Amaryllis is the best character in High Guardian Spice

Amaryllis is best girl no debate

[@jasmineflower2888]

The idea of not writing a school bully right is impressive about Amaryllis. Her snob and wealth are even tolerable.

[@reviewman]

That is because the foils to Amaryllis. Rosemary, Sage, Parsley and Thyme. Who are respectively: annoying, repugnant, Hypocritical, and bland.

[@OmniDan26]

imagine hating on wealth. You must be poor or a left winger.

[@Thepreacher_1]

@@reviewman Imagine that your main characters are so dislike for there personality that the snobby rich girl is more tolerable

[@schizophrenic_rambler]

@@Thepreacher_1 Thyme and Parsley aren't dislikeable, just mediocre, but had potential

[@ChatterboxFM]

@@schizophrenic_rambler Thyme teeters between tolerable and Chloe Price as the season progresses. She had potential to be interesting, but she’s such an asshole to her mom for no good reason other than angst for the sake of angst.

[@MegaGlassguy]

"Don't worry I'm here. At ease, poors." Two lines and I can already tell she's gonna be great.

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@danjoredd Oh my god it's the same energy indeed

[@taliyahwilliams5534]

Duck is such a mood lol

[@roachdoggjr1940]

The writing crew is most likely a group of Qunts with rich parents. It doesn't surprise me that they can write what they know.

[@jruler93]

There are basically four good things in this show; Amaryllis, Snapdragon, Amy's and Snap's friendship, and Slime Boy.

[@avidagamegerl1081]

Five good things: Parnell

[@ruegenthedragon]

there are seven actually: the chest monster that has a mouth 👁️👄👁️ and the ogre devil who did nothing wrong to thyme

[@enigmatic2878]

SQUID BOY! We all live thw side character that unfortunately has a terrible mic

[@cristiancamilocamachocombi9460]

almost everyone excep the two MCs...terrible characters,especially sage :P.

[@a.w.4708]

And Parsley most of the time. She had so much potential.

[@rachelisverycoo]

When the side characters are better than the main characters.

[@PauloJrchannel]

A side character that the writers wanted us to dislike, by the way.

[@channelofthelost5136]

That poor child who realized her life was on the line during the cave episode. I'm ashamed that I forgot girl's name. I hope she finds a better, safer future.

[@GatlingPea32]

If the side characters are better than the main characters, it means that the writing of your show is absolutely fucked tbh

[@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxS]

@@GatlingPea32 if the *side* characters are better than the main characters, it truly is a *side show*

[@HypercomboProduction]

Waluigi...

[@LilyBannel]

Amaryllis would've made an interesting lead. A rich witch from a not so nice place having to settle with dealing with people that are "beneath" her. Finding out her friend is in crisis over something not easily solved. A rival aka Sage that believes her method of magic isn't obsolete despite everyone saying it is and taking out her anger on Amaryllis who just wants her to face the facts... This is why I like the concept of Artemis Fowl. Seriously she gets most of the notable moments in the show for better or worse. It's like there was one good writer that saved most of it for her. I believe her friendship with Snap WAY more than Rosemary and Sage.

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Me too. The girl is rough around the edges but she is FAR better written than any other character in the show.

[@enigmatic2878]

And the fact that she's not a background characters makes it better

[@eveakane6563]

Huh, guess that does describe Artemis Fowl...in the book, not the sucky adaptation.

[@prcervi]

girl is still an archetype but she's one of the really hard ones to screw up writing, girl be a snob and bully to all but a select few and remains as such even in moments she shows care about her few exceptions

[@Uta_Chandra.H]

Add Olive the Catgirl, and you have Snap's true rival and lover😊 Oops is it too late for ship wars?

[@warhawk9566]

Honestly Parsley having the patience of a saint but also being willing to assault someone for insulting her friends could still work. Just add in a characterization of her being protective. Like "insult me all you want but don't say shit to the people i care about" you know?

[@Bladez10]

Mama Hen Parsley. That would make sense with her having to help with her brothers in the past. Now she has a new group of children to take care of.

[@SunnysFilms]

Also, maybe have Astor say something genuinely bad. It feels all the more out of character for Parsley because Astor isn't even being mean here. He's commending Rose and admitting he was shallow to judge her before. Then she brushes him off and he calls her out for being stuck up. That doesn't merit getting your foot smashed.

[@rolandswift4311]

@@Bladez10 One thing I imagined when thinking of ways to fix this train reck was to really lean on her being the group mom. I imagined a scene where Thyme was arguing with her mom and Parsley jumps up, grabs both of them by the ear, and drags them over to a corner to sit and stare until they're ready to act like adults. The whole thing would end with a punchline of Thyme's mother asking how a child put her in time-out. She had so much potential to be a source of comedy and wholesomeness with her huge family and the dynamic of her growing up as a sort of secondary mother.

[@williamstark9568]

@@SunnysFilms I'd also like to say that he had growing to do. Sure, he said it like a dumbass... but he is one. Rosemary is only SLIGHTLY smarter than him.

[@enigmatic2878]

@@SunnysFilms nor should parsley be rewarded

[@PauloJrchannel]

Amaryllis is the only thing that makes this show an 1/10 instead of a 0/10.

[@anti-usernamesaltaccount3623]

Make her the MC and it’s a 3/10

[@q7754]

Remove the feminist characters and it'll be 5/10

[@adamtuah721]

@@anti-usernamesaltaccount3623 Agreed😎👍

[@Rar830]

I guess Snapdragon and Slimeboy exist about as much as Canada then

[@ilovechangingmyprofile4888]

@nothatswrong5961 bro you are using your brain way too much for this

[@trumpeterjen]

Nearly everything this show does right is unintentional. Writers want us to like their boring protags? School bully's development blows theirs out of the water. Writers hate men? Slime boy and Parnelle are fan favorites. They want us to focus on Sage and Rosemary's fight? Snapdragon and Amaryllis' believable friendship completely overshadows it. There has to be *some* way to monetize a "talent" like that.

[@jessyonugbolu2106]

Boye that talent is one and a half, no mortal can make something that complex

[@dark7element]

Want to make a relatable "gender questioning" character? Fans like Snapdragon who is low key and has struggles with it, yet hate Caraway who is the trans self-insert who finds excuses to pontificate about it.

[@S3cr3t_Qw1rtz]

I bet it's because the main 4 are the creators ocs that he's had since middle school. In my experience those tend to be the ocs you just play with for fun, not actually develop.

[@hornedcrusader9485]

The fact that both Amaryllis and Snapdragon actually go through character arcs as opposed to the main four is what makes these two more interesting.

[@Lesbiwolf92]

That and despite having clear differences in their outlooks it never seems to lead them to the explosive petty pissing match that Sage and Rose go through

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@Lesbiwolf92 Rose and sage's relationship seems to be built on Gaslighting and guilt tripping, while snapdragon and Amaryllis has a genuine friendship, to the point that they can accept when one just doesn't want the others company at that very moment

[@KoongYe]

In an ocean of hypocrites, the villain becomes the hero, an Anti-hero.

[@enigmatic2878]

She is not a villain

[@adamtuah721]

@@enigmatic2878 She is the hero type bully

[@allforone3427]

The reason why she's likable despite the writers making an effort to make her the bully is because unlike the rest of the series, They actually put effort into making her.

[@OmniDan26]

Goku solos mha

[@allforone3427]

@@OmniDan26 Ben 10 solos Goku

[@Rar830]

True that, its ironic that all the "nice kindhearted" people who are supposed to be good guys are horrendous while the psychotic axe murderer is a genuinely good friend and a actually likeable

[@allforone3427]

@@Rar830 I know right. They honestly should've just rolled with it. Have Sage be the kind of person who seems kindhearted but is actually a Toxic individual who gaslights their friends, and have Amaryllis seem like the standard Bully character but who actually deep down cares about those close to her. Have the show be about never judging a book by its cover, which actually fits with hole Spice thing they were going for(even though they're all Herbs) since Spices may look like nothing at a first glance but if used the right way they could be pretty delicious

[@Rar830]

@@allforone3427 I feel like this could've actually worked really well if they made her convincingly nice and friendly, but she's constantly insulting others in such a way that they dont actually realize it That or it comes across as accidental savageness played off as playful banter. Followed by subtle gaslighting and passive aggressiveness. Where everybody loves her and hates Amaryllis who Snap befriends due to being perceptive enough to find Sage "off", but not concretely toxic. Additionally he could sit next to Amaryllis in class and befriend her via proximity, coming to appreciate her honesty and genuineness versus Sage who he increasingly starts to piece together her true personality bit by bit.

[@mpd1732]

Not to mention that her transformation from antagonistic bully to unlikely friend/enemy is one of the few well-paced gradual character growth in the entire series. I genuinely find it really cute how she forms friendships with other characters, while still being in character. When she finds out she might have a friend who she can gossip and sass other characters with in Thyme, she follows her around and sticks to her like glue. Her interactions with Parsley show how she can put Amaryllis in her place. And in the Halloween episodes, she genuinely asks Sage how they haven't met before, as if they were both from Witch Country they could have grown up together. Note that this is one of the few times where a character is prompted to give their backstory in a natural and meaningful way, and actually functions to enhance their character in the process. What makes Amaryllis a good character isn't just in how she acts, but in how she gets the others to *react*. Otherwise you just know that they would spend the entire series in their stock, fixed-expression, faces. 😀😃🙂😒 Guess who's who in this lineup.

[@reemraghad4267]

I'll guess, the lineup here are sage,rosemary,parsley,thyme

[@mpd1732]

@@reemraghad4267 Bingo

[@Demolitiondude]

It's not really a evolution. It's an on off switch.

[@ethanmeaker9964]

wait, "unhinged psychopath with redeeming qualities"? for the abridged series you just turned everyone into Amaryllis

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Except Sage. She is pretty normal all thing considered

[@solarflare7642]

@@L16htW4rr10r Except for the part where she's a petty bitch

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

Should name this "the best character in high guardian spice" so we can pretend it's a sequel and it does better in the algorithm

[@guardianHQ]

That would have been smart, dang

[@riv3rw4ter]

my favourite amaryllis line: 'only if you promise to stick to flattering colours' not only is it consistent with her character, its actually really sweet because its both acknowledging that she's ok with snapdragon wanting to paint their nails and also making it a joke to make them feel better.

[@DatJaneDoeArchive]

To be fair, I'd hate everyone too if I was in the HGS universe

[@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxS]

😆same

[@jessyonugbolu2106]

Same

[@five-fold]

double that

[@monkeyman2022]

And give it to the next person

[@arrontheprotogen9276]

I fifth that ngl

[@GingerTom103]

Surprisingly enough, the tea scene in episode 2 was what made me like Amaryllis. That scene and the way she was portrayed as a high school bully were so ridiculously stereotypical it was hilarious and just made her an instant favorite. And I love her friendship with Snapdragon, her going out of her way to make sure Snap is comfortable and has space to talk. Heck, at the end of episode 9 she even respected Snap's wishes to be alone with Sage. And it's not like the show focused too much on that friendship, I don't get why they couldn't put the same effort in establishing the friendship between Rose and Sage beyond just telling us that they are best friends.

[@Rar830]

Same, before then she seemed like a terrible person, but the tea scene was what convinced me thats she not. As she comes across a comically incompetent recurring villain in the same vein as team rocket, but worse since she actively tries to do something bad yet it results in something purely good. She failed successfully in other words and throughout the show she never actually does anything actually bad to my knowledge and is constantly talking as if she were. I say this because anytume she screws something up its an "oh crap" moment, not on purpose. Meanwhile stuff like her shooting lasers at everybody or being psychotic is always framed in sucha way that its clearly not meant to be taken seriously. Her friendship with Snapdragon only further convinced me that she is in fact a genuinely good person, just simply misguided. Potentially as a result of her upbringing, since in all likelihood the rest of her family acts the same way so it would only make sense that she would become like this.

[@krugerofcause9048]

Good rule of thumb for writers: If a scene won't work because of how you characterized your characters, either spend more time to develop the characters personalities to the point where the scene will make sense, or just scrap the scene and write one that actually works. Didn't think I'd ever have to explain that to people who got paid to write stuff, but I guess this is where we are in the entertainment industry dumps.

[@Alesiopdv]

7:10 I spent that entire scene shouting at the screen "dude, she´s right there! Kiss her already!" seriously, he had better chemistry with her best friend that with his supossed romantic interest

[@moh.syafrianabie8899]

Oh, so it wasn't just me who ship Snapdragon with Amaryllis

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Same here

[@phantomsanic3604]

Finally, I’ve found people who like the Snapdragon and Amaryllis ship

[@remyhavoc4463]

Don't ship them but don't mind it Waaaayyy better than the stereotypical blue haired freak

[@DircyaT.Rubino]

A shame the axe-wielding psychopath was relegated to the sidelines. She had more charm and depth than the two leads combined.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

I just realized today how to make Sage's "Old Magic, New Magic" issue make sense. Throw out the conservative/liberal thing they had going on, and focus on a very simple dichotomy: technology and self-reliance. Let's say that the reason her mother wanted her to focus on the old style was that it focused on knowing and understanding every part of the process, from the nature of substances, items, and creatures involved to every step of every ritual. By contrast, the terraspere technology allows everyone to do everything faster, since it (for lack of a better words) automates the process with the alignment of substances and steps of the rituals artificially done by or within the sphere itself. It's handy, but the cost is that fewer people today are learning how all of this works, and as Sage and/or her mother could point out, this makes them dependent on whoever is making and maintaining these things. It seems fine for now, but if we do what GHQ here has done with making the bad guys said producers... It also gives them a perfect motivation for either causing or at least allowing the rot: they can use that as an incentive to make even those who try to cling to the old ways adapt their technology in order to fight it while they hold a monopoly, giving them ever more money, power, and influence in a long-running plan to control the world not through conquest, but by control of the very materials that make everything function.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

This. A thousand times, this. I had a similar idea to rewriting and balancing Old and New magic, but your idea is much more well thought out. For one, it's refreshing to see someone whose idea for balancing Old/New magic isn't just "MaKe OlD mAgIc StRoNgEr!1!". For another, this would provide a downside to New Magic besides the connection to the Rot. Because New Magic is so easy to use, it's an easy draw for... unwieldy sorts. Maybe those easily drawn by promise of power, or those out for revenge, or some third vice to indulge. While the path of Old Magic, due to requiring dedication and discipline to master, weeds out any such sorts and mostly leaves those who would use its power responsibly. But also, this would actually provide an incentive to combine Old and New magic, in a sense: the power and speed of New Magic, in the hands of the creativity, knowledge, skill, and discipline of an Old Magic user... quite the powerful combination.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Thanks. Also, your mention of incentives gave me another idea, one that could use this aspect to create a source of conflict between Sage and the others, as well as create an opportunity for rather interesting growth on Rosemary's part. Now some have questioned why you would even have melee warriors or archers in a world where magic can do everything. If we go with the technology route, then it starts to make sense: up to this point, the rituals involved in old magic took time, time enough to draw an arrow or close the distance for a sword, axe, or hammer. Now that it's gotten much faster through automation, this is having an effect similar to the gun had on sword fighting. How would Rose, Thyme, and Parsley be forced to grow or change their style and thinking if they got to the academy after training in a very specific style for most of their lives...only to find their simply outdated? How might that create a source of envy towards the magic users, especially Sage once she gets a terrasphere of her own, and it drives home even further how their styles can't keep up anymore? If I were writing it, I'd have each adapt in their own pace and their own way. Parsley could try using armor and adapting runes to guard against certain attacks. Thyme could hone her skills at stealth and gradually learn new specialties to augment her arrows (ex. explosives, freezing, tranquilizer darts etc.). As for Rosemary, she could try at first to just plow forward and fight her enemies as if it was still her mother's day, only to get put on her rear a couple of times and forced to admit she needs to change. Now how she would adapt is still a matter for speculation, but at least we now have an arc that gives her some progression, character development, and something I can imagine many would sympathize with beyond her mother having Protagonist's Parent Syndrome.

[@DwarfDaddy]

Hell it doesn’t even make sense since the show says Old Magic actually is better because it doesn’t create The Rot. Your rewrite makes it seem like such a no brainer it’s actually insulting that those writers got paid period

[@a.w.4708]

Great idea! I had an alternative one, but maybe possible to connect: that old magic used on small scale is just a bit draining, but on a larger scale (let's say... Big, loud city scale) it eventually requires human sacrifices to meet the demand - life energy of the casters themselves just isn't enough. That for long, gruesome years of growing magical demand Triumvirate secretly sacrificed prisoners and homeless people, eventually even orphans, so the city would thrive. That they were desperate to find an alternative, whatever it would be, and when the terraspere was invented, they didn't care it drains the planet instead - it is the lesser evil, isn't it? They decided to replace all of city magic with terraspheres asap. To do this they had to convince people to rapid change. But not wanting to admit their former crimes they instead created an entire smear campaign for old magic, shaming people for using this lame, obsolete technique, simultaneously heavily marketing terraspheres as the must have. I think it would add the dimension to Triumvirate making them not just the evil greedy Corporation, and also kinda explain how the hell Rosemary's mother joined them.

[@a.w.4708]

@@morgant.dulaman8733 great idea, it also gives better reason for conflict between Rosemary and Sage than difference in fair activity preferences. I think the kind of magic Rosemary could use would be connected to the sword in some way. Maybe the broken jewel would be replaced by magical one? This would make the breaking more important for story progress.

[@wilamblack8372]

Said it once, i'll say it again! Give Axe girl, Slime boy, Parnell, and Snapdragon a spinoff show, along with Neppy Cat! Edit: heck throw in blonde sensible girl too.

[@a.w.4708]

Yes, Nappy Cat should be appreciated!

[@zanyzantx]

Amaryllis makes… me… feel… *ALIVE*

[@TheRatKingOwO]

These rants continue to go into my writing reference playlist

[@MasterOfTruck]

Amaryllis is the best character for the specific reason that she was written to be the exact opposite. she is clearly meant to be the unlikeable character who's constantly present to give us moral contrast to our "heroes" with her rude attitude. however in reality it just makes all of her shenanigans and ensuring royal hijinks more enjoyable the more we come to detest everyone else. but thats completely attributed to the fact that she wasnt stuck up the ass with all the socio-political tropes which plague pretty much every other character for the sole reason shes supposed to be a minor antagonist. i wouldnt say its an oversight but it unironically makes Amaryllis the only damn consistently written character in the entire show because they left her alone. not to mention that despite being a psychopathic bully, shes the only character who exhibits any natural flaws as we learn her bad nature is a direct correlation to her own insecurities. like yeah, shes not a great person by how she treats most around her, but she shows to be the most relatable because she has the most realistic sense of humanity and isnt just some 1-dimensional self projection.

[@kap1618]

Basically the character who is supposed to be nice is a low key jerk and the character who is jerk has the capacity to be nice but only on her terms and to the people she calls friends.

[@Lesbiwolf92]

To me, Sage is the person who is nice but not because she is a good person but because she wants people to know she is a nice person if that makes sense? Amaryllis on the other hand gives the vibes that she came from a background where being kind or kind to the wrong person could get you into trouble, considering her mum apparently beats the shit out of people and is a violent drunk.

[@mothramaster1837]

I think a major factor with Amaryllis' likeability is the fact that her character flaws are *intentional*, which makes her more believable and consistent, and this allows her to develop as a character. Meanwhile the main 4 just sorta switch personalities to suit what the show wants at the drop of a hat, which is a huge factor in why they feel so lousy and sometimes out of character.

[@thealexellucas]

This also ties into how people will tend to enjoy villains despite how evil they may act. Protagonists tend to have their edges softened by the writers to make them as likable as possible whereas antagonists and villain characters don’t have this limitation and have their flaws in full display which results in them being more relatable or at the very least more fun to watch.

[@enigmatic2878]

She's not a villain, but i see what you mean

[@vitorsanches7290]

if you've managed to make a character that's supposed to be bad and hated by fans be more likable and relatable than the unintentionally protagonist, that means you've failed in every way, like Loki in every Thor movie he appears in.

[@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxS]

That's pretty much what happened with Vegeta in DBZ. But eventually Toriyama just gave up and let him be another hero lol

[@enigmatic2878]

Well a lot of villains like Loki aren't meant to be very hated though. Like yeah, they're the villains and they popped an eye off of someone but he's designed to be very charismatic and fun since he's a trickster

[@ladynoname3621]

Chloe in Miraculous

[@JuniorGustabo]

​@@ladynoname3621Chloe deserves to be part of a better show.

[@StrawberryCocoaPowder]

Not to mention that she has like the best lines "I don't trust it/her!" (Any line dunking on Sage is the best)

[@GretgorPooper]

My man's sanity is so compromised from watching this show he's now taken to stating the obvious in his titles. Somebody help him!

[@crayonbox1723]

Amaryllis doesn't like poor people. Ofc she's the best character 🥰

[@goufr3540]

When it comes to best characters in HGS, you have Amaryllis who tops them and then Neppy Cat and Slime Boy. You could actually develop an interesting story with those 3 characters alone in the High Guardian Academy. On a side note, was there ever a definitive answer to WTF a Guardian is?

[@estinsidebottom]

I Don't Think So- But It MIGHT Be A Food.

[@enigmatic2878]

Santa Clause, Toothfairy, Easter Bunny, Sandman, Jac- oh is it different?

[@ntfoperative9432]

Nope. We still have no fucking clue what a guardian actually is. They could be Jedi type people, keepers of the peace. They could be Warriors who's purpose is to hold back the darkness. For all we know they could just be the world's greatest bakers, that like to collect the ingredients themselves

[@estinsidebottom]

@@ntfoperative9432 I Honestly Think The Show With The Guardians Literally Just Being Bakers Would Be MUCH Better Than What We Actually Got! It's Much More Interesting As A Concept (Magical Bakery

[@schizophrenic_rambler]

@@estinsidebottom if that happened, HGS would be a different show altogether. I think they should have sicked to the sujetive way instead, everyone has to have a goal and vows when entering, and guardians are those stay true to those goals and vows, if they don't, they are expelled.

[@voidanims]

Amaryllis is actually the balance of this worlds universe, a good to balance the bad

[@veritasgaming2861]

One of the notable things that occurred to me in your comparison of the Parsley incident versus the Snapdragon one is the fact that, on some level, the show's bizarre narrative inconsistency may not be just incompetence, but a combination of incompetence as well as a failure to actually understand the ideological beliefs they suppose themselves to advocate for. For context (though this is obvious), this can be derived from how oppositely the narrative treats the punishment of what in reality are characters that serve the same function (Cal and Aster). In the case of Parsley, the violent punishment of Aster is deemed moral and praiseworthy ostensibly because Aster deserves it. However, as noted, this reasoning narratively vanishes the moment Snapdragon does the same thing. Now obviously this is curious, not just because of inconsistency however, but because of the very bizarre double standard it establishes. On one hand, Carroway's spiel afterward about the immorality and harm of Snapdragon's actions is evidently predicated on being a narrative PSA about toxic masculinity--something that would be perfectly fine and relevant if the world of HGS operated according to its own moral standards at all times, which it of course doesn't. In the case of Parsley, there is no punishment, not even a heavy-handed attempt at a spiel along the lines of "I dunno, maybe there is a better solution, you should have told us first, or maybe, hah, we can try to do our jobs better." Instead, Parsley and the others get narratively high-fived for Girlbossing the worthless characters whose sole reason for existing in the story is to have their teeth kicked in, being the moral effigies they are. So, tdlr, in HGS it is perfectly moral and stylish to kick the oppressor in the guts if you're of the female sex, while suddenly it's toxically masculine if you're male. This is getting a little greedy, but this is made especially weirder given the fact that Snapdragon actually experiences dysphoria and, to my knowledge, is meant to settle on identifying as female by the end of the season. Combined with the fact that Snapdragon attacks Cal exactly because he was being made fun of on the basis of femininity, I'd say there are more than a few ways you could frame HGS as having an anti-trans narrative... of which the irony (Raye Rodriguez being trans) is both unbelievable and exactly the problem. All in all, I'm not sure whether or not HGS is simply more incompetent in a general sense or if this incompetence just happens to be grotesquely intertwined with how garbage its execution of its imaginary progressivism really is. Partially it felt like there was an honest attempt here or there to fit a coherent narrative, however, for the most part the show seems unable to decide whether or not it cares more about dunking on representations of people its creators hate or actually trying to critique how we morally deal with people of that nature on a productive basis.

[@macgyversmacbook1861]

I remember coming across a clip of Amaryllis and Snap from the Halloween episode and not gonna lie, if the show focused only on their friendship I’d actually watch it because they’re totally adorable

[@snepping1885]

THIS GUY IS GETTING THE STOCKHOLM SYNDROME!!!! ALSO LATINO CAT BOYYYYY!!!!!!

[@draketheduelist]

While I didn't really care for Amyrillis herself, she was the subject of the only joke in HGS that I actually laughed at (roughly quoted because I'm not watching that crap again just to make a point): Sage: "Well what if Amyrillis went on and on and on about how dreamy Aster is all the time?" Snapdragon: "I'd be happy for her! She _usually_ talks about murder." I find that what makes a lot of jokes funny has to do with when the punchline lands. The later the landing, the funnier the joke because you have less time to process the information, consider it rationally, and maybe even write a funnier joke in your head. (This is the essence of what makes farts funny. Despite crass witlessness, they're so fast that they can catch even the most cynical viewer off guard.) Up until the last part of the exchange, the conversation sounds fairly pedestrian, as if real people were talking about another real person. For the joke to end in "murder" jars the viewer from a typical breeze-shooting session to "oh yeah, we're talking about a complete psycho here". And because we've gotten to know Amyrillis, more so than most other characters in fact, we can imagine that this is true to at least some degree. This wouldn't work for, say, Thyme. The fact that Snap just says that so nonchalantly suggests that he doesn't even regard it as weird, let alone contemptible. It's just something he's come to accept. Because of that, your mind fills in a million different interactions between the two that would leave Snapdragon so jaded about Amyrillis' violent streak. That's what makes it funny. It's one of the only times where HGS allows itself to be a silly cartoon, and just about the only one of those to not be completely tonally compromised. ...That said, given Snap's ultimate characterization as disliking aggressive and macho qualities... why _is_ he friends with Amyrillis? Isn't the whole point of the axe that it symbolized machismo and showed how Snap regarded becoming just like his dad as an unpleasant inevitability? Why be friends with someone who met receiving the axe with "I... FEEL... ALIIIIIVE"? Or does Snap just hate aggression when _men_ do it? Speaking of men, what does Snap think of Carroway? Real-life LGBT subgroups are notoriously prickly and gatekeep-y against each other, as you'd expect when questions about who counts as what are left purposefully ambiguous. Would Snap think _less_ of Carroway knowing that Carroway explicitly rejected the kind of beauty Snap wants? Or would Snap think of Carroway as a man, and thus a brute like Snap's dad? Or maybe the writers were just stupid, stupid motherfu-

[@Duothimir]

I would assume it's because Amaryllis is so gentle with Snapdragon. He sees a side of her that nobody else gets to, so he knows that there's more to her than just violence and aggression. She has a soft side that he can open up to.

[@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxS]

Dude really wrote an essay proving why farts are funny.

[@yoseisovereign6728]

We know Snapdragon doesn’t like trying to be a tough guy; that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d begrudge someone else for swinging an axe.

[@draketheduelist]

@@yoseisovereign6728 In my experience, people in Snapdragon's situation not only don't want to be reminded of the abusive home they left (even if the most abusive thing Snap's dad did was send him to HG Academy to die...), but they're hypersensitive to anything that would remind them of that abuse. Which, in Snap's case, should include Amyrillis. Weirdly enough, Thyme actually demonstrated this _properly_ when she bumped into that tree cosplayer and had a PTSD episode over it.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

@@draketheduelist Undermined by Thyme having more of a reaction to that one tree cosplayer than to seeing actual Rot in effect, but a fair point nonetheless. And I could kinda see Snapdragon just not liking the aggression and toughness in men. One of the things that attracted Snappy to Sage was her lecturing/yelling at Amaryllis; and when I first saw Snappy's talk with Caraway I interpreted it as Snappy partly being jealous of how women can be both beautiful and strong, tough or gentle as needed... while men can only be big and macho or else be looked down upon. Maybe (and I know I'm injecting my own nonsense in at this point) he's okay with Amaryllis getting the axe as it both symbolizes him distancing from his family's expectations and makes him a little happy knowing that the axe is going to someone who's actually comfortable with it. But back to the joke, another part of it that works well is -- whether intended or not -- good use of expectation subversion, as sick as some of us probably are of hearing that. Sage asks a loaded question to Snappy, about how he would feel if Amaryllis got a crush/boyfriend and that's all she talked about. Expectation: he ponders the question, really thinking about how he would take it, maybe even begins to understand how Sage is feeling and sympathize. That or go into denial. Subversion: his answer is quick, confident, and a little odd. He's not taking any of Sage's attitude.

[@NobodyImportant69420]

Gosh, talking about High Guardian Spice on a channel about High Guardian Spice is the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Hope it pays off for you. In all seriousness, this show is the kind of horrible that is fascinating to analyze. Thank you for doing this. Media analysis and criticism is a legitimate field of study, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

[@Muna-Jlore0997]

The reason fans love amaryllis because of her attitude and leadership. In the final episode where the students and unconscious teachers were trapped in a burning basement and her first reaction is find a way out by working together. Rosemary doesn’t do that and she’s supposedly a leader and MC, however, the first instinct she got from that is play truth or dare while trapped in a cave. Way a go, guys. 👍😒👍

[@dougneon9550]

Amaryllis is a great character because of the Metalocalypse effect. She's a terrible but fun character and when she does something good (her time with snap dragon) it feels all the more impactful and genuine.

[@Cp-71]

It's the elements of the show like her that make me believe it deserved better. Anyone wants to make a fan remake just to don't let Amaryllis go to waste?

[@KolkoCat]

I kind of want a season two because I love watching this cringe so much and I can’t stop watching this flaming train to hell.

[@zoainaiip]

Is like a car crash that you can’t help but look at it

[@enviousgaming3250]

hell yeah!!!! im happy i finally found a content creator who not only liked life is stranger but liked chloe. i really liked her as a character. i get why a lot of people hate her but that's honestly what makes her a good character. she is flawed and at times can be an absolute piece of shit but deep down when it matters she cares and wouldn't hurt a fly

[@devildelirious8662]

If you keep this up I'll have to watch it

[@guardianHQ]

If you do please watch it with friends

[@shadoeboi212]

and/or VERY Inebriated

[@jennybrown7834]

If you watch it make a movie viewing snack and beverage that are somewhat high maintenance to make at home and you need focus to eat so that way you can have plenty of excuses to leave the room like nachos and hot chocolate

[@osets2117]

The one thing I want to know is how did Snapdragon and amaryllis become friends to begin with? We'll of course never get the answer but

[@sonicroze]

Amazing that the showrunners were trying to impress how out of the box they were and how amazing things were. Rich snob who hates poor people? Never seen that one before lol... and yet she's the most consistent character.

[@starry-p]

No, I totally agree / she’s literally the funnest one I like snap dragon too but I don’t like their voice actor at all. And honestly I just wish they would let characters be feminine without them being trans. Obviously Snap dragon was meant to be trans from the beginning and that’s not the problem I have with the character. I just really wish they wrote that character better and not so god awful. Oh your a feminine male? You MUST BE TRANS! It felt forced and I just think that it’s way more complicated than that and the writing for that character was not carefully thought out at all!

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Well, when you have a school full of sociopaths, is it any surprise we'd be more likely to gravitate toward the HONEST sociopath?

[@LillyWhiteFairy]

She also has the best design and voice. The voice cracks me up a lot. Also her pirate costume was adorable.

[@a.w.4708]

Amarylis is literally what Chloe Burgeois could be if Miraculous author wasn't so petty and biased. I can't believe I say this, but yes: Miraculous could learn from High Guardian Spice. Also I am sad for Parsley being used like this, she had so much potential but she became just a plot device.

[@JuniorGustabo]

Chloe is wasted potential like everything else in that show.

[@b-ryemendez8335]

Because Amaryllis has a personality and she’s knows what she is and doesn’t go around telling people she’s a “good person”. She will show you her softer side once you get to know her.

[@digitxlrin]

The title literally made my day since I love Ryl so much. Thank you for making the video lol.

[@rafaelbrites3607]

This situation remembers me about yu gi oh zexal, when the main lead of the show kotori, she is a winny baby like sage, and Anna, Who was a tomboy gril like ameryllis had more caracther development then the main gril ( and she was suppossed to be a filler caracther).

[@radicalpollution4270]

I’m gonna be honest, most side characters are better than the protag in most shows. In HGS case, Amaryllis is the only female character that acts like a shining bulb that puts all the other characters to shame… which most of them deserves.

[@magicalbuster2383]

I woke up from my nap because of a notification of this.

[@jackprutsman821]

FINALLY! The video we’ve all been waiting for!

[@chesnutkc]

I've never actually watched this show nor do I plan to, but I really enjoy your videos because then I can learn what NOT to do when making a story.

[@jasmineflower2888]

The fact that Amaryllis is the Norman Price of High Guardian Spice is sort of making her more likeable than Horrid Henry.

[@gilbertotabares8196]

I would argue that Zinnia is best girl. She was smart enough to smell High Guardian Academy's Bullshit and get the F&%K outta dodge. Tho i am impressed that Amaryllis was supposed to be a bully yet she turned out more likeable than the main foursome. But that's not saying much.

[@lalalallalallalalalla]

She gives me peridot vibes, witch is also the best part of fucking steven universe

[@liarliarplants4hire]

I met much more active and sadistic bullies. Middle school.

[@1BlueRozez1]

The beginning of this video made me think of something You should do a video on what peoples favorite HGS character says about them 😂

[@sophieauguste1786]

Never saw anyone bring this up, but earlier seasons of Winx Club featured a secondary "mean girl" character named Amaryl, who was technically on the good side in the larger conflict, but still sociopathic enough to attempt throwing a fireball (of the type implied to be a lethal weapon) at a fellow student for a petty reason. So, apparently, the most well-received HGS character may not necessarily be an entirely original invention...

[@petercooper456]

She’s a treasure hell I’d consider simping for her

[@snappythesnapster1856]

🤨

[@archinspide2652]

🤨

[@lumityviktuuristanartist4100]

She's 14

[@petercooper456]

@@lumityviktuuristanartist4100 I learned that only after typing the comment.

[@richardomilos8686]

How do you manage to squeeze more content out of this show than the producers?

[@ZalanAndMiky]

•I need a Spin-Off.

[@juanlo2628]

Para ser una bully rica es más viva y mejor amiga que las protagonistas

[@arthurrif7297]

Hey Dave, when are you going to do a video together with Rayes Rodriguez?

[@thefunnychiptuneman]

dont forget about parsley too

[@laceymeeks6540]

Amaryllis is best girl 🖤 also your vids are amazing and congrats on 10k!

[@explosivegrape]

If I had a top 10 HGS list from best too worst it would be: 1) Amaryllis 2) Snap dragon 3) Latino cat girl 4) That one random students that almost killed Caraway 5) Garfield 6) Slime boy 7)Mandrake 8) everyone else 9) Caraway 10) Sage

[@marieobst8850]

The part about the writers intention for us to like Sage hit hard because for some reason it worked on me, I liked Sage despite her being a super generic and flawed character. It's just that I'm a shy introvert girl just like her (even though I wouldn't start a fight with my best friend for such a stupid reason) I guess it says a lot about this show cause I'm probably the biggest Sage fan here and even I can't defend her with much other than "I couldn't hate her because I feel empathetic towards her" I'm just too emotional and the shot at 2:24 alone makes it impossible for me to hate her

[@emperorofscelnar8443]

Just because someone says something you don’t like doesn’t give you the right to assault people, which is one of the reasons why I don’t like the main characters.

[@wolfherojohnson2766]

5:06 I realized you were talking about Parsley

[@themphantom9138]

Well Duh! (Also, Axe Murder Girl is a suitable title)

[@leritykay8911]

You know, if anything it would make more sense for Amaryllis to harm Aster. "What? I dislike sexists more than the rest of you plebians *Squinting at Sage hard, after hearing what Snapdragon told her*" And as usual, she prolly would recieve some punusbment

[@emperorofscelnar8443]

Amaryllis and SnapDragon should be the main characters.

[@crabfromhell]

Wow, would not have thought I'd see that day

[@ChaosJesterYT]

Count on the person that hates poor people to not have poor characterization

[@DeerRunner]

I would say 90 percent of most shows and movies problems comes from not caring it makes no sense. This is a good case study showing that the only one that was written right despite your suppose to dislike her is the best character.

[@MeDoes_Art]

not really about the video but id like to point out an animation error for your series, i now notice theres a big hole in the statues in minute 8:09, one of the statues' arms just got randomly cut off you can even see olive pass through the area

[@TitanXecutor]

Amaryllis, Snapdragon, and Slime Boy: The trio of good characters in this whole show

[@soup9587]

Amaryllis should have been the main hero. Hands down!

[@nef36]

It's not because her flaws are intentional, it's because her intended flaws are allowed to be actual flaws and and not quirky character gags, while the show shows a side of her that shows she's not completely rotten on the inside.

[@danieldonnert3747]

Don't forget that hand at 8:09. Layer issues. IF you get to this episode with animation errors that is.

[@sweethysteria8737]

Is it wrong that my favorite character is still Parsley? Amaryllis is still pretty darn good though lol :3 Like, she’s a guilty pleasure character for me Not well written but that adorable motherly short girl with the patience of saint and a hammer has my heart and she won’t give it back even after she crushed that losers foot

[@tultsi93]

Holy shit! I just realized Amaryllis is Roger and Beebe fused together!

[@lobaoguara2332]

can you turn on the subtitles?

[@mackenzie9065]

An idea: instead of Parsley being the one to smash Aster’s foot in, we could have had Mandrake disguised as Parsley do so The girls would think that something’s off and eventually at the end they’ll realise that Parsley was actually Mandrake

[@AnonJuggerbot]

Amaryllis is the best character not because she is a well-written character, but because its fun watching her dumpster the other shitty, stupid characters constantly.

[@veggsbacon1891]

Amaryllis and Olive side show when?

[@_amya__]

Don't forget slime boy

[@substhesubs4770]

Slime boy still stomps

[@z3ro.Qw1rtz]

I love amaryllis so much 😭

[@kazumas_headband]

First and yes Amaryllis is best girl

[@Colincamera363]

Amaryllis reminds me a lot of Louise Belcher from Bob's burgers, that's probably why I love her so much

[@area52ron]

I think Parsley only broke Asters foot because it would give Parnelle the win

[@user-xk6bw1gu8u]

Its really weird that that show did something so right

[@trinitok747]

Based

[@rosemary2363]

is carecterisation a food