F-86 Sabre Vs Mig-15 Bis | Korean War DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@TheCobra114-o5e]

Now Kill the viper with the f86!

[@gabrielneves6602]

do u have t=a discount for my bekloved warthog?

[@trumanhw]

literally made me laugh out loud. Crashing into his ass in a blaze of glory ey?

[@numberyellow]

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx

[@stopthemadness398]

you weren't leading fair enough so a lot of your round was falling behind him. but you was on point thou

[@subpilot1000]

"Going out in a blaze of glor..." A clip I'm sure we'll enjoy seeing in the next "best deaths" compilation.😜

[@trumanhw]

he literally made me lol. 🤣

[@dairyqueenshake6719]

@@trumanhw same lol

[@myc828]

So he was finally killed by a Mig15 itself correct?

[@h8GW]

@@myc828 And no one's gonna talk about how his exploding Sabre took out that pursuing MiG...

[@RCJJ32]

​@@h8GW he didn't just explode he body slammed that mig on the way out the door

[@judeackland-patel6646]

Love how your content is so frequent now. That and the super consistent quality really makes you rare on this platform. Keep going m8 :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Really appreciate it when people notice the effort, thanks very much.

[@elijahbrown3306]

@@GrowlingSidewinder we love you!!

[@evangalinsky2499]

One of the last versions of the original Sabre, the F-2, had 4x 20mm cannons. The Sabre dog and super Sabres followed with cannons as well.

[@insurgentleman]

sabre dog is probably my favorite derivation, such a cool plane

[@ahdfuoa]

The Australian-made CAC Sabres also traded in their .50 cals for a pair of 30mm cannons.

[@BJDansie]

@@ahdfuoa and a Rolls Royce Avon engine making 50% more thrust.

[@ianrabbas9618]

Aussie Avon Sabre had 2-30mm Aden cannon....

[@Archer89201]

Them 20mm Sabres were used by Pakistan against India in 1965 and 1971 wars

[@sandseasentinel8785]

Good flying! At 9:05, I think he took a hit from AAA that knocked off his wing.

[@mikethompson2650]

Agreed I look at it twice and that seems to be happened.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

I thought so too but, it’s hard to discount the possibility that he overstressed his wing after GS shot it up.

[@sandseasentinel8785]

@@mikemontgomery2654 Yeah, that is still absolutely a possibility. It just happens right as the AAA tracers go by, so I think that's more likely.

[@ScabNainz]

Agreed! I saw 4 tracers come in, and 3 tracers leave.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

@@sandseasentinel8785 Yeah. I think that's most likely, as well.

[@danoflex1875]

hell yeah man love the old school stuff, was watching some old ww2 gun cams then went back to some of your ww2 content and it was awesome,gotta love that up close and personal deflection shooting. would love to see a return to some old dogfights!

[@peterzag3140]

its always fun to go back in time and see where fighters came from.

[@ggennette2591]

While serving in South Korea in 1979 the ROKAF was still using the F86 along with the F5 Freedom fighter. When I arrived there I thought I had gone into the wayback machine.

[@AQ.Gimpalong]

This is the early jet age content the masses yearn and cry out for.

[@N8TheSnake]

@5:28 "Rough day at the office for that guy" 🤣🤣🤣

[@romainlavoie1526]

Bro's ! Leave it GS to leave in a blaze of GLORY !!! Very nice fight !!!

[@Nyxx2115]

I would absolutely love to see the A-4 thrown into the mix. F-86 vs A-4 and mig 15 vs A-4 sounds like it could be some fun fights

[@caleblarsen5490]

Man, the fact that you churn super good videos one after another is honestly super impressive. So many other combat sim guys on KZbin, and most of them only have one or two good videos because they're not putting in your effort. I so enjoy your content. Keep it up!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you man, really appreciate it when people notice the effort that goes into the channel. Much Love

[@guccidan2026]

LMAO. These kind of videos CANNOT end with a GS death. Love it.

[@secret3006]

9:07 it looks like AAA hit him and took the wing

[@billythebread1162]

thats what i was thinking

[@Chef_PC]

You really need a GS logo on that pilot’s helmet. It would look so cool in the mirror of that Sabre.

[@ribsi85]

I love these ones with the older stuff just as much as the more modern stuff. The cockpits with the old analogue dials and stuff gives me a weird sort of "this doesn't look at all f'n safe" anxiety, in a good way, I love it.

[@awger90210]

Must be an age-thing. I have a 2018 Lincoln that's half electronic and half magic... the gas pedal isn't connected to the engine, and the stearing wheel isn't connected to the stearing rack... and THAT gives me the willies. Much prefer my old Jeep, where everything is bolted together like it should be.

[@robertmiles9942]

@@awger90210 Yep.. but let me tell you about the times throttle cables have jammed in my cars (vw bug) and motorcycles (CB750 and FZ1!)

[@ribsi85]

@@awger90210 Yeah I can imagine it's probably a 'what you're more used to' sort of thing maybe.

[@awger90210]

@@robertmiles9942 Got WD40? :) I had the throttle stick on an Audi 5000... idle solenoid freaked out. Good thing it was a stick. Throttle on the K1300 is a little wonky, but not sticky.

[@awger90210]

@@ribsi85 Yeah... and a lot of "crotchety old geezer." I like my Bonanzas with V-tails, too. No such thing as a free lunch... everything breaks at some point, so pick your own failure mode.

[@lordhickory3322]

Thats some memorable last words: „I‘m going out in a blaze of Glor-“

[@RandallRoman]

Love the old-school 1st gen jets, I'd love to see more of them. I know it isn't a close match, but have you done the P-51 vs Mig-15? It is vaguely historical as they both served in Korea, though the P-51 for ground attack, not air-to-air. When it comes out, how about the Corsair?

[@ethanmcfarland8240]

corsairs fought mig-15s......and won

[@daszieher]

​@@ethanmcfarland8240 because of better pilot training and situation. Normally, the Corsair (however mighty it once was) wouldn't stand a chance.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

@@daszieher Corsair can turn tighter than a jet - so - if you see them in time - you can turn into them - and then they are flying into your fire. Here - the Corsair is probably more rugged than a jet. The big thing - is you have to see them and turn into them. If you don't see them then you have a problem. .

[@daszieher]

@@BobSmith-dk8nw the faster jet can play cat and mouse with the slower Corsair. At will. Which is why Corsairs were ultimately replaced by 1st gen jets.

[@SPFLDAngler]

I would consider the F-86 in DCS as a Gen 1+

[@melgillham462]

I was delivering a load of scrap tires on the south east side of St Louis one time, and theres an air port on the inside of the LEO. They have an actual classic F-86 that flies out of there. I got to see it landing. Beautiful air craft.

[@allenarneson4349]

GS - You sitting up high and ready to steal their soul - Is just like what the Red Baron did in WW1 You were doing great right up to the point of going out in a blaze of glory!!! Love your comments and tactical flying.

[@timsullivan4566]

The Sabre v MIG-15 Korean war dogfights are so basic and easy to follow, making them a great intro to the DCS world, imho.

[@nikbear]

This was awesome! 👌 my favorite era in jet history, the Sabre just looks beautiful, so sleek from every angle, this was a joy to watch 👍 ☺

[@tokenride04]

Great timing! I just finished watching one of your older Sabre vs Mig fights.

[@Irskin]

That one kill at about 9:10, he got hit by his own AAA. :D

[@RagsHSC-7]

Omg! Yeah yes sir you went out in the blazing glory took him with you. Loved it! ! I am a straight up WW2 historian loved it!❤🕊️🕊️🕊️ Your tactical maneuvers were very much in the same as it was in Korea. Primitive radar at the time would track the low birds and while the axis is fixated on the low birds, the high birds would come down like hawks sweep in and take them out. Very authentic and correct 💯 great job brother! Thank you

[@probablyjay3449]

another classic matchup, love to see those, i'm pretty sure he did a dogfight against the mig15 in the sabre a couple years back too

[@grizzly4736]

Woa! How weird. I literally just shut down my DCS from flying some retraining flights in my F-86 , opened YT and this was the first video I saw. BTW, it has been almost a year since I last flew in DCS and wanted to get back into my Sabre Jet. Going to re-start Hunters Over The Yalu once I have refamiliarized myself with this beauty.

[@ChurchAdam79]

I really like the style of those early jets. They just look really cool.

[@urgentsiesta7606]

great fight - thank you for keeping a variety of eras in the rotation.

[@Chris_Hood]

Been watching so much recent content I momentarily forgot 1 Circle/2 Circle rate fights of gun armed no missiles combat

[@ПавелРапопорт]

Longshot: use the force, GS GS: **switching off lead computer**

[@Killflap]

Great video. Thank you very much. It's nice to see older aircraft again. I'd love to see more of them (WW2, Korea).

[@SHARPSPEED]

"Goin' out in a blaze of glor--" *KABOOM* fuck I love this channel.

[@Andres-yc7cy]

9:07 the AA actually got him lol

[@warshrike666]

Robbie Risner the Mig Alley Ace used to call the Sabre his little sports car. I used to sit on the wing of 1 of the display RAAF Sabre's at RAAF Base Wagga waiting for the bus to take us to school. Was and always will be my favourite jet of all time. Even tho i got to sit in and play around f111's the Sabre was always the best to a young boy now a old man lol.

[@410sFinest]

I'm ridiculously glad I found your channel

[@miguelruiz8183]

More early century series fighter content is what we need!!!

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

The US tried to integrate the Hispano cannons used in British warplanes like the Spitfire, but we never could get it working reliably. If you've ever seen the Mustang lend-leased to the Brits with the cannons strapped on, you see these muzzles sticking out from the wings, it's like the airborne version of the Sherman Firefly. The cannon was bigger and heavier than the Browning Ma Deuce, and cannon ammo was bigger than the .50 so you had fewer rounds at full loadout.

[@felipeduarte1997]

What are you doing moving the joystick on the stick at @0:22?? Love the vids!!

[@Appreciation-Community]

Been catching up on your videos man this one was sick. Your editing is very good. Love the ending how you just suicide onto that guy and dont say anything else in the video made me lol.

[@miketwain202]

F-86 greatness! After watching your videos every single day since I found your channel I’ve really enjoyed the WWII, F-86, the Century Series, and Vietnam era planes. Oh, and throw in the Tom because of course throw in the Tom! I don’t know the DCS roster for the 100s, I have seen you fly the Starfighter, but I’m really interested what that looks like. I can only guess how suspenseful an F-105 mission is dodging SAMs all the way to Hanoi. If DCS hasn’t done it they should.

[@realitysux_0128]

Why is literally NOBODY talking about the fact that we all just witnessed GS become an Ace right before our eyes?👀🇺🇸 See citation below: 03:20 04:55 07:36 08:55 10:30 You’re all welcome🙌🏼

[@imellor711]

Your two videos cover these Korean gaints, which makes me think that I don't fly either my F-84 Sabre or Mig-15 modules enough. Great videos.

[@jonesy279]

Excellent video! I love the Sabre and would love to see more. I wish you could have the option for our Australian CAC-27, often called the Avon Sabre. It replaced the engine with the Rolls-Royce Avon and swapped the 6x .50s with 2x 30mm ADEN cannons. I’d love to see it simulated and what you could do with it!!

[@1armstrong607]

I love the old school jet fights! Keep up the great content and positive attitude.

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

It's my understanding that the F-86 was intended to have 20 mm cannons but the shock of firing the cannons caused engine/compressor problems. This was eventually overcome with the F-86F.

[@blase1407]

Those mig rounds are jumpscares lol I can’t imagine how you feel. Awesome ending too

[@aaronbertini9714]

If I ever get in the mood to just fly in DCS, this is my go to jet. Such a joy

[@Raz.C]

I'd still LOVE to see a dogfight between a Mustang and a Corsair!! P-51 Mustang vs an F-4u Corsair. The two aircraft have only ever fought each other once, back in the 60s. The Corsair dominated the Mustang. I'd like to see them fight it out on DCS!!

[@KillerKev1961]

Dude, that was epic! Nice midair!!!!

[@ColinJ88]

Admirable bang and zoom tactics.

[@billykorando]

That’s one way to become an ace in a single mission.

[@bros4life98]

Love the content! I watch every video. Going back to some of these older styles of planes, I would be very interested to see you fly the P-51 against the ME-262, I briefly browsed and didn't see this was a match-up I have seen you do before? I would really like to see it!

[@r77oliver]

I imagine that last Mig driver was like "ok, we got him, now check 6 (looks behind) we're clear, WHA"(end transmission) lol

[@wraith444]

10:47 YOU'VE GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING

[@Saffi____]

Hey question those lines on the side of his cockpit window on 0:47, what exactly are those and what is its purpose?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

dive angles. you line them up with the horizon.

[@Saffi____]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Thank you very much.

[@metallikris]

Best last stand ever.

[@georgevanhoose6333]

St. Peter: "How did you get so close to the enemy MiG?" GS: "I was inverted."

[@timsullivan4566]

Wow - you have a really good eye to tell them apart from such a distance! (btw - I call the MIG-15 "chubby-stubby", but not to his face)

[@evanohlsten7814]

better than what NATO called it lol

[@timsullivan4566]

@@evanohlsten7814 Which was...?

[@Directrix_Gazer]

For me it's the far less tapered wing planform of the MiG-15 that sticks out.

[@enochlearns6132]

That ending was epic. Great show once again. Keep the vids coming. Can't wait to get involved. Much respect.

[@iamdarkrider4]

I really enjoy your videos. Excellent descriptions as it goes. Love when you call out your own errors, nicely done.

[@robinmottart3859]

this duel never get old!

[@michaelgriffin1601]

That last play for the midair 😂😂😂

[@grisslebear]

GS: Always remember... if you can't shoot or outrun your enemy, tackling IS an option.

[@theforzagamer3880]

Could you try doing the P80 shooting star vs the Me 262, they are two early jet fighters that never got to go face to face

[@robbabcock_]

Awesome video! It's cool to see those early jets in action.🛩🔥👏

[@halodude4481]

I’m so happy ur doing more vids on these older aircraft they are so fun to watch fight

[@robinh82d]

I love how in the end that mig just watched him friend get mid air collisioned

[@billisaacs702]

You went out in a blaze of Korean Barbecue. Right on.

[@groton5376]

Bro cool gameplay but also thanks for helping me get to sleep (not in a mean way) this was also quite calming

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

lol no problem thanks for watching, happy to be of service.

[@sabtgamingza6927]

Hey GS, check your mirror between 07:53 - 07:59 of this video.

[@calneigbauer7542]

Love the seeing you fly older jets would be awesome to see some prop ww2 videos does dcs have a f4u model?

[@Rundumsfliegen]

Not yet, but as far as I know there will be one

[@wren7195]

He's got some WWII vids on the channel somewhen, both German and British props. If you've not seen them I highly recommend you run them down and give 'em a watch m8.

[@TimberwolfCY]

lol that damn 15 just sorta lazing along, like 'Hey therrrre buddy, could ya use a freeeiiinnnnnnddd?'

[@codychild2665]

GS, working smarter, not harder. 👍

[@rudelchw]

Great video ... glad to see some F-86 combat ... very enjoyable, thanks for sharing.

[@JohnDoe-fo7yi]

Ngl I was hard judging you when you were missing a bunch of shots and yelled "pull more lead! more lead!!" and you called out not to judge you...and I felt bad hahaha

[@gonnabeadoctorsoon2]

LMMFAO!!! Take one more out with you!! Only Growling Sidewinder kills Growling Sidewinder.

[@mehrdad4784]

I hope we see folland gnat on DCS one day. it was the simplest jet fighter back when jets were simple.😅😅

[@rocketpunchgo1]

F-86 in MiG Alley... my request! Can't believe I missed it lol Thanks though GS!

[@andrewwillard5625]

Omg I think that mig where you though he ripped his wing it looked like anti air got a lucky hit.😂

[@mineplow1000]

Always think of just how amazing it must have felt for the old prop pilots to strap on jet engines and become the speed demon-death dealers they could only dream of just a few years prior.

[@macgyver186]

The Mig that you hit when you both were in a dive looked like it got hit by AAA.

[@greenmagic8ball198]

More WW2 & Korea stuff! Love it

[@novavolex5568]

"I'm going out in blaze of glory!" ROLF! :D

[@nuclearhunter227]

I have to say that i like your Thumbnails! They look great!

[@Anti-First-army]

11:10 a blaze of glory indeed

[@mikemontgomery2654]

Lmao! That last fight, after you got shot up, I guess the guy didn’t think you were dead enough?

[@siestatime4638]

Von Richtofen's favorite strategy was similar to yours; he'd hang out above the rest of his flight and dive on lower stragglers.

[@cuabcomstad]

Love the saber. The Ole John Glenn special.

[@DeathPenny]

You made Ace on that mission - 5 Migs for 1 Sabre and pilot - beauty aye

[@EwaRymowicz]

❤awesome. Breathtaking. Thank you

[@usauk3605]

Your videos are the best, I love seeing the older aircraft dogfights, no missiles, all skill and positioning. Do you think you could do some more Focke Wulf 190D9 content, that plane is such a classic.

[@plutus205]

Dude I am tripping out right now I literally just watched a documentary about "Mig Alley" last night.

[@texasknight5175]

I love these gun fights. I almost wish fighters never progressed past this stage…

[@duncanstevens2631]

Love the F-86 vids! It’s been too long!

[@barbarossa1234]

I love the Korean War era dogfighting the best.

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!

[@rambler8870]

Personally, I think there was a missed opportunity for the .50 cal round. I'm not saying the 20mm isn't more powerful. I'm just saying the .50 is a devastating round too. It just wasn't firing fast enough. I mean, it's fine when being used by ground troops shooting at something moving no faster than a vehicle can move, but, a jet could literally fly between the rounds due to the slow firing rate. The .50 (especially if using armor piercing-incendiary rounds) can punch through armored vehicles with ease. If they had designed a .50 caliber rotary cannon like they did for the 20mm (AKA: the M61 Vulcan), you could cut some planes in half with ease using .50 caliber rounds. I mean, look how devastating the Minigun is with its insane firing rate, and it's only 7.62mm rounds coming out of that thing. Lol. Great video, as always. This is definitely one of my favorite channels on KZbin.

[@megalamanooblol]

F-84 Thunderjet and M3 HMG, almost twice the fire rate compared to M2s if memory serves. There was a more dakka per second option, but I think at that point it was decided that ammo weight for enough time on trigger makes 20mm much more efficient.

[@awger90210]

ROF of an individual Browning .50 cal was greater than ROF for an individual 20/23/37mm cannon... muzzle velocity of the .50 is higher than the cannon rounds... and the F-86 carried six .50s as compared to the MiGs two 23mm and single 37mm. By any measurement, the F-86 is putting out a MASSIVELY higher volume of fire (number of individual projectiles over time). The "problem" is that standard .50 ball tended to poke holes in things, and cannon rounds tend to rip things apart. The GE Vulcan M61 (20mm rotary cannon) is derived from a series of multi-barrel rotary guns that have been chambered for almost every cartridge imaginable, from .22 LR to 30mm ... including... (you guessed it) .50 cal ... see GAU-19. The choice is Probability of Hit (single round) vs Probability of Kill (single round). Prior to 1950, the trade-off favored the .50 cal ... after 1950 (with improvments in cannon ROF and ballistics) it favored to 20mm. Additionally, DCS has well-known and often argued issues with the .50s on the F-86 that leave it at a disadvantage against the MiG-15 (check the DCS forums).

[@rambler8870]

@@awger90210 I was mainly referring to using a rotary cannon like the Vulcan that I mentioned. I'm aware of the GAU-19. However, it's only a 3 barrel rotary. Which is nothing to laugh at, but, it's ROF is about 4,000 rpm vs the Minigun and the Vulcan having six barrels and having a ROF of up to 6,000 rpm. I feel like if a six barrel version for the .50 would have been made to get it's ROF up to around 6,000 like the other two, it would have been even more effective. That's all I was saying. I wasn't really arguing one way or the other. Personally, I like them all. 🤣

[@High_Alpha]

Well that's upping the ante... He asks you to hold some 23mm and you asked him to hold the entire F86!