Strict Rules UPS Drivers Really Have To Follow

[@Suhhdew]

You’re right about them being on top of drivers every second of the day. I got fired for “stealing time” because I went to a grocery store to use the bathroom. The truth is they didn’t like that I wasn’t running and killing myself. Luckily I got my job back with back pay.

[@Guitar157]

Haha you call union?

[@newmanc6619]

You should have used a jammer so that your bathroom trip would not be dectectef

[@reginaldward7488]

I hope you thanked God first and the union second.

[@Guitar157]

@@reginaldward7488 that’s right

[@Suhhdew]

@@reginaldward7488 I would be dead before I thanked the union. They wanted me out just as much as the company.

[@Sal_lazaro]

If you are expecting a package that REQUIRES A SIGNATURE come to the door ASAP we will bounce in like 20 seconds !!!!

[@BigFarts0]

Wow you give em 20? That’s generous

[@jaystarr6571]

I came in 15 and they left it on the ground anyway.

[@luke2049]

I got a beagle howling as soon as u step foot on my yard, and my rare orders are like Christmas to me and beat them to the door so excifed. 70%love me 30% hate me cause my howling dog. Just gotta make the haters hate I guess and live my best life with a beagle alarm.

[@angelgjr1999]

We at amazon don’t bother with signatures.

[@lil_sumpinsi9961]

I just used to leave that shit

[@rogerbrandt6678]

My buddy works there, guys a frigging hard worker, please let couriers in in traffic they have a hell of a hard job.

[@bcvids9]

I always do👍

[@rogerbrandt6678]

@@bcvids9 I do also. I couldn’t deal with the public, no way. But they do have a awesome pension. But they have to work till 60, if anything guys should group up and don’t go for a raise for a few years but be able to retire after 30 years, come on guys.

[@vikings844]

@@rogerbrandt6678 They do retire after 30 years at any age.

[@lexbeltran1354]

I do.

[@brianralston1579]

@@vikings844 25 years

[@HappyHands.]

Dear UPS drivers. we sure do appreciate you work.

[@tiptop8584]

Started as a delivery driver in San Francisco 1979. A much simpler time. No cell phones, no GPS trackers and all delivery parcels were hand written on clip boards with carbon paper. Lots of COD cash on deliveries, easy to collect north of $500 daily. No parcel weighed over 50 lbs! Still a parcel service not a freight company. No FedEx yet, no next day air just UPS and the US mail delivery trucks on the streets. Hitting my 10 year safe driving award was an not easy driving in San Francisco, hills and all trucks with manual transmissions. So many stories and memories. The frustration between drivers and stupidvisiors was a daily hell. I still tell ups drivers to not be a rabbit on delivery if you want to last. Long retired, I never wear brown or own a brown vehicle.

[@martyjoseph9507]

I've found that brown is a good color to wear while changing the car oil, or similar. Those were good times compared to today with the camera watching you drive, one could easily fudge the left building time and first stop time if needed once in a while. An extra mile on my 11 mile route did wonders for the numbers to keep the dragons happy. And the best place to hide from them was right in the building while they searched your route for you, not possible today with gps. When they got rid of the carbon paper I knew it was going to get rougher, and told the happy guy training me on DiAD exactly so. "Soon ALL the packages will have speedy barcodes and you won't have to write down all those numbers"... To which I replied "will I be done sooner or have 30 more stops heaped upon me?" He looked like that was the first time he was asked that.

[@resurrectionsunday]

I hear ya tip.. I started in 1980 to 1998..

[@916commons]

@@resurrectionsunday1986-2008, then the left Achilles went boing… drove school bus after that. Thanks UPS 😂

[@MrItalianfighter1]

I bought a 2 tone, brown house and immediately painted it a different color!! I have absolutely no brown in the house! If I could, I would move to Georgia because they have red dirt, not brown!!😂😂😂😂

[@KeithHouchens]

@@martyjoseph9507 Yep the faster you go the more work you got.

[@pamelat.3431]

Inter-grad was the most INTENSE training I HAD EVER EXPERIENCED. I thought they were crazy, checking the pleats in our pants and looking in our boots to make sure we had on black or UPS approved socks. I loved being a driver just not the BS management put you through. Video was very much on point.

[@louisinese]

Most companies like chic fil a you can only order uniform stuff with a code, I knew it was real when the UPS socks were up for sale brand new with a single google search 😂

[@johngault1197]

Orion killed the left turn stuff but the general public has no clue how hard we work as UPS drivers.

[@bill-nj6fc]

whoe cares

[@25mfd]

@@bill-nj6fc who cares??????... hell I DO... i got a package coming in a few weeks

[@jwhite0074]

Orion is the dumbest thing they’ve come up with thus far.

[@bill-nj6fc]

Ups drivers think there the only one's that work hard, others work a lot harder and don't make 39.00 hr, suck it up or go pump gas for a living, no said you to work at ups

[@bill-nj6fc]

@himura kenshin soon i hope

[@mrtjbiga1784]

the whole " stealing time" thing is micro managing horse shit

[@Spacegoat92]

Yep!! Work an hour past the end of your shift unpaid and they don't say a thing. Check your phone for 2 seconds and they give you the time theft lecture. I used to work for a company like that.

[@robf4512]

@@Spacegoat92 Union employees are paid by the minute. I've never heard of anyone at UPS ever working for free. They do get crazy with the stealing time accusations though. Clocking out at a further away time clock will get you in trouble if you do it enough.

[@Spacegoat92]

@@robf4512 I was on an hourly rate where I worked. Management was happy to give everyone the time theft lecture while they stood around drinking coffee.

[@robf4512]

@@Spacegoat92 The pay rate is hourly for union workers. However, if you worked 3 hours and 42 minutes, you get paid for 3 hours and 42 minutes. Management is different. They are salary, not hourly. Part time supervisors get paid for 27 and a half hours a week unless they work longer than that, then they get paid more.

[@bobgulling3340]

@@robf4512 drivers are guaranteed 8 hours.

[@wolfman72495]

My dad has worked for UPS for over 40 years. Every rule in this video is accurate. My dad worked his way up, from sorting packages in the hub to driving an 18-wheeler (not technically 18, but close enough). He is very much looking forward to the day that he can retire and never have to set foot on UPS property again

[@stejer211]

What a depressing waste of life.

[@sambo1142]

You make it sound like 40 years in hell

[@wolfman72495]

The benefits he’s received since he started working there haven been worth it. Not to mention the reputation he’s built there

[@livefree2881]

@@stejer211 🤣😂😅🏆

[@stejer211]

@@wolfman72495 A reputation as a doormat?

[@ibrahimcehajic]

They don't trust their drivers to make correct decision, those managers and bosses should deliver the packages themselves.

[@JohnSmith-rn5tb]

Yeah,they'd run their butts off for a day or two,then THEY WOULD BITCH AND MOAN AND WANT UNION PROTECTION!!!

[@7stringst3r]

They should be sent on half heavy commercial half projects route with about +50 upstairs residential stops to break em in good…. Wimps

[@JohnSmith-rn5tb]

@@7stringst3r when I had a heavy Mall/ industrial route,on vacation they would cut part of my route so sub driver could finish in 81/2 hrs- yet and supervisor would literally take a helper and or run his ass off all day to finish what I did steadily working hard- but told me I could cut 1/ 2 hour off my day- such Bullsh@@!!!

[@dennymangan7385]

Has not changed since I started in 1972. Always hard work and drivers have always been time Studied. By the way most managers where once drivers. Best pay in the business.

[@MrMontel69]

Funny story. My 2nd year working as a PVD we had a crazy blizzard( Northern CA) and it dumbed for about 2 weeks. We had some delays in the feeder driver making it to town but in the beginning roads were still passable. Apparently my supervisor explained the conditions to the higher ups and instructed them to only send well seasoned drivers no greenhorns and of course they did exactly that and the feeders didn't make it to town. We'll to punish these managers or whatever they ordered them to help us catch up because we were so behind. Every one of these so called managers had never done a delivery route and I swear to God the most talkative and in the way. We were seasonal helpers yelling at them to get the fuck outta the way with those exact words lol

[@JessicaReinke]

The peeing in water bottles thing is completely true

[@MrPlanner12]

Oh yes lol seen many bottles with special lemonade in the bin when the day is over

[@livesfrenzy]

The contract allows for you to cut trace to find a restroom while still being paid. No reason to pee in a bottle.

[@robf4512]

@@livesfrenzy Tell that to the driver in my hub that took a shit in a tote box. I cried laughing when that tote got unloaded onto a slide and supervisors stopped the main table and called on the radio for hazardous cleanup.

[@danielsalas6269]

@@livesfrenzy I'm a ups driver and I don't wanna spend 5 mins here and 5 mins there finding a toilet. My empty water bottle is fine

[@oldupsdrvr3603]

My route was 95% residential. I used bottles frequently, but never left them on the truck. The alternative was spending 15-30 mins going to a restroom. 15-30 mins I could spend at home. Never took a dump in the truck though.

[@BaileyDBeetle]

Peeing in bottles is 100% true! Left hand turns are allowed, and go to the bathroom when you stop for gas? We don’t stop for gas during the day. We have to do it at night after our last delivery otherwise we’re stealing time.

[@brandondirocco9816]

We only have diesel pumps on our lot so if you got a gas truck you don't really have a choice

[@vwluvin9164]

Drivers don’t usually fuel their trucks most hubs have car wash ppl that wash and fuel them daily.

[@BaileyDBeetle]

@@vwluvin9164 not at our hub. We fill up at gas stations in the afternoon when we’re done. My package car hasn’t been washed in a year either. Haha

[@dondressel452]

Ridiculous

[@dennymangan7385]

Yep.package cars used to be washed every day….sometimes by hand. If you scratched your paint you were in big trouble

[@johnnyeas1431]

UPS is one of the worst jobs I've ever worked, and that says something because I've worked in dozens of different fields. I couldn't even stop to take a lunch break because of the 450+ packages UPS gave me to deliver each day. And they needed all 450 packages to be delivered in 12 hours max. UPS management does not view their drivers as humans beings, but they view them as money making machines. I thank Jesus that I no longer need to work for UPS

[@bugsta2012]

You’ll be back lol they always come back 👹

[@tenidaska9984]

@@bugsta2012 why is that? im just curious

[@z-reviews3706]

I did that job 2 years ago. I didn’t mind the job itself but hated my management team. I’m a truck driver at XPO Logistics now. Really good company, you just have to be willing to put in a lot of hours

[@carib5423]

What exactly does XPO haul? They have a terminal near me.

[@antoniohoward981]

@@carib5423there all over major cities

[@K27fan]

This is pretty accurate. I worked there 41 years: 7 P/T in the hub, 3 as a package car driver and 31 in Feeder (tractor trailers). I was fired in 1985 because I had the nerve to take my wife to the hospital when she went into labor. My manager had told me "real men dont go into a delivery room, you will be here doing your job". Well the next day I came to work and he fired me for taking 1 minute too long on lunch. I was off work for two weeks until the Union met with them and the details came out. Great money, great benefits but total assholes to work for. Every driver I know has a horror story of abuse.

[@Lifegoesonbrahh]

oh damn it's just like USPS

[@JohnSmith-rn5tb]

Absolutely the UPS WAY OF TREATING WORKERS!! My wife was emergency hospitalized,and she called the Center ( we had 2 kids under 4)- told her they wouldn't be able to find me- on my afternoon pickup schedule 1/2 mile from Center - she told them the POLICE WOULD FIND ME- they sent a Mgr and got me in couple minutes!! Freaking INHUMAN AHOLES!!16 years a hard- working employee- they treat u like crap regargless,bro!!!

[@K27fan]

@@JohnSmith-rn5tb I hear ya brother. I had friends who were in bad wrecks, and management would not call their spouse until much later in the day. And the sad thing is that every driver has a story like this, it's not just a couple isolated incidents. They are so tone deaf when it comes to how to treat people. Glad I worked there, the money and benefits were great. But really glad Im out.

[@JohnSmith-rn5tb]

@@K27fan yeah,it is tragic that they treat humans this way- although at one point we had a decent center Mgr who didn't behave like this- of course he got transferred out quickly!!They seemed to relish treating even Mgr like crap!!

[@gaythugsmatter7029]

Lies

[@bigdaddyleroy1915]

as a UPS employee for over 26 years I have seen the evolution of management at UPS from experienced management interested in safe efficient workers to zero experienced greedy managers interested in stealing the life of its employees. its disgusting. they would rather write you up for taking a piss on the clock, than find reasonable solutions to problems. I love the job, the people on my route, but i am considering retiring early and getting a different job simply because of the sheer stupidity of management.

[@frankboykin3940]

Loving the new diads

[@bigdaddyleroy1915]

@@frankboykin3940that doesn't help, but i understand the new diads. i don't place the blame of the stupidity surrounding the new diads, that blame goes on upper management.

[@ItsBriiiiii]

Any semblance of "united parcel service" left in 2007 when they went public....remember the turkeys employees used to get, when those went away in 2009? 2008? and they were replaced with vouchers, you knew the "family" was dead

[@bigdaddyleroy1915]

@@ItsBriiiiii yeah we don't even get the voucher anymore. all mgt id worried about these days is the numbers.

[@ItsBriiiiii]

@@bigdaddyleroy1915 UPS could be a decent company to work for, but the greedy, corrupt union craps on any chance of it. When I left in 2019, our local union #25 took entire paychecks of *seasonal employees* for initiation fees; not sure you heard about it, but was in the news. At Christmas, they had $0 paychecks. They are disgusting. Can't blame UPS for being what it is with the worthless union and those six figure salaries, blood sucking members

[@jamesm4992]

Worked for UPS 11 years and these are 100% accurate. I would share these rules and others with friends and family that didn't work there and they thought I was exaggerating.

[@Highgear145]

100% true because I work there too

[@jcspaz4l]

Yeah man All Good Kids Like Milk....and you better know that because youre gonna get tested randomly by your safety manager while your trying to organize your truck at 830 in the morning because your preload guy was high, drunk, and didn't care

[@kylelee618]

Can you tell me if the driving test involve cones or just driving on rode

[@renategreen1582]

​@@kylelee618 they have an obstacle course at integrad with fake pedestrians, houses, bicycles, children. you drive a ups package car with fake packages and deliver to fake houses, apartments, drop boxes. there is even a fake loading dock you back up to. You also take it out on the actual road and drive while saying out loud what you are doing ex: "I see a stale green light, my point decision is at that tree, I'm looking left, right, and left again before clearing this intersection.. I'm leaving a 3 car length space cushion between me and the car in front of me." They even quiz you on safyey protocols while you drive. it's really intense I've never experienced anything like it. it's like military grade training but for delivering packages

[@MatthewChenault]

@@jcspaz4l, this is incorrect… The _Supervisor_ is loading the package car at 0830 after he had three employees walk out on the same day.

[@KillerAlmond]

I just quit working for amazon as a driver, the claim about pissing in the trucks is true. On your first day you go on a ride along and the person training you explains things like that. There's alot of bullshit that goes with that job, plus the occasional close call mauling encounters with dogs.

[@charlesgreer7641]

So maybe you can answer a question. I drive a big truck and ive passed and unloaded next to Amazon places. Why do they line the trucks up and release them all in a big wave. Why not just leave when you get there and head out on your route. Ive seen them line up then a person waves them out in a big line. Seems that causes traffic problems for the first few miles as they all split off in different directions.

[@russell5078084]

If you have problems with dogs bring a bag of bacon flavor doggie treats. Works 98% of the time. Been delivering packages for over 28 years. Nipped a few times, never bitten.

[@olivierauberger]

@@charlesgreer7641 Two reasons : 1)safety. Trucks are too close to each other and the whole lane needs to move. 2)logistics. Each DSP is responsible for the cargo of 30 vans so all the vans need to be loaded before we leave.

[@dennisceaser2673]

I carry a czp10c on route

[@dennisceaser2673]

Terminated? Who cares under 25 with 100k+ net worth

[@jackschaefer7751]

I worked for UPS freight. We drive semi trucks and ups expected us to run our semi’s like a package car! So insane! Ups will drive a sane man insane if you let them.

[@mikeshirer8198]

Well, the Freight drivers won’t have to worry about that anymore. Good luck with your new owners

[@Robert-po8jn]

FedEx has tried that with Freight as well.

[@at2130]

They don't say go postal for nothing

[@jmtz5235]

Bro u might be a dam Rookie once u have experience on big rig is lil driving a car stop crying I get nervous driving on city I whose to be truck driver class A I never got lost I run 48 state city local I never had any issues so driver are idiots

[@kensingtonchapp4819]

I'm a locomotive engineer for a large railroad and the UPS obsession with saving time extends to us as well. Whenever I get a train with UPS trailers on board, we drive our trains like we stole them. Our dispatchers almost always route us around non-UPS trains and make every other train wait. UPS has a delivery guarantee with my railroad where they aren't charged for haulage if the train is late to the destination.

[@kylerbriskey372]

I’m a conductor. I can attest this.

[@kensingtonchapp4819]

@@kylerbriskey372 don't you just love it when you're stopped at a red and the DS says you'll be there awhile waiting on a Z train? Lol (i don't know if your railroad calls them Z trains, but mine does haha)

[@MrBlacky602]

Big reason we are trying to leave the rail

[@kensingtonchapp4819]

@@MrBlacky602 wait, UPS is trying to leave rail service because we expedite all their loads and refund them for late ones? Then again, a large number of UPS trains wind up late anyway, so I digress. To be fair, most of the late loads aren't the fault of the railroad. It's usually circumstantial or incidental delays like weather, or intermodal rail shipments reaching the terminals in time to be loaded onto our trains. But yeah, i still don't blame UPS.

[@jneusbaum3697]

Kensington Chapp. Darn Z trains.

[@charlesschrader2988]

I worked there as a package car driver for 28 years it was hell on earth. I knew 3 drivers that had nervous break downs and 2 center management people that blow there brains out. Always pressure to work faster. Always being watched never told that you did a good job. just get more stops per hour the next day always more. And yes I had to pee in a bottle most of us did at some time.

[@HenryPaulThe3rd]

What was the pay like?

[@charlesschrader2988]

Back then $50,000, and super insurance and $2,800 a month pension. But the job was pure hell.

[@amd1273]

@@charlesschrader2988 it's more now, and all that stress is worth the money cuz you can work other jobs with the same stress making significantly less

[@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind]

You don't work to hear compliments. If you don't hear any criticism, take that as the compliment.

[@charlesschrader2988]

@@KristaldeauCityLights Both were demoded I was told one had $700,000 in UPS stock. The pressure to get more stops out of each drivers per year never stops. Never

[@IowaKim]

I live way out in the country on a gravel road. I can hear the UPS driver coming up the road welll over a half a mile away so I greet him at the driveway to help him get on his way quicker. Those square trucks really create a dust vortex that lingers in the air for quite a while.

[@mightywalrus6414]

😂😂

[@dk50b]

One I learned as a holiday time Driver Helper is we couldn't leave anything in a US Postal Service mail box or slot. Though often the easiest place to deliver smaller items, it's prohibited by Federal law.

[@paulgrimm7842]

Worked there over 40 years. Really enjoyed it . I drove Feeders to tractor trailer

[@Mantikal]

The first rule is - don't tell anyone (especially the media) about our strict rules.

[@jackschaefer7751]

Ups is a sweat shop.

[@smaharg4656]

Lol .. right

[@jakey20022]

UPS IS A JOKE !!

[@smaharg4656]

@@jakey20022 for the good money I make.. I’ll just laugh at their jokes.. go make my money and get out.

[@amyyngsdal8982]

Too late!! Lol

[@davidkerley6598]

My neighbor was a UPs driver. He retired after 35 years last July, he made it 5 months and committed suicide. After watching this video I kind of understand what drove him to suicide. I'm surprised "work place violence" wasn't involved.

[@takashimurakami6738]

Bro just what I needed to see after I committed to full time

[@neighborhoodpranksters6214]

@@takashimurakami6738 you'll make money dont worry about it

[@christopherlondon7382]

Wow lol

[@christopherlondon7382]

@@joedirte4485 Where are u gettin this statistic?

[@christopherlondon7382]

@@joedirte4485 Damn...

[@TidalWaveDan]

I went to UPS orientation and I never heard the word “work” so many times in my life. I quickly figured out why they’re always hiring.

[@HenryPaulThe3rd]

I’ve heard it takes a long time to get on as a driver at UPS. Is that not true??

[@phil2945]

Took me 15 years.

[@outthewaydre6450]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JeffRogers99]

Bullshit I been there 2 years and they always ask me

[@jasonmi6969]

@@JeffRogers99 Depends on the building jackass

[@MartinEquities]

I had no idea UPS was like this, I actually feel bad for the drivers. Being micro managed like that must suck

[@brandoncaldwell95]

A lot of jobs do this...

[@smaharg4656]

Telematics on us all day everyday 🥺

[@PKerusso]

They pay us very well for the privilege..

[@smaharg4656]

@@PKerusso right!

[@akajoniboy]

No need to fill bad. Insane job security, six figure income, great benefits, and a full pension after 30 yrs. My college degree collects dust in my book case, maybe ill used it when I retire.

[@theweirdsistersoracle2]

I had a boyfriend who's dad worked at UPS as a mechanic a few decades ago and said the reason he quit was they told him he wasn't allowed to go to the restroom while he was on the clock. I don't blame him.

[@texas5009]

Much respect for the UPD and Fed Ex drivers especially in these times during COVID. I have never seen them slow down.

[@Lonchin47]

It’s been Christmas every single day, burned me out

[@bigdogg1206]

We didn't slow down. It sped up. We were essential employees that had to work through the whole thing.

[@dark12ain]

Don't forget about the Amazon drivers 😅

[@sowhatsyourstories]

Started in 1985 in package car. Did 25 years and I must say every example you give, if anything, is just the tip of the iceberg. We always called manager boot camp as “hate school.” Managers would come back with completely different personalities.

[@jmer3536]

Thanks for the "Why not to work for UPS" video

[@garetweigman1327]

Ups drivers making over 100k a year right now lmao

[@-hiphopanonymous-7093]

@@garetweigman1327 yes we do :)

[@projectfreedom9510]

@@-hiphopanonymous-7093 no you don't. lol

[@jmer3536]

@@garetweigman1327 So are USPS carriers so whatcha point?

[@garetweigman1327]

@@jmer3536 no they do not lol average pay is 17-30. Where top pay at ups is 40 and 60 during OT

[@daisyO2043]

I am not a UPS driver, however I avoid left turns also. Mostly to prevent accidents.

[@MobileAura]

You’ll cause more accidents driving in circles instead. Source: safety driving expert/awarded

[@jneusbaum3697]

Daisy Duke. Everywhere you go you cause an accident...YOU'RE HOT! ...Nature of the beast I guess...good problem to have...

[@csn6234]

@@jneusbaum3697 And you wonder why women think you're a creep?

[@jneusbaum3697]

@@csn6234. SIMP! I 'm never a creep...just honest.

[@louisinese]

I hate when there are no green arrows so you have to yield while its green forever while ppl are impatient behind you. I want to see a full functioning city thats all one ways only.

[@gdavis8588]

I did seasonal for a couple of years after I retired from a utility company. All the big corporations micromanage you to death now. The driver and safety training I had at my career job was identical to UPS. We were timed to the minute for every work step. I did like the regular drivers I came in contact with and now when I get a delivery I try to meet them at the package car so they can keep moving.

[@chrisconsorte7893]

These drivers are the hardest working guys ever. Period! This video is very accurate on what UPS drivers go through.

[@maxpainmedia]

Come do construction with me for a week lol youll be happy to go back to delivering boxes

[@chrisconsorte7893]

@@maxpainmedia I’ve done construction. I’m lucky I have the job that I have.

[@adamwelles5502]

@@maxpainmedia I've done both buddy lol and ups drivers work harder then construction workers, sorry to break it to ya.

[@maxpainmedia]

@@adamwelles5502 that is absolute bullshit, mason tending , you are carrying 70-90 pound block, mixing mortar and carry it in buckets that weigh atleast 80 pounds,, errecting scaffolding carrying double planks, im talking real construction in NYC shell and core.. 90% of UPS would quit within the first week, i WISH i was a UPS driver lol.. not to mention in construction you can get laid off at moment any day, no system in place.. ups is Childs play to construction workers stop it

[@tipsandquips516]

@@adamwelles5502 lol...yep. less the guy throwing wood with nails sticking out from a rooftop missing the dumpster and hitting his workmate.

[@nutandboltguy3720]

I’ve never heard anything about the backing up rule. Our UPS driver, as well as FedEx, DHL, and USPS, backed up to get back out of our driveway. We also lived on a dead end road. They had no choice.

[@amd1273]

I've gone down long driveways only to find out I have no place to turn around. I've backed out of many long driveways. That's why I will not drive down them at night, the packages get EC"d. Unless I know for sure there is a turnaround

[@pbear216]

He didn't back out, he put it in neutral and rolled out. If he backed out he would be in the office and eventually fired for failing to follow the methods.

[@insall57]

Tomorrow is my last day of training before I start next week! It feels like the military in there. They want you to desperately remember the 5-point driving rules and 10 poiny commentary. They're strict, especially about time and how to enter the truck and how to get off the truck and constantly keep checking your mirrors and they expect you to learn the DIAD QUICKLY

[@bfreehling2869]

I’m a package car driver at UPS. Pretty much all true. Except the whole left turn thing. Atleast at my center in PA. I’ve never been told anything at all by management or dispatch about not turning left. It could be different at other centers around the country, but it’s not a thing where I’m at.

[@LIFEWITHTHEJONESES1]

Same here in TN

[@thabeast37]

It's definitely a built in parameter of Orion when it's planning your route. Right hand turns are prioritized whenever possible but it certainly doesn't rule out lefts

[@josephs8364]

Yeah the left turn thing is not a thing anymore

[@joescmo7790]

Where in pa do you work? Just got on as part time, need some tips lol

[@bfreehling2869]

@@joescmo7790 New Stanton hub. We have 2 centers in our building. Greensburg and Monroeville centers

[@Spacegoat92]

I could never work for a company like that. I can't stand being micromanaged!!

[@dougerrohmer]

I'm kinda torn. I hate being told what to do, but have figured out the efficiency thing for myself years ago. I'm in a different industry, but the pen thing makes so much sense and I can't remember when last I lost car keys, plus basic organisation of the tool bag. It's actually a pain sometimes to work with co-workers who constantly get stumped by small preventable details.

[@maxpainmedia]

Id rather make less and work for myself just getting by than to get micromanaged Like this

[@Spacegoat92]

@F Trakk Umm. No, I prefer to make my own decisions and use my brain when I work instead of being a robot.

[@FNDD22]

When you got mouths to feed and a family to support you tend to deal with some bs.

[@Fiimu_3351]

@@FNDD22 isn't that the case with every job though?

[@spookydog9163]

I’ve never had worse management in my life than when I did at UPS. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone even with the pay and benefits. Not worth your effort to a company that will do anything in their power to ruin your career.

[@brandoncaldwell95]

I was at a location for a drop and had to move my pickup and 40ft trailer (max of 40 seconds) to back up so the UPS driver didnt have to go into reverse to get yelled at. Their job is a nightmare...

[@caseykarr7171]

But but my new uniforms don’t have pen pockets anymore 🥺🥺

[@smaharg4656]

Right everything falls out.. lol

[@BIGDROC99]

I worked UPS during Christmas as a helper. Winter time, ice and snow everywhere. Supervisor got mad I wasn’t running to houses.

[@Onedollarbeer]

Peak season is busy, ofc he’s gonna be mad

[@jcspaz4l]

Your Sup or your Driver. Chances are your driver is just lazy and he's taking advantage of his jumper. Happens all the time, me personally I race my helper, we both better be putting out the same amount of stops

[@BIGDROC99]

@@jcspaz4l Supervisor. Me and the driver met up with a supervisor so the supervisor could give us more packages. Driver definitely wasn’t lazy he hustled.

[@jcspaz4l]

@@BIGDROC99 that's normal, especially during peak.

[@BIGDROC99]

@@jcspaz4l I get that it’s normal to meet up and offload other packages. What I won’t do is run on ice for a part time temporary job that’s minimum wage.

[@Polemic-2525]

I worked for them. A lot of rules is overkill. I'll never worked for a company like this ever again. Life is too short. You can have it.

[@f143744]

Three points of contact was taught by the Military 35 years ago, used on Apache Helicopters. When falls from heights started a Line-Of -Duty Investigation.

[@7stringst3r]

They copied everything from the military

[@civilwildman]

I have good relations with the current driver for UPS in my neighborhood. This explains a lot to me.

[@kandicejanusz1829]

My husband is a UPS delivery driver. I sent this to him. He'll say what true which this mostly sounds true.

[@MrPlanner12]

I work for ups uk we don't work weekends we start at 8am we're not allowed near out veichle till 8 if we do we get the book thrown at us the latest we finish is 7pm

[@kandicejanusz1829]

@@MrPlanner12 my husband said all of this is true for the US, except for the beard thing. It was recently past that they can have beards.

[@caseykarr7171]

@@MrPlanner12 nice 7pm is a early day for most of us drivers here in DFW Texas

[@BeingKyleBusch18]

@@kandicejanusz1829 Ummm, did you not understand that the segment about beards were about how they DON'T HAVE THE BEARD RULE ANY LONGER?

[@Whareva]

The bottle pissing is true so don't let him lie

[@chrisl218569]

This company is putting “efficiency “ above people

[@r0b0gam3r9]

We had fun at uPS on the mid night shift. We joked and loaded trucks. Time flew by. I missed those days.

[@cvx2dog549]

I looked at it as being paid to exercise. Basically it was a fun job but very glad to be retired.

[@JohnSmith-rn5tb]

It wasn't the hard work I resented,it was the BULLSH@@ that UPS constantly threw at employees

[@thepitpatrol]

I worked for them for 8 years. In our area it was one of the best jobs around. Their whole plan is based on efficiency. Is it a job for everyone? No.

[@yungmetrogaming9487]

My dad is actually a retired UPS driver pretty much i can confirm much is true and also as a kid I remember we would see each other when I was outta school waiting for the bus or walking he would pick me up and I would sit in the truck shit be hot in there but lowkey fun

[@Hanibul_Lecktor]

Your dad is a extremely rare example, ask him how he had to walk on egg shells his last 5yrs. They would scrutinize everything a driver does just to fire them. I guarantee your dad will have a story or two about that fact.

[@julioventura2372]

Crazy how he got away with that. A driver in my center got fired recently because the route they gave him just so happened to have his girlfriends house. Well, he wanted to show his girlfriend how his job is and she hopped in the passenger seat for a couple stops then went back home. He got caught and was fired. Luckily the union backed him up and got his job back within two weeks

[@yungmetrogaming9487]

@@julioventura2372 sheeeesh

[@7stringst3r]

The job is fun but management makes it torture. Hard to not punch them in the face sometimes.

[@josephspano5529]

The left turn thing is out the window. It’s been gone since implicating Orion. We are now going onto Orion 3.0

[@douggarrison9220]

ORION calculates - driven miles, packages, time ORION doesn't calculate - miles walked, customer relations, bathroom breaks, traffic, sales opportunities, time to take a drink, misloads, bad load quality, god forbid you make a mistake, and most importantly of all it doesn't calculate the route the right way for literally years now. When the company tells you ORION "is optimizing" that is a flat out lie lol.

[@josephspano5529]

@@douggarrison9220 I used to walk 19,000 to 23,000 steps a day.

[@christopherlondon7382]

Just went live with Orion 3.0 today in Denver 😑

[@calebcomstock6697]

Orion 3.0: welcome to even more processing delays and wondering when tf the laser is going to finally shoot the barcode

[@bigmoneymethods]

Diad has been unusually slow since the update...

[@BrielViens]

I’ve been dodging the Axe with UPS as a driver for almost 19 years. We used to take mostly right hand turns until a system called “Orion” was implemented. Now I take only left hand turns to “save miles and fuel”. Still we have the same unrealistic time and productivity standards.

[@rich6784]

I'm glad I got out when I did. I used to get time studied and we were timed to the thousandths of a second. I would joke with the person doing the time study and say that the Olympics only time to the hundredths of a second

[@JohnSmith-rn5tb]

I was time studied once and the dude told me I was in line to get time ADDED to my route- 1980s- the Center Mgr refused the time study,kept old " standards!!!"such bullsh@@ anyway!!!

[@carterjohnson9209]

Used to work at ups and had to quit due to the stress. But the class to be a driver is not very hard

[@imagine9265]

U could keep that job .. I know for a fact it's really stressful being on a clock.

[@RWBprototype]

According to the Daily Mail, Amazon and UPS and FEDEX deliver a bare minimum of 150,000 packages a day. There's no way they could meet those delivery demands unless they hire more drivers. Since the pandemic began, delivery companies have been busier than ever because of a massive surge in online shopping.

[@PTS156]

I load the semi trailers and I shit you not I single handedly have had to fill 3-4 semi trailers in a 5-6 hour shift. Everyone who works in this industry works their ass off, down to the entry level people who just load and unload in the hub.

[@DaveW74TVN]

150k a day? WAY low! UPS moves about 18 MILLION a day globally.

[@barakjohnson9931]

After doing this job for a few years sitting down on vacation isn’t a thing I do. I can not sit still and always feel like I need to be doing something….on top of that I have a led foot. I need to quit before UPS becomes my existence 😢

[@houston356]

Since I gave up working 9 to 5 jobs I really realize how much people are getting screwed being on the outside looking in.

[@H1storybr3akdown]

What do you do now?

[@houston356]

@@H1storybr3akdown I work for Uber and Postmates. Work when I want, how I want. I used to be a security guard where they used to track every step I took and basically my job was to deal with other peoples problems. Now I make almost 4 time’s as much delivering food on my own schedule. I highly recommend it.

[@Cowboy684]

@@houston356 lol and you think Uber and Postmates dont track you... ok bud have a good time destroying your own vehicle and making way less money...

[@houston356]

@@Cowboy684 of course they do dumbass. But still can work when I want to. What do you mean make less? I make $5000 a month in Sacramento. And as for my car that I’m goin to “ruin”, I only paid $1000 for it and made that money right back in a week. What else you got??

[@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind]

@@houston356 I've heard doing Uber in big cities id where the money is at. I feel like job security isn't going to be great though in 5 years when everyone is signing up to Uber, but I guess with technology advancing so fast, job security in all professions will go down. Plus, the longer you're a self employed professional driver, the better since some people will look at the stars and ratings.

[@davejackson8047]

Getting the job done,comes before safety!!!

[@BobbyFocus2008]

Honestly this type of job is rewarding yes it’s a hard job but for someone like me being a delivery driver is life , been doing it since I Graduated from High school and turned 21 and plan on continuing my career as a package delivery driver until I retire.

[@orlandrioussullivan9139]

I always wanted to drive for ups after i got my cdl years ago. They said i had to work the dock and that could be years before i get put in a tractor. I told them im good. Now i look back, i thank God that im running my own towing company. I wouldnt trade it for nothing in this world.

[@streetstallion]

I work for UPS about to quit... getting too much and with the hot summer on its way it’s hell... fellow upsers will understand me..

[@HenryPaulThe3rd]

What position?

[@hansolo3991]

@@HenryPaulThe3rd do you work for them? I just got called up to 22.4 after sorting for last year. I love the job, keeps me in shape. I have drivers come down to work with us sometimes and say sorting is way harder than driving, so I guess the 2nd half of my days should be a little easier lol

[@d.c.barker]

I started to fill out a UPS driver application since they're hiring in my area...thank god I did my homework first and saw this video. All those rules and efficiency measures would annoy the sht out of me and I'm darn sure not working 60+ hours a week either. 🙄

[@misterm5325]

It sounds ridiculous. No one should be working 60 hours a week as the norm unless you are the owner.

[@IKEMENOsakaman]

I'm a truck driver. I urinate in trucks because there aren't too many public toilets that we can use, and also, we can't park our big vans/trucks wherever we want.

[@misterm5325]

I do too. Not because I have to but because going to seek out a bathroom could take an additional 5-10 minutes. Do that 4-5 times a day and you could potentially get home an hour later.

[@ValicanX]

Been a UPS driver in NC for almost 6 years now, the rules are true, its rough, but I love this job and wouldn't trade it for anything lol The pay is great and so are the benefits, the back first exceptions and constant efficiency nonsense is incredibly tiring though -_-

[@luismagana9784]

Literlly would go just for the benefits

[@speedbuggy16v]

LOL, my driver always backs into my drive, but then again I am the next house to the last on a dead end. In the end, I love my driver, the brown santa as I call him. He does a great job and is always happy and personable.

[@pbear216]

We can back up anytime before we make a delivery, and in this case, he is actually following the methods correctly. Once we make a delivery, we cannot back up again until we have driven at least 250 feet forward or a report is generated called a back first exception.

[@Rimiler]

All of this is true, and this video barely skims the surface of it all. This is about 1% of 100 if you get me thinking about it. Sincerely, full time driver.

[@steveurbach3093]

I was a peak driver in the late 90's. I had a beard, but I was told I could keep it if it was due to religion (I did not abuse that exemption and shaved). Lefts were discouraged at all but controlled (green arrow) intersections, which is an excellent plan. Way safer to go around the block.

[@nickhill8612]

Wow talk about big brother is watching is absolutely true. That's scary.

[@7stringst3r]

BIg Brown Brother

[@andrewherbst4460]

Planning to go driver once I finish my years in the military! Surprisingly, the military highly respects drivers and support my choice. I worked there in the twighlight and morning sort for 6 years and am currently building seniority while serving. I always liked the hard work and still believe in it. Also always have been a runner for long distance and still to this day. Once I get out I’ll have 10 years of seniority at UPS and I’ll apply for driver to support my wife, kid, and myself! Looking forward to it 👍

[@alwaysfooling1122]

Part time seniority and full time driver seniority are two different things

[@andrewherbst4460]

@@alwaysfooling1122 Correct. 10 years of service to UPS but once you’re driver, I know you lose all seniority and start from the bottom to work your way up again.

[@martyjoseph9507]

@@alwaysfooling1122 gotta have the part time seniority to get the full time position

[@martyjoseph9507]

Nothing wrong with working hard and running a fine tuned machine. I enjoy it. The frustration sets in when it goes FUBAR constantly and you have no control over it.

[@MelywoodMedia]

It's all true and over time it physically breaks the drivers. The metrics is insane -- all in the name of corporate greed.

[@ledhalenV]

I work fast not because of a “strict time schedule” and piss in bottles because I want to be home with my wife and kids, not because management is pushing me. All you’re doing is giving them a reason to put a camera inside the truck. We get breaks and lunches like everyone else.

[@IH-li5ir]

100% brother. If I can get done at 4:00 pounding out 40 stops/min then I’m a happy man. Still making ridiculous money. Hell of a lot more than when I was working management at UPS.. with a bachelors 🙃 stay safe!!

[@denisberry4941]

dont worry there is a camera on your monitor. They say its not activated. Been with UPS 32 years i doubt its inactive

[@j.pesquera]

@@IH-li5ir "40 stops/min." unless you can stop time that's physically impossible lol. Just saying, that would literally be a stop every 1.5 seconds, including drive time to the stop.

[@MobileAura]

@@j.pesquera Think he’s talking about GTA 5 vr UPS edition where you don’t have to use brakes.

[@goody8504]

@@denisberry4941 if the cams are active, i can only assume they've seen many drivers blasting rods as a form of stress management. Pretty sure there's nobody watching.

[@exoressdelivers70]

My former neighbor works for UPS as a driver. He and his wife moved away and purchased a huge house in a gated community. He said that he makes about $85,000.00 per year. So the rules are worth dealing with for that kind of money.

[@julioventura2372]

It’s true. Some make more. A guy I know made 130k in 2020. Although he did work almost 60 hours a week for the whole year

[@toyoscio]

Is working in real hot weather worth it too?

[@julioventura2372]

@@toyoscio it really depends on the person. I do okay with heat. Others cannot handle it. The way I see it is summer is only a few months a year.

[@hansolo3991]

Try working unloading a truck or sorting in summer... little hotter than driving haha, but most drivers did it on the way up to their job now

[@julioventura2372]

@@hansolo3991 yup. I was a loader in the afternoon shift for 5 years before I got called up to be a driver. Those trailers feel like ovens in the summer

[@cottydry]

Working UPS feeder/slip seat is the "holy grail" of trucking. High pay, great benefits and home every night. Very tough to get to that position but lots of guys are retiring.

[@sygyzy279]

Me and a few buddys applied and walked right in feeders.. ive talked to some of the senior guys and its crazy what they had to do/ how easy it is now. Im definitely thankful that im here now. And that i made the decistion to make ths jump when i did.

[@dennispluto3806]

@@sygyzy279 We used to work partime unloading trailers 15 years before we had a chance at fulltime

[@analstench4522]

They still harass you in feeder

[@hunterchalk2014]

Just went through intergrad last week. A lot less stressful with covid going on. They weren’t able to do all the standard testing

[@micpango]

lucky, it sucks to go through

[@rogerwilco71]

in Nascar, they recommend Left turns

[@newmanc6619]

Tracking devices can be jammed. Just have a jammer that can jam wireless internet and it will look like a malfunction

[@thomasorchard]

Brilliant idea... imagine using a jammer everyday and your supervisors wonder wtf is wrong with your truck

[@joshuawalker5044]

Yea thats makes the mechanics life hell because they yell at us for not being able to fix it when it works perfectly when we check it out at night. Thanks.

[@newmanc6619]

@@thomasorchard Jamming cellular voice calls is illegal, but jamming data is not, and there are jammers than can data, but not affect voice. They would have no clue what was happening.

[@thomasorchard]

@@newmanc6619 That's funny.

[@chriswalker143]

@@joshuawalker5044 hey what do you need to be a mechanic can u go from package handler to mechanic what do you need?

[@CO84trucker]

I work in the portable restroom business and I utilize the no left turn due rule whenever I have a cluster of portable restrooms within a mile or so so as not to make a left turn across a busy road.

[@Hashiramashultz]

If a driver don’t make their numbers, supervisors start to follow you, if you don’t pull your mirror or walk over the grass to be faster they’ll write a warning letter, if you use a business bathroom they will fire you because you are stealing time.

[@joelesher2016]

Seems like a job I want to work for. Saving the company time throughout the day throughout the week throughout the year to get more loads done just to have the hire ups tell you to do it faster. Seems like such a great job. Without US workers these big corporations would be nothing. They forget they Stand on OUR shoulders! We do not stand on theirs.

[@toyoscio]

But they pay you their money, so they feel they are in control.

[@Jvaldes609]

As a driver this video is surprisingly accurate.

[@toyoscio]

lol

[@jcantrell4273]

Except Orion does not care if you turn left

[@Jvaldes609]

@@jcantrell4273 facts

[@diegob7756]

is the job worth it?

[@Jvaldes609]

@@diegob7756 yeah the money is good,

[@halojimmy7]

I like hearing UPS truck Starting up

[@jakereed8282]

This is why I left ups 3 years ago this video is on point. Yes you make damn good money but I’m not being a damn slave to nobody. They fired me because I supposedly was “stealing time” because I had to take a dump. I held it in for nearly an hour and a half. I was walking and farting every time I got off the package car. They tried to bring me back about a month later I told them no I moved on to better things.

[@boratwilson9916]

you didn't join the union?

[@TheRealJosh05]

My dad retired after 30 years, by the time he retired he had a note book of all the stuff that his bosses gave them shit for. It’s changed a lot, it used to be a great place to work

[@joaoportesantava1412]

I worked for UPS as a assistant during the holidays and yes they demand every minute of you, always. Yes we urinate in our cars and or trucks using bottles

[@fordp32]

Key fob only when it works, my broke down after 6 month use, it cost a 1000.00 to replace, so back to the key! I back up about 250 time a week, they told me that it was too much backing, if I have to back up I will back up, have alot of loading dock!

[@douggarrison9220]

The key fobs that they have you use are completely crap!

[@ddstanfield9259]

I’m not sharing too much But on time and working hard, with express working for 2 and 1/2 weeks, I have never delivered every package on my truck. We load the trucks every morning ourselves , Enter the info into an app that we pay 100$ a year for. Unless you do the same route every day and know it. I haven’t figured out how to be efficient enough and the training is worthless. I feel like a bad employee because I’d expect to deliver everything and so all the pick ups But not yet. Co-workers Say not to worry about it because they can’t afford to fire you . I had a talk with the hub manager in passing and he was really supportive and said any moment I feel like I need his help Come in and just sit and talk to him. I think I feel worse about me that they do but I want to be a good employee, Just haven’t felt good about my performance or ability

[@MrTspeeds07]

Safety above all. Don’t let managements problems become your problems. One stop at a time.

[@seanyoung3864]

I'm a UPS driver. It's actually a VERY good thing that we doesn't retire vehicles. In the wrong hands a bad guy could have access to a lot of places they should not be able to get into, with a UPS package car.

[@youshowmeyours]

Its not hard to paint a can brown lol

[@dennymangan7385]

Years ago it also was a rule that you could not wear your uniform home for security purposes. In case it got in the wrong hands or god forbid you stopped at a bar for a beer.

[@porkchop359]

I feel for these guys I always figured there was a lot of strict BS to follow you know it's different strokes for different folks me personally I would much rather have my freedom to make my own choices and calls with my job as I have it now instead of security life of driving a truck for a living is pain in the ass enough without all of this added

[@johnnypk1963]

I was hired for help at Xmas holiday early 90s. It was such a shitty job, pay was terrible working conditions were worse. The driving test was stressful af. Luckily I was proficient w a manual transmission but if you weren’t forget it. You’ll never pass it.

[@7stringst3r]

I faked my way through but I'm a quick study

[@alaukikdeepboparai8131]

Yay, this video just added to my depression about not having a decent job. I was thinking of doing a UPS driver job because it seems simple. However, I am not sure I if I will last long in this job.

[@benjamingamache6441]

My dad works at UPS, building maintenance. He's got some stories...my favorite is the driveer who was fired for dropping packages off in the cemetary, his reason being his route was too long or some shit.

[@arborinfelix]

This shows how much a company doesn't value its worker and denies them basic human dignity.

[@patrickjohnson2886]

Thank you ,thank you, thank you. This is the first video I’ve ever seen that is on point of UPS. I have worked for the company for 29 years and you are spot on with everything. I love my company I intend to retire at 35 years. This job is not for everyone.

[@Pjayque]

Spot on. Was a P Dale package car mechanic 80's and 90's. Busy hub,400 plus package cars

[@JVenger]

I prefer you guys over FedEx! You guys rock!

[@ronofficial5958]

I drove for 9 years before injuries screwed me up. All of these facts are true. Forgot to mention work shoes being clean... We had shoe shine stations in our locker rooms.

[@louisinese]

@@ronofficial5958 what was your experience after the injuries?

[@ronofficial5958]

@@louisinese eventual retirement. Here is the list: torn Achilles, broken foot, torn rotator cuff, torn knee meniscus, concussion and all types of cuts, bruises through the years. I hope that helps you with your career choices. After the injuries, UPS is pretty good with healthcare and insurance. I had really good care whenever I was injured.

[@nvskorpio]

I work for FedEx for 7 yrs and I've NEVER seen a UPS driver hurry, let alone run

[@dennispluto3806]

@Alan Burwell lol

[@opendore4581]

UPS tells us specifically not to run. Walk at a brisk pace.

[@RafaelHernandez-vt8fu]

We get paid by the hour not package. Work safe, walk at brisk pace.

[@richardstehlik6964]

Tuff company to work for. Retired from UPS after 40 years of service. Been retired now for 5 years. Don't miss it at all, however i do miss the customers that you get to know. Knees are shot, left shoulder has no cartilege otherwise i'm good. LOL.

[@toyoscio]

Good you made it that long

[@naroon5455]

Before facial hair was allowed, i would shave every other day. If i forgot? My boss handed me shaving cream and a disposable razor to go up to the locker room and shave. There's also shoe polish stations in the hub. Also fun uniform policy info. Footware must be black or brown, polishable leather, laced, work boots or shoes. Socks must be black or brown only with pants, with shorts, only official ups socks are allowed. Undershirts may only be white or brown.