I love when Jeff points out how bad the Professor nickname is for Rocchio. Couldn’t agree more! I’m with you guys on wanting to try Arias. It’s certainly a risk but I think it’s the best bet. And could be real fun if it works out.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
Arias was better last year even than Rocchio has been this year
@zivohel5 ай бұрын
Great show guys like always. I did say at the trade that I really loved the Cobb pickup even with the medicals since his experience and intangibles are priceless for this group
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
thank you man
@siegewithme5 ай бұрын
Our rotation upgrade is like a glass of ice water after hard work. I love how these two guys throw a lot of quality strikes, Bibee could learn a thing or two from these vets! Great show Jeff and Justin the newest vibes guys 😂❤
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
chase rate matters and he doesnt have the highest exit velocity on the team right now
@RyanDudziak5 ай бұрын
That walk on Suzuki should have been a strikeout looking. Ball 1 was clearly a strike. So Cobb gets the QS in my head.
@rward21095 ай бұрын
One of the 2 Strike pitches could've been called a strike easily. I wanna see if Vogt is not so quick with the hook when Boyd, Cobb, and even Williams get back to full load ready. Gotta get a few 7 inning starts here and there to keep the Pen as fresh as possible Imo.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
yeah it was a tight call there
@GuardianofClevelandHeights5 ай бұрын
If the organization has decided to make a change at SS, I'd much rather go with bringing Arias back up than signing Rosario again. I will say Noel had the highest exit velo hit of the evening. Yes, it resulted in an out, but any Guardians fan with sense knows this is what we are gonna get from Noel going forward. High risk, high reward, high variance.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
its weird how much people just hate arias and refuse to see what he can do
@charlesdarwin1805 ай бұрын
Brewer fan here. Congratulations on beating the Cubs in a sweep. Well, looks like it'll be up the Brewers to make some cracks in your new rotation.
@siegewithme5 ай бұрын
You won’t get a crack at our new rotation… Williams Bibee and Lively are the guys who’ve been holding it down.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
rotation was fine offense was the issue
@mikedr15495 ай бұрын
When I look at this lineup it just boggles my mind that they have the best record in baseball. How is that even possible.
@rward21095 ай бұрын
Bullpen, Bibee, Lively, Jose, And some timely hitting earlier in the year and of late. Did I mention the bullpen?
@mikedr15495 ай бұрын
@@rward2109 Oh I think it's 100% the bullpen. But it's crazy to me that they make that much of a difference.
@siegewithme5 ай бұрын
The clubhouse… they all play for each other and they have a lot of guys who are all about making everyone around them better. Jeff and Justin mention that the cubs are a team who plays worse than the sum of its parts. Well the guards play better than the sum of their parts. That’s good coaching/teaching and good chemistry. Oh and the pitching lab sure helps!!
@Justin-pq3rq5 ай бұрын
Well Kwan Batting .325. And Jose and Naylor having 57 Homeruns and 185 RBI between them is a good start.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
bullpen is a large large part
@RobertGrose-jn3nw5 ай бұрын
I wonder why Vogt brought in Sandlin to face Bellinger instead of Herrin
@christoph15965 ай бұрын
Sandlin always comes in with 2 outs and RISP …
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
not sure either
@jaked67465 ай бұрын
Man we needed this 5 game stretch & a bit of production from everyone not just our all-stars.. had the Rocchio/SS conversation with my Dad last night in the 5th & 9th inning (he’s a big Rocchio guy). Cannot have these defensive let downs he’s allowing if you’re not gunna hit.. mess ups in a series closer vs the Cubs that almost allows a 6-3 Victory instead of a 6-1 victory is whatever. Those kinds of errors in the postseason get you eliminated. That being said I don’t want to move Giminez
@jaked67465 ай бұрын
@@stanleyhaynes6171 where did I say I can’t stand Rocchio? I like the kid and think he has a good profile, when I mention the errors and the worries about those types of things I’m talking in relation of THIS YEAR & THIS 2024 TEAM. Is that our best option RIGHT NOW for a postseason run? I’m not sure it is. But I don’t hate Rocchio and I don’t think we should ship him out
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
right now I would settle for the all stars rebounding which just hasnt been a thing
@dennisquigney38095 ай бұрын
Rocchio has the 6th highest defensive WAR of all players in the MLB. He is a truly gifted fielder. That's why he is still here.
@dennisquigney38095 ай бұрын
Arias has no range. He is Aloof in the field. He hits well one week and then goes on a 4 week swoon. He is not the answer.
@abyz14675 ай бұрын
@@dennisquigney3809 humbly disagree. Arias has pretty good range and he has the best arm on the entire team.
@dennisquigney38095 ай бұрын
@jg7102 he has a 1.8 defensive war and is 6th in the league per baseball reference. Check it out. His offense has been very underwhelming, but his value on defense is much higher than all the alternatives. And remember the team is built to play defense, steal bases, be athletic and outpitch your opponent. He helps with these things. And he's 23 and a former top 100 prospect.
@dennisquigney38095 ай бұрын
@abyz1467 They tried to give Arias the job last year for 2 months and he struck out 3 out of every 4 plate appearances.
@abyz14675 ай бұрын
@@dennisquigney3809 jg doesn’t like facts
@Justin-pq3rq5 ай бұрын
Just want to point out that Jose Ramirez and Josh Naylor having 57 Homeruns and 185 RBIs between them is awesome. And we still have 38 games to go. It’s completely plausible that they could both have 35 HR and 115 RBI between them. Locked on Guardians when is the last time we had 2 players have that much production. Was it 2017??
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
feels like it had to be right thinking was likely JRAM and Lindor maybe 2018
@Justin-pq3rq5 ай бұрын
@@LockedonGuardians they are definitely the heart and soul of this team. And a deadly combination. I saw a stat last nite. The only duo in MLB that has more homers and RBI. Is Judge and Soto. That’s pretty dam good company. And a ton of great duos they are ahead of.
@charlesdarwin1805 ай бұрын
So, I guess with the day off for Cleveland, no more locked on shows until after the Brewer series.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
We are 5 days a week during the season
@RyanDudziak5 ай бұрын
Potential discussion topic: Do you guys think Kwan has gotten a bit to interested in homers? I was happy with his increase in power, but it feels like he tries to lift everything now and is popping up like crazy. Seems like he’s forgotten his role a bit.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
hes been below average since the break badly so
@keneneverett58795 ай бұрын
Last week: we may never win again This week: we may never lose again 😂
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
this weekend we might never win again
@nathanpage48875 ай бұрын
Cobb struck out Busch and should have been out of the inning. Umps are garbage!
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
yeah he has been squeezed
@mickgogle21255 ай бұрын
rocchio got go!! to Columbus now !!!!
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
doesnt seem like its going to happen for whatever reason
@dougk21965 ай бұрын
Magic number is 37 when you factor in the tiebreaker
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
good point
@ssamaco5 ай бұрын
Maybe, just maybe Arias would be a guy who settles in and clicks if he's an everyday player, that's the only thing I can think might save us. But I honestly feel like I want to be done w him, I'd rather bring back Rosario, seems like our best option doesn't it? Maybe i"m wrong.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
I think there is a chance development is not a straight line
@AndrewPolander5 ай бұрын
Boyd right now has the definite edge over Cobb as our #3 or #4; depending how you feel about Lively, because he is a lefty and looks better!
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
depends on the team to me if a team is more lefty then Boyd more righty then Cobb
@jameskeene44125 ай бұрын
I think we know Arias isn’t the answer either. I’m fine with trying Brito but I am against trying Arias for the 4th time and watching him flail about
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
he was good last year
@kurtsmith71045 ай бұрын
Cobb was ok we can win with him he is off my shit list for a start.....
@rward21095 ай бұрын
Ok? Helluva great game from your #4 or 5 starter.
@natew16395 ай бұрын
Helluva great game, couldn’t agree more. Unclear to me why people are so down on Cobb. Seems like a perfect fit to me.
@rward21095 ай бұрын
@@natew1639 Perfect fit! Especially considering u didn't give up any Major prospects for him. There's always a chance a prospect can become a star but those are far and few between.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
hes been solid
@stevenhill76145 ай бұрын
Would love to see Brito
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
just hard to play him due to defense
@stevenhill76145 ай бұрын
It's not to late to move him !
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
we will see
@glenlongwell22165 ай бұрын
I think you see arias next month and then likely he gets moved on from unless he goes on a torrid pace. I think the org is moving on from him even if Rocchio is... frustrating a lot of the time
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
you might be right
@stanleyhaynes61715 ай бұрын
@Locked On Guardians The unnecessary criticism towards Rocchio is utterly embarrassing and here's why. He is in his first REAL season of major league baseball. For context purposes, I'm going to compare him with Cleveland's all-time favorite Short Stop Omar Vizquel. Omar Vizquel's rookie season, he had 1 Home Run and 20 RBI's with a .220 batting avg in 143 Games. Right now, Rocchio has 5 Home Runs, 26 RBI's and a .205 Batting avg in 108 games witch is 35 fewer games. As for actual fielding ability, Rocchio has 9 Errors in 108 starts thus far with a .975 Fielding percentage. Omar Vizquel's rookie season he had 18 Errors with a .971 Fielding percentage in 143 starts. Rocchio has half as many Errors. Not only that, but let's go on to look at the fact that it wasn't until Vizquel's 4th season, yes 4th where he had above a .250 batting avg. A player who fell only 133 Hits shy of 3,000 for his career. And as for his Gold Glove seasons, he had 15 Errors his first Gold Glove Season, 20 Errors his 4th, 10 his 5th, and 15 his 7th. The unnecessary criticism that Rocchio has received not just from you, but from the majority of Cleveland is astonishing. A great short stop provides good to great defense and the better they are defensively. The less necessary it is for them to excel on offense- Ozzie Smith exhibit A and Omar Vizquel exhibit B.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
hes not those guys and a lot of metrics have him closer to average than great, errors have little value for judgement and this is just silly osrry
@kaeleenwescoat-oneill37555 ай бұрын
Rocchio is Smalls from The Sandlot but not as endearing. Just lost, overwhelmed, and trying extra hard to be likable.
@kaeleenwescoat-oneill37555 ай бұрын
Don’t get me wrong.. I’m rooting for him to be better. I want things to click for Bryan. He’s just got those annoying little brother vibes.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
thats an interesting one I had not thought of
@RobertGrose-jn3nw5 ай бұрын
Again zero production out of the 7,8 and 9 hitters
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
it only got worse
@stevenhill76145 ай бұрын
I am so over the Rocchio thing. Hopefully Columbus is in his future.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
I agree
@davidwindell5 ай бұрын
It’s too late in the year. This team is set. Just leave it alone. Rocchio is really the only weak spot in the lineup and he is even coming around. I don’t want to hear about Gabby. He’s had his turn. This is Rocchio’s chance, and he’s actually got fantastic defensive metrics. You switch those two and Rocchio and Gabby would just switch positions with gabby struggling and Rocchio tearing up AAA. Idc about errors. Every team’s leader in errors is their SS, and his offense is getting better slowly. You can’t give a guy 300 PAs and give up. That’s why we haven’t settled on a guy yet- it takes time. I also don’t want to hear about Brito. He’s putting up a mediocre offensive season in an absolute bandbox.
@abyz14675 ай бұрын
Brayan?
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
gabby looked better a year ago then ROcchio has this year
@ryanad55665 ай бұрын
I think Jeff put it best: I don’t know if Arias will be the answer, but at least for right now Rocchio sure as hell isn’t. Arias went thru the trouble to make an adjustment in the minors and is now raking. Give him the shot and let Rocchio think about some things for awhile.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
Arias a year ago looked better than Rocchio ever has
@anthonyg8135 ай бұрын
Rocchio got to go! Let Arias play SS. It's rather have Rosario back than play Rocchio!
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
getting to that for me
@life51615 ай бұрын
Rocchio stinks!! On my MLB The Show franchise him and straw the first ones to go.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
fair enough
@justintaylor66045 ай бұрын
Is Lane Thomas ok? He’s been so bad since the trade. Does he have a late season surge in him? I’ve seen enough of Rocchio this year, and I’d like to see Arias get those AB’s now. There needs to be a change. I’d like to also see them make a change with Schneeman and/or Freeman because they just aren’t getting it done right now either.
@TheKLeifheit135 ай бұрын
Ideally: Fry to IL, bring up Manzardo Schneemann to AAA for Martinez Rocchio to Narnia for Arias
@justintaylor66045 ай бұрын
@@TheKLeifheit13 I agree, they need to optimize this offense in time for the playoffs.
@GuardianofClevelandHeights5 ай бұрын
@@justintaylor6604 until the poor defense costs a run or two in the playoffs and then people will be excoriating the front office for giving up defense when playoff runs are so precious.
@AndrewPolander5 ай бұрын
NOT at all a fan of L.Thomas concerning his pre-set my back stance...looks uncomfortable and slow with the bat...hard to watch!
@TheKLeifheit135 ай бұрын
@@GuardianofClevelandHeights right now it's poor no matter who you put there. Rocchio's been bad, Arias was bad, Schneemann is bad. The best defensive shortstop on the roster outside of Gimi is probably Freeman right now and he can't hit his way out of a wet paper bag
@SpicyG915 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to see the starting rotation finally piecing together. The bats are also starting to heat up a bit. But, can we please get Amed Rosario back via waivers and finally get rid of Rocchio?? We need some consistency and strength.
@abyz14675 ай бұрын
Rosario is a terrible shortstop though
@SpicyG915 ай бұрын
So is Rocchio. And our other options. At least Rosario has some pop to his bat. And there’s already team chemistry there with the core. I’d rather see him in there for a postseason run.
@abyz14675 ай бұрын
@@SpicyG91 Rocchio is objectively a good shortstop. I’d take Rosario back for his bat but wouldn’t let him near the infield if I could avoid it. I agree Rocchio should go though, it’s not 1985 we can’t have our starting shortstop hit .198 with 3 homers.
@SpicyG915 ай бұрын
@@abyz1467 I’m glad we can agree on a few things. It’s hard to find middle ground on the internet these days lol. We all want the same things, to get better and to win that WS 💪🏻
@abyz14675 ай бұрын
@@SpicyG91 👊🏻
@ssamaco5 ай бұрын
"He doesn't provide offense, he doesn't provide good defense, he only provides humor" Jeff with the quote that basically sums up Bryan Rocchio's career better than anything. I've been saying for MONTHS he's not a major league SS, can we please please please be done w this? And no more Arias. Try something else, anything else.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
slowly changing they didnt go to him as a defensively replacement on Sunday
@Justin-pq3rq5 ай бұрын
Should have just kept Rosario. He was top 5 in mlb in BA with men in scoring position and 2 outs. When we traded him. Yes he was average fielding wise. But his solid .270 compared to Rocchios .203 would look pretty dam good in this lineup. And he was a veteran leader and loved in the clubhouse especially by Jose. But what do I know.
@LockedonGuardians5 ай бұрын
defense was an issue and he was on his way to FA I get it
@Justin-pq3rq5 ай бұрын
@@LockedonGuardians I was referring to just paying him. That way we had him for this season instead of this Rocchio, arias, Schneeman crap.