Guilty Gear Hacker Caught Using Button Reading Hack On PlayStation

[@TGIDante]

Yes, I blame the beasts. The beasts that are cheating.

[@juanortega4113]

If he’s hacking then the does he turn it off when using his guard stance, lol. He was literally waiting for you to run into his super, and you can see it a mile away. If this is hacking, I don’t think anyone on floor 6 has anything to worry about.

[@ishikami3631]

Oh man sorry to say but, you're blaming the beasts + eng dub and floor 6

[@KaptainKommissar]

eng dub is decent what kind of take is this

[@ishikami3631]

@@KaptainKommissar it was a joke

[@KaptainKommissar]

@@ishikami3631 im gooning asf

[@paladins1239]

YES SIR

[@paladins1239]

Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So, instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts

[@kjam1389]

This is actually peak content farming, good job! For anyone curious, yes there are actual hackers in GGST. It is possible to write scripts to visually analyze startups or read packets from your opponent to instantly react to your options. However, this is not what that looks like. - Actual scripts will always use 6P or IBFD against f.S/5H (source: Alter, a notorious cheater on PC who I have fought many times) - GGST cheats are not being shared, the few scripters that exist are known and vocal. If they were sharing cheats, it would be called out instantly. - If someone is really cheating, the ELO algorithm and reporting systems on Rating Update will say so on their page (even if the player tries to hide the page). - Dante is not in Celestial. If he WAS, he wouldn't be level 53. All known cheaters are because, you know, they're cheating. If you want an example of what a real cheater looks like, the 1:11 mark of my 500 hours montage on my channel has a clip of Alter IBFDing 10 attacks in a row lol

[@TGIDante]

You do know there are amateur scripters who half arse things, and smarter hackers who try to make it not look so obvious, right? In this case the script randomizes the reaction to a limited set of actions/moves. It was reactionary based upon my button presses, but randomly so.

[@TGIDante]

Also all cheaters aren't in it for the win so your celestial claim holds no weight. Some are simply there to troll.

[@TGIDante]

Furthermore I am not so desperate that I'd farm views. What I said was a legit claim.

[@kjam1389]

@@TGIDante I will believe you if you post the replay with inputs on, it should be very clear if its scripted then. I assure you though, its not lol

[@r3dsauc3.]

as a leo main, this is just floor 6 gameplay. hes allowed to get away with mashing if you let him get away with it, and a lot of those times you would mash as well. dont get too worked up, you just need to learn the matchup and simply improve. the testament leo matchup means you have to outrange him in neutral (i absolutely hate fighting testaments too).

[@TGIDante]

It has nothing to do with Leo's mashing. It's the fact that every time I pressed a button or buttons he'd do the same at the exact same moment

[@r3dsauc3.]

@@TGIDante exactly, that is the definition of mashing. you wouldn't respect his buttons trying to do a slash or heavy slash and he is going gorilla mode nonstop because he has better frame advantage. sadly, you do have to block in this game and respect his turn. either way that leo is badass, LEO MAINS KEEP WINNING

[@TGIDante]

@@r3dsauc3. It's not the same thing. For every button I pressed he had an instant reaction. It's not likely to occur outside of cheating.

[@otherman4659]

@@TGIDante this is just called mashing. Macro's, mods, and other exploits are fairly difficult to put into a console anyway. To me, it looks like you were pressing buttons at the wrong times, such as when Leo was in stance, which gives him access to easy mix ups, fast normals, and overall a lot of bs. Testament doesn't have an invincible reversal without 50% meter, so don't try to contest him until he does a minus move or tries to powerbomb. Floor 6 is volatile, VERY volatile. Expect to lose in suspicious or odd ways, cause that's just Guilty Gear.

[@TGIDante]

@@otherman4659 I wasn't mashing, and when I pressed something it was with intent. I was testing the guy the entire set to see if he was using some kind of botted system to mirror my button presses, and he was.

[@ImaniHinds]

Button reading hack?? First time I heard of this but none to less you got whooped fair & square

[@quaoaaar]

sorry to say but this is just how playing testament feels at times if you wanna contest someones pressure, you should be using 2p, since its their fastest move. i think you can do 2p 2p 6p to get them off of you? something like that. or 2k 2d 236s, that'll let you get off a stain and put a bit off distance between you i havent really fought leo much as testament, but id imagine he can very easily get away with mashing buttons if you dont know what to do about it (which usually happens to testament tbh)

[@TGIDante]

The match-up isn't the problem, and I was not playing at my best. I was testing him to see if he was reacting to my button presses. I know my attacks weren't optimal. This isn't my first Guilty Gear game.

[@kohvilence8311]

This guy is not hacking, you got beat fair and square.

[@6saska]

This has to be some kind of 4D chess troll / engagement farming attempt. If it is, ggs, you got me. With that out of the way, let’s dive into this a little bit. To me, nothing here suggests that they are cheating. On the contrary you are both making bad decisions and clear mistakes all the time. (That’s to be expected as you’re both floor 6 and you can’t really get that low if you know what you’re doing.) But what’s worse is that you didn’t even go into detail of what exactly is the cheating part here. Could be that they are a cheater but there’s nothing specific in the video or in you explanation that you could point as the ”gotcha moment”. The accusation is vague at best and honestly I don’t even get what you’re trying to say here. At minimum you need to reinforce your case with more detail and actual specific points in the video I should pay attention to. Again, could be that they are a cheater (I don’t know) but your case against them sucks (I do know). Please, never throw accusations of cheating unless you have solid proof. It can be devastating being accused of something you’ve never done.

[@TGIDante]

No troll. The player is cheating, and I explained it clearly in the pinned comment.

[@zander6259]

There’s literally no chance this player is hacking in any way. Actual cheaters don’t throw out random whiffed supers and parries, and DEFINITELY don’t get hit by test 6h that many times in a row. It just a regular player who’s trolling you for your strange way of just standing there. He never even “reacts” to the moves you throw out in any meaningful way! Def a skill issue

[@TGIDante]

Do you know who defends hackers? Hackers. I bet you use the same hacks, and don't want it getting out that it exists. You are damage control for hackers.

[@zander6259]

Lmao

[@zander6259]

We all start somewhere, you can’t be blamed for being new to the game. You just shouldn’t be quick to blame made-up boogeymen for your losses ;)

[@TGIDante]

@@zander6259 I've been playing fighting games longer than you've been alive. I started from the start. I know hacking when I encounter it.

[@TGIDante]

@@zander6259 Btw, if you're such an expert where are your gameplay videos? You've got none.

[@Say-No-To-Decaf]

Nah they definitely aren't hacking, if they were then they would of easily interrupted your 6H(?) move you were using. It's just floor 6 people throwing buttons around.

[@TGIDante]

It's not that simple. It's a matter of button presses being mirrored at exactly the same time.

[@atomicwheeze8756]

@@TGIDanteIn the business we call that one a “coinkidink”

[@TGIDante]

@@atomicwheeze8756 It's not a coincidence when it happens with every DPad, and button press.

[@atomicwheeze8756]

@@TGIDante It’s called guessing right… and button mashing. For one thing, Leo is a Rushdown, so generally his attacks come out faster than Testament’s own, who is a Zoner. This means in mashing situations where both sides are at no disadvantage he’ll hit sooner that Testament at close to close-mid range. Also, you didn’t even show his button inputs! You do realize you can make replays show player and opponent inputs through the match, right? You either didn’t know or left it out on purpose, which doesn’t support your argument either way

[@atomicwheeze8756]

@@TGIDante I thank you for deleting my comment as well, very telling your stance on the matter.

[@nuggetsschumaker4371]

I think in the first matches he noticed how he was owning you too hard and decided to play it down to let you have some fun too. That would explain how he goes reactionless in several parts of the video more to the end. you have a tendency to use ground red skull when too far instead of the quick down mouth thing, and he picked on that, countering you by just jumping towards you and smashing. Multiple times when he has his back turned, he baited you into attacking when you clearly could have run him down and throw, this would avoid his counter and give a good punish. You fell for each and every of his baits. I don't know how he does the special so fast tho, he doesn't even seem to move when doing the command, can be a macro or just a really good hand speed. If possible, show the replay with the buttons pressed to better verify this.

[@TGIDante]

You obviously don't knw the history of fighting game hacks

[@zeroevade]

Bruh this is sad. :| Come on you have to know deep down this guy isn't hacking and you guys just are low level players. I mean seriously lol.

[@TGIDante]

Dude's hacking or using a trainer/Cronus. Guaranteed

[@zeroevade]

@@TGIDante bruh come on lol. There's a lot of experienced players and we're not trying to gaslight ya here. Doesn't it seem possible to you you're dealing with some Dunning-Kruger Effect? Or you're a little bit Schizo... I hope that's not the issue y'know D:? Which you know that is a super normal thing that does happen to people >.>. Anyways hope for the best, hopefully you can resolve your inner demons whatever they may be.

[@barrin84]

If this is a hack then why not show the video with the replays instead that show the button data? Would show quite a bit for the audience there I would say. Otherwise, looks like every other Leo player out there in testing out reaction times while also getting familiar with the character. And if it IS a hack, then just gotta be able to deal with the likes of an AI like Boss Nago, which overtime gets very predictable.

[@zonnas6758]

I'm sorry but you are just not that great at this game. Both of yall are just flailing around and nobody is "hacking". By all means keep playing and having fun, but don't be calling random hacks cuzz you got smoked.

[@TGIDante]

Damage control. Hackers exist. Tell Arc System Works for me.

[@TGIDante]

Btw, what's with all these no video accounts defending the hacker? Seems suss to me. Like damage control.

[@matthewlong7547]

@@TGIDante Most accounts don't post videos

[@TGIDante]

@@matthewlong7547 Yes, they do. The only channels that don't are the ones who like to target videos for trolling, or harassment. There are also bot accounts used to fake interactions for number sake. Personally, the accounts chiming in here, with their lack of Guilty Gear gameplay, shows that they are not a part of the Guilty Gear scene, and are likely either defending the hacker, doing damage control for Arc System Works, or are incapable of giving legit feedback due to a lack of experience.

[@TGIDante]

@@matthewlong7547 Did you notice a common theme with all the comments directed at me? They were to debunk my claims & used the same points.

[@TGIDante]

This is not clickbait, I am not gaming the audience for views. That being said your opinions will not change my mind. The dude was hacking, regardless of how hard you try to make your comrade hacker seem innocent.

[@copycatbacon1330]

Alright. I don't comment on videos much. But this is ridiculous. Hacks? More like skill issue. This is a floor 6 match and you can tell. If you think this is hacks. Wait till you get too celestial. I'm sure you'll say everyone's cheating there. But doubt youll make it anytime soon seeing this gameplay.

[@gungoscrump5197]

you didn't even show inputs on screen since how are we supposed to now that there is a button reading hack cause we just see you getting counter hit every now and then when you shouldn't even be pressing buttons in the first place against backturned stance. If you still believe they are hacking please leave timestamps at least, since it isn't clear when they are using these "hacks". You also say that it is the last match which is suspicious but it just looks like low level gameplay to me. I'm sorry to say but this person isn't hacking and with many others saying so as well I'm guessing you have also realized yourself that this person is in fact just a regular player who caught you pressing buttons with frametraps and just some unlucky timing. Just remember people in these comments are likely higher floor so remember these players know what they are talking about

[@paladins1239]

skill issue

[@TGIDante]

cheating issue

[@paulbowler5345]

Do you get lots of issues like this in thisx game? Shame, as it looks a cool beat em up, I really like the snime style of the characters

[@TGIDante]

It happens sometimes in fighting games, especially fighting games with crossplay, and without proper player banning options.

[@paulbowler5345]

@thegaminginferno It must be annoying when it happens, hopefully it's not too often. Must spoil the game when it does.

[@TGIDante]

@@paulbowler5345 It is annoying, and completely ruins the online experience. At this point the game is lost to hackers. There is no fair competition online.

[@paulbowler5345]

@thegaminginferno Its good that you highlight these issues.

[@TGIDante]

@@paulbowler5345 It would be good if it didn't fall on deaf ears.

[@TGIDante]

This has become a shameful bot farm. I apologize to my regular viewers for engaging in a pointless debate with KZbin bots, especially if it got you interested in this video outside of the intended purpose.

[@Say-No-To-Decaf]

Nah no one here is a bot, the Leo wasn't hacking, you're just floor 6

[@paladins1239]

get good bro

[@TGIDante]

@@paladins1239 Good? I'm the best. Get best bruh

[@TGIDante]

@@Say-No-To-Decaf Yes, there are definitely bot accounts here. Sorry to break that to you, but it's fact. Also Leo was hacking. Floor 6 has nothing to do with it. I've been on floor 8 before.

[@Say-No-To-Decaf]

@@TGIDante Can't tell if trolling for a laugh (in which case this was a pretty good one), or if you're just blaming the beasts.

[@HOKUTONOTRASGU]

Cronux max return ....

[@TGIDante]

Probably so

[@throwaway1066]

Seems like ur trolling by your other comments, but this guy was not hacking. Humans can react to things too sometimes, if you can believe it.

[@TGIDante]

Dude, damage control is really out to make me look like a liar. Try harder.

[@TGIDante]

Ran into this a few times in a row yesterday against PlayStation & PC players. In the first few matches things will look normal, but it's the last match in which my suspicions were validated. What you do not see is that every time I pressed any button Dru would react at the same moment. So in the final match I put my theory to the test pressing nothing, and only advancing and attacking quick enough afterwards to take advantage of the stationary Leo. It's basically a reactionary button press reading hack. If you press anything the hacker's character will react that precise moment. Guilty Gear Online is DEAD. It's not worth playing anymore.

[@atomicwheeze8756]

I’m so sorry to tell you this bro but you kinda just suck at the game 🙏 Best of luck in the dojo, I have faith you can enhance your gameplay! Learning about bursting at moments of critical vulnerability and special canceling your normal moves are great places to start.

[@bhglghb]

Can you explain 6:13-6:17 when you walked up slowly and used your slowest normal three times in a row and he just stood there doing nothing getting hit by it? Why didn't the cheats detect that you had pressed a button and cause him to react?