Guaranteed* Audio Episode 22 | See These? CDs!

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Special guest MING DOYLE joins Neil & Kevin (sorry Ryan-heads, no Ryan today) in a discussion of our early-2000s music consumption habits. Fun fact: This episode would not fit on a standard audio CD!
00:00 Introductions and catching up
07:30 ⚡ Media Current ⚡
20:30 How We Accessed Music When We Were Younger???
1:16:20 Questions From Patrons

[@djvibekiller]

As a zoomer I can confirm that young people still listen to albums in full (though playlists are arguably the most popular mode of listening now)

[@floridaflamingogirl3119]

Gen Z-er here, and I absolutely cannot stand listening to an artist’s discography on shuffle. I have to listen to an album all the way through. It just makes sense. It’s a fully-formed creative statement. The songs go together.

[@JunoJasmine]

As a gen z I can confirm but I myself prefer listening to albums opposed to playlist.

[@bunjection]

same!! ofc you need to listen EVERY song from the album!

[@flowersbyphone2554]

yeah it definitely varies from person to person - i often listen to a lot of albums in full (but also listen to individual songs, usually not if i want to hear the whole album first though) - i occasionally like making/adding to personal playlists (not on spotify, i don't use it) when inspiration strikes but that's about it (i kind of barely even listen to them, i just like to sort songs sometimes)

[@meli_lemon_real]

MING IS SO FUNNY

[@KevinJamesVideo]

🎵 Bloodhounds Incorporated🎵

[@una_10bananas]

Damn you kevin now I have that looping in my head 😅

[@ErnestTrailers]

God dammit

[@PrincessCarmel]

I am a teenager and I collect CDs all the time. I listen to them in the car when I'm driving and at home when im in bed, because its much easier to put on a cd than it is to mess around with a playlist on spotify or something. Because of this, i tend to collect cds that are nice to the ears or surreal for when I sleep. Another reason I collect cds are because of the artwork. I bought The Residents - In Between Dreams Live CD Longbox almost exclusively because it has such incredible artwork (seriously, look it up). It's nice to own a piece of physical artwork along with the album. All this, not to mention the fact that it helps support artists more directly than spotify listens, makes cds my favorite thing to collect.

[@floridaflamingogirl3119]

CDs make so much sense for listening to in cars. I don’t like having to fiddle with Bluetooth and aux cords.

[@Swishiee]

Neil being excited about the prospect of a Ska cover of the Critic theme song got me. I'd be excited for that too.

[@StereoTyp0]

CDs nuts

[@icklemon07]

Hehe, got em

[@computerfighter2000]

comedy at its finest

[@Golden4craft]

Let's gooooooo new guaranteed audio episode. OMG and with ming??? This can"t get any better

[@GarthMcMurray]

I'm an old Gen X person (just 4 years shy of being a Boomer), & I loved using audio cassettes to tape songs off the radio. Instead of testing how fast I could hit record, I would often just record an hour of radio & then use my dual cassette stereo or boombox to edit out the good songs on to another tape. If the radio DJ talked over the start or end of the song too much I deemed it not worthy of saving yet. I'd wait for a better copy. I loved making mixtapes for friends & girls I liked. Oh, and the name of the Netflix mailing DVDs when they split if rom the streaming service was Qwikster.

[@GarthMcMurray]

Oh, and to share a CD story when things switched over to CDs my car still only had a cassette player so I had to get the cd player to cassette player converter (a plastic cassette shaped thing you put in the cassette player with a wire to your CD player). So I would play CDs in my Discman with a wire to my car stereo & the Discman of course would skip all the time whenever I hit any bump in the road. Very frustrating.

[@austinmitchell2652]

Funnily enough, some of my earliest burned CDs were lemon demon mixes! Great episode

[@BabbyGGGgG]

Ming was great in this she was funny and spoke about interesting things, I would love to hear her appear more in the show in the future

[@donnylurch4207]

Ming's Matrix CD art is iconic 🤘

[@BlazeHedgehog]

My iconic mislabeled song from Napster was "Final Fantasy X Main World Map Theme (Symphonic)" or something similar. I never played FFX, so for decades I just took it at face value. And I was obsessed with the song; it was one of the most beautiful pieces of music I'd ever heard. I gushed about it to my friends who also apparently did not realize it was not from Final Fantasy X. Eventually I began to suspect it had been mislabeled and it was not until just a couple years ago I finally figured out it was a symphonic version of Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven. This was a song that almost brought me to tears as a teenager, and I had no idea it was... Stairway. I mean, I knew *of* Stairway to Heaven, I'd seen Wayne's World and whatnot, but the two dots never connected in my head until then, and it left me feeling so... weird to learn the truth.

[@MiltoniusPrime]

I'm exactly one day older than Neil and I got a kick out of it.

[@kanalet8460]

yayyy guaranteed audio my favorite thing to listen to on my compact disc player

[@haate151]

Okay as a younger viewer this was actually pretty fun to listen to! Ive never really gotten the chance to have physical media (besides some cds) so its really cool to learn what its like to have used them!

[@erinsquest406]

I’m so happy you guys answered blur to my question. I LOVE them and Gorillaz (seen them twice this year) and it made me so happy to hear answers to both of my questions :))

[@g--stef4756]

25 here. I regularly listen to and buy albums and did so even as a kid, heck, one of my christmas gifts from my teenage years was a CD player. I buy digital albums because they're very easily available, but my folks have an enormous collection of CDs, and I myself also buy CDs whenever possible because physical media is king and/or to get the good shit that can't be bought digitally easily. I have never used that Spotify doohickey in my life. I also torrent regularly and do not pay for any streaming service.

[@KevinJamesVideo]

1:17:35 ... I think Neil edited in Bruce Springstone singing about the Flinstones.

[@memth02]

I thought it sounded like The Flintstones, but that felt like such a strange crossover I dismissed the thought.

[@wizardly9211]

I've become a huge fan of this awesome podcast

[@evydae1208]

listening to this as a person who is way to young to relate to stuff like burning cds is so fun

[@evydae1208]

i can relate to pirating things tho but instead of music or shows or movies its games like im pretty sure half the games on my pc are pirated (Plz dont arrest me)

[@evydae1208]

personally i do prefer physical media but sadly its a lot harder to just walk into a store and buy a cd yk but especially like books or movies i like having a physical copy of it but whatever

[@assblaster420]

fr

[@eatfriesplspls]

39:00 I'm rly glad yall sorta talked abt Instagram/Facebook reels cause I too hate them, and as an artist I can't do shite because Instagram is showing more support for reels rather than posts and its infuruating. plus they're never interesting. They're always just stolen tiktoks

[@carl6982]

Daaang, a ryan-head myself it's a shame he isnt for this one on the other hand i'm still very excited to watch a new upload from the guaranteed crew!! Les Goooo 👌❤️

[@emma-rg9ny]

i love these so much :D

[@PogieJoe]

Such a wonderful discussion. You should have Ming on more often!

[@kanalet8460]

CICIEREGARGOYLES!!!!!

[@kikiscosmos4781]

I ran around the house when I realised there was a new garenteed audio with Neil in it

[@Paradiddler7]

I bought the 2021 Of Montreal album on mp3, only because it didn't get a physical release at all though. Also hi Neil from a fellow Needlejuice artist

[@Paradiddler7]

please check out more Blur, they are amazing. 13 is the wrong Blur to start Kevin on though, haha. Ming you were great the whole ep

[@dwarpmunder]

Loved this! You all came of age when i was just growing. It is really fun to hear of what was going on culturally and with media from this time. Puts my earliest memories into context! Very nice to hear from Ming too! Wishing yall the best and i cant wait for the next episode! Have a great one

[@lukeothedukeo]

I'm 23 and I'd say Ming kinda hit the nail on the head about indie vs. big artists. I love BandCamp for Neil and Paul Baribeau and finding a random Chinese punk band, but most people I know stick to Spotify unless they're really into a more indie scene. I still feel like pirating and torrenting are important because otherwise art lives and dies on streaming platforms. The best way for me to watch Infinity Train or Close Enough is on my Plex server, because the platform they were made for unceremoniously deleted them to avoid paying royalties. I feel like we might be coming close to that early 2000s tipping point again, where corporations want one thing, consumers want another, and artists get kinda screwed no matter which way we go, but at the same time there's a lot of promise in how publicized the WGA strike and artists speaking up against AI-image scraping, etc. Idk, but I like when the Internet was a bit weirder and less centralized, and I hope we get some of that back eventually.

[@crassinula]

me and my family where all behind the times with american technnology and stuff due to us being in mexico, so i was just a kid still ripping CDs before i went and bought any (and im only 18! now), i have a very distinct memory of going down to a cd shop with my dad, looking at albums and writting down the names of songs we liked on them then heading home and searching for them to burn into our own cds. we still have the repurposed photo album that's just filled with burned cds.

[@kiwithemartian]

lets gooooo 😌 will be listening to this in a bit

[@my_wheelhouse]

Does it say kick piss or kick ass??

[@mingdoyle]

This is answered in the episode, but I say: whichever you want, baybee

[@memth02]

I’m imagining someone running along the sidewalk in rain boots, joyfully kicking puddles of piss.

[@rakbuck5378]

Kick ass lmao

[@Vaishino]

I always ask people what the best Disney movie is just to see how many overlook the live action stuff and go with a cartoon when the objectively correct answer is Mary Poppins

[@floridaflamingogirl3119]

You are my kind of person. For me, #1 is Mary Poppins and #2 is Roger Rabbit…

[@toprak4892]

ming is literally an idol

[@flowersbyphone2554]

them talking about radio stations makes me want to explore the music stations on my car radio again - also this was very interesting to listen to, i love learning about stuff i wasn't aware of because i was either a young child/baby or not alive

[@hpalpha7323]

I still have the first CD I ever burned, it was around when anime first started getting big in the west in like 2000 so it was a bunch of anime and video game songs I downloaded from WinMX

[@ZyxthePest]

I was literally thinking about this podcast yesterday, glad to see you guys are back!

[@fistacuff1223]

Hello Neil

[@jaws7052]

guaranteed audio episode released on my birthday about one of my favorite topics ever yahoo!!!!!!!!!1

[@icklemon07]

Happy birthday buddy

[@jaws7052]

Thank you my friend

[@kanalet8460]

happy birthday! last episode was uploaded on my birthday wow its meant to be

[@jaws7052]

Real

[@clamdove3292]

i keep misreading kick ass as kick piss

[@sappho114]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! I love these!

[@wook1664]

Hell yesss! They're back!

[@computerfighter2000]

Coincidentally this episode came out around the time I got my dinosaurchestra cd lol

[@haate151]

YES NEW EPISODE

[@Timothyjackman]

cds are awesome! i’m gen z & yeah big fan of cds & listening to albums in order. have a whole bunch of cds in my car (which has a six stack cd player, no aux, no bluetooth, but no problem) all my favourite bands/albums i have on cd (including neil’s official ones). big fan of the order the artist intended

[@toyjadezie]

malice mizer and gackt mentioned hello?? also i love mings voice so much its so relaxing

[@HermitMongoose]

CDs? Nuts!

[@crassinula]

i love CDS

[@gio3087]

SWAG

[@nyssalikesbugs]

What's a basement?

[@paigek.5736]

best episode

[@fissionphoenix4995]

I'm not going to take offense to being called a child for enjoying Lemon Demon. Children who enjoy Lemon Demon are probably going to turn out alright compared to those who enjoy Tik Tok. Not that they're mutually exclusive but I think the ones who at least put time into listening to Lemon Demon will have a leg up over others.

[@floridaflamingogirl3119]

I will always have a special place in my heart for Neil’s music. It’s honestly a brilliant example of homemade geek rock.

[@wabbajocky8235]

brother, have you seen the comment section of any lemon demon video? the intersection is quite big

[@ErnestTrailers]

Today’s a good day.

[@una_10bananas]

I am younger than you (24) and enjoyed this a lot!

[@eatfriesplspls]

hello yes I am a youth, and I should learn how to burn discs because idk, the way yall are describing it sounds so fun???? Plus I collect DVDs and I feel like that's a practice I should partake in

[@computerfighter2000]

ive burnt a cd before its pretty fun & easy

[@carl6982]

Holy sht, a sex museum Xdb

[@juliusjoa3463]

42:00 Wait, did Neil do the track of Bordermouth yet?!

[@JuliusJoa]

No, he didn't. 😂😂😂😂 I was right. I'm correct.

[@potato._.1]

thought it said "kick piss" on the cd and was very confused haha

[@SpiritualDemo]

I don't understand short-form media either. Most of my peers at 27 are into them and I just don't understand it.

[@achikin4466]

49:00 nahh I pirate everything.this generation definitely knows how to pirate

[@meli_lemon_real]

is everlong really about sex :(

[@icklemon07]

Old lol

[@simonhxd]

First time listening, I thought "Kevin James" was the actor Kevin James. I am disappointed that its just some guy, maybe you could clarify that next time.

[@connor48880]

dude that’s literally his name That’s why he goes by Kevin J. James Did you think their friend Ryan Murphy produced American Horror Story?

[@erinsquest406]

@@KevinJamesVideo this sounds like a joke but if it’s not then that’s super odd

[@carl6982]

They've joked about it in another podcast xdD

[@simonhxd]

​@@KevinJamesVideo lol im just joking

[@KevinJamesVideo]

@@simonhxd Hah, noted and appreciated.

[@ibrahimattar2992]

The slower you put the video the more northern you

[@fissionphoenix4995]

Oh man the mention of mustard plug just reminds me of how much I dislike mustard plug. As a fan of ska in general I heard Mr. Smiley and quite enjoyed it and decided to just add a bunch of their songs to my playlist. Eventually I realized that I really didn't enjoy any of their songs. Mr. Smiley stayed on my playlist a bit longer for nostalgia's sake because it was a friend who had discovered and introduced it to me but I'd probably have to listen again to say exactly what it is that made me dislike them. I think part of it was just a lack of "heart," so to speak. Like Mr. Smiley - song is completely fabricated. I think it's one of their better songs because even if the story is made up it sort of gives the impression that it's based on a real situation but after I started to sour on Mustard Plug as a whole I also began to notice some chinks in that armor and feel the aforementioned lack of heart. Which is sort of a weird thing to criticize I guess since Neil revealed in his Spirit Phone commentary that there's not necessarily a deeper meaning to Spiral of Ants. He didn't intend for it to be like a social commentary or anything like that. That wasn't part of the heart he put into the music. The thing is I think there's heart in Neil's music anyway. He's really passionate about creating music that sounds good. Deeper meaning might not be intentional but it sort of ends up being there anyway just out of sheer goodness. I should stop typing because I'm clearly not a good critic by any stretch of the imagination.