Gubby's GUIDE TO 4on4 ! | WC3

[@andymenethil]

This reminds me when I used to play a lot wc3 6v6 with AI. getting up to 100 pop for the final fight until I get to destroy every building, heroes lvls 10 and stuff like that, so much fun!

[@BachelorChowFlavour]

Thanks for trying to keep this game alive Grubby

[@FollowGrubby]

You're very welcome!

[@kilo_golf9869]

I would love to see an over-explain video where you watch a replay of an all in 4v4 team fight and talk a little bit about things like positioning, micro, which units to prioritize, when to use items, etc.

[@CraftyF0X]

I remember back in college we played quite a lot 4s in w3 with the friends. I always told them I actually belive that is the future of wc3, as it is a lot more interesting and open to different styles and ways to play than any other rts before was in team game. I clearly stated I think the future of rts is on the social side, teamgame, more strategy, interesting synergies between players and races and a lot of different combination. I prefered 4v4 so I outlined 4v4 as the most fun and therefore with the most potential. Remember, back then most ppl considered 4s an unserious casual activity, 1v1 was all the rage (and many preferd sc for 1v1 as it was somewhat more intense) What can I say, after something like 15 years with most of the community enjoying 4s I feel so f..king vindicated, for once I clearly predicted the future.

[@zxcvasdfg3762]

can you make a tutorial how the human powerbuilding works? For example how many more resources it will use to powerbuild wit 3 and 5 peasants, how much time it will take and so on. t.bad english

[@rogerroger3423]

Hi Grubby, thank you for that great video. Just saw that you already have uploaded a video for bloody beginner as NE. do you plan to do new videos for the other races too ? would love to see a new guide for undead in 1vs1 or 4vs4... Anyway keep up the great work, really appreciate your videos. Grüße aus Deutschland ;)

[@FollowGrubby]

Yep, I'll do it!

[@elmago8052]

Wow this is exactly what I was looking for!! Thx grub

[@Norbingel]

This is great! But...who's "Gubby"?

[@buttunz]

I am so happy that you are doing guides again. I'm not the biggest fan of 4v4, but I am watching the whole thing. Keep being awesome Grubby.

[@mr.mardoc8651]

Love it. Please continue with each race for 4v4 I think it would be super helpful. I think also including recommended map vetos would be great, and what your role is on the team if you are each race and how that role changes when you have 2 or 3 of said race.

[@mulgrath3750]

Thanks Grubby, I've loved watching you for a long time, but haven't played WC3 competitively because I was discouraged by how much micro is required to be really good. However, your beginner guides like this one make the game seem a lot less intimidating to get started! I'd love to see a bloody beginner for Human, and I may just be inspired enough to give the game another go!

[@Omega900]

I remember playing divide and conquer all day and doing 2v2v2v2v2v2 or 3v3v3v3 or 4v4v4 it was so much fun, but my PC couldn't handle the 100 food from everyone and the massive battles

[@BH-gh6qm]

can you do this same thing for other races in 4v4?

[@zeggsy0554]

seconded

[@alemingoia871]

Grubby please make a 3vs3 video. Monzon and IceCrown are great and balanced maps. 😉

[@mr.mardoc8651]

No 3v3 in w3c

[@alemingoia871]

@@mr.mardoc8651 in w3c no but in normal rank there is and its a funny way to play this game.

[@mr.mardoc8651]

@@alemingoia871 wc3 bnet has no rankings lol they are adding some soon tho

[@zomfgroflmao1337]

This Gubby guy is pretty good. :P

[@aaabatteries9948]

Ah yes Gubby! My favorite player!

[@kulgan8096]

Never stop 4v4 ples

[@asdqwe123610]

Question: Which racial shop items are most valuable in team play? (particularly from off-race racial shops) Claritys for UD, and orb of lightning / staff of sanctuary for every race are my favorites.

[@АндрейДмитриев-г5щ]

The guide we needed but didn't deserve

[@dimitaraleksandrov6381]

Great stuff!! Looking forward to the next ones! Decision making in 4v4 seems very challenging i.e. when to fight, when to kite, when to TP, when to sac.. so anything in that regards would be much appreciated!

[@HavokSolo]

Gubby is a much better player than Grubby.

[@posted1426]

yuo should do more videos like this.

[@draheim90]

A Pally/rifle 4v4 guide would be sick. I just started playing again (thanks to YT recommending me your vids, not the first time this got me re-interested in the game) and although I play random, when I get HU I generally go Pally/rifle into MK/breakers with early expo. It can absolutely dominate and I find myself often having by far the strongest army but I also run into the issue of not having a very mobile army, not being able to siege or go on the offensive very well, and opponents split attacking/hit and running and it being quite effective.

[@RIDDLE0MASTER]

I had to re-install Warcraft 3 a couple of times due to problems with the pc, and always noticed that W3Champions doesn't show up from the get go. I always had, within the W3C app to click the redownload and reset buttons. 4v4 Night Elves tips would be interesting to watch, for I'm tired of constantly building mountain Giants and a Keeper.

[@MittensOnly]

I was thinking while watching that maybe I should try 4v4 ai, and then you told me I should! :) 1v1 ai hasn't been very beneficial outside of perfecting build orders. Computers just dont think and act like any human, it feels very strange.

[@Wil_Dsense]

and if allies are trash, toxic etc, TK is always an option. It’s not always about winning in this Game, LOL

[@silaspierre1377]

you ever try Invisible motars ? get like 1 maybe 2 sanctums then 2 to 3 workshops with plus 2 dmg [shredder/expo dependent ] then use sorceress invisible on motars and heros then go sniping enemy mains and kill all their buildings , kinda relies on strong allies who can get front line melee and anti air for your motars to hide behind during a 4v4 fight , can also switch to either inner fire motars , throw in a group of gyros for AA , or even tanks with Zeplins , works well with AM for mass tele , bloodmage or panda second to aow workers repairing with blizzard

[@Lord26614]

Hey Grubby, you missed a letter in the KZbin title. Maybe it would be helpful if it's corrected if someone searches your guide manuel and not via your channel. Great content and thanks very much for your work. Many greetz

[@supremo9968]

id would be great if you could explaon whixh units counter which. For example, you said that spellbreakers are good against Raiders. Why is that? Why second hero tinker when they go mass hh?

[@romariobroers94]

it sucks because i love warcraft 3 played it when i was young but when playing on WC3 Champions people really salty because i am to bad... so i prefer not to play anymore and play Aoe4

[@yudhistirahuang9117]

Tutor me ORC senpai! And how to micro properly in a big team fight? I hardly see clearly which one is my army and I end up losing all without my notice lol..

[@Lucius_Chiaraviglio]

Looks like the 4v4 maps are very different. This one gives each team 2 close spawns and 2 far spawns, but others I have seen you play on have each team on a row parallel to the enemy row, or the teams in tight groupings.

[@AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls]

Thanks for mentioning Booster I like to see my control groups haha (I just started playing some 4v4s again as your videos inspire).

[@MrXsanca]

Moore guides, pleeease, love the contents!

[@noshadb.e3111]

BOOOOM SHAKALAKA was the most important point of the Guide :)))))))

[@potatoman570]

Is W3Champions and Reforged the same? I wanna get into the game. Do I buy the blizzard one or get it from the internet?

[@Fiendoh]

gubby pls

[@johncharles3907]

Who is Gubby?

[@chrisg8989]

Ohh yes! I need the W3C download break down! Thank you!

[@backtodota]

Hey Grubby, i m a very old fan of yours. You are simply the most complex player of all times, despite not being rank 1, you will always be the best player who ever did it :) You also inspired me to start my dota 1 channel 1 year ago. If you could give a brother a shoutout in your next stream, would apreciate it! Kind regards, Abuser.

[@iarczzy]

This is IT i was waiting for it for months! thank you

[@FollowGrubby]

My pleasure!

[@Xengard]

this is a great beginner guide, but can you make one more focused on strategies? sometimes those questions of: "should i tp to save my ally's base?" "should i instead trade bases or tps?" "creep or harass if my allies are getting harassed?" there are many situations where a single (bad) tp or choosing the wrong battle makes your allies leave and you just lose...

[@FollowGrubby]

That's a good idea!

[@matiaspizarro7960]

Daaamn, Grubby once again with the quality stuff!

[@dabildor6129]

How do you know when it's acceptable to go into low upkeep or even high upkeep?

[@dabildor6129]

@FollowGrubby Thnx for directly/indirectly answering this question in your newest video! You gave clear examples with explanations I could relate to, thnx Grubby loved it!

[@Maves916]

I can barely get into 4v4, games don’t launch

[@patrickyoutube2415]

thank you king gubby (don't know if title is a typo hahaha)

[@johnthefalcon2903]

One interesting thing that I feel makes Warcraft 3 uniquely great is the team games. Like SC2 has a great 1 v 1 but I never found the team games to be that amazing. Age of Empires 2 which I did not play until the most recent remastered version of the game has great team games too. It's almost like they got it right by accident with these older games. While some of newer games have produced good 1 v 1 product through intentional design, I really have not seen an RTS recapture the magic of Warcraft 3 and AoE2 in terms of team games. Now Starcraft 2 did hit it big with co-op but that's different than team VS team.

[@psychexperience8040]

good vibes abd good content, thanks Grubby!

[@Nyarko02]

Hey Grubby So many thanks for what you do, I'm always very happy to see your funny thumbnails on my home page, with cool game themes or guides like this one. WC3 is what made what you are, so much respect to you for keeping it alive, All the best

[@Toenailslikkepind]

Where are my thumbnail waifus?!

[@domagojgregorovic2966]

Had i watched this a few weeks ago i'd have no idea what control groups meant and how to make them. It's useful to hear how to manage them

[@Allan0112]

would love to see this with more races, or even a post commentary of you or a other player.

[@Tommyum]

So good with the guide Grubby!

[@jimmycatapanocatapano4340]

ToD needs to be watching this

[@Chayliss]

My fav by far most played mode

[@0D0]

first

[@gatirenan]

Does w3c have SA servers? haha

[@diegopalmeira2587]

thank you master!!!

[@Earendil1991]

Hey Grubby, thanks for making this videos. Based on the one you uploaded yesterday, a friend of mine and myself wanted to get back into Wc3 and start playing 2vs2. In the early days we only played Maps like Footy and Trolls&Elves. Any recommendations on which races to chose?

[@FollowGrubby]

For 2on2, UD + elf (fiends+hunts) works very well, or you can play ORC + ELF (Blade+DH, grunt raider kodo & few hunts, then dryads mass)

[@Earendil1991]

@@FollowGrubby Thank you! Much appreciated :)

[@talentlogic1512]

Thanks Grubby!

[@yuukiritotrinh6567]

The control group thingy is still very hard for me to grasp :

[@FollowGrubby]

Hang in there!