Grappler Mains Are Smarter Than You Think...

[@typhoonbh]

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[@slorty4494]

Grappler main here, we're actually really stupid. You should always press buttons on wakeup against grapplers. We won't punish you.

[@typhoonbh]

Never beating the glue allegations

[@crumpuscrump]

I think I'll jump this time :)

[@robo_guy_2879]

@@crumpuscrumpHEAVENL-

[@TyRiders2]

@@crumpuscrump BACK BREAKER!! MEGATON PRESS!!!

[@srsacowea3494]

@@robo_guy_2879dayum..

[@wweis6772]

Sol Badguy is a grappler Sol Badguy is a grappler Sol Badguy is a grappler Sol Badguy is a grappler Sol Badguy is a grappler

[@jjwrx8]

Ky is actually the best grappler.

[@MelodySteel]

Happy Choa-

[@baines803]

Belial is a grappler

[@philiphunt-bull5817]

@jjwrx8 As a Ky main, can confirm

[@prachetasnayse9709]

Wild throw meme ❤

[@aymanalcahosge7859]

I do main Potemkin in strive and tbh i love it when people say i am a glue eater, the image of a guy putting many hours in just labbing losing to a guy who eats glue sounds very funny to me, and i think that this is what other grapplers think as well, i am noticing that the nick name "glue eater" is mostly used by the grappler them selfs, but i am a guy who dose not step a foot in twitter so who knows maybe i am wrong

[@typhoonbh]

True

[@justyeet2775]

Not only grappler players, people I play with also get on the joke and call me a glue eater because its funny

[@m4yr4i]

Grapplers mains calling themselves Glue Eaters is a very Grappler main thing to do

[@SadToffee]

I like the glitter elmers cuz it's spicy

[@robo_guy_2879]

@@SadToffeethe glitter glue is the fancy stuff

[@ardidsonriente2223]

Gappler invest 3\4 of the match patiently advancing to get where I am while masterfully defending to not die , then outbrains me two times in a row so I make a mistake huge enough to connect the high execution grapple when I have 45% more life than him, and kills me with less than 5% of their life. Rushdown just neutral skips then press buttons with plus frames without pause until one randomly pierces, force me into the corner and kills me without ever taking any risk or leaving the flowchart. Shoto does the same as the gorilla, just with more fireballs and invuln defending every time. Grapplers NO DOUBT need more brain to just exist. Winning agdinst a good grappler is a true badge of honor. Losing against a good grapler is an incredible fun ride. I don't play grapplers, but for sure love fighting them.

[@typhoonbh]

Well said

[@josh0884]

I don't like grapplers, *I FEAR THEM* As a guy who, for some reason, always chooses the character with low health/low defense, I really fear them, they are always watching you, getting close to you, then, all of a sudden, you lose 35%-70% from a command grab :(

[@BlackHero20]

I feel you so much. Pixie character main for life ❤. And also help me im getting clipped

[@MrStupidfresh1]

Heheheh… waldstein and his double circles

[@owencmyk]

It's still so crazy to me that Tekken characters almost always have over 100 moves. On a more on-topic note: I've always found Bullet from Blazblue super interesting as she's a grappler who combos you, but dashing on a Dualsense joystick in Centralfiction is so clunky that I never bothered to get into the game. (and D-pad makes special inputs a lot harder so I opt not to use that usually)

[@Halfwit_658]

@@owencmyk dude...tager sounds perfect for you

[@owencmyk]

@@Halfwit_658 I tried tager, but I prefer faster paced combo heavy characters. It's not really that I don't want to dash, more that I want to dash but don't like the input

[@frumpsterfire]

tekken doods have like 100+ moves but only 20-50 moves (some less(f u drag)) are worth remembering

[@owencmyk]

@@frumpsterfire Yeah, honestly even that's still a lot tho. I only use like... a few of Giovanna's specials, and she already has a short movelist. I really like the idea of having a lot of moves tho, it lets you find niche uses for them and express yourself a lot

[@TheXell]

And then there's Claudio.

[@justyeet2775]

Of course we dont eat glue... We drink paint, duh!

[@typhoonbh]

exactly

[@ultracrazed2215]

I fully understand why people hate grapplers, but after you mindgame someone into jumping on wake-up and you hard read it with an anti-air throw for the first time, how do you NOT get hooked on the archetype?

[@CharellDavis-x4z]

Having a grappler walk you down the stage actually is kinda scary… Got me feeling pressed in a Video Game.

[@daniberriro]

Crazy how Zangief didn't appeared on the video.

[@frank8917]

Because there was too much muscle to put him in the video

[@rob0893]

King player here, and the happiest a man can be is watching someone break down when they realize how much damage the RDC or King's Bridge is. The slow realization that they lost half of their life because they called tails.

[@giantlactismid5704]

@@rob0893 i feel you bro (my friends hate me)

[@Jjnq5]

brother we KNOW you're a grappler main, it shows until you pick up Guile

[@Gilbot9000]

Grapplers are true kings, queens, and themperors. Our skillset isn't "ordinary" by most concepts but it's valid and absolutely as worthwhile as anything else!

[@davidgonzales7259]

5:49 okay okay senior typhoon

[@typhoonbh]

Had to at least not completely butcher it

[@remuvs]

I wouldn’t necessarily say a grappler becomes more intelligent because they passed an execution barrier with Kara Cancels. I play Sol, by all means I am still a complete dunce despite knowing how to 6S Kara and tK H-VV for big Sol bombos. Execution just comes down to practice

[@k.o.d752]

Clark main here, I loved grapplers since I was a kid in the arcades, the cool animations and damage, and when they are well done they can even be fun to play against, it's like if both players do they homework and read each other until one goes down.

[@normanalhakim00]

Grapplers, despite their menacing demeanor, are actually, in my opinion, the 'hype-man' characters. Especially in high levels, seeing grapplers hit a command grab or a cool combo from it fills people with excitement

[@liammaloney13]

RIP Pot Kara

[@mrhalfsaid1389]

I find that grapplers are just the funny character of the game, powerful, beefy, always used by glue eaters and just in general quite refreshing from the standard. The only problem with them is that they and hyper rush down characters are some of the most potentially toxic character designs that you can make in a fighting game if you do them wrong, and even then they can cause some problems in that regard

[@EndanDrachon]

I main certain characters rather than one hard archetype and I will say I generally have to think 2x as hard when playing my grappler mains than my shoto mains, and 3x as hard then when I'm playing my rushdown mains. Honestly the only exception would be Rashid, but I honestly think of him closer to a Setplay character than a shoto or rushdown.

[@henrybitencourt]

Small correction here: there are no such things as "grapplers" in platform fighters the closest we get is heavy weights and the fast "grapplers" are bait and punish is due to the fact that every characters in each game Has the amazing grab game so If we apply that then all characters in all platfrom fighters would be grapplers Edit: also tezca is more rushdown focused

[@gfxb3177]

@@henrybitencourt we have donkey kong in melee

[@henrybitencourt]

@@gfxb3177 we have Fox shiek marth Falco Falcon basically everyone including the unviable garbage such as ness Zelda bowser and Kirby grabs is super important in their punish and neutral game tho you're right donkey Kong is the closest thing we have to a grappler

[@frank8917]

Like Superman and Jason in Multiversus?

[@henrybitencourt]

​@@frank8917 jake Taz samurai Jack and agent Smith

[@frank8917]

@@henrybitencourt i wouldnt call them grapplers

[@Xenohaste]

King i don't fear King. Wolf on the other hand terrifies me. A part of me dies every time i hear him yell BURNING HAMMER!

[@davidvulakh744]

If any grappler shows the best embodiment of what the players are like, it’s Tager from Blazblue.

[@ReneGade405]

As a aba player I kinda get it working around such limitations to get a sweet reward is so satisfying and you feel like a genius when things go your way

[@purplechemillion609]

I main grapplers in some of my fighting games and i love when people try to say grapplers are easy and i'm just like "oh my sweet summer child.😂

[@HELLRAISER02]

Hey uh makoto got 7th, she a grappler :) I love grapplers solely cuz BIG SLAMS, and making people scared as hell and kill them for blocking :) Also dont forget armor king, the rare footsies armor king, or ice climbers, the only puppeteer grappler i know of

[@typhoonbh]

True, although I’ve seen some people argue otherwise

[@RookyCarrot]

I honestly think a lot of the hate comes from the result of what grapplers can do. When you have never played a grappler and dont understand the struggles they have, and just see a dude hit 1 special move that will often time do almost a super attacks worth of damage, it can feel frustrating. (even tho most of the time those same people will hit 1 button into a 40 hit combo that will do the same amount of damage). I think it mostly just comes from a feeling of them feeling cheated, like they have to work so hard to be optimal with their damage, where grapplers dont. When in reality, were playing a different game. Usually a tougher one depending on the franchise and the matchup, since grapplers typically have the worst movement and frame data, they cant do what other characters do. Take potemkin for example, he cant run, has no airdash and has the slowest walkspeed in the game. Yes he has 3 different options to close distance (hammerfall, Heat tackle, wild rush) but these are often incredibly risky and unsafe and you have to use them on either a knockdown or spend meter to make them safe. Grapplers having to struggle with things other players dont often even have to think about is why there is such a disconnect, all they see is 1 special into 20-40% and see it as "braindead".

[@IzayoinkSaccuy]

as a grappler main the smartest thing i did is walk forward and command grab and it worked everytimes

[@blackowlgamer5078]

4:03 This video aged like milk... unfortunately

[@typhoonbh]

Damn this is how I find out the removed Kara canceling

[@freljodiandao882]

A good grappler is terrifying. I only play couch vs with my brother in strive, and I can confirm, that playing a grappler effectively requires a lot out of a person. The amount of mind fuckery he does to get me to fall into a trap is insane.

[@lite3667]

i am a grappler main and have barely touched anything else in fighting games. i had a friend who i would always play tekken with. he was a hardcore jin amin while i played armor king (king in T8) and he would destroy me. we decided to play some sf6 for a change of pace and beat his juri with my zangief. after a few rounds he straight up said "did you win or your character?". i think that grapplers COULD be very difficult to play depending on what grappler you play. if you play stuff like dnf duel then not so much. if you play king or zangief in tekken/streetfighter however, i would say that there can be some skill involved especially in higher ranks. i view grappler characters as noob stompers that have a easy time with newer players but struggle hard against decent to good players. the skillfloor is very different from grappler to grappler. but nomatter how much yapping i am doing i think we can all agree why we play grapplers: its just so fucking sick to throw your opponent around.

[@AGXferal]

They removed kara canceling for Potemkin sorry guys :(

[@nut1629]

4:26 I know it was likely said for simplicity sake but back mega fist is plus and very safe the issue is it well, goes backward, kara canceling it allows it to go slightly forward

[@typhoonbh]

Yes I should have explained more

[@jaumemarce6464]

I was a Potemkin main when I first started Gilty Gear Strive, and I can tell you for sure that playing pot in a level above 4th floor (that it's quite a low floor btw) you need more stuff that just spam back megafist and grabs, however, being a bad player myself and currently a Bridget main (low dmg and low hp) I do understand why some people hate grapplers and calls them glue eaters from the outside it looks like all they are doing is suck at the game and speedrun to losing the match until you make only one mistake and now you are the one that will be defeated. I still love grapplers though, and I think more people would if they took the time to learn and understand how they are played.

[@dinonuggets7148]

Every single time I see king, I see a new move being used. Never seen half his shit even after going through his entire move list several times

[@LoneRatatouille]

A grab in a game with out a blocking system is just a contextual animation

[@HELLRAISER02]

How id go about grapplers would be to give em decejt whiff punishment or lots of utility off grabs, side switching, oki, meter drain, counter hit launcher, punish counter launcher, just ways to add depth to em while still revolving around grabs

[@kingofgrunder5494]

@@HELLRAISER02 Solomon Grundy

[@limelaminum2935]

@@HELLRAISER02 i always enjoyed how different grapplers put their spin on the archetype, but my favorite version has to be with beowulf in skullgirls

[@the_icel0rd247]

Fun fact! Back mega fist is not unsafe on block, thats forwards mega fist youre thinking of. Back mega fist is normally +2 on block, becoming less advantageous and going to 0 on block if kara cancelled

[@typhoonbh]

Yeah I mixed them up by accident

[@TheJakeJackson]

King's movelist looks oversized because each part of his many chain grabs gets its own entry. He's otherwise very straightforward to play in neutral. He's super unga bunga too, with a ridiculous neutral skip in ffn2, an i13 mid CH launcher, and panic buttons like his absurd b3. 3D games in general have a hilarious time with grapplers. Soulcalibur 3 had the bonus character Arthur, who could end any of his juggles with air throws like 66A+B and 8B+K, which, in a game that uses directional influence to let you escape combos, guarantees a lot of damage. He could also approach with a ducking, mid, guard breaking, launching full screen charge because screw you he's coming. And his ground command grabs hurt too. Unbreakable *and* unblockable? Yes please. Then Virtua Fighter has Goh, who regularly get talked about as a top tier because he alone can reverse any throw on reaction into his own throws (which, of course, hurt more). Negating strike throw is... strong. They"re all in all a completely different breed from 2D grapplers. So here's to Marduk in Tekken 8! 🍻

[@arthurvianna2042]

Depending on the game, I can swing from one side to the other. In tekken, when I see a good king that hits me with some grab I've never seen before and I get outplayed I respect it, but if its a character like zangief or Potemkin, unless they are going for Kara cancels or other techs, they just kinda only go for grabs, and that's when I call them a glue eater

[@sagenojutsu1923]

As a grappled main the reason I call myself a glue eater is because I do the same defence everyone else do we except they need to correct guess over and over I only need to once.

[@kaneicosasrandom8630]

As a main grappler, I can tell you that there are two types of grappler haters. The "hater" who usually just hates and complains about the meme. He doesn't mean it. He is NOT a main grappler and most likely genuinely suffers against them but understands the archetype. And the real hater who is most likely a main rushdown and goes online to vent after being command grabbed three times in a row. Is unable to recognize how to fight a grappler and instead of asking to themselves what they are doing wrong decides to hate the archetype. Is very serious but using the terminology that is now a meme because truly believes that everyone on the internet really hates grapplers because hating grapplers must be a universal truth.

[@zhaoyun255]

AC+ Pot is SOMETHING ELSE. Yes, you still have to learn FRC and charge motion. However, once you did, it's your funeral when you even tried to block him. Vacuum 2S>HFB was ZERO ON BLOCK. Pot Bustour has FRC point and you can even do meterless combo in the corner. Don't get me started on Heat Knuckle (First half) and Slidehead.

[@Crisisadvantage]

What’s your favorite paint to have as a snack

[@typhoonbh]

Lead paint

[@CoolkiddVids]

Rushdown Revolt Urdah being example #1 for PFGs is peak, bless

[@Ciega_Confidencia]

I’m still mad they didn’t add King as a Tezca Tekken Crossover skin in brawlhalla

[@rylanaltman9889]

4:23 bmf is plus on block bossman kbmf is minus but still safe

[@typhoonbh]

ah my bad I inverted it

[@Ze_hits_180s]

BRAWLHALLA MENTIONED BABY OUR GAME IS A REAL GAME💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mbfun9298]

No... no we are not...

[@Salty_Neko]

Grappler main here(especially king and Potemkin). I like to use my brain most of the time, but I also accept being called a Glue Huffer, it just gives me a funny mental image

[@chip9261]

got a love hate relationship with grappler mains

[@typhoonbh]

Don’t we all

[@cosmic5665]

I main gief and i hate some gief mains ngl, some are laggy and rage quit frequently

[@levisamom5069]

As a grappler main... Here's a hug

[@lilysmith2471]

Sad Waldstein didn't get mentioned. He's the greatest grappler of them all

[@Dream3ater]

As someone who mains Android 16 I love grapplers

[@codynoble1059]

I play mainly shotos and a side of grapplers , and As a professional red crayon devouring champion, I love playing grapplers . My favorite grapplers are easily Shermie ( kof ) and potemkin. Idc about playing with logic , When it comes to grapplers, I huff 24/7 gallons of glue

[@Gothaman1]

As a modern zangief, i love vibe checking folks

[@sitruunamehu]

The many times I've been hit by shining wizard into shining wizard into shining wizard and so on is painful but honestly I'm at fault for not breaking it.

[@leed_letter_o]

RAAHHHHH RUSHDOWN REVOLT MENTIONED WOOOOOOOOO

[@BigBadDragon777]

I was once a grappler main. Kinda missed playing them fighting games but peoplr nowadays are to serious and whrn I just select King out of bias and habit, I was literally pulled out of the arcade, being warned that "Tekken is for the more serious...", So Im glad youre giving grappler mains a share of the spotlight. Yes, this actually happened, and yes, this experience made me realize I cant try playing fighting games anymore.

[@typhoonbh]

You got pulled from an arcade for playing king??? That’s crazy

[@BigBadDragon777]

@@typhoonbh Yeah, thats how it is, at least in my experience.

[@wazzledog1007]

I'm generally a big fan of grapplers. I rarely main a grappler, but I always spend some time with them fooling around. I think a lot of modern grapplers give players the tools to make grapplers feel op, but less outright broken buttons that mean the rest of the character needs to be trash.

[@azumopowah]

I'm a Makoto main and I do eat glue. You can't have any, it's mine.

[@z1u512]

Grappler mains after receiving 1% of the hate zoners receive:

[@TheJakeJackson]

Talking about "speed grapplers" over footage of Manon, the SF6 character with the slowest and shortest drive rush in the game, was heartbreaking 💔

[@typhoonbh]

Yes that’s true but in terms of normal walk/dash speed & distance she’s faster than the other grapplers. Her back dash is also covers the most distance in the game. (the only stats that get beat are her forward dash speed by 1 point and her drive rush as you mentioned)

[@TheJakeJackson]

@@typhoonbh And that's the most important thing for her to get in. You ask someone like FilthyanimalsFGC and he'll tell you she's basically not even in the right game.

[@TheJakeJackson]

And what do you mean by "beaten by one point"? I just glanced quickly at the ranges and out of the first six characters I checked, five have a longer forward dash. One of them by almost 30% more

[@TheJakeJackson]

Do you mean frames? I see here two frames faster than hers, and then 3. She's not a very mobile character without taking risks and it sucks.

[@bum116]

Look at Snake eyez, Frankentank, and Demondan13. They know how to use Potemkin's, Zangief's, and Braum's tools right.

[@Ox9707]

Grapplers bring the hype every time. I have no shame in my love for them

[@qTRA]

finding out typhoon is a grappler main is equivalent to kids finding out santa isn't real (this is a joke) will always love the vids

[@Tsolocup118]

Hayao's caked up

[@cough8389]

i think you should look at grapplers from games like kof where they are top tier or very solid, but don’t feel overwhelmingly overpowered (in my opinion). i play both shermie and clark and both seem solid without much downside, unlike typical grapplers like from the sf series

[@freshmadgod]

No one talking about the guy doing the splits in the beginning?

[@tcwentertainment]

6:50 Yes. I bought all 200 so im usin 200. Its not about thr win , its about sending a message

[@joshuasinning8819]

May I have the collective grappler brain cell now? I wanna play hugo

[@felman87]

Watching Theory's new video about the frame perfect trick in SF4 will help you appreciate Grapplers more since he goes into Kara more indepth.

[@typhoonbh]

True

[@0226411771]

Always love seeing banger videos made by fellow Potemkin enjoyers.

[@Dante19190]

no way bro uploaded

[@typhoonbh]

Ikr

[@yaboikopi]

i love grabbing everyone as gigas

[@demetripresley7329]

Using potemkin as an example of how little grapplers have is like using Bill Gates as an example for the homeless population

[@EnbyAbyss]

I don't play many fighting games but one of my favorites is Your Only Move Is Hustle, and Robot, the game's grappler, is just perfect for me. He's got tools for almost everything, is relatively fast, and has both great single hit damage and long lasting combos. Despite all that he's actually pretty mid by the standards of that game's balance, yet people still constantly quit out against me the moment I land a single hit and that makes me sad :(

[@typhoonbh]

I talked about that game in a previous video, my favourite is the robot too

[@chistopherchavez5322]

Beowulf from skull girls is the best grappler with a unique hype mechanic that only he has

[@Ghostscar]

And this is why I can't be a grappler. I'm dumb as a door, and fighting games always makes me very angry.

[@Korosivv]

King is a fair and balanced character and he needs more moves and also I want a new season of Tiger Mask

[@kumagaki1644]

I love hayao's pose dude lmao

[@preBLANK]

I was trying kof for the first time with kof 13 and first time in my life I understood how graplers are fun.(I was playing vice)

[@Sukarettoroz]

No, im not. my brain yells command grab i wiff and get railed and do it again, no thought behind it. Just spd or rdc don't even think about just do it

[@Sukarettoroz]

We gotta address the geif tho you can't mention grapplers without the man who made spd spd

[@evolancer211]

Hugo's "useless" drop kick!! I mean it's pretty obvious grapplers are more intricate than made out to be. I thought it was common sense, but you making this video process common sense is packing in this world

[@Zel-Veraan]

Should have dropped my comment on here and not the community post.

[@typhoonbh]

Well at least you did now

[@YSEricbanana]

I'll have you know, typhoon smells amazing

[@KAHJIRAH]

Back mega fist is +5?

[@typhoonbh]

I mispoke

[@mastahmaxtah9339]

I feel like some grapplers are more braindead than others. I main Alpha 2 Zangief and I can't deny that it feels like I only need one brain cell to play him there, especially with magic grab

[@Coswalker27]

I just play the rule of cool. I main king in tekken just due the fact i think hes cool. I dont have a option on any character archetype due to the fact i play all of them. At some point.

[@typhoonbh]

True

[@kendrickdials7852]

I play heavy characters but they tend to have few grabs like bedman or goldlewis.

[@cj8494]

Potemkin part aged very poorly they dumbed him down so hard

[@invertebrado]

My perspective as a grapple main is that I really don't think, sorry but I am stereotype. That glue was just looking too damn tasty for me to pass.

[@bertojo]

King main here. I'm not smart, you should always use unsafe powercrushes against me, my brain won't be able to process it and punish you with a throw.

[@3_14pie]

tbh that's what I think of bulky rushdown players, but that's probably because I'm a zoner main lol

[@sirchristian104]

What the freak is happening at 0:55

[@tcwentertainment]

Grappler main here , im trash so my friends dont really mind playing em. I play Alex(SF3 TS) , King(Tekken) , Clark in KOF, Inceneroar(Smash). Id like to think i get cool points since i go for cool drip based combos

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

As of today the Potemkin section is no longer valid. 😂 No kara 4 you!

[@typhoonbh]

:(

[@krizpy8005]

Once in a lifetime typhoon upload 😂

[@typhoonbh]

I know right

[@TheAlex010]

4:26 no back mega fist is plus on block. Not close to "very unsafe" ???

[@typhoonbh]

I was thinking of forward mega fist yeah that was a mistake

[@angeldust117]

I do main grapplers, I am like the knockoff version of Snake Eyez, I have been maining grapplers since 1995 with Zangief on SF2, (I am currently 31 year) like fr, if it aint grappler I dont main it and of course I can learn a couple character for each game but my main will always be a grappler and I will continue to main them for as long as play FGs. and I just wanna say, Iron Tager is the most fun grappler I have ever played in my entire life.

[@typhoonbh]

@@angeldust117 damn that’s dedication right there

[@brentacomoose]

@@angeldust117 Iron Tager is who got me into grapplers. Been chasing that high ever since.