Guide To Using Zebras With All Sony Gammas

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Enjoy guys! This was time consuming one to make so pls share etc

[@CinematographyLischkaChannel2]

thanks for teaching us. gear doesn't solve a lack of knowledge.

[@RanjanSharma2001]

Very very helpful video which I watched without blinking my eyes, Thanks for such in depth video.

[@JonatanCastro]

This video = GOLD

[@MusicFed]

this video is amazing, thanks so much!!

[@micronesia3797]

Very interesting and helpful. I’m somewhat new to using zebras, getting these values locked in would it take the “guess work” out of setting exposure correctly?

[@ErikHill1]

Great video Harv! Assuming this was mainly for 10 bit, what would you suggest for 8 bit out of the ZV-E10?

[@realarkeli]

Any answers on this?

[@herbojohnson]

@@realarkeli slog 2

[@YogevMontekyo]

good video. false color and zebras work well. sometimes had difficulties in getting the correct value for various skin tones and conditions, but overall system works :)

[@Josh.Vanjani]

That was a very interesting and informative listen, Harv! I'm going to try out those values next time I film. Also, it seems you guys in the UK say "Zebra" a bit different than here in the US (where it's more like two e's). 🦓

[@patrickfalls6819]

It is because they pronounce the letter Z as "ZED," and we pronounce the letter Z as "ZEE."

[@Tugela60]

​@Patrick Falls Zed is the correct pronunciation. "Zee" is a uniquely American thing. Everywhere else in the English speaking world it is "Zed".

[@Scriptshepherd]

Exactly the video I was looking for. Thank you.

[@gillesmatheronpro]

Superb work, very useful and efficient. Thank you !

[@stevemaster85]

I use C1 zebra to expose for middle gray with a color checker, than overexpose + 1 and 1/3 stop for skintone ad a slight overexposure that log profiles likes. Than switch to C2 zebra 106 to check for clipping

[@mirvinj05]

Thank you sir!!! Just jumped up from an a6000 do I'm relearning everything. Just the info I was looking for.

[@moc1911]

That was SUPER helpful. Thank you so much!

[@RKAlapana]

Thanks for this video....really a best guide for a best video...thank you so much

[@georgbucher6873]

Thank you very much for this very interesting and useful informations!!! Very well done!

[@victormultanen1981]

It is very valuable video!

[@mattskiduggan]

Thanks for these videos, really informative.

[@edwintan73]

very details and easy understanding content! thanks so much!

[@jeffhampton6972]

This is ridiculously helpful, thank you so very much! :D

[@jerryvandebeek8966]

Super helpful and thanks for keeping it simple.

[@pierre1509]

Great video, thanks a lot. Using the Gamma Assist to display Rec709 instead of a recorded flat profile, do the zebra need to be set up such as with Rec709 or as with the flat profile ?

[@travelpatron]

Wonder to know too

[@angelopoulis5825]

for s cinetone, gray card should be still at 41% , or at 50%. is 41% rule specifically for slog3? thanks

[@shpynda]

Did you find answer?

[@angelopoulis5825]

@@shpynda no. but for s cinetone, zebra skintones should be 65-70.. so use that instead. also a white card should be 81% for s-cinetone..i think the gray should be 50% but not sure

[@xutsider]

so if the zebras show too much you have to change the exposure?

[@olivier-unia-dharmaprod]

top.... perfect job... thank you

[@kanphyo1990]

thank bro… this video helps me alots

[@CVisions]

Thank you so much for this!

[@peterkertesz2861]

Awesome video. I just want to confirm one things - These slog3 settings (94+) and (52+-2) are when lookign at Slog3 on camera without applying a Rec709 Lut on camera, right? I like to monitor my slog3 footage while teh rec709 lut is on ( not the gamma assist) - do you have zebra numbers for those as well? thx

[@frederickreed4604]

Thanks for doing this.

[@mpark1206]

Thanks for the breakdown. For the skin tones, are you adjusting until you JUST see the zebras?

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Thanks! No, as I set a % range I’m looking to see zebra coverage on most of the key light side. I’m not worried about a couple of brighter areas (the bit where I mention natural oils) 👍🏻

[@mpark1206]

@@HarvVideoAudioStuff ok. I just didn't know the difference between lower limit and std range. Did some tests and looks great with phantom luts. Thanks.

[@MrPhillipsTheChangeAgent]

Great video I can not find any videos that discuss this topic for individuals with darker skin tones. If you do a video like that it would get many views. Man I wish you could have grabbed a buddy with darker skin tones. Anyhow would you lower the limit for darker skin tones?

[@AJCoReTV]

Thx! Do you have a beginners guide for waveforms also?

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Many thanks, waveforms video is coming 👍🏻

[@AJCoReTV]

@@HarvVideoAudioStuff subbed!

[@mustafagomen7084]

Thank you for this very clear video. I have a question are these settings valid for the sony A7S2? is there still great interest in filming in slog 3 with the sony A7S2?

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Many thanks, yes should still work for a7S2. I always used to use slog2 when my a7S2 was my primary 👍🏻

[@norgerichard]

Thank u so much bro

[@gooseman294]

Great video. Insanely helpful. A couple of follow up questions. Do the SLOG values still apply if you are using a conversion LUT on an external monitor or the gamma display assist in camera? Or should they be closer to the CINE profile values since it’s being converted to a rec.709 color space? Thanks!

[@Visions_in_Toyko]

Good question, I am keen to know the answer to this as well

[@gooseman294]

@@Visions_in_Toyko I used his Slog 3 zebra numbers in camera and exposed for skin tones, the image on the external monitor was properly exposed. I didn’t bother putting zebras on the external monitor and it came out nice. I didn’t have a problem with blown out skin tones that I couldn’t recover at all which I’ve struggled with before. I guess I could have checked false color on the external monitor to see where the values fell but over all the values he’s recommended worked really well. It gave me the properly exposed image I wanted so that I could do what I needed to in post with color.

[@blaylock1978]

Nice video, thanks! I know it isn’t your favorite method, but when exposing with an 18% gray card, I have a Z cam which uses two different zebra values one that goes from 0 to 50 and the other that goes from 55 to 100. So I didn’t really understand why there isn’t just one slider but to simplify it, what would I set either one of those two for the 18% gray card? I guess I’m just trying to simplify the process. Thank you in advance.

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Hmm strange, I’ve not worked with a zcam (yet) but hope to at some point. Would the 0-50 be for grey card and 55-100 for skin tones/highlights etc?

[@blaylock1978]

@@HarvVideoAudioStuff It’s funny because I’ve found nothing in it. In the guide it just references the zebras as an assist tool but doesn’t explain it. Thank you for you help regardless. I’ll keep playing and see but your video helps understand the concept so I appreciate it and hopefully I can find the right sweet spot for the settings.

[@tamilorejoseph4704]

Hey what camera are u using

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Sony a7S III 👍🏻 but it’s the phantom luts that make the difference, link & code in description

[@stuartcarr2150]

Really appreciate your sharing of information Harv and love your humorous delivery but please dial down the background music. Don’t get me wrong the tune is great but way too busy and distracting to be background music which I think competes with you….the main subject of the video. It’s probably you playing the guitar I’m guessing and bonus points to you if so…….nice !!! Please give some consideration to putting some uninteresting, benign elevator music behind your very interesting voice and content as there’s no need for distracting competition of your excellent creative content. Please don’t be offended, it just does my brain in trying to decipher two awesome content streams at once ! Love the music which IMHO really should be listened to solo especially if it’s your playing. Luv Ya Work 👍

[@Filmmakers_N]

Good afternoon, do you always use zebra in 109 for outdoor shooting( s-cinetone )?

[@albertbernal7434]

So if slog2 zebras is 106 what should are lower limit be ?

[@transicionesdevinilos.3120]

so deep. ty.

[@andrewheki2257]

Would you set S-Log2 zebras at 62 for ETTR?

[@standard_gauge]

I was looking at video by Gerald Undone and in it he recommended that the your Zebra levels set a little below the maximum for the gamma your are using. So CINE4 is 109% set the Zebra at say 106%. Does anyone have a view on this idea?

[@hedrian2322]

Mmm im a little confuse, i though they grey card suppousted to be use to set the White banlance not the exposure, someone could help me?

[@AJCoReTV]

It can be used for both. For exposure you can use it to get 41 ire which will give you clean exposure for general purpose. It can also be used for setting white balance.

[@calebfortune]

Been watching for years and can honestly say your color work has massively improved. Definitely not meant as a backhand compliment - there were a TON of creators that used to over push skin tone looks that lead to really odd duo tone roll off that I felt I used to see in yours. These more recent videos are a perfect balance and should definitely set the standard for some other creators in the YT community.

[@chrisnigul]

Phantom LUT pdf says to set zebras STD+Range at 56 IRE and with a +- of 3. Did you try that setting?

[@gagan.dee.p]

What is the highlight clipping value of a6700 while shooting in PP Off.. i.e. with picture profiles turned off? I can't find this info anywhere.

[@dj_wilson]

I'm so glad I found this video! This has been extremely helpful with helping me nail down exposure for Slog3. Thank you

[@jonathangolgota]

im agree, for controlled room lighting, just using standard + plus range target for skin tones, for video product or outside room/uncontrolled lighting just use lower limit + exposure for hightlight

[@Minus20Design]

This is brilliant. Thank you for sharing your many insights and tips on using Zebras. What a lot of work!

[@dopecaptures]

Awesome Explanation !

[@ge11erth]

what zebra settings should i use if i`m not using any Picture Profile? Creative style - Neutral.

[@aghaanantyab]

What percent of the gamma output is produced if I use the standard color profile on the Sony A7 III camera? 4:19

[@Benboothfilms]

What zebra settings should I gearing towards for an outside wedding for example. It's a bright sunny day. I want my guests skin to be exposed correctly, do I just ignore everything in the background if it's all blown out? Also what if the light changes, how often do I need to change my zebra settings? Or do you commit to one person's skin tone?

[@jameiealehandro]

is slog2 better than hlg3 for sony 8 bit apsc cameras ?

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Hmm I’d say there’s little difference when using 8 bit, best bet is to choose what you’re most comfortable with 👍🏻

[@Wolf_1775]

This is incredibly useful and just helped me figure out a few things. Much appreciated!

[@AISkillBoost]

Thanks for the in-depth video! What about pp off? How would I go about exposing it with a grey card?

[@angelopoulis5825]

11.56 PHantom luts guide for skintones is 56 + - 3 , no?

[@markus_knoedel]

Thanks. Been a cinematographer for quite some time now, but still learned something.

[@guacamolekryddan47]

Writing a comment as a token of appreciation 🎉

[@matthewpcosta]

All your skin tones are going to be shifted if you stay at Iso 100 thru all those modes, they all have shifted ISOs from each other. ISO in digital cameras only shifts your gray point inyour dynamic range, hence your skin tones only, unless you cross a dual ISO.

[@gettriggered8404]

Still confused. Custom 1 what should my zebras be at and +- and Custom 2 what should it be? im running with phantom luts and slog3

[@דבקליין-סרטיםמרגשיםבשבילהחיים]

Thanks! What about shooting a rock show in Slog3.cine Gamut3 when the lighting change during the show

[@TomKaszuba]

Genius work here. Thank you very much.

[@Deep-Travel]

Excellent and very helpful video. Thanks! And thanks for the chapters.

[@authorizedauthority9725]

AMAZING!

[@RockWILK]

Damn. You put A LOT of work into this. Really helpful, thanks so much for sharing.

[@firefeethok_tui2355]

Thank you, this is very helpful for a newbie.

[@jordanbathe8772]

thank you so much! what would you use for zebras on the no PP on?

[@rgbman01]

With no PP you should be fine if you set zebras to 100+.

[@ValorMediaTN]

Helped so much thank you

[@anuraageessar_x]

Can false colour be installed on the Sony A7Cii?

[@AndreaFarnocchiaMedia]

What about no log just pp off? maybe 58+2?

[@CarlosBarronJr]

Wow! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! Your videos are the most helpful!

[@elena_berlant]

❤❤❤

[@bovinicide]

Very interesting and very helpful - thanks a bunch, Mr Harv!

[@AmirGhorbani-tb5kr]

Thank you, that was great!

[@CounterStrikeOfficialShorts]

thanks

[@oldsparkyhoovis]

My man, you said all Sony gammas then left several out.

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

That’s because there’s a huge overlap, I think I mentioned it at the beginning of the video. The only ones left out were other linear gammas that will be exposed in the same way as the linear gammas in this video. Didn’t want to just be duplicating content as that would be boring and unnecessary 👍🏻

[@choukribaziz]

If zebra helps me to expose slog2 correctly then my question is will i abandon the ND filter?

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Oh, no don’t do that! 😄

[@FotomaniaYT]

Hello, are these zebra values ​​valid for a zve10? I see that you have full frame but my camera is apsc

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Hmm I don’t see why not, the gammas should be the same so sensor size shouldn’t be a factor 👍🏻

[@iamzebra7025]

Thank you🎉

[@rubenm5138]

You say HLG is only good for HDR, what about for people using the a6400??

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Yeah it still applies really, I just don’t think HLG compares LOG. That’s just my opinion though! My video about HLG might be an interesting watch 👍🏻

[@TheAaronalden]

Wow, what a ton of work! Thank you for taking the time and sharing!

[@donttellhimpike2043]

Excellent, Harv.

[@shotbygenaro]

LEGEND! Thank you so much man! 💯💯💯🙌🏽

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

😄

[@shotbygenaro]

@@HarvVideoAudioStuff so i never had time to fully reply but again thank you bro for this! ive been looking for someone to propperly explain how to set it up and know the exact percentages! really helpful! also i know you didnt mention with Slog3 ive notice the base ISO is 800 but you can go down to 200, i did some test and when you go past below 800 the exposing goes all tips up lol like the zebras, M.M and the histogram gives false information, dont know if you noticed yourself? this is with the A7IV btw and again thank you! keep it all up man!

[@TroyBrooksPainter]

You’ve got a great eye for skin tone and color. Well done. Much appreciated.

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

Many thanks 🙏🏻

[@UpSco8]

Incredible work!! Thanks for taking the time!

[@HarvVideoAudioStuff]

My pleasure!

[@shpynda]

What zebras setting for exposure skintone for S-Cinetone?

[@grnmtnskier]

Thanks very much - extremely helpful. Just returning to video and learning how to use the a6700. Agree that the exposure meter does not appear very helpful and that is why I wanted to learn how to use zebras. With the zebras turned on, it will be so much easier to adjust the exposure with a variable ND and just adjust to eliminate all but the specular highlights. The information regarding the correct zebra setting for the S-Cinetone profile was incredibly helpful. Thanks again.

[@nostalgia_box]

Very helpful! I really want to know the lut you used at 5:55 for slog3!

[@MikeT-yy3]

I am a stills only photographer using Sony A7M4 cameras, never use video. My zebras are set to lower limit 103+ and I always shoot in RAW, Shooting mainly people I am only interested in not clipping the skin tones. Would you agree with my settings or would you change them

[@The-Filmguy]

Great information but what's with the distracting MUSAK? 😂😂😂

[@ClaesFeldt]

This was useful. You mentioned that you like S-Cinetone and i just started to use that. I suppose you then use PP11 ? Are you then using the standard settings or are you tweaking it a bit ? Thanks for the video, learnt a lot.

[@tggentil]

Thanks for the video I was looking for. If you overexposed (1.6) in Slog 3 your skin tone level should also increase right? At which level?

[@omerbulbul8185]

So can we use a grey card for correctly exposing wth whese hlg percentage? +And for highligts , should i see the zebras when i use these settings? (I am new on this point and living some issues sorry for my amateur questions, i just wanna learn)

[@ReganRoss]

I’m not sure what you’re doing. I only see zebras and a level. It doesn’t have a standard range nor does it specify lower limit. I’ve always used this to just look at highlight clipping. Where can I see these options in an A7iv?

[@bettadenu7]

So what is the zebra number for HLG 2 ?

[@sammyh9542]

It’s odd that when you used the grey card to expose, you got a darker image 🤔 Works fine for me. Unless your card is off 😅

[@Hsukhaybir]

As a photographer I know little about perfect sloshed for video .. I set my zebra at lower limit 109+ to get the best shadow quality since I shoot raw but I was wondering when I see some people in studio or videographer literally exposing until they see highlights in the faces and then take the shot .. but now I understand that they use lower values to indicate the right exposure Thank you learned something today !

[@AJCoReTV]

Not sure if I’m overthinking this as a novice, but wouldn’t the darker the skin tone mean raise the zebra higher? If your skin tone is brighter, then lower zebra?

[@Kroess]

The zebra's value is the brightness you're targeting for the specific area. As a dark skin should also be displayed darker than a light skin in the final image, you have to keep its brightness level lower. Otherwise, dark skin would look just the same (exposure wise) as light skin.