The Untold Truth Of The Rat Pack

[@GrungeHQ]

What were your thoughts on The Rat Pack?

[@NellieKAdaba]

Love them.

[@magicvampirelver1321]

They some real ones..Pure Legends🔥💎

[@erichhitchcock3368]

At 6:35, asked...or aksed? Edit...or etid?

[@TheCarlosgrau]

Loved this! Just a minor quibble: the background music was too loud, and of the wrong era... Great job on the writing!

[@sahshamariemason6710]

Love them…. But even they were to a point not what we saw on the stage.

[@iloveoklahoma6592]

I grew up listening to the Rat Pack and I loved it. The sixties and seventies had a lot of phenomenal music, however, nobody came close to the Rat Pack. I still enjoy listening to them. My youngest son is 29 and he is an old soul. Frank Sinatra is one of his favorites. We listen to Frank Sinatra, Perry Como, Bing Crosby, Johnny Mathis and Nat King Cole, just to name a few. Brings back some amazing memories from my childhood. Much simpler times...❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍

[@jonsmtrs]

I always loved Frank and Sammy since the 50s. As a singer bassist I tried out for a trio playing at Ceasars in 74. Frank sat in and got us the gig while playing in NYC. Just to have a distant connection with these guys was quite an honor.

[@kevinbergin9971]

That is great that Dean Martin stood up for Sammy by not attending the Kennedy Inaugural. Seemed he also snubbed Lawford too.

[@mrjw6701]

Sinatra is the one who snubbed Lawford and ostracised him from the group.

[@kevinbergin9971]

@@mrjw6701 Dean never had Lawford on his show; yet Sinatra, Davis and Bishop were all there multiple times.

[@joeymorvant161]

It is great that Dean showed support for Sammy.

[@mrjw6701]

@@kevinbergin9971 because he couldn’t could he. It would probably have made his friendship with Sinatra awkward.

[@kevinbergin9971]

@@mrjw6701 True, so let's remember that when we think of Sammy's loyalty.

[@lexdee523]

The Ratpack was an iconic group of well-known men in Hollywood that will NEVER be forgotten. Much love to all of them :)

[@meepliss7560]

As a 15 year old IM JUST OBSESSED with the Rat Pack my personal favorite is Dino and I literally listen to him everyday the class and style of these times will not be forgotten to me. Dinos show is just the funniest thing and just so iconic. (I feel like I was born in the wrong generation) Sammy davis and frank Sinatra also have great music and good performances!

[@karenwaddell9396]

My my mother worked in the cafe/bar on the Desert Inn golf course. Dean Martin came in. She waited on him.aid said he never had alcohol. But we loved Dean Martin show. This was in the the time frame of 62-65ish. I was. 10-13yo.

[@michaelstacy9453]

They did represent an era that will never be repeated. I still enjoy their music, in fact, I am using some of their songs as inspiration for a novel that I am writing.

[@alanaadams7440]

Davis was performing with the Rat pack in a casino. The Casino refused to allow Davis stay in the hotel and said he had to use the backdoor bc he was black. When Sinatra found out he said he would not perform there if Davis couldn't stay there Sinatra backed Davis all the way.

[@terrygarcia897]

Same thing happened to Elvis his back up singers were told not to come to the astro dome Houston Elvis said he ain't coming unless his girls get star treatment

[@johanprx7985]

The Rat pack actually started in the 40's with Spencer Tracy (as the leader) and a few other celebrities of which Sinatra and Bogart were part of. But this original Rat pack was kind of behind closed doors. They ask Sinatra to spread the word. That would eventually turn into the Rat pack we know and love.

[@terrygarcia897]

Edward g Robbins

[@im_afraid_of_americans3918]

I loved the Rat Pack! I grew up listening to thier music and they don't make music like them anymore. My mother saved 2 TV guide's; one of Frank Sinatra and JFK. an I still have them! My parents used to listen to thier songs all day long: especially Ole Blue eyes. ❤🙂Gotta love the Golden years!

[@christineparis5607]

My parents fell in love at the end of the war, dated, married, and moved to the suburbs to immediately get going on starting a family, all to the music of the big bands and the great voices of the day. As the music faded off the radio, my mother collected ALL of the Readers Digest music collections from the 1920s up to the 1950s. I knew hundreds of songs by heart since those records were always playing! My mom cleaned to Dino and Sinatra, and taught us how to dance to the big bands. We also had the recordings from all the big stage hits, Oklahoma, South Pacific, Kismet, etc. I am heartbroken that the fabulous collection music vanished when my mom passed away and dad had Alzheimer's, he somehow gave away all the records, books and photos to someone, or to Goodwill, no one knows....I have the best memories of great times to great music, and how happy my parents were with their lives turning out to be everything they dreamed of during the war. I know everyone says the old days were the best, and for a lot of folks, they weren't, but most people were happier in general at that time, feeling like they were all doing something important, recovering from the last 4 years...

[@suzycreamcheesez4371]

Guides plural not possessive

[@muziklvr7776]

@@christineparis5607 You can find just about all of that music on KZbin now for free. One of the rare good points of modern tech.

[@christineparis5607]

@@muziklvr7776 Thank you!!

[@BelievingRebel]

Judy Garland and her (third) husband Sid Lift were members of the original Rat Pack. David Niven was also a member. According to one of Garland’s biographers, the original Rat Pack’s motto was “Never rat on a Rat.”

[@mesolithicman164]

There were loads of celebs in the Rat Pack orbit, Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh, Cary Grant, Johnny Carson, Don Rickles, Peter Falk, Jack Parr, it wasn't that exclusive a club. And the main appeal was to thirty somethings and older. Younger kids weren't especially interested in middle aged swingers. And to be honest, Frank and Dean weren't interested in appealing to teenagers.

[@PeaceCommando]

Great post. I am somewhat curious about Johnny Carson's involvement with the Rat Pack. My favorite member is Dean Martin.

[@lloydkline1518]

❤️ Dean Martin charm & entertainer

[@electrictroy2010]

Johnny Carson was Not part of the rat pack, since he lived in New York (2000 miles from Vegas). He was just filling-in during the TV show, because one of the Rat packers was absent .

[@Patriot-oi7mj]

Both Sinatra and Martin were strong supporters of Ronald Reagan in the 80s.I worked on the campaign to re elect Reagan in 84 and had the great fortune of meeting them both. They were both great guys.

[@cedricliggins7528]

Floyd Patterson was always a Ronald Reagan supporter

[@stacynels4]

I have and will always forever keep Joey Bishop solid in place as one of the Rat Pack Members.

[@mesolithicman164]

Why? He wasn't very funny and he wasn't a star in the order of magnitude of Frank, Dean or Sammy. Same with Henry Silva, although he was more peripheral.

[@electrictroy2010]

WATCH THE VIDEO. It clearly states Joey Bishop wrote 90% of the jokes .

[@ghostcityshelton9378]

Poor Monroe was murdered and they made it look like a drug over dose because she stated she'll tell of the affairs she had with Jack & Bobby Kennedy.

[@glassontherocks]

She was pregnant with Bobby's child.

[@georgecapozzi3746]

Great job Barbara ! I pray the only reason you haven't come back with any other parodies is that it's not due to illness! You have a gift of humor and political satire mixed with, unfortunately, THE TRUTH ! We/ I / AMERICA NEEDS YOU !

[@donaldfeger91]

The good ole days when people had class and knew how to party!

[@chirelle.alanalooney8609]

Please tell us how Johnny Carson became a Member of the Famous and Notorious Rat Pack Club. I think that is something that everybody would be quiet interested in, especially since he had such a Famous and Renown Hit of a Late Night T.V. Show.

[@mickeyfinnfinn5449]

Glad you told everyone it was Bacall & Bogart who came up with that Monica The Rat Pack ! sinatra always took credit for it !

[@bigz2239]

Monicker

[@mesolithicman164]

Exactly.

[@joeymorvant161]

Love Sinatra, Martin and Davis's music!

[@trishlangford5773]

Just loved the Rat Pack. Sammy was my favourite but I loved them all. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@vincentsalerno2602]

In 1967, West Hollywood, they owned a huge disco. The Factory. I worked and danced there. I never saw Martin. Sinatra, once. Davis, a few times. Lawford, every night. He was the door to door salesman.

[@meyerj75]

All of them were smokers but Joey Bishop survived the longest until he was 89. He even had his own late night talk show on ABC called simply, "The Joey Bishop Show" featuring a then-unknown Regis Philbin and even appeared on the following game shows "Match Game 70s", "Celebrity Sweepstakes" and New York taped episodes of "Pyramid".

[@Patriot-oi7mj]

What does smoking have to do with anything? Pretty much everyone back then smoked.

[@meyerj75]

@@Patriot-oi7mj Smoking is bad! It has 0% health benefits whatsoever and can shorten your lifespan by minutes and sometimes days. The Rat Pack all smoked but Joey Bishop outdid them all. Who Knows? Had he not have smoked, he could have lived longer than Betty White had.

[@u.s.n.retired1995]

Ocean's 11, one of my favorite movies. 💘 I'll always love and respect Mr. Davis, he was talented and put up with a lot of racist b.s.! I think all these gents were cool and great at their crafts.

[@FM-ig3th]

This pasty white guy agrees. Mr. Davis was the Godfather of cool. An amazing talent!

[@annetteelliott1494]

Mr Bojangles himself......

[@annetteelliott1494]

I simply hate the "new" oceans 11, just cannot watch it......there is only ONE oceans 11.........

[@plywoodcarjohnson5412]

Great upload, not embellishing the past. Feels like someone unafraid to tell the truth. Very liberating.

[@user-yv1fh3fc8y]

Joey Bishop felt like he wasn’t even really a member.

[@kevinbergin9971]

That was because Sinatra, Martin and Davis made Bishop & Lawford mud wrestle and they even burnt cigarettes on them. (True story.)

[@electrictroy2010]

WATCH THE VIDEO. It clearly states Joey Bishop wrote 90% of the jokes .

[@amywilkins543]

Loved them to pieces! Dean was my favorite!!!❤

[@IFUPokeTheLAMBULWakeThaLION]

a priceless, once-in-a-lifetime genuine respectful group-friendship that just happened to be in the public domain that also "included" the public as if "we" were a member who was also part of it....

[@IKEMENOsakaman]

Wow! I frew up with The Rat Pack, but I've never even have thought about half of the stuff discussed in this video!!!

[@cynthiaedwards3128]

Deano Paul Crosetti aka Dean Martin, cool laid back and loyal.

[@CanadianAmericans4Trump]

Awesome video

[@zimmakimma7007]

Respect the hustle keep posting

[@pearsjer000]

If you're ever in Tacoma, Wa go to Bob's Java Jive. It's a hidden gem of Rat Pack history and even and old speakeasy.

[@martinjames6431]

Would like to have heard more on Lawford. I was told once he was the drug dealer to the group and a reason for Franks animosity to Peter as he had a lifelong contempt for narcotics and almost cast SDJ out when he started getting dependent on Escobar Brand Slimfast

[@vincentsalerno2602]

I worked for them in 1967 at a disco/restaurant. The Factory. (Google it.). Yes. Lawford was the perfect host. Davis was the comedian and liked big dinner parties. I only saw Sinatra once. The Maître D took care of him. I took care of his guests. I never saw Martin or Bishop.

[@floridaboy.californiaman.649]

The rat pack is pretty much the image of cool . 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@vanessasorth4449]

I have known this Info since the 60's.

[@bobjackson4720]

To me the Rat Pack were fine examples of those from the WW2 generation, when men were men and proud of it.

[@freespirit21newyork]

RIP my RatPackers🐭 🎩🐭🎩🐭🎩🐭🎩🐭🎩🐭🎩🐭 I love you fabulous gentlemen FOREVER You guys were the absolute BEST👑👑👑👑👑👑👑🌠🗽🌠

[@ronanmclaughlin2712]

Nobody was playing casinos then without knowing the mob and Sinatra being as high profile as he was of course he know he was playing for the mob, I know this doesn’t exactly tie him to the mob but he knew who he was working for

[@chips1a]

Nothing but class and style and their music will never go out of style, This by the way is coming from a metal head. Their mob ties were mainly because the mob owned the casinos and the clubs, and that was the place where people went to be entertained, many people were unaware that those places were owned by mob members.

[@forrestxvii]

Oceans 11 was a dime. I grew up watching deans show on reruns with my nonna.

[@theguitarjohnshow]

Back when Hollywood Celebrities Had Class

[@charlesglaser4868]

That's Johnny Carson, at the mike at 19 seconds!! Lee Marvin @ 9:24.

[@glassontherocks]

Lawford had a strange connection to JFK.

[@darnellmitchell9357]

I'm starting to watch the documentary but anyway hungry Bogart is always been my favorite actor next to James Cagney😂

[@nancisam8305]

I used to watch the dean martin show

[@davidalanjonesridge9874]

When Johnny Carson took time off, Mr. Bishop filled or stood in and for the most times.

[@RedIce989]

The Rat pack was awesome... Video great thank you

[@lacaz212]

6:46 why is Sammy Davis Jr’s name in red?

[@eagleman1542]

That's raycuhst, reeeeeeeee!

[@stitchgrimly6167]

The same reason two of them are blue. It's just alternating black/blue/red.

[@christophervananzo9086]

There is no "Allegedly" connected to mobsters , lmao

[@jim7060]

Excellent thank you.

[@mikeakers3453]

Mar-enn? As astonishing as this may be, it is okay to pronounce the "T" in Martin. In fact, if you are trying to communicate effectively, it's mandatory.

[@SaltyChips-dh3mp]

And it’s ‘asked’, NOT axed.

[@MicheleHuffman-d8c]

Dean was always my favorite. He was handsome, so cool and laid back and had a voice like velvet. I wish he and Jeannie would have stayed together. I believe that their divorce and the death of son Dino was the undoing of Dean. I watch reruns of the Dean Martin show and laugh out loud at Dean and his antics. Dean, Frank, Sammy, Peter and Joey are all gone.......it's no wonder the world isn't as fun anymore. Love you forever, Dean..

[@stevesimz0017]

After Bogart died Sinatra renamed the group as: "The Clan".

[@NellieKAdaba]

👍🏿

[@janeoleary8454]

Never heard that before

[@janeoleary8454]

Bogart died in 57. In the early 60s they were the Rat Pack

[@kevinbergin9971]

Sinatra hated the name Rat Pack but Sammy joined a group called The Clan. Makes you wonder?

[@chirelle.alanalooney8609]

I see that Johnny Carson was in the group too.

[@marilynwagers786]

Johnny Carson was not a member of the rat pack

[@scotmiller1678]

You know, there is a "t" in the middle of MarTin.

[@sahshamariemason6710]

Beatles n the British Invasion was the starting of making music weaponized.

[@joeymorvant161]

What does that mean?

[@sahshamariemason6710]

@@joeymorvant161 it means they changed the hertz number from what we’re supposed to listen to to a higher one. If you believe it or not Play Ozzy Osborne back wards just cause people don’t want to believe the truth, doesn’t make their lie the new truth. I can’t link you KZbin won’t let me do that..

[@joeymorvant161]

@@sahshamariemason6710 Fair enough. Thank you!

[@sahshamariemason6710]

@@joeymorvant161 DuckDuckGo search when did they weaponized music. It will help ya google n rest hide n give you false information

[@joeymorvant161]

@@sahshamariemason6710 Thank you. So far, I haven't been able to find out much.

[@jonnydracos]

You completely forgot Johnny Carson...

[@fairladyZ64]

I think that this is a pretty good research history of what was going on between the people and I'm vexed between I think this is right and I think this has maybe a little bit of things I'm skeptical about however I think that the research is pretty solid.

[@georgesouthwick7000]

The other members of the Rat Pack referred to Peter Lawford as “Brother in Lawford”.

[@ZX-zw3ge]

Untold truth? Seems like a lot of this was known, especially when there's books and movie documentaries out there. To me, they were just old men who were living life acting like they're still in their 20's, except for Dean Martin, who was more isolated in his later years.

[@tahjmierbaker773]

Rap pack a.k.a odd future for old people.

[@shangooya2522]

This was good

[@joeymorvant161]

Why did kicking out Peter Lawford lead to the eventual drifting apart of the remaining four?

[@kevinbergin9971]

Around the same time that Lawford was dismissed, Bishop's career started to drift to TV and away from film work. Martin and Sinatra worked in a few more movies, but it's not much of a "pack" by then.

[@joeymorvant161]

@@kevinbergin9971 Ok. Thank you.

[@tomreedyjr3631]

Joey: around the time that Frank made the helipad for Kennedy, Bobby told Jack that it wasn't a good idea for him to be there. Frank blamed Lawford, who didn't know anything about it. Frank never forgave him..

[@joeymorvant161]

@@tomreedyjr3631 Thank you. So, if I'm getting this straight, Frank arbitrarily blamed Peter Lawford for something that Peter knew nothing about. Then, to top it all off, Frank held a grudge against Peter, who was innocent?

[@tomreedyjr3631]

Correct. And I read this, I BELIEVE, in an article or book about Frank..

[@julianaylor4351]

In order to work in Las Vegas before the seventies, people had no choice but to put up with the fact, that the mob owner that town. Furthermore Sinatra was Italian American and came from New Jersey, so he had no choice in that fact.

[@grahamlowe314]

And most of the music clubs in every us city were mob owned

[@Mark-nl1co]

What you failed to mention is that is that JFK's Attorney General was his brother, Robert.

[@Whatsnormal637]

Chronic predators 🤺💐

[@hapycamp7]

seemly unbiased and real

[@babavee100]

Yes, Sinatra knew and mixed with some mafia folks; They were the only people who helped him when he was down and out and couldn't find a job. He didn't forget them when he became famous; He also was a champion of black people. It was Sinatra who, insisted that Sammy Davis junior was gven a room in his hotel. Sammy was starring with the rat pack, but was not allowed to into the hotel. where the rest of the white rat pack stayed. He told the management and the show organisers that if Sammy couldn't stay, he would cancell the show. Sinatra also campaigned for JFK. and helped to win him the Presidency.He was never involved in Mafia crime ! His friends joked about him and the Mafia and it became a running joke just as Dino being drunk all the time. They both accepted, if not encouraged this myth with good humour. Least but by no means last; He was a bloody great singer along with Dino and Sammy.

[@jeffstone2585]

I always thought Joey Bishop didn’t fit in with the Rat Pack, sort of the odd man out.

[@tombasye1016]

Thank You '' GRUNGE '' The Video Was Great, '' THE RAT PACK '' Will Never Be Forgotten.

[@BellaBoop152]

So Peter is also to blame for Marlyn’s death??!!!! Ugh. Fuckin Kennedys

[@Jacqueline-z9m]

Night after night is is all true because I was there and saw and lived it all there really was a Las Vegas never to return again read the inside stuff even about Howard Hughes and the mob in my book on Kindle 50 Woodward Ave Jacqueline. And I loved every moment of it.

[@tonyperez7907]

Frank thought he was a Mob Boss! Dean was the man. Sammy the Token.

[@Yetti0]

Exactly

[@FM-ig3th]

I would not call Mr. Davis by that description. The man is an American treasure.

[@emmalinejosaphine7186]

Your knowledge of Sammy is apparently very limited. Icon is an understatement. Celebrated, loved, and honored an understatement as well. The man was a genius and way beyond the most talented of all the others combined. Search him here on KZbin. Not only will you learn a little, be prepared to be amazed, and then mesmerized!

[@tonyperez7907]

@@emmalinejosaphine7186 that's why they did not have his back when Sammy could not go to the white house. Sure they cated about him. Still a token.

[@emmalinejosaphine7186]

@@tonyperez7907 you do realize Dean Martin did not go either: in protest of excluding Davis.

[@tonyadangerfield8640]

The Rat Pack Love It Thanks

[@baileyayyy5085]

sinatra the og culture vulture and enjoying him just outs you as a filthy jazzual

[@ADG.Est.1988]

The original rat pack consisted of Humphrey ceasar Romero, and nat king Cole

[@kpo1870]

The sixth rat, Johnny Carson!!

[@karlepaul6632]

Peter "The Brother in" Lawford

[@derekmurray1462]

Ah never liked Kennedy much anyway, even though I’m Irish ☘️

[@pilesthedonkey]

Thank you and God bless you in Jesus Christ name Amen

[@williamstrother6027]

Dean Martin sang well

[@j2times2006]

Most of these untold truths have been told many times already.

[@Hexboyfren]

🖤

[@ELIOSANFELIU]

HAVE FUN¡¡¡

[@Buddycoop1]

The good old days, booze and smokes and American manufacturing. Once JFK went then society done changed.

[@lexkanyima2195]

I don't see a problem

[@muziklvr7776]

Well, we can keep booze, smokes, bullying, child abuse, and spousal abuse in the past but American manufacturing, good pay, and pensions are welcomed back.

[@FenyxBlaiseAsche]

Today, these guys would be an embarrassment. Except Peter Lawford. He had the breeding, class and talent that was wasted with these guys

[@melodyofpsalm9468]

They killed Marilyn

[@JosephDiveley]

I would have rather hung out with Bing than Frank too. Frank was a great performer but at some age you have to grow up and stop being a total drunk. I think that is what ended the rat pack. They grew up and stopped being sloppy drunks.

[@muziklvr7776]

None of them really grew up. Dean was totally sloshed when he was reunited with Jerry Lewis in 1976 during the telethon. Sammy Davis Jr was bigtime into drugs, alcohol, and orgies to the end while also being a strong member of Anton Lavey's satanic church. He died penniless and Frank Sinatra had to pay for his funeral because he squandered every penny of his money to the end. The only thing he had to show for was a massive porn collection. Frank was involved in highly criminal shennanagins and while he played "cool" on the stage, his life was a complete mess. Every one of his wives said he cried all of the time.

[@davidhoj]

#Allegedly

[@failuretocommunicate]

Socio-economic set-transformation.

[@tommyminervino5428]

Rat pack were the best entertainers,why should you bring MAFIA into this,especially when you don't know what your talking about.

[@alfredmalagas3477]

The rat pack I admired but wasn't a fan I of the young generation preferred soul pop rock an the Beatles I like dean Martin cool drinking style though today I here it was all just false drinking jeez

[@TNT-km2eg]

Nothing special about them . Not even worth discussing

[@dougcounts3383]

The mob's comedy crew. I never found them very talented.

[@rhlopez2694]

These guys were the shit , being 50 and all.?

[@goldbars777]

A cult.

[@janettewebster2151]

Sammy was an admitted satanist, were any of the others, I wonder?

[@goldbars777]

@@janettewebster2151 They all were, I’m sure. It’s all about mandatory oaths and sacrifices for fame and fortune in the upper echelons.

[@MrAjking808]

Take y’all meds

[@goldbars777]

@@MrAjking808 Nah. We don’t want the DUMBED DOWN meds prescribed to YOU‼️ Celebrities have BEEN talking about what it REALLY takes to come up🙄

[@austindreher2791]

@@MrAjking808 I know right.

[@blorac9869]

The way this guy speaks is cringe worthy! Mar-Inn at 01:24 and ax at 06:35 Defines Grunge!

[@ghostcityshelton9378]

I couldn't have cared less for the so called 'Rat Pack'. I barely watched TV as a kid and don't watch it now for the most part, I mostly watch movies where you're not having to watch blaring ADs every 5 minutes. I think they were self-serving creeps personally when together anyway.

[@tommyminervino5428]

You sound like a very unhappy person with a lot of issues

[@suzycreamcheesez4371]

golly gee Ghost you sound vexed! miffed! irked!! chill out! life is great and people are wonderful!! enjoy! like us!!

[@muziklvr7776]

There's a lot of truth to that. Their image was strictly business...making money, both for themselves, the mafia, and the entertainment industry. A few good songs came out of it though.