GT3 Touring Ownership Update + YOUR Questions Answered | TheCarGuys.tv

[@gt3pdl884]

On the manual blip heal toe down shift you mentioned, you have to wait until the you shift out of the higher gear before you blip the throttle, once the shifter is out of the higher gate, in neutral, or in the downshifted gear, the computer will allow the engine blip/rev freely for proper manual heel toe downshifts. I agree it is a bit annoying not to be able to start the blip while in the higher gear, but once you get used to blipping the throttle mid-gear change the manual heel toe process works great. It just adds another element of timing to get correct on your down shifts. Hope this is helpful, give it a try.

[@tonysheabo]

Laughed when you gave Meridian Ferrari a cheeky glance while driving through Lyndhurst, always looking for another car!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

😂😂😂

[@riottownrecords]

Seriously why the f*ck doesn't this channel have more subscribers? It is literally the most informative, least annoying car youtube channel around! Keep it up guys! Loving it!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much 👍👍👍

[@pitmanzek5436]

Porsche makes cars for cars lovers. 911 R is made for collectors but Porsche didn't forget those who like driving great cars, so they made the gt3 touring who's more affordable but still great. They respect theirs clients. Let's hope they'll continue to do so for long. Long live naturally aspirated engines.

[@byrong1561]

The GT3 Touring is one of those rare cars that does it all.

[@brianhimmelman420]

Thank you for video ... My Touring came alive with Dundon Motorsports Street headers and intake -38lbs ... power increase 50lbs torque in mid range, Antigravity lithium battery -35lbs and BBS FIR wheels -24lbs combined reduces 100 lbs weight ... love the ethos of pure drivers road car

[@Carbondan]

I absolutely 100% agree with you on the heel-toe problem - I have the exact same issue with my 2018 GT3 manual. It's the worst choking feeling as the nannies suppress what should be a beautifully free revving engine. It is my one and only big complaint about the GT3, otherwise, I consider it the best car I've ever owned and a lifetime keeper. I daily drive mine. Drove it from Seattle to California for a track weekend at thunderhill last week (2300 miles round trip) and will be doing the same for a trip down to Laguna Seca next month (~3000 miles round trip). Currently sitting around 12k glorious miles. The heel toe problem is related to Porsche's no-lift-upshift coding. Essentially, the ECU thinks that when you press the clutch in and then press on the throttle, that you are planning on no lift upshifting, so it holds the revs constant. Problem is the thresholds for this are way out of wack. It should only engage no lift upshifting if you are sitting at 100% throttle (hence, NO LIFT upshift). If throttle percentage is 95% or lower, it should allow the engine to rev freely. I hope a tuner can sort that feature out - I will gladly pay to update the ECU code to get rid of no lift upshifting, which is a gimmick at best and potentially catastrophic at worst.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Interesting - you are the first person to verify it

[@jafooli]

Surely this is a deal breaker? What's the point of a manual that you can't rev match or heel and toe?

[@Rynardts]

My favourite GT3 of all time, simply because it's so understated, yet a monster.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

It sure is

[@meatlocker9628]

I own a 2019 GT3 Touring (US model). I have no trouble heel toeing the revs as high as needed. I run sport mode off and use it all the time. Also, when the car is rolling at least 3mph put the car in neutral and you can free rev all the way to red line. Totally agree this is my forever car. 12,000 miles already!

[@anandpushkar7510]

I hope they never stop making the touring it fits perfectly between their road and track models,I love it

[@TheCarGuysTV]

First 3 cowardly anonymous 'Dislikes' appear. If only they had the balls to actually say why...

[@markfoster4948]

That’s Ferrari drivers for you....! 😉

[@themadplotter]

Pricks that work for Yianni?

[@horatiotimewaster5755]

Jealousy?

[@2meninamotor112]

That's an easy one to answer mate. Jealousy. Why subscribe an watch something that you're jealous of. Try an get your brain around that one. Anyway we hope you are both keeping well an hopefully meet up soon take care

[@andrewtaylor5972]

Fantastic content to be fair. Balanced, fair and two likeable car guys. Keep up the great videos! You get my like

[@At_The_Glen]

Here I am nearly two years after you posted this video. So a belated "thank you" for a very lovely and thoughtful video. I had a 991.2 GT3 and loved it as a daily driver. I now have a 992 Turbo S as it was better suited for our home in Old Town Alexandria, VA where I lived at the time - a historic area with homes from the late 1700s, a couple cobblestone streets and a thriving restaurant where George Washington, Benjamin Franklin joined other friends for dinner. BTW, I had asked a question after watching your Turbo S review (Clive's Guards Red TTS) wondering if he had the Sport-PASM suspension based on your comments about the ride. Here in the U.S. on the Rennlist Member Forum, the divide between regular and S-PASM is as set in concrete as firmly as the debates about PDK vs. manual transmission, winged vs. Touring GT3 and the two political parties. I have regular PASM and am totally happy with it and I like a firm ride and sometimes drove my GT3 with the suspension in track mode. Aside from an automatic family sedan, I always had a manual transmission sports/sporty car until 2010 when cars like 911 Turbo were only available with PDK. I loved double-clutch, heel-and-toe downshifting so I was aghast and disappointed to learn that it might not be fully defeatable. Last week I visited a Porsche dealer where I've purchased cars in the past. I was told that it is defeatable in the 992 generation. I hope that is true because the experience that you described in a race-bred sports car is hugely disappointing. At the risk of winning an award for the longest comment in the history of YouTubism, I will close. Oh, wait. Here is a video of my 991.2 GT3 that I did with a friend four years ago. Cheers! Love your videos! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2PKXqmugbCMrqs

[@morganmorris2698]

What about painting wheels silver, chrome strip window surround and badges going silver, would be my perfect spec, lovely as it is though

[@michaeljohncooper]

Agree. Touring should have silver wheels and chrome trim.

[@andyknoxvegas7681]

Exact way I spec'd mine. Love the silver accents the most. Even my silver seatbelts in an otherwise black interior.

[@cheshirered9204]

Glad you're enjoying using it as it was intended. So many collectibles just don't get driven, which is a bit of a shame.

[@Frostyrides]

I share similar feelings of the GT3 Touring! I’m a little biased as I have one in the same spec (with the ceramics) and I will never sell this car. I agree wholeheartedly that this one is for life. (I’d love a 911r to admire in my garage though!)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

If the ceramics are as good as in my 718 Spyder, then I would definitely prefer those

[@michaeljohncooper]

As a fellow owner who has had from new totally agree. Very special indeed.

[@ClubBlau]

Awesome review, I couldn't agree with your points more - not just about how great it is, but also about the Touring moniker. I'm glad that was the only part of the car that seems to have been an afterthought - blame the marketing department! ;) I have had mine for almost 3 years and it is the first car out of about 50 cars I've had that I plan to keep forever - a status I thought no car would ever earn with me. It is certainly better than all the rest. Over 30,000 miles (or perhaps much more!) and going super strong still! I am not sure how many track days I've been to, but it's handled them all perfectly.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Great - thanks for your awesome comments, Club 👍

[@ClubBlau]

@@TheCarGuysTV what would you have more appropriately named this model of Porsche if you didn't have to worry about upsetting 911R owners like Porsche had to do? I would have named it either: 1. 911 GT - simple, straightforward, shouldn't bother 911R or GT3 owners, and doesn't imply it's a soft version. Bonus: it was written on the first GT car (993 GT2) 2. Carrera R - obviously would piss of 911R owners, but follows the precedent of Cayman R.

[@Lukec4ge]

One of, if not, the best car on KZbin.

[@jamesrichards5601]

I saw you driving it through Lymington the other week, it's got such presence on the road. Looked fab! That heel & toe-stopping feature would drive me insane on this car, I wonder if there is a way of re-programming the ecu to stop it from doing that?

[@meatlocker9628]

I own a 2019 GT3 Touring and with sport mode off I can heel and toe the revs as high as I want. Not sure why you can't in your car. One other tip. If you put the car in neutral while in motion you can rev the motor as high as you want. This is a forever car for me too! 12,000 miles on mine already. Love it!

[@michaeljohncooper]

@@meatlocker9628 same for me. No issue with the heel and toe. Needed it on a recent track day.

[@markdavis911time]

It's so refreshing to hear a true enthusiast: I'm so pleased you're using your car as a daily and intend to get some REAL use out of it. Although I only have a lowly 991.1 C4S it's all the car I could want and despite being told I would ruin the value if I piled on the miles, I never think about how far I'm driving because life in the car is so much more enjoyable than life out of it... Keep up the great work and enjoying your Touring 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Mark. Nothing wrong with a C4S. Perfect daily driver.

[@markdavis911time]

@@TheCarGuysTV Thanks Damian!

[@lukewaring2832]

Thanks for the honest assessment and costs. Refteshing to have an owner who Appreciates what they have.Nice to see someone who actually drives it,owns it ,and pays for it. Enjoy every second in it. Thanks as ever for sharing 👌😎 Stay safe.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mattylf1]

You drove past Meridian without stopping !!! Love that touring, glad you’re driving it as it should be 👍

[@thomaslahr9022]

I'm with you on the red dials...just the right splash of color.

[@alastairwardle3981]

Great video Damian, thanks for the update on your ownership experience. It’s a deeply deeply desirable car, can’t blame you for wanting to keep it forever. Keep up the great work and thanks for giving us something different with your channel for the car enthusiast.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks 👍

[@adampenny1406]

great video thanks Damien! awesome class car choice, just had no idea that the soft limiter stops rev matching at higher RPM, seems crazy to do that to a performance car, presumably this isn't the same for the regular GT3 manual?

[@wisruteb]

That heel-n-toe issue you mentioned seems unusual. Mine works fine. Have your OPC look into this. You're right, this car is for life. As Jerry Seinfeld says, it's a dead man's car.

[@michaeljohncooper]

Agree mine is fine too. Think there must be a fault

[@mikeb7117]

In summary: Owning a GT3 Touring is bloody amazing

[@anandpushkar7510]

Yes it is

[@Ronstar1266]

My weekly fix of The Car Guys now sorted, until next Friday. thanks Damien

[@niosanfrancisco]

Lovely car and great choice of Spike’s Car Radio. Brothers over the pond….

[@joeychaseable]

It is nice to see a youtuber say they're gonna keep a car like this. I believe it will be his "forever" car. Well done sir!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I appreciate that!

[@geoffclarke8934]

Fantastic car and all the better for the manual gearbox. Agree the inability to heal and toe is annoying.

[@peterrandall3369]

Love the gaze at a certain car dealership in lyndhurst.

[@egon197]

I have no issues at all with heel and toeing in my touring. It works perfect.

[@michaeljohncooper]

I don’t have an issue Rev matching in my Touring. Heeling and toeing is fine so find this really odd. Have you had it checked out? Otherwise agree with what you say, I think best car I’ve ever had.

[@gogolio]

x2

[@andyknoxvegas7681]

My Touring's heel/toe blips fine too

[@shakespeareracing7822]

same here, I haven't had that issue on my touring, heel and toe in this car is magical

[@stefanjust1912]

You won’t be surprised to hear my broken record comment: „fabulous summary and good to see a fellow Touring user enjoying the car in daily life !“. Let’s connect when you come to Germany. Are you replacing the tires with Cup-2 or consider something more winter ready ?

[@cj41079]

one of my favorite in your collection.....such a nice pickup....baby 911R

[@AkashSaha1]

I have a simple solution for your podcast volume gripe! Just leave your pcm in the ‘media’ page before you plug in your phone. That way when you turn it on, it opens up on media mode and nothing is playing *silence*. Then you proceed to plug your phone in!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I'll give it a go

[@peterkirton4580]

That clip of you driving the road from Brecon is one of my favourite drives

[@horatiotimewaster5755]

Could you modify the heel/toe behavior with an obdII tool? Love your GT3...I could live with that spec forever....gorgeous. Any road trips coming up? The alps episode was fantastic.

[@alangordon8940]

Another fab honest review, love the humour, esp the ‘knowing nod’ that sums up the brits!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@stav55]

Great video sir. You are a true car guy and enthusiast. It really is tough to beat a Porsche for daily driving.

[@giuseppecumbo5123]

I think I could be pursuaded to like this car even if its not a Ferrari!

[@andyknoxvegas7681]

Absolutely spot-on review of the GT3T. Congrats and thanks for sharing. I also have a black GT3T (with proper black dials! ;-) ) and wouldn't take $100K over what I paid for it. Always sublime - and you are right on the zero attention - except from other Porsche GT owners...

[@richardzhou9270]

Great video once again Damian! So the ECU limits how high the revs go when you downshift? Is it the same for the other GT3 manual with a wing?

[@HiddenWen]

Haha, a Turbo S isn't exactly a sensible daily from a price perspective. But it's definitely the best daily for most people if money were no issue. It'd be a hard pick between the touring and turbo S for best daily.

[@YYama-tr5hh]

I equally love my black gt3 touring, I am tempted to upgrade to 992 if it’s only limited to Manual transmission because I think that might be the last generation with 4L NA

[@richardbeaumont5358]

Damian great to see you still using this wonderful car on a daily basis. Give me a shout when you plan on your Germany tour and I'll give you all the inside gen and support you need to make it an unforgettable adventure ;)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

It’s a deal! 👍

[@richardbeaumont5358]

@@TheCarGuysTV Tom (Ashgoods) will give you my contact details ;)

[@charliemacklin7017]

Thanks for answering my question, completely agree that the Gt3 touring is better than a speedster. Love a good touring

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Any time!

[@WightBear72]

The A35 from Christchurch to Lyndhurst. I know that road very well!

[@ghowells5433]

I absolutely love my 991.2 gt3, faultless. I’m about to change the tyres and thinking about the Michelin 4 s sport instead of the cup 2 which are a bit sketchy in the wet. Do you have any views, I couldn’t see what tyres you had on. Great owners video review by the way.

[@andyknoxvegas7681]

Pilot Sport 4S are PERFECT for the roads. Just get them

[@ghowells5433]

@@andyknoxvegas7681 yep fitted last weekend

[@ghowells5433]

@Andrew Morten they have been really good so far, allowed me to use the car in the wet and cold without the issues of the cup tyres. I’ve done a test day at millbrook on them and the dry grip was still brilliant. No regrets

[@ghowells5433]

@Andrew Morten I’ve done training days at millbrook on the cups and 4s and honestly the difference is pretty marginal. I guess if you are doing track days each weekend I’d stick to the cup but for a combo of track days and road I think the 4s is an unbeatable tyre. Turn in is still mind blowing, you think, it turns. Part of the decision was like road trips, took it to Scotland on the cups and the mixed weather the cups were pretty sketchy, hence the change to the 4s. Other owners on the Porsche club site give similar views of the 4s. I’ve had it a couple of years and thinking of ordering a 992 turbo cab so I can use it on longer road trip, not sure the gt3 is a special car isn’t it.

[@markjohnson8352]

Beautifully understated somehow. I think you know a keeper from the start.

[@davemclean8667]

Truly enjoyed the video! I appreciate the Porsche and how you walk us through as if we were in passenger seat! The pista spider road trip is my favorite of all.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@chrise2329]

A Touring would be on the Lottery win list for sure. I'm amazed to hear that about the heel and toe, can't believe that's the case on a Motorsport Porsche?!

[@petedavis8701]

Great car obviously and I think your “Welsh drive” video was one of the most enjoyable I have watched, and Indonwatch them all

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Pete

[@HawkMillFarm]

Great roundup, great car, I’d personally have to swap the gauges to white though. I’m on my 3rd 911 and can’t see a day when I don’t have one. Those that know why know why.

[@stuartsmith5308]

How about a video with Jason. Your top 10 most exciting cars , each of you have driven. Not always the fastest cars are the most fun. Even slow cars can be a lot of fun.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Trouble is, the F40 would be all of Jason's top ten! :)

[@markscars1069]

Nice to see Lyndhurst. Haven’t been down there for years :)

[@paulypoos1]

The little cheeky glance into Meridien's as you went pass. 😉 I'll see you in there again one day. Keep up the good work mate.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Paul

[@Vampiric373]

When i read the radio blasting sound i had to laugh. I hate it so much when it happens in my 2017 turbo s.

[@zzhughesd]

Sniff and Smith is literally unbelievable insanely ace.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes it is

[@gogolio]

That's really strange, I have the same car and it doesn't stop me heel and toeing. You can rev it as much as you like.

[@egon197]

Agree , zero issues in my as well.

[@amirjon]

I wish we could get the Sport Buckets. Had them in my 997.2 GTS. I have the LWB in my RS and am thinking 4-ways in the Touring.

[@Br1anuk]

Great update Damian and no bloody adverts for Lloyds Bank. Ahhhhhhhh

[@garyg5947]

Another great Friday evening review!! Honest and genuine as always!! Keep it up!! 👍👍👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you! Will do!

[@pnoyryder68]

Love the video man as this is my dream car. That face you made tho giving it the beans was priceless!

[@jon.steele]

Yep great car, that and a 675Lt the perfect two car garage for me

[@capitaljbcomics3738]

great video !! i am very happy you will keep it for ever !! Porsche can relax on making the GT3 touring after i get my 992 :) 😃

[@phil-jz1mj]

What a car ! So nice to see it being driven and enjoyed.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@phillsmith9255]

Great video as normal Damian and the GT3 Touring would definitely be in my garage, I do think you should give an Aston Martin V12 S AMR manual a look as well, I'd definitely have one alongside the GT3 Touring.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Good choice!

[@Vinttro]

Always a pleasure to watch your channel. Keep up the good work guys ✌🏼

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Much appreciated!

[@TallDrink911]

I also love that my Instagram question was answered at 5:27 Thank you

[@Racerman27410]

I like the idea of having and driving the car as much as you want...That is exactly why i follow your channel and what cars are made for. Porsche used to be known as drivers cars so i cannot possibly understand how the Alliance against fun got involved in the project and mangled the electronics to prevent a proper heel and toe. I could understand maybe if it was that way for first gear to protect the engine against a money shift but I'll never understand how anyone at Porsche thought it was a great idea to sell a manual shift car with half the fun of actually driving a manual electronically neutered...How can you possibly make time down a twisty road when you have to lug the engine out of every 2nd and 3rd gear corner? very disappointing "feature" indeed. I know i would be searching for a way to disable it.... especially a car i planned to keep for the long haul. Cheers!

[@joaoabreu5]

Just can't understand why Porsche removed the back in seats in this Touring package as well... it would be the perfect car for sure.

[@Carlos-wm6ev]

why do you want 2 useless seats in race car?

[@joaoabreu5]

@@Carlos-wm6ev race car? You must joking, right? This is a road car... a FXX is race car... a GT3 is a road car able to do some track use, but it’s not a race car...

[@Carlos-wm6ev]

@@joaoabreu5 you are smart

[@cutdepiefails6596]

Because they are mostly used as shelves. You could maybe put a baby or two, but that's it and for some short drives, because the car would be space restrained for baby stuff space. Not disagreeing, a kid or a dog space would not hurt, but it did well without them, while protecting the gt3 image, saving some extra pennies and no one really cared.

[@andyknoxvegas7681]

Rear seats in 911s are merely noise dampers. Drive a 4.0l NA GT3 and enjoy the SOUND!

[@kmac5849]

Enjoyed that,time flew by👍🏻

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad to hear it

[@paulthorpe766]

Have you driven the Llandovery South road towards Swansea and the road from Lake Bala to Betws-y-Coed - two great roads I get up at 4.00am to do a few times a year, and ones we used a lot in Evo in the noughties!

[@981boxster2]

Love these rapid fire questions

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@philnj1962]

I reprogrammed my 1971 911 to support heel and toe better.... purchased a pair of driving shoes ... :-).

[@TheCarGuysTV]

😂😂

[@lukeg3328]

Mine was the last question! Thanks for answering, sounds like a great memory!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

You bet!

[@andrewhurstcars]

January 2022, and it’s probably now worth what you paid for it Damian!

[@Adam-vi5qp]

Love this video, as used to also daily a 996.1 GT3. Have a 991.2 Gt3. Both are epic

[@ny6u]

Marvelous chat lad keep up the great content 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Much appreciated

[@ricardopintocorreia9476]

how is the ride in terms of confort comparing with a normal carrera s model?

[@sammooresphoto]

I keep going back and forth on whether to just lump up the cash and get one of these. I'm interested in the point you said about not being able to turn off autoblip. Oddly I've driven a normal 991.2 gt3 and without sport mode on there didn't seem to be any odd interactions whatsoever. Did they change something in this car? You should come on the podcast at some point, would be nice to meet.

[@sammooresphoto]

oh and keep up the videos. I like checking in occasionally to see what x,y,z are like from an ownership perspective. It's very different when someone has stumped up their own cash or seriously considering purchasing/not purchasing something. Cheers Sam

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Sounds like a great idea, Sam - I’d be honoured to be on the show

[@michaelcampbell4503]

Great video Damian. Love the 1st world problems you have with it...must remember to give you a head nod ..

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Absolutely

[@sarcodiauk2921]

Brilliant update ....thanks for your ownership thoughts

[@TheCarGuysTV]

My pleasure

[@HoratioHoodoo]

So apparently if you blip after the shift it doesn't limit revs... although some people have no issue at all.

[@lovepajamas1482]

Thank you for answering my question about the dials!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍👍

[@ubonrat8653]

You're right "touring"is a terrible name for a great product, not being able to heel toe would be a deal breaker for me

[@Brass-and-Bullets]

Yes, because thats extremely important on the road.

[@AGC828]

Is this a 2019 GT3 Touring? Seems the GT3 is no longer on the website for 2020. If I could afford a GT3 it would be the base model or the Touring (PDK if they offered it...odd they don't..yet).

[@flubsterunited]

Thank you for answering my question!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Any time!

[@jason22spurs]

Well done great stuff

[@hasantopcu2213]

Damian ever thinking of driving it towards the end of Europe :D would really like to meet you and have a chat in Turkey :D Hope to do it in England one day too :)

[@nunoribeiro1298]

Portugal on the list 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@paulpressland]

Great update. Rarer than an R in UK RHD spec

[@michaeljohncooper]

Better engine than an R too

[@martinboulden3540]

Another fantastic video Mr Butt.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👏👏👏

[@jesperhvid9667]

Love the Smith and Sniff podcast on the Carplay

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍👍 I wonder if they’ve seen it?

[@ghibli608]

I find your remark concerning the size of the 992 very interesting ! I agree: all the cars are becoming too big. My 997GT3 is the perfect size... in my opinion. Previously I had a Ferrari 355, that was perfectly sized as well. I love the 458, but it’s so big. Do you prefer your 718 over the 991, sizewise?

[@TheCarGuysTV]

The 718 does feel nippier but I like the squat stance of the GT3

[@gvsskier5011]

The heel and toe shift “rubber sensor” issue I’ve not experienced in my GT3 Touring Canadian Model?

[@matsleight]

Another enjoyable episode!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Matt

[@tripletboxing4368]

Damien, it seemed like you enjoyed those beans a little too much LOL but I totally get it though 4:20

[@Tj930]

Surely somebody (RUF etc) must have a cure for the rev-matching? Edit: Soft Limiters are evil

[@dangriffiths9813]

Keep the red dials!