Guide to Aftermarket Springs for Mechanical Keyboards | Linear, Slow, & Progressive Overview

[@lickriu]

Another reason why stock springs from big companies like gateron and cherry are not good is because of the variance. Sometimes these stock springs maybe be heavier or lighter than a switch that is the exact same

[@jimmynguyen973]

That's a great point! Forgot about manufacturing variances.

[@lickriu]

@@jimmynguyen973 Love your videos, very informative for the newer community members

[@jimmynguyen973]

@@lickriu Thank you! I'm glad people are finding these videos helpful

[@katarixy]

I was about to go to sleep but I can spare 10 minutes for one of my favorite keyboard youtubers lol

[@jimmynguyen973]

lmao thanks for the support as always Albert!

[@yaz.04]

my man has put in some mad effort in to this ngl

[@promiseadunoluwaemmanuel262]

As someone who is currently taking her time to understand how mechanical keyboards work, I love how you broke down these concepts in your video! Videos are best after all. Not much was found in blogs about how switches and their springs work anyway.

[@SolunaStarlight]

Yeah I'm still looking for a lot of this information, I want to know all the details!

[@Ragnorok64]

Man I wish I could like this video twice. Coming back with a little more experience in the hobby actually enhances the value of this vid and I think I'm ready to start buying after-market springs now.

[@iVilliain]

Slow springs on tactile switch is pretty smart if you really want to feel that tactility. Good video man.

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

Are those also called long springs?

[@iVilliain]

@@Fleshlight_Reviewer yes sir! The 16mm from tx springs.

[@Cereal.Fidgeter]

I fell in love with the TX slow 16mm springs when I got them so I bought a whole bunchof different without testing anything else lol I share the same opinion with you on these springs. Great content. I always felt like I had to try the thic thoc. I'll get on that hype train now. Lol

[@jimmynguyen973]

Thic Thoc have great springs! But are kinda hard to get ahold of

[@radbradmtb6915]

I've been stuck on Durock 3 stage 21mm 56g springs for a while now. Being triple stage, they feel even heavier than a typical 63.5g long spring found in a lot of stock switches and more akin to a 67 single stage long spring.. The big reason I like them, though, is the ultra snappy return. Makes for faster typing when double pressing keys, such as the word "school" for example. Great video. Enjoyable, informative watch!

[@itsyagirlapes]

This is sooooo helpful. Thank you for also sharing your thoughts on the different springs on tactile and how it affects the bump.

[@LittleMew133]

FINALLY, WHAT I LEARNED IN 9TH GRADE MATH CLASS CAN BE OF USE.

[@madmax252]

I really enjoy your mechanical keyboard videos - thank you! They are very thorough and you explain concepts very well. I am waiting on some TX 70g springs as we speak! I love my Tealios, but they actually feel a tad too light for me. I hope I like them better with the spring swap. Cheers!

[@jimmynguyen973]

Thank you, glad you find the videos helpful!

[@reannewong3572]

Best keeb physics lecture on KZbin 😍😍

[@iron_commander2161]

Great work dude. Got all the information i was looking for.

[@MatthewEncina]

Thanks for sharing the in depth info!

[@jimmynguyen973]

Hey Matthew! Huge fan, glad to see you're getting into mechanical keyboards 😊 If you run across two-staged or three-staged springs, they're basically slow curved springs, but even more so

[@MatthewEncina]

@@jimmynguyen973 I ended up buying long 16mm 67g TX springs for my ink blacks. I prefer tactile, but I’m hoping these might give me a little more tension.

[@jimmynguyen973]

@@MatthewEncina Ink blacks are pretty heavy stock with their 70g bottom out weight, so I'm not sure if 68g 16mm will get you noticeable results. Theoretically, both springs will feel the same once you get towards the bottom, but with the 16mm you'll start feeling more tension earlier. If you're good with the tension at the bottom, two-staged/multi staged springs would get you a more noticeable result overall. Didn't get a chance to cover these springs since they came out after the video

[@MatthewEncina]

@@jimmynguyen973 thanks for clarifying, especially with the multi staged springs! Meant to say Black Box Inks, which supposedly feel lighter than the regular Black Inks V2. (According to the folks at KeebsForAll, who recommended to swap out the spring out).

[@jimmynguyen973]

@@MatthewEncina Got it, would love to hear back about your results! I haven't used box black inks yet, but looks like come with 19mm springs, and with an actuation force of 60g, I'm guessing it bottoms out around 70g (bottom-out force is what spring weight is listed at). If you don't get the tension you like, I'd recommend going for 72+g springs. I didn't see springs that heavy on KeebsForAll, but you can get them here mekibo.com/products/tx-springs-16mm?variant=32481936998460

[@Mido-qr6bw]

Very informative and the way you explain about this topic is really easy to understand. Thank you 🙏

[@miabecerra2611]

Fucked that this hobby is making me learn physics

[@Ragnorok64]

This was all information I didn't know. Great, informative video!

[@koksem]

I really like the scientific breakdown of a spring! Thanks a lot!

[@pimp.avogadro]

Still underrated channel. Keep the good work!

[@chaobyte3717]

I was looking for something exactly like this because I was looking into swapping springs. Thank you so much!

[@mechfixchill4779]

This is a pretty good video! The community's been needing a comprehensive video - one part of note, your progressive curve looks closer to sprit's complex curve, to my understanding I think the progressive springs are closer to an exponential curve throughout the movement! Loved the video, great pacing :)

[@jimmynguyen973]

Ah yes you're right! Must've had a brain fart when creating this. Glad you liked it!

[@EnnTomi1]

very informative great video for sure. I started with 63g spring as my first keyboard build, the first thing i notice is typing is very nice, bouncy and the key "hugs" my tip very well. but as soon as i went for gaming, I just don't have the sustainability for it. It could be my fingers are used to whatever the spring the previous keyboard was using, or just personal preference.

[@tyraelhermosa]

Good video. I agree, I think: by far, the most important quality of the spring is its weight.

[@EmeraldDragon05]

Wow, this video is great! I've been in the mk hobby for years but there's always so much to learn. Thanks for this! And keep up the good work; your content is really good and easily digestable to people of all enthusiast levels. Looking forward to more of your content :D Sincerely, A new subscriber

[@WrexBF]

I recently got my first ever mechanical keyboard (HK Gaming GK61 with gateron optical silvers). The first thing I noticed is how heavier the switch got as I was bottoming it out. I'm definitely gonna replace the stock spring with a spring that feels more consistent throughout. The second thing I noticed is the actuation distance. That 1mm actuation distance felt wrong to me. I'm one of those people that like to hover around the actuation point while gaming. ( i don't like to bottom out a key, I also don't like to let a key fully reset.) Luckily for me, Gateron optical reds are like silvers but with a 2mm actuation and a 4mm total travel distance.

[@Mejy]

I recently watched you keycaps video and loved how in depth you were with your explanations. I was wondering if you actually knew step by step on how to create a GB set, I've got my palette, design and some renders I was able to make but I'm stuck on what I should be trying to do to make this come to life any help would really be appreciated thank you.

[@jimmynguyen973]

Sadly I don't know the steps to running a group-buy, this is the only publicly available resource that I know of : www.keychatter.com/2015/10/10/how-to-create-a-keycap-set-for-a-group-buy/ But to me, it sounds like the next step is to post an Interest Check on reddit and/or geekhack to get feedback & public reception. After that, working with vendors to help with fulfillment with the set.

[@Mejy]

@@jimmynguyen973 thank you so much for taking time to reply I really appreciate it

[@Jairyoku]

Was just looking for something like this! Thanks Jimmy :)

[@melon9285]

look at me, doing math ...for keyboards never thought i would see this day

[@chunkymilk1288]

I bought Novelkey Creams, and they feel really nice to me when broken in. However, the crunchiness and noise coming from the spring is unbearable TwT

[@kevin15535]

I swapped my springs after breaking them in. Absolute trash when stock, but breaking them in, spring, and some lube are insane.

[@mrmeaty5619]

great video but i cant get over how you look into the camera the whole time xD

[@urielalbertosanchezm]

There are subtle thing about springs: progressive ones with 2 stages and 3 stages don't have the "toing" sound, but not everybody notice this

[@zivens.2407]

Thank you for this overview!

[@Mattcamel51]

Very educational

[@samdeur]

i love gateron springs.. i'm addicted to reds.. found a seller on Aliexpress that sells 45g springs.. i compared them with sum of my Gateron Milky reds and they are identical.. So now i ordered two more packs.. i already modded sum "OUTEMU Silent Forest" that had 62G springs to these nice 45G springs..and typing on it now.. really really nice.. i also have Spritt springs ..and i just ordered / joined a GB for a board and was thinking about adding sum Spritt springs but there's no deed these are so good and affordable.. For now that's my springs. hahahah

[@Xengrii]

You are my new favorite KZbinr! 😊 Your videos are awesome and easy to understand, keep it up! I have learned a lot just watching your videos. Btw, I am planning on buying Glorious Pandas, I suppose those don’t need a spring replacement (?). I ask it because I am currently using an Anne Pro 2 with lubed Gateron browns and I like the actuation force of 45g. I previously had a cheap Outemu Blue switch (unlubed) keyboard and when I go back to try it, the 60g actuation feels really heavy to me. Will the 67g on the Glorious Panda be too noticeable? I thought about changing the springs for something lighter but have no idea if it’s even worth it or noticeable. 🤔 I really like tactile switches and my 2 options are Glorious Panda because they seem to have good reviews and the Cherry MX Brown because they are good, really cheap and easy to find 🤔 I want something easy to type on for long typing sessions and I remember the Outemu Blues being too heavy after some time typing. Do you have any recommendations? Thank you in advance! Have a great day.

[@jimmynguyen973]

Thank you, I'm glad you are finding the videos helpful! I believe Outemu Blues bottom outs at around 60g, not actuates at 60g. That's 10g heavier than Gateron browns, which bottoms out at around 50g. Gateron brown chart-studio.plotly.com/~haata/100 Outemu blue chart-studio.plotly.com/~haata/135 I'm actually surprise Gateron browns bottom out at 50g, that's really light. I think Cherry browns bottom out at 60g, did not realize Gateron browns were 10g lighter. In your case, you may want to consider getting 60g/62g springs for the Glorious Pandas. They will still be heavier than the Gateron browns. You can also consider getting 55g springs, some people like them for tactiles, but most people don't go that light for tactiles. Here's a review about 62g/65g/67g Zealios switches and how the different spring weight compares www.keychatter.com/2015/08/19/review-project-zealio-switches/ But one thing to keep in mind is that the bump on the Glorious Pandas is more rounded than the Zealios v1 and Gateron browns, so that will play a factor in the switch feel. You're going to have to go over a bigger bump as shown in this graph at around the 0.45mm mark. Holy Panda chart-studio.plotly.com/~haata/377/top-clack-holy-panda/#/ vs the bump here at around 1.21mm Gateron brown chart-studio.plotly.com/~haata/100

[@Xengrii]

@@jimmynguyen973 Thank you so much for the information, I will have a look and decide :) For now, I think I will buy a switch tester to test some options and wait a bit until Glorious Pandas are available without pre-orders.

[@peanutbutterbean1738]

Hi, just something i cant seem to find a definitive answer to, what is the difference between a 2 and 3 stage spring, like how different would the force graphs look?

[@busybird7149]

Awesome video. I like how you actually break down the math on why the springs feel like they do. I'm planning on making/modding an ultra-quiet keyboard, and I'm thinking of using linear switches with heavy progressive springs. It makes sense in theory, and hopefully it might mitigate the upstroke sound compared to using something like a 100g linear spring, right?

[@jimmynguyen973]

That's interesting, never thought about using heavy progressive springs to reduce the upstroke sound. That makes sense, but for me I wouldn't want to use such a heavy progressive spring since I always bottom out. I think it you should consider getting silent switches for an ultra-quiet keyboard. There are some good choices these days for quiet switches: Boba U4 for tactile, silent alpacas for linears. Or my personal favorite for a silent linear: MX Zilents (cherry silent stem in a Zeal/aliaz housing)

[@HoodSwami]

How they affect sound is what I’m really trynna figure out

[@namnguyenhai2819]

so compare to TX springs, short have the most difference between starting point and bottom out while long have the least, I used to ktt strawberry, now I use Cherry Black Hyperglide but it's super pinggggggg, love the spring of ktt strawberry but I don't know the type of it

[@leinardesteves3987]

Is there a spring that is heavier only when lifting up? My current switches feel great but I feel like they lift up a bit too slow and there's not enough force to lift the keycaps against the weight of my fingers resting

[@kaitodesu]

Super informative thanks dud

[@0Metatron]

I just bought some Thic Thock Konpeitou switches and the springs are crunchy and pingy as all hell so I’ve ordered some TX 65g Long so see if it makes a difference

[@dhoffnun]

Science! Love it.

[@Ax4400]

Great video, what is the difference between 2 and 3 stage KB switch springs? Just got this RK84 w/ red switches & I'm in love. However, I noticed the key caps felt just a little too light. Don't like to all of sudden type a string of a letter by accident calling my attention to how lightly I must rest my finger tips on the or how carefully I have to keep my thumbs from resting on the space bar. Its my first time using a 75% keyboard. I do type far too much to have to be so conscious of the resting point for my fingers🤣 Was thinking about it & thought well I like the switches just not the pressure to type, so I started looking for spring options.

[@sethholton8597]

I was too busy trying to see if I could beat this guy in a staring contest to listen to what he was saying

[@DMCnME]

Love Black Inks but 70g is too heavy. Would it be wise to swap with a lighter linear spring or something like the Sprit slow spring? If slows feel heavier at the top, maybe it won’t give the feeling of being lighter when it actually is? I guess I just need to test and haven’t pulled the trigger yet. What is everyone using to swap Black Ink springs?

[@reflex191]

Great video on the springs! Was recently looking into aftermarket ones lately because my Drop Holy Pandas had a ton of crunch even with lube. I swapped for the 14mm 65g TX and I agree with what you said. The tactility and top half of the press just feels too light now. The spring crunch is entirely gone though. I think there’s some noise from the leaf still, maybe because they’re so tactile? I do wish I could find a stock 1:1 replacement just higher quality. Maybe the Durock 67g? We’re the Spirit Slow springs you used the “Slow Extreme” on their site? And have you given their MX Supreme springs a shot (wondering how long they are as well)?

[@jimmynguyen973]

Yup, its the Slow Extreme. Haven't tried their MX Supreme, but I believe it's their standard linear spring. I haven't compared the Drop stock spring & Durock 67g so I can't say, but the TX 16mm 65g would make the top half feel heavier (they also come in 67g).

[@kyc6512]

This was super informative! Between sprit slow curved, Thick Thock DL, and Gateron yellow spring which one is your favorite?

[@jimmynguyen973]

All 3 are pretty close, but I would say Thic Thock DL, then Sprit Slow, then Gat yellow. But Thic Thock DL is pretty hard to get ahold of, so the Sprit Slow is a great choice.

[@kennith.]

Came across this this video, was informative, like your advice as in don't worry so much about the differences and just get the actuation force you want. Have you tried a Topre or Topre clone board yet. If so the thocky sound and near silent typing ... is that achievable with mechanicals?

[@Tk12038]

I KNOW U SAID IT DONT MATTER FROM SLOW OR LINEAR AND SHOULD BE THE LAST THING BUT IM NOW CONFLICTED ON WHICH

[@jimmynguyen973]

I like slows if that helps

[@Tk12038]

@@jimmynguyen973 For gaming or typing or for both?

[@jimmynguyen973]

@@Tk12038 both

[@xornedge8204]

60-80g Gateron Reds here I come!

[@KaiNausicaa]

Amazing video!

[@etern4lgod]

This video is so helpful! Im thinking of spring swapping MX Blacks Hyperglides, and I want them to feel sort of like Reds. Should I spring swap to 15mm or 16mm, and should I be picking a 45g or 55g weighted spring? Not too sure of the mechanics of it all, and was wondering if you could help me out.

[@jimmynguyen973]

If you want them to feel like reds, get 15mm 55g springs, 45g would feel even lighter than reds.

[@nikitavoronov9350]

thx for information

[@zerteruz]

How to change springs by tactil switches ?

[@bjorn980]

Hi I need help. I do like springs with a litte higher weight. I got CIV stock blacks if i weight it on a precision scales they got 65g on 60% push through. The Aqua Kings(67g) got 55 grams. I want the middle for my new switches. Do I need to choose a 60g spring or is it bottom out force that I have to choose, like 70g equals 60g? And also I like if it gets more difficult to press as I continue to press, but there helps me your Awesome video, thanks!

[@syrup9229]

is the spring swap worth it?

[@Alex-vr9vh]

When you say a spring feel stiffer with the 14mm length spring, Does it mean it feels heavier than the regular length?

[@methus9812]

my MSI vigor GK71 with sonic red switches just arrived and i tried gaming with it but my hands are too heavy so i start pressing keys that are not meant to be pressed. Right now im considering opening all the switches and replacing the stock springs with heavier ones.

[@wagonet]

Great video

[@eysgaming853]

Nice explanation. Btw i wanna ask how progressive spring in linear switches? Are they becoming "unlinear" and weird? or more firm feel when bottoming out? Thanks

[@jimmynguyen973]

they feel more interesting to me. it is a firmer bottom out, but it's not overly firm. i still bottom out on my progressive linears

[@eysgaming853]

@@jimmynguyen973 Ah i see, btw from the sound perspective is the sound change more muted and high pitched when using progressive spring?

[@sean4706]

You can’t say the stiffness of a spring gets increased with adding turns to it, that’s kinda wrong. The stiffness gets increased by increasing density of turn, this can be done by adding more turns into the same amount of length. Stiffness also can get increased by using thicker wire or using another more stuff material. All in all a good vid although your physiks and how you explained a lot of it were wrong or missleading.

[@kurtdecastro8197]

whats the difference between 2 stage springs and progressive springs?

[@zonghanlee776]

i’m probably too late and i hope you can help me. so i have a boba gum switches keyboard but the stock springs are too heavy for typing and gaming and i’m not sure what to switch to and add on thic thoc springs isn’t available for my region

[@bimakurniawan3444]

what's the difference between gold and silver spring

[@stefanusrianto8781]

I love the Gateron Yellow of KS3 which said to have bottomout of 60g. But when I used Gateron INK Red which said has the same 60g bottomout, they felt very different on bottom out. The Ink red still feels lighter. Yes I know that Yellow has slower spring (50g actuation, while ink red is 45g actuation), but I do think either the yellow maybe has like 62g ish bottomout, or the ink red bottomout is only less than 60g. Now I'm confused which spring t o buy 60g or 62g lmao

[@jimmynguyen973]

the yellow springs are longer, so they are more compressed in the switch, which makes them feel heavier. between 60g and 62g, you wont really feel a difference. but between a 14mm spring (standard size) vs 16mm ("slow springs", but i think yellow actually uses 15mm), you will.

[@8bitsamurai6]

Having this issue with a second batch of Dusk Pandas I bought. The first ones were amazing and one of ,myfavs, but then I bought some more and even after lubing they have a unbarable sping ping. Not sure what happened with this batch?

[@Awichcha1623]

Such a good researched and detailed clip.👏 Could you suggest the suitable spring for the Lilac linear switch ? I found the switch has a ping noise 😖 just want the same 62g feeling without ping noise 🙏

[@jimmynguyen973]

have you tried lubing the springs? the springs with jwk switches should be decent enough

[@Awichcha1623]

@@jimmynguyen973 finally got it, the ping is gone. I thought that the vendor lubed the switch for me as I ordered the lubed option. But after I dissemble them, it was nothing lol.

[@FitraHomestead]

Excellent video liked and subbed! I have just ordered some durock linear 67 looking to get some tx 16mm springs, I haven't got the springs yet need to order it all at the same time. Shall I got with the 16mm 67g springs? Also are stock durock springs similar to 14 or 16mm?

[@jimmynguyen973]

Order the 16mm if you think you'll like a slow-curved spring better. The durock springs are similar to 14mm, and they're still good springs.

[@king_dmj5280]

@@jimmynguyen973 Should I get ThicThock DLv2 springs or sprit 63.5 slow curve springs?

[@jimmynguyen973]

@@king_dmj5280 Never used the v2 springs, but I hear the length of the v2 spring are the same as the sprit slow curve springs. I really like ThicThock springs so I would go for those if you can

[@king_dmj5280]

@@jimmynguyen973 The v2s are available in ringerkeys

[@jimmynguyen973]

@@king_dmj5280 ooo that's cool, I would go for those then

[@shibamiori8631]

just a quick question so if I want my NK Creams to have the same weight spring as my gateron yellows i would need a 15mm 62g or 65g spring is that correct? thank you

[@ashmuryode2389]

what about Kailh Box Black, did they use same spring as gateron?

[@iVilliain]

So is 14 a slow or progressive? And what is 16? Correct me if I am wrong, but from feel alone, i think the 14 is slow and the 16 is progressiver. Is that correctr?

[@jimmynguyen973]

16mm is slow. The longer the spring, the more preload the spring has in the switch, resulting in a higher initial force needed to push down on the switch. Progressive springs have different density of coils along the spring, the length doesn't make a spring progressive.

[@cognition26]

Tx long or sprit slow extreme II in 57g or 65g only for me.

[@cliptch978]

Can i have opinion guys Is 62 grams for a tactile is too heavy?

[@stevedo6949]

Love your content, your explanations are so helpful. I am looking to try tx 16mm springs and usually like 67g linear springs on all my switches. Do you think a 62 or 65g tx 16mm spring might feel more comfortable to try?

[@jimmynguyen973]

Glad you found it helpful! If you're used to 67g, 62g might feel a bit light for you. I would go for the 65g.

[@stevedo6949]

@@jimmynguyen973 Thanks! Just ordered some now.

[@hesrizen1519]

So, if i want a different spring for my kailh speed switches (pink, copper) which kailh listetmd as 50g ( the actuation) i shouldnt buy a 50g spring?

[@felipe2fp]

Man I love your video, really good tips. I recently bought a gateron clear 35g and is too light, first time on a ortolinear split blank keycaps, it's making me miss everything. I think I will go for a Sprit 60g slow spring...but I'm really curious with the complex spring, it's too light in the beginning that make you miss click when rest your fingers over the keys?

[@jimmynguyen973]

Thanks! And that would depend on the person, but yes that can be an issue. For complex/progressive springs, I go for 68g+ since I'm used to 62g-65g on other springs.

[@felipe2fp]

@@jimmynguyen973 good tips! Honestly I liked my old mx red, and maybe something just a bit lighter than him would be good. Because of this I though on the complex 63.5g...but in the end I will go.with the 63.5g slow, I'm already missing too many clicks with gateron clears...better increase the force

[@arifimran7265]

Hi, I'm using gateron yellow stock spring. I aim to swap into a lighter pressing feel. However, i dont know the weight for them, thus making it harder for me to know which one i should get.. Could you give me recommendations on what weights should i go for?

[@jimmynguyen973]

i would look 55g-60g springs

[@Sebastian-qn9vi]

Is there any spring you recommend for a first time spring swapper, length and weight?

[@jimmynguyen973]

no because its very subjective. but i like slows.

[@deluxesofa]

What do u like more slow curve or linear and for which switches ?

[@jimmynguyen973]

I like slow curve for linear and tactile switches (I don't use clicky switches so can't comment on that)

[@Skynet_11]

Do you think that trading the gateron yellows springs to a sprit 63.5gr slow II is worth it? Or that I’ll feel any difference ?

[@jimmynguyen973]

I don't think it'll make much of a difference, you might feel it be slightly heavier on the top

[@Skynet_11]

@@jimmynguyen973 Thanks dude. You saved me 30 bucks and a lot of hassle :D

[@rlnwvr]

does spring length matter?

[@harryislami3248]

Whick aftermarket spring would suit boba u4t?

[@jimmynguyen973]

depends on your personal preference, i think the spring they come with are great. if you need a lighter or heavier spring, get any tx/sprit/thicthock spring. if you want to emphasize the bump a bit more, get slow springs.

[@harryislami3248]

@@jimmynguyen973 well i guess i m gonna buy a slow spring then for the increased bump

[@anijahpowell9957]

Hopefully I’ll get an answer, but can anyone tell me the difference between two stage springs and slow springs? Are the characteristics/feel of the spring the same in a switch?

[@jimmynguyen973]

two stage springs are basically extra slow springs. take the characteristics of a slow spring and emphasize it more

[@shymmon]

What about the gold kbdfans springs?

[@DimitrisVasil]

Hello guys, I need your help. I am suffering from rsi. I am trying to build a switch that is optimal for my condition. So far I have tried: gateron reds. gateron clears, and kailh speed silver switches. I got the clears thinking that the 35g spring they come with would make things better for me. But the problem is that I bottom out all the time on them, and actually made my rsi worse. Gateron reds are ok, but I still feel a lot of fatigue when I type on them. Kailh speed silvers are the best so far. The fast actuation makes a big difference for me. My fingers don't need to move a lot and it is harder for me to bottom out. My requirements are: 1. strictly linear 2. minimal effort to actuate. 3. hard to bottom out (I guess a progressive spring would help). 4. fast actuation. Any recommendations?

[@ilikehiking]

That camera angle makes me feel like youre staring into my soul lmao

[@NotGoodAtYoutube]

Do you recommend getting different springs for gateron ink blacks v2 silents?

[@NotGoodAtYoutube]

I don't care about weight. I also want the most thoccy spring, any suggestions? (Tysm in advance)

[@jimmynguyen973]

If all you care about is thoc, the spring won’t matter (as far as I know)

[@NotGoodAtYoutube]

@@jimmynguyen973 You have any switch recommendations for thocc? Looking at gateron ink v2's but they're pretty expensive. I could get them but it'd be nice if there was something cheaper. Gateron reds sound pretty thoccy when lubed but idk.

[@jimmynguyen973]

@@NotGoodAtKZbin could look into durock Pom switches (but they’re around the same price as inks) divinikey.com/products/durock-pom-linear-switches Could also look into novelkeys creams (def lube these with 205g0)

[@NotGoodAtYoutube]

@@jimmynguyen973 TYTY

[@downundergarage6968]

Hi there, a quick q on ur vid. Are you saying that tx 14mm 65g feel a little loghter at top vs stock gat yellows? The yellows are supposed to be 60gm bottom out, so in theory a lighter spring... im confused.. cheers

[@jimmynguyen973]

Maybe, I don't have a force curve machine to measure a tx 14mm 65g vs a gat yellow spring. If they were the same bottom-out force, then yes the 14mm would feel lighter at the top. But since they're different, I'm not totally sure.

[@andrez9061]

Buying gold cherry mx springs are still better than stock cherry springs or are they the same?

[@jimmynguyen973]

Gold plated springs don't really do anything, but any aftermarket spring will be better than stock springs.

[@bryanleung2692]

For your comparison of the TX 65g 16mm to the Gat Yellow springs how much heavier is the difference on a scale of 1-10? I'm debating between getting 65g or 67g since I bottom out fairly easily on gat yellows.

[@jimmynguyen973]

In your case, I think you should go with the 67g

[@bryanleung2692]

@@jimmynguyen973 thanks for the reply! Video was very informative :)

[@lazypieceoftoast8200]

I have a question, for nk creams would the tx 14 mm be better over the 16 mm? I want something along the lines of 45 g actuation and 60 g bottom out but not sure the difference between 14 and 16 mm.

[@jimmynguyen973]

It's hard for me to say without a machine to create force curves. The 14mm will require less force at the start vs the 16mm, but I have no idea if it will change the actuation force.

[@shot181]

Is their a big difference in the sprit slow extreme and new slow extreme 3?

[@jimmynguyen973]

The description states "Starts +6g heavier than Slow," so Im guessing its a longer spring that gets compressed more in the switch, so it will take more initial force to push down

[@francisjacela7123]

I have Gateron Ink Black V2 and looking to spring swap to remove that spring crunch or spring ping. Any suggestions?

[@jimmynguyen973]

Any of the springs mentioned in this video should be fine. I really like slow springs, and the black inks 70g springs are a bit too heavy for me, so I like to go for 62g thicthock dl springs, or sprit's 63.5g slows

[@stotlekeebs]

im still confuse about the springs type and all that stuff,what i get is slow curve are good for linears,and progressive are good for tactiles,somebody pls help me

[@jimmynguyen973]

I wouldn't use progressive on tactiles. Slows are nice for linears or tactiles, progressive are interesting on linears. It all comes down to personal preference though. Spring types are pretty deep into the weeds of custom keyboards, regular linear springs will do just fine.

[@michalrudecki1453]

Are 60g Gateron Black Inks too heavy for gaming?

[@jimmynguyen973]

I don’t think so, I generally use around 65g

[@TheHYEGUY]

First of all forgive me on my lack of knowledge when it comes to switches. I just spray lubed gateron yellow switches and they feel really smooth. I might switch them out though because they feel really stiff to me (50g operating force and 60 g bottom out). I've used Razer's red opto mechanical switches and they were a dream to use. Can anyone recommend linear (not slow) springs that feel similar? I don't know the specs unfortunately. Or perhaps springs similar to gateron red switches? Thank you.

[@jimmynguyen973]

I'm not sure if it'll be similar, but sounds like you'll like springs at around 55g bottom-out force (60g max). You can buy TX springs in 55g, 50g, and even 45g (but 45g is pretty damn light) www.us.txkeyboards.com/products/tx-springs

[@filmsfornerds]

me after ordering random springs figuring out i should've made some research....

[@crodd.2941]

Great vid, how can I enroll to your class?

[@jimmynguyen973]

Thanks! By smashing the subscribe button 👉🔘

[@nicholasm8946]

What if you reversed the insertion of the progressive/complex springs on the tactiles? Would it make the bump more pronounced assuming that the strength needed to press the switch would be highest at the beginning of the key press?