentw]

These are interesting videos, but I do think if there was a known conflict in an area, civilian flights would be rerouted or grounded.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

100% but that’s the idea here it’s a bit of a skirmish

[@VagabondTexan]

We do get plenty of warnings about such things, but take for instance the Formosa Strait in current days. The last time I was there, the Chinese were operating very heavily in international waters, and there was a LOT of warnings flying back and forth between the Chinese and various other nationalities on the guard frequency. Meanwhile, us civilian airliners were just doing our thing in and out of Taipei. All it would take is either one itchy trigger finger, or a sneak attack, and you could see this sort of intermixing very easily. Then it just boils down to the RoE and ethics of the combatants.

[@jeijjj]

Iran Air Flight 655 comes to mind

[@Stant123]

DCS almost turned into Microsoft Flight Simulator with dogfighting Cessna's.

[@yogsothoth3524]

Everyone, settle down! I'm an Air Marshal, Deputy Alilua with the Federation Air Authority! Everyone, just stay calm! Just stay calm! I'm going to be collecting all of your phones right now! Security reasons!

[@TheArcangle]

I just looked at the fuel flow in F16 and its just fascinating that how much fuel drinking beast that is..

[@thatravendude]

Please do more of these Dynamic mission types. That was awesome. Extremely complex Mission environment.

[@DimV95]

amazing video the more contested the environment you make the better it gets

[@GoatzAreEpic]

I love watching your videos before sleeping

[@DeeSnow97]

to be fair, the bandit probably expected you to show up to the merge in that cessna

[@wombat_pickle1674]

just starting to use the f-16 in 1v1 bfr, my only kill is a "maneuver kill" but i still love it so far

[@17missing]

6:33 Cessna, A-10, there’s really no difference.

[@Viking1one]

This video is kinda a major wake up call that pretty much at anytime while I’m flying WWlll could brake out and that’s scary cause I fly a lot

[@darthtytherous2107]

I wish I knew a mod that could procedurally place varying neutral/ civilian air traffic into DCS.

[@TFGhunter]

Thanks for uploading! Another great video.

[@albers17]

i love your videos.... you are amazing. just curious of the after missle launch flying straight and level effects... no one talks about that.

[@joshp2424]

Love the videos with the civilian air craft involved 😂😂💯💯

[@josephiousbrosif]

Love these intercept videos. Could you maybe do a full mil-sim intercept video from cold n dark to attack to landing. I know that'd be a long video but I'd definitely watch the whole thing.

[@corvobatarin6785]

Something I rarely if ever see is people holding TMS up (the lock button) on an enemy that radar hasn't picked up yet, but is visible on datalink. I'm not a definitely sure it does this, but it seems that holding it focuses the radar on the vector of the cursor, instead of still searching the entire width that is set on the MFD. It feels like this helps aquiring a target that radar shows up on datalink, but the on-board radar has trouble picking up

[@The_Original_Brad_Miller]

Guy in the Cessna goes.... what was that bright flash of light????

[@nickn7666]

i love ur vids just bought a stick n throttle for dcs cause u introduced me to it still tryna get good shi hard

[@williamthornton6870]

Sheesh.. I remember when 911 happened and I stepped outside at work after a few hours. The sky was void ofaircraft for a few days. Quite surreal.

[@Firesword534]

Really interesting dynamics with the civilian air traffic. Check out VASAviation's channel. They have a few videos of real world Air Traffic Control recordings vectoring real fighter jets into investigate things like unknown contacts violating closed airspace around major cities or the SuperBowl or the chaos that comes over the radio when Air Force One arrives at an airport. I could only imagine what would be happening in an ATC center if a real life shooting match like this happened with all those airliners in the area.

[@giseler18]

I Like the new Type of Videos keep ob the good worke

[@We.lovejets]

Please sir more of these 🙏🏼 I’m begging

[@thestorm6256]

I would love to see more intercept/escort videos!

[@TurboHappyCar]

Dude these scenarios with civilians are super interesting. I wonder if you could do more with a bandit hiding behind an airliner. Scenario: Outside of a major city, a badguy steals a Hornet out of a neighboring air base carrying bombs for a training mission, but he's out to blow up the [silly objective / baby milk factory]. The badguy knows the city is heavily monitored, so he's going to fly near an airliner headed for the local international airport, then veer off at the last second to hit the target. Growling Sidewinder and Longshot scramble Vipers out of a different airbase to intercept, but they have to interrogate all of the planes to find the bandit. Then once they've found the bandit, either use guns to NOT hit the Chick (friendly aircraft), or wait till they have a clear shot with missiles. Pre-post-edit: Actually this is kind of scary... and I rewrote it to not be like a certain historical event that happened in the year 2001. But something like that would be really cool. Might have to play around with which aircraft you would use for the quality of the radar, and possibly no datalink, to make it so you would have to find and identify the bandit.

[@CapTexamerica]

I didn't realize that whales were such formidable BVR opponents.

[@mattdavis8899]

Get Longshot to fly one of the commercial aircraft and watch hilarity ensue.

[@mtdover]

still never ready for the supersonic flyby lol

[@Algedibarrios]

He brokes the sound barrer at the same time he was broken 🤣🤣🤣

[@TBH322]

One of the best channels on YouTubE, just wanted to put that out there. But I have a question for you. I always wondered why you don’t ripple fire your fox 3’s instead of defending right away? Spending another second or two nose hot and ripple firing would give you a better chance of a kill. Just a thought.

[@AlenB29]

This flanker made a mistake of going for STT lock all the time letting GS know when is he locking and when does he fire giving him ability to stay nose on for longer periods of time. If your opponent is using silent TWS lock you have no idea if there is a missle.coming your way and it makes you sort of paranoid to stay nose on you just wanna defend asap

[@odysseus3006]

@@AlenB29 as far as i know the flankers in dcs can't launch in tws, so he had to go stt prior to launch.

[@AlenB29]

@@odysseus3006 oh god so they really gave the players the worst version of it i dont really get it why does one side have jets from 1980s and the other one from 2010s

[@clementnoel6663]

7th attempt ;) Dassault Rafale against F-14b Tomcat Fox-2 dogfight ;)

[@orzorzelski1142]

We're getting closer to fighting a cessna. 👍

[@ronaldnoble4986]

Since when does an Frigin Chair Force F-16 launch off of one of my carriers?

[@andrewrogers3067]

Yo GS, will we ever see more stuff with the F35? I miss that plane

[@Grizzly55Bear]

Bro makes the coolest videos

[@timbaskett6299]

I don't care who makes them, the Sukhoi "Flankers" are just a pretty plane.

[@rmp5s]

Is RWR an option on a Cessna? lol

[@Nill757]

How can the F16 get locked by opposition and no see it all on its own radar?

[@danielt0489]

GS can you try to do a mission like in top gun 2?

[@mr.goldmanbachmajorian3523]

Great content! Please do videos of bvr fights at night time in dcs.❤

[@mooncatt79]

Forgive the ignorance but I'm always surprised at the amount of missiles used to kill one aircraft. You'd think given today's tech the hardware would be much more efficient

[@ryancawdor8083]

Actual performance is still classified info and cannot be put up so enemy nations can see and learn to exploit. Older obsolete data are for most part accurate, as is shown on GS historical fights. F-14A and -14B are close but the D model is still touchy so as not to give the IIAF any info or ideas, for example.

[@xxbonxx]

good work gs i love the vids

[@n0kodoko143]

Super cool mission!

[@kyleable459]

Oooh come on you got the J11 come on J20 video

[@xxbonxx]

16:50 GS: "dare i say he shot an r77 at the cesna" enemy: on my dl he says a10 GS: its a ... cesna Sees cesna with guns mounted on top gs + enemy: Is that A birddog?

[@floofles9473]

Day 14 of asking for a dogfight between the p-51 mustang and the spitfire. Was gone for a bit but I'm back.

[@BigIronEnjoyer]

A380 convention in town that day, what are the odds?

[@zeek781]

How does tobii 5 head tracking compare to track or 5 head tracking?

[@mikejock18familyx34]

Best video of the day by far 👍

[@Unknown-gi1uj]

Id love to see more fights with Chinese jets, its said the Chinese production of airframes has surpassed that of the US. The Felon, your talking half a dozen maybe a dozen airframes compared to the J-20 which has estimates as high as 50 or more per year! If there is a conflict with China and the US, really learning grasping their capabilities is a must, don't want to be flying into 5 Chinese jets with a F22 if you can't even kill 1 of them, if you get my drift.

[@leftnut7508]

Tac view get an update recently? Seems all the colors and environment was different than previous.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I noticed that too but didn’t notice it during recording, so I think it was actually an issue with the video during rendering.

[@outkast94]

We want More..More..More!!! Civilian hijacking situation with enemy escorts/US One/Rogue grouo of US pilot in a stealth disgruntle with US politicians flips his lid maybe...lol!

[@guyinthecomments6217]

I'd like to see a rematch of the f16 vs su35

[@DonutGuard]

The PL-15 got Moby Dick

[@markstott6689]

Whilst avoiding collateral civilian deaths is very much a Western thought process, there are nations who would put military operations above preservation of civilian life. In a similar situation would you trust Russian, Iranian or North Korean airforces to behave? I'm not convinced that I would. Training to contend with nefarious enemies is vital.

[@aaronliddell4280]

*no civilians were harmed in the making of this video 😂

[@myplane150]

Just above the Data Link is the fuel indicator. Is fuel actually being burned at roughly 15+ gallons a second (100 pounds))? In afterburner, is the burn rate measured in thousands of gallons per minute? If so... damn!!!

[@johnxina6823]

Yeah without a/b its like 9000, with ab it can go all the way 60k

[@imranaiman7184]

Hey GS, could you fly the SU-30MKM in your next videos please?

[@ultralaggerREV1]

What about F-16 vs Japanese F-2A???

[@omniking3479]

Is there any New York City map locations??? Washington DC, Nevada... these locations are getting a bit redundant,.. like to see something new

[@Alphafortress]

Hey GS I got what I think is a bad idea . Can you get in the Jeff and do a BVR fight with a Gripen or against an F16 Really wanna know from the Jeff's point of view how it will hold up

[@AceCmbatguy25]

fucking love these videos