The Hand You're Dealt | P-47D Thunderbolt Vs Bf109 K4 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator DCS WWII

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@PatriotPlus179]

Several people have mentioned the plot of the movie, "The Final Countdown." If you haven't seen it, once you do, you will understand why we want this fulfilled. Send the F-14A Tomcat into Dec 5, 1941 please. Thank you GS.

[@olligesd9343]

F-5 vs. Viggen

[@halodude4481]

Can perhaps we get an A-4 vs ww2 plane fight? haven't seen the A-4 in a while.

[@JohnDoe-vf2es]

Can you do a P-38 vs Mosquito dogfight, please!?

[@tsechejak7598]

I love the 47 bubble top, looks like a jalapeno!

[@DIVeltro]

Two words for the Jug: Raw Power. The jug doesn't fly, it just tells the air to get out of its way.

[@VikingTeddy]

Like the F4 of its day! Except it has some aerodynamics.

[@dixieduffy7]

"Where is he getting all this energy?" My brother, that plane isn't big for aesthetics. It got a huge PW-2800 and a giant(super?) turbo charger in it. It's held back by the prop more than anything.

[@olligesd9343]

I was going to reply with "power". 😄

[@Adam-i5h8f]

Also was un matched in the dive no plane could follow it in the dive without meeting the ground

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

The R-2800, as installed in the P-47 was both turbo and mechanically supercharged, with the turbo supercharger in the aft fuselage feeding a mechanically driven centrifugal supercharger mounted to the back of the engine.

[@minuteman3]

In late 44 the "paddle prop" solved many of the Jugs issues. There is a reason the Jug shot down more planes than the 51.

[@superdupergrover9857]

People forget that, while sure, it is heavy, it isn't as heavy as it looks. Due to its sophisticated turbocharger system, It's half air ducts. IT'S NOT FAT, IT'S LUNG VOLUME!!!

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

Imagine coming out of your cottage on a nice and sunny Spring day to tend to your garden and dairy cow and then having a bunch of .50 cal and 20mm shell casings come raining down on you.

[@wahtx7717]

It's actually 30mm in this case

[@murph3194]

Shotgun is fearless. He reverses the turn to go into a slight negative G maneuver back into the reverse. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="288">4:48</a> lol Don't know if that was intentional or not but he is slippery for sure. Great vid as usual. Well done sir.

[@cavemanbum]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="201">3:21</a> - The Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp 2600-horsepower engine is where he's getting that energy from. LOL

[@busterdee8228]

Shotgun is smooth. Kudos to you for having him.

[@manny2ndamendment246]

P-38 vs everything

[@Fuel_Gage]

Loving the WW2-based videos!

[@jayteti4562]

If you find yourself in a fair fight, then you came unprepared. - USMC

[@stormhawk31]

You DEFINITELY need to do more against Shotgun. It's awesome to see you ACTUALLY challenged, fighting someone who is at least your equal. And Shotgun has EXCELLENT throttle management in that plane.

[@BlastGT1]

Once again, kudos to Shotgun, he is UNREAL.

[@GaryOKeeBlues]

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." - a bunch of different people

[@TMHerron]

I do love watching the 109 fight.

[@mahmoudyassen8444]

The bf-109 looks astonishing in those colours

[@jasonanalco542]

Jagdgeschwader JG squadron leaders usually painted the noses this way. It made them easier to identify.

[@zTheBigFishz]

The Bolt will outperform most WW2 fighters above 15k feet both turning and speed. With that big turbo charger it was meant as a high altitude fighter.

[@Grommok]

Correct.

[@Leperboy]

not the bf109 especially at higher altitudes the 109 can turn so much sharper

[@Asspiss100]

Most don't understand how big it was..the airframe was constructed around what is essentially a "small" locomotive turbo and it's piping. it had to be located behind the pilot because it was too big to fit up front

[@TheSuperhomosapien]

It was meant to be a bomber escort. Then when the P-51 came along it found new life as a fighter bomber and CAS. Ironically enough, the P-51 was meant for CAS, but was too fragile to take ground fire and due to its range and dogfighting capabilities it became a good bomber escort. while the Jug, who could absorb all types of damage, filled the role that the P-51 was meant to fill.

[@Grommok]

@@TheSuperhomosapien yes, to escort the Heavy Bombers that flew +15,000 feet.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

Man the Bf 109 just looks bad ass evil somehow.

[@donakahorse]

The P 47 had nearly 4k aerial victories in WW2, you can't do that with a plane incapable of moving. The pilots loved it.

[@AlexanderÖberg-j9n]

It’s not about aerial victories it’s about win to loss ratio. Those numbers are probably pretty skewed if you think about. A plane that is mass produced or made in large numbers will always have a high winning rate.

[@TheVoosters]

The 109 was a better fighter. 15k + kills

[@YourBestFriendforToday]

@@TheVoostersOnly because of the Russians did the number get that high.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

@@YourBestFriendforToday Russia of 1943 same Russia in 2024

[@christx3326]

​@@YourBestFriendforTodayuh huh, explain Hans Joachim Marseilles for starters

[@TheSuperhomosapien]

I saw that intro and started thinking "You are grossly underestimating the P-47".

[@noodlenoggin70]

There's a great book, "Thunderbolt" by Robert Johnson, detailing his experience becoming an Ace in the P47, alongside Francis Gabreski in the 56th Fighter Group in Europe. Some things that stick out from this video -- he always boasted about the P47's "zoom climb," where they'd trade speed for short-term climb, and noted that in the later models when they were fitted with paddle-blade propellers the "zoom" never stopped and they could just hang on the motor and CLIMB. Also many call-outs to the Bf109's wing slats that would creep out in super-slow/super-tight turns and throw the nose off. I'm not sure if DCS has all that in their models...

[@5co756]

You could saw them moving out , but does'nt looked like it changed something . These wing slats helped a lot , that's why the 109 only used the flaps for landing/starting . They were hand cranked .

[@loganproksch9305]

I could watch hours of you guys going at in different planes. Top marks to the both of you.

[@phil_nicholls]

We had an old boy ex P47 pilot at our flying club many years ago. He had been given his choice of aircraft - when asked why he chose the P47, he said it had more armour plating around the pilot than any other type!

[@narce160th]

"I don't know where he's getting this energy from" Saying this just after shotty nosed dived from the heavens

[@Ambaryerno]

The P-47 has fairly decent energy retention, so as long as he's not being hamfisted with the stick he should be able to hold on to his airspeed.

[@97BuckeyeGuy]

These WWII dog fights are just glorious. I love when you're down on the ground fighting. It reminds me of the difference between watching NASCAR vs Formula One racing.

[@dennisa7784]

People in the comments are so focused on fights being fair because they fanboy over certain countries or planes and when they see their plane get whacked they take it personally so they have to defend the loss by saying their favorite plane was disadvantaged in this "test" and its still the best plane. And therefore their choice of prefering it is valid

[@Pikilloification]

It is just a videogame

[@nevervne]

WW2 dogfighting is way more fun to watch than the jet stuff 😁

[@paganarh]

shotgun is such a pro

[@charles_wipman]

That was a well greased hog... nice dogfights.

[@TheSharpeful]

That whistling sound on the 109 engine is so sexy.

[@nath-hh2ff]

Id like to see 109 vs Dora and 51 vs Spit.

[@peterdowney3792]

Please please please more hurricane. That was the most enjoyable video in months. Also, there's a nasty tank buster version of the hurricane with 40mm cannon - that would also be extremely, extremely cool

[@firebald2915]

The original tank buster flying nearly ground level. The two cannons caused the Hurricane to nose dive... Brave pilots.

[@Spikeydelic]

I love your 109 videos man !! they are so good !

[@Easy-Eight]

Like to see you take the "BF" against a Corsair.

[@kellyginter3393]

I think I've watched all the A10 mission videos. Can you make some more?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

soooooooon.

[@GripFast1067]

The energy is coming from Red Bull..."It Gives You Wiings"!!!

[@Acekhan201]

That P47 doing it's best 5th gen impersonation out there, damn!

[@esr243]

It’s like a WWII ballet - great cinematography - and so much more interesting with both sides players

[@RadestpickleETR]

I was scrounging for some p-47. You arrived right on time

[@Notreallyoverit]

Try fighting a FW-190A with a Spitfire V and then a IX.

[@the_giefster]

That ending felt very personal. Haha great job to you and Shotgun!

[@jamesbromstead4949]

To quote Desert Brutality: "We considered Fair, and decided against it."

[@warhawk4494]

Id like the see this dogfight but above 20,000ft. Up there and higher the P-47 could out turn a FW-190.

[@Adam-i5h8f]

Yes! The P47 was designed to fight in the cons. I’ve even seen sources that say the P47 even outperforms the p51 up there.

[@Liisi-t3n]

he has no idea how WW2 was fought in air, he is just foolish youtuber.

[@obiwankenobi1003]

@@Liisi-t3n Willing to wager he is more informed on the subject then you are my guy.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

@@Liisi-t3n aww, you a wumao mad that he always shits on your nation's Temu jets?

[@bobhydro913]

​@@Liisi-t3nnerd

[@bembrin]

It looks like Shotgun is putting in a notch of flaps at times. I wonder what his thought process is there. I feel like it might help in the 1-circle sometimes but it seemed like he was in a 2-circle fight when I noticed it. Not sure I would have thought of that.

[@MTEditz]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="74">1:14</a> that whistle sound from the p47 is just 😩

[@UzairW]

Whether its in WW2 warbirds or modern jets, Shotgun is an absolute beast as an opponent and I hope we continue to have more of him on here! Guns-only dogfights are by far the most interesting content so thank you GS for these recent WW2 fight videos, and also the amazing fast pointy jets gunfights you have done in recent years.

[@Cool_guy-i1u]

Mig-21 vs F-14 It would be like “what if the F-14 was put into service a little faster” (Just remembered there was some videos GS where he did do that)

[@Kilo_1-1]

I think you should do more of these, it's fun to watch you and the guys push their planes and skills to the limit to win the dogfight. I agree, fights aren't fair ever. The whole point of every nation is to build the best plane.

[@gudgengrebe]

That was great. Shotgun is amazing.

[@Sewad_J]

just want you to know. I look forward to your videos everyday!

[@ddewcifer]

Your videos with Shotgun are my favorite, he's insane dude.

[@fdlman93092]

GS: "Shotgun is flying the P-47... why do I hear boss music?"

[@cgilleybsw]

Suggestion - lets see the alternate view of your opponent. I'd love to know what shotgun is trying to do.

[@erloriel]

This guy churns out good videos, like an MK 108 churns out overly explosive shells...

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

U guys keep watching I’ll keep pumping them out. Appreciate you guys much love.

[@GioMarron]

In my humble view, it’s the fact that most fights are unfair that make the similar fighter battles so legendary It’s why people love the X Wing and TIE Fighter battles: imagine one just came in and steamrolled the other? They’d be shite but the X Wimg and TIE Fighter battles are the ME-109 v Spitfires of the movie world and it’s what makes those battles such good viewing on TV years after the events

[@Rufus6540]

My brother was a Viper pilot and said they had absolutely no interest in making fights fair. He basically wanted fights to be as close to clubbing baby seals as he could get.

[@donaldwrightson]

As the Mighty Jingles says: "Fair fights are for suckers." Words to live by!!!!

[@modillo1986]

This was a fight more often than not. This is also why the p51 became the premier fighter of WW2. Army had the mustang and the navy/marines had the Corsair. I'd love to see you and shotgun go toe to toe in the mustang vs Corsair. That'd be interesting

[@elmacko4709]

the jug is actually one of my favorite ww2 plane period XD

[@mikefoster6018]

I love the Thunderbolt. It looks like a cigar and, hell, it fights like one. A hot smokin' beast! Definitely an airplane optimised for high altitude fighting and boomin' and zoomin', not turnin' and burnin'.

[@nikospitr]

i love P-47, i d love to see more close-ups of this wonderful plane

[@badhabits77]

Loving these WWII fights! For a low level North Africa fight, an (early) FW-190A4 / BF109F vs P-40E (Kittyhawk Mk1A) would be fantastic.

[@theandf]

Great fight, and totally agreed about asymmetrical fights. It makes the unexpected victory by the underdog (if it happens) even sweeter.

[@Rhinozherous]

The "unfair" fights are the more interesting in my opinion. As you say, when you are able to squeeze all out of your aircraft and maybe have some luck too, you also can win an "unfair" fight.

[@duaneedwards5439]

Great video! Love the WWII action!

[@HandFromCoffin]

This guy flies between the rounds.. drives me nuts and I'm just watching the video.

[@mothafraker]

Jesus! This kid's good! - Cmdr Mike 'Viper' Metcalf

[@grizzly4736]

Yeah, you don't turn fight in a Jug. You boom-n-zoom, and never let your dive go below your enemy. Dive in, set up your shot, hit or miss you dive away and extend then set up another pass. At least that is what always worked for me using planes like the Jug and Lightning in Aces High 2.

[@towarzyszbeagle6866]

100% this, boom, zoom, extend repeat. The weight works for you using this tactic because you're normally extending away at a speed the target can't match.

[@SHARPSPEED]

Shotgun is like this channel's equivalent of switching to Legendary difficulty.

[@hillbillyreefer8996]

Absolutely love the WW2 series...would love seeing south pacific battles ..when considering all the carriers involved in beyond visual battles it seems rich with scenarios...

[@tedmckenzie4814]

Let's get GS to 1mil

[@jasonanalco542]

Germany learned the hard way to respect the Jug. Especially the Paddle prop version

[@jaggar28]

Shotguns flying style reminds me of a cowboy 🤣

[@Exile-exe]

Life ain’t fair, and neither is war. This is not a tournament.

[@Adam-i5h8f]

The P47 has become my new favorite fighter

[@farkinarkin5099]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="556">9:16</a> What a brilliant move by the Jug-naut (Shotgun?)

[@lwrncschmchr]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="409">6:49</a> GS pissing on Shotgun's grave.

[@adbramsay]

The P-47D was built around it's massive Pratt & Whitney R2800 2000hp engine wedded to a huge 13' 4 bladed Curtiss "paddle" prop. Remember that the P-47D also had WEP an overboost function that dumped a water methanol mix into the motor to help the overboosted engine. I believe in WEP the R2800 was capable of almost 2300hp

[@brealistic3542]

The American ace Zemki used the 47 and had tricks he used to fight 109s. He used the 47s outstanding roll to make it appear he was actually out turning 109s. F 4 pilots fighting Mig 21s used the same trick.

[@codyconger2529]

Two videos in one day! Hell ya my dude🤙

[@A_Lazy_Bori]

he thought you forgot... we never forget 🤣🤣

[@BlindIo42]

"If you're in a fair fight, you aren't cheating enough."

[@danandbaggyshow]

I love the ww2 stuff

[@ret7army]

fairness? No, of course not. Only question is whether or not we dealing with 1941-42, 43 or 44 or 45 era aircraft. Nevertheless the P47s of the 56 Fighter Group in particular did great damage to the 109s, 190s, and 110s of the Luftwaffe. While the P51s coming into their own in late 44 and 45 did their share, it was the P47s that took it on the chin and gave back even greater than they took in the early years.

[@AkiUwUx3]

The "It's not fair" excuse in a realistic Combat Simulator is like the one kid who sucks at the game calling the other team hackers. Considering how the P-51 and P-47 both had to face off against Me-262's more than once, of course it wasn't a fair fight, but it happened.

[@Frydee123]

I have a video idea. Do a fighter generations dogfight, USA vs Russia. Pick a random fighter, starting with WWII props, and go up one generation every round until you reach 5th gen

[@Ankhobo]

I'm sure if Shotgun had actually flown in WWII, his name would be found in the Geneva list of suggestions

[@OH-vb6ww]

If you find yourself in a fair fight, somebody didn’t plan appropriately.

[@GimmeDaBacon]

I’d love to see the super tucano dogfight a p51

[@brandonbennett9220]

Great fights

[@StudSupreme]

From what I understand, the P-47 was successful because of an incredibly powerful engine and a very robust airframe, despite its less than competitive maneuverability.

[@ShoGunGrebby]

The only fair fight is one you're able walk away from when it's over...

[@qcumberpatch]

I wish I could fly the jug like that!

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 178

[@bjrneirikstrkersen1021]

Most aircraft has an engine. On the P47, the engine has an aircraft.

[@JozMkII]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="820">13:40</a> GS just didn't have it in him to be the better man

[@icin4d]

Nice. But when I'm in the Jug and I see a 109, I do what they told Neo - Run. 🤣

[@andiepants1840]

Shotgun is a beast!

[@TheRaptorXX]

Fair? It's surely about one plane versus another plane and see who wins!! That guy is GOOD in that Thunderbolt, fair play to him!!

[@guyderagisch4964]

Jugs also had pilot controlled methanol injection for extra power.