Morbid Thrasher has shown me photographs of the upper gyro cable, NOS for the PFT and it has a CS in the cast ball end for the brake lever. Chang Star my friends.
@MorbidThrasher6669 ай бұрын
How ironic i was googling this now and it linked me to your video 👍
@Leo_Mendoza2 жыл бұрын
Ah Atrain, the Guru. Thank you for the education. Your one of the best when it comes to GT.
@EbertPhelps Жыл бұрын
Those were good times. Beautiful and extremely versatile machines. Those cranks are mega beefy. The DYNO bikes were sweet too. I used to ride flatland on them.
@atrains Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@kevin43324332 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous bike. Brings back ALOT of memories.
@corrioliseffect2 жыл бұрын
This is all correct. I once had an ‘87 Pro Performer (blue) and I still have my ‘88 Pro Freestyle Tour (electric blue), and yes the original lower cable supplied with the bike was different. The dual cables (above the splitter) measure 4 inches in length, if I recall correctly, whereas the after market Gyro replacement cables were much longer. I always preferred the look of the factory cable, as it matches the catalog and doesn’t look so saggy. Thank you for the info; I never realized the factory lower cables were made by a different brand than Odyssey. I always figured they were made that length to better fit the distance to the hole in the down tube, and not necessarily the cable guide pictured on the prototype frames in the ‘87 catalog. That sure is a beautiful ‘88 you’ve got there! Looks very much like mine, but I’ve got the sealed mechanism mags, one-piece cranks and in ‘92 I swopped out the inverted stem for a 1985 white block stem I found in a bike shop. Stay RAD.👍
@mikes14392 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these keep it up. I love to see anything vintage BMX.
@dronejunglistplatoonАй бұрын
thx man! insightful stuff here when we go to make this purchase!
@ragereset18292 жыл бұрын
Good info! The shorter cable on the 88 looks perfect and tidy. I prefer the looped down longer cable on the 87 as it doesnt sit over the GT logo. More of these types of for us newbies please
@AmazingChinaToday2 жыл бұрын
GT's "cable through the downtube" was a terrible design, a gimmick. I would run the cable along the bottom of the downtube, so it has less bends and the brakes perform better. Hope you ride the bike, enjoy it while you can!
@atrains2 жыл бұрын
AmazingChina….that’s an interesting take and one that is subject to personal opinion. Gimmick, not so much as trying to keep the cables out of the way. I’ve never had issues with the cable routing through the downtube BITD but we were all kids and only 150 lbs give or take. The pros like Martin Aparijo was probably 170 lbs and he was able to do phenomenal tricks on his GT PFT TM’s from ‘87-‘88. He was AFA champion after all. Now are you arguing that straight pull such as the new school linear rear brakes are better than the set up from 1987-1989 when the cables went through the downtube? That’s Apples to oranges anyway because of the detangler (gyro). The shortest distance between two points is a straight line so no argument from me there but if you set up the brakes properly even the DC 990 and the PFT can work perfectly for most riders. To each their own. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@AmazingChinaToday2 жыл бұрын
@@atrains I always prefer fewer cable bends, the less curves in the cable, the better. 😁 Factory riders often used ridiculous manufaturer inventions simply because the manufacturer wanted them to. It's marketing. I remember Dennis McCoy blasting state-of-the-art flatland routines, with 4 axle pegs, and then doing a silly ultra-basic trick that was just riding while standing on the upper Haro fork peg. I doubt McCoy thought that lame trick added to his score, and it wasted valuable time. But it used the cool Haro fork peg! 😁 Some pros then even ran an ACS Rotor, years after it was rendered obsolete by the Odyssey Gyro. Same story: marketing. The freestyle industry was, and still is, a business to sell parts and make money after all. Awesome GT bike you have, and hopefully you ride it occasionally!
@jeffgraves4564 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Odyssey had several different cables for the gyro back in the 80’s. I had the adjustable on mine when I bought one for my diamond back.
@gabesgarage4522 Жыл бұрын
Awesome info! Nice bike! Wondering if I made the dice that you have on this beauty? Thanks for the Cool video
@atrains Жыл бұрын
Gabe’s Garage I don’t recall where I got the dice caps from. Either Evilbay or the BMXMUSEUM. Thanks for watching and commenting. Check out my other GT videos.
@gabesgarage4522 Жыл бұрын
@@atrains could have been either, we sell on both. Thanks for the reply
@4by_yotaguy3738 ай бұрын
I did learn something new, thank you! Subscribed! 👍
@MorbidThrasher6662 жыл бұрын
Nice knowledge. More vids bro! Id like to know why the GT Epoch freestyle version from 86 went from engraved to non engraved.
@atrains2 жыл бұрын
I can make a video about that as well. It’s on my list
@eddylorenzo50332 жыл бұрын
I'd put a little rubber or piece of tape under the metal piece of the gyro on bottom frame rail so paint doesn't get rubbed off
@atrains2 жыл бұрын
Smart
@eddylorenzo50332 жыл бұрын
@@atrains a piece of 3m double sided tape would be perfect if u really wanted to be paint safe u can put a piece of clear tape on bottom of metal y flange and on frame then put the double side tape in between both that would look clean and unnoticeable
@skyelee93982 жыл бұрын
I found the cable. Now all i need is the complete bike. 😮
@atrains2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@rgw1380rw2 жыл бұрын
😂👍🏾
@radvision26315 ай бұрын
Hello, can I ask is the 89 performer with the crash test decals any more desirable or rare than any other for that year ? Just wondering
@Bimmer357 ай бұрын
The only thing I don't like is the whale tail type frame standers and the GT fold down fork standers. They never came on any of the pro freestyle tours and by the time they made that bike nobody used them because they were pretty much useless for all the rolling and scuffing tricks by that time but I guess it's down to personal preference and the bike looks great either way
@atrains7 ай бұрын
Well that’s not entirely true. Starting in 1987 the Pro Freestyle Tour came with fold down fork standers and Gen 1 frame standers. This carried into 1990. I agree they were somewhat useless and I removed them from my ‘88 PFT BITD. But they did come on the PFT and TM.
@Bimmer357 ай бұрын
@@atrains yes your correct, my bad. I thought they came on earlier pro performers. I know mine came with the white GT axle pegs.
@dangoodman73749 ай бұрын
Amazing survivor. Where is the bike shop sticker from?
@atrains9 ай бұрын
Clyde Dunaway
@ChromeSalvationBMX2 жыл бұрын
I use monster cables on some builds. Easier to find and essentially the same as odyssey cables. I just put odyssey decals on em.
@atrains2 жыл бұрын
That’s fine. I pretty much am not against using whatever cables for your builds. I have Odyssey on a few of mine. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@francissobotka87256 ай бұрын
The shorter cables were made by odyssey for gt
@atrains6 ай бұрын
No they were not. We have found markings on them. CS usually, especially on the upper cable.
@jackizuzu72892 жыл бұрын
Oddessy of course
@atrains2 жыл бұрын
Jackizuzu7289 I thought the same as you did. After all Odyssey gyro so naturally odyssey gyro cables. However when I purchased the PP/PFT lower gyro cables from the bike shop that was selling them, the packaging was not Odyssey’s. The cables are the real deal. Measured against survivor cables from ‘87-‘89 bikes. There is zero evidence to prove Odyssey made them. The package was very dusty and stained so not thinking ahead 10 or years when I would make the video, the packaging was discarded. If you have proof the lower cables were Odyssey, I’m interested to see it.
@Wildstylegrafix6 ай бұрын
@atrains I read somewhere recently that they were Odyssey produced and GT bought them all (the short version) I haven't the slightest clue if it's true or just assumption but seems like maybe a good play back then.