Guitar Wireless Systems Explained By A Pro Tech [Digital, Analogue, Pros & Cons]

[@michaelcurtin508]

Saw the thumbnail, thought this isn't an episode for me, no interest in wireless for my setup. Turned out to be a fascinating and thoroughly entertaining watch!

[@WatchesnguitarsDK]

My experience exactly! Really interesting and entertaining!

[@justinrucker7059]

Television Engineer here. In the US most TV stations are in the UHF band. Which in the US is Channel 14 to 36. This includes wireless Microphones for reporters. So anyone that operates in the field is supposed to have a sheet that shows what frequenies are supposed to be available in the area. That being said if you have some UHF wireless gear its good to see what the tv stations in the area are transmitting in as the are at up too 1megawatt of power and absolutely will interfere with you. Also keep in mind that 2.4ghz units have to compete with WiFi Because that's the wifi range for consumer routers that don't have 5G. Also interesting is that some hospitals use wireless telemetry boxes for heart monitoring in the UHF range so you may be giving nurses a panic if you are doing a hospital benefit or playing next door. Thanks for doing this show! This has probably been an "ignorance is bliss" subject for a long time but it really does add a whole level of complexity.

[@MartinMCade]

And with changing regulations and re-allocations of the RF spectrum, some wireless units have become obsolete and illegal to use. Although I have never seen anyone going around scanning for illicit wireless microphones and guitar units.

[@andsoistopped]

At a festival there’s someone that looks after the frequencies. To save you asking that person is always called Kenneth. 😉

[@timhopkins3810]

Ah yes, he wore a violent green shirt shouting that irony was the shackles of youth 😉 Classic track!

[@andsoistopped]

@@timhopkins3810 indeed.

[@isimongardner]

Yes, very good.

[@Superstacco]

Har de har

[@tomcoryell]

Brilliant!

[@sixpots]

Hearing from someone at the top of their game, doing things the rest of us don't understand so well that we don't even know said things are a thing- very cool!

[@worshiptutorials]

Saw the title and thought, “if they don’t refer to this as a ‘radio unit’, it’ll be a huge miss” And it was literally the FIRST thing 😂😂👏🏻

[@stevenrothery806]

The Shure GLXD16+ dual band works well for me. It's on the pedalboard so short cable runs, transparent, no noticeable latency and I've used it's predecessor the GLXD on stages around the world for the last eight years without a problem.

[@rayganadamson2005]

I recently switched to this system and I absolutely love it. I don’t play a ton of gigs, but am a church musician, it’s overkill for what I do but I don’t have to worry about all the other wireless channels this way.

[@norbertplaysguitar7244]

Such a good show. As a musician who played bigger festivals without having a own tech with us on stage I can’t stress enough how we would appreciate being able to hire a stage tech. Had an issue with my wireless system at Open Flair this year and it’s so hard troubleshooting stuff while performing. Techs are life savers! 😊

[@J_B72]

What a lovely guy is Richard!

[@jamespalavin5052]

Great show. Lots of fun. Great to see outside of the TPS studio. I do have an issue with "the cheap amazon....we know they're no good." I use them playing alone, in my studio, rolling around the room on my wheeled chair. Works great, sounds great, no pack attached to me, and I'm not running over the cord.

[@MaTTheWish]

Which brand? 2.4? I'm looking for some cheap Amazon too.

[@jamespalavin5052]

@@MaTTheWish NUX C-5RC (5.8 GHz). I pay a little more to get the ones with the charging case. I have two set-ups so I also have a 2.4.

[@MaTTheWish]

@@jamespalavin5052 Nice .. charging case Is a must.

[@antonyedwardson9900]

Agree, I have a Lekato set on 2.4Ghz that I use at church, I don’t move far and the only ‘competition’ is with the wireless mics but I’ve never had an issue. Doesn’t stop me from having a guitar cable on the floor next to the pedalboard just in case though!

[@floridaman7079]

This is exactly how Matt Bellamy gets around running around a massive stage whilst using a fuzz factory and a wireless, build it into the guitar!

[@dustinthiessen]

Thank god for Richard! I think he did a really good job of making this stuff understandable for the guitar player. I'm a touring audio engineer, so I deal with wireless all the time, and was honestly prepared to have to make a bunch of corrections, but Richard nailed it 👍🏼

[@davedavem]

That Prodigy story got my heart going!

[@sambrenton]

The stuff about frequency allocation at festivals and every venue on a tour is absolutely fascinating

[@ProjectMusicSW]

The Line 6 Units are pretty great for the price point. Myself (and my bandmates) have ended up running outside a couple of venues and playing in the heat of battle with the G30 and had no drop outs. Back when our live show was chaotic. Great fun! - Conan

[@GazP23]

What an episode! I really wasn’t expecting there would be much in this one for me, but it was absolutely fascinating. Richard was such a brilliant choice of guest to explain all that festival frequency headache!! Great episode guys.

[@andrewr2650]

The number frequently referenced for being able to hear latency is 30 ms But that testing was done using video and delaying the audio until the viewer could tell the audio is out of sync with the video. Guitar playing is different because you fell and then hear later, I think it varies by person how much delay is noticeable in that case. One interesting thing from the video testing, you can delay the audio up to 30 MS and the brain will compensate. If on the other hand the video is delayed behind the audio. It’s noticeable with just 1 or 2 ms of video delay. It’s because light travels faster than sound so we are conditioned to seeing people talk before we hear the sound.

[@Piplodocus]

I'm an RF Engineer, but don't do too much to do with wireless audio like this, so this was one of the most fascinating episodes in ages, finding out about how people actually schedule those channel frequencies, licensed or not, and how they get shared.

[@robertiboy7315]

Great show! 👌🏻 so informative and entertaining, and hats off to Richard 👍🏻, such a knowledgeable/ genius tech. When Dan straps on the fuzz and begins to run around the room was hilarious. Thanks TPS 🎸👍🏻

[@coldacre]

best episode of TPS in ages. enjoyed this one immensely. Dan with the taped on FuzzFace is gold 😆

[@scottakam]

Thanks for taking a relatively dry subject and making it interesting! Fuzz pedals are such a simple circuit, I'm surprised there aren't more "strap" versions out there.

[@stelioskmusic]

Best comment ever after saying how everyone is switching to digital modellers: The only way you can fix that (referring to the latency), is to take out the Quad Cortex or the Kemper and put analog pedals in…. Thank you! Great channel guys. 🙏

[@cleftturnip7774]

Hi Tps. I'm doing my first paid gig on the 9th of November. Thank for all the advice over the years. You've helped me alot. I'm 44

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yes! Wishing you all the best. Enjoy!

[@giovannielixir]

An interesting point about latency is that the sound takes about 3 ms per meter. It isnt much on small stages but on bigger ones, if you are at 4 or 5 meters+ from your amp it is really noticeable. In those conditions is theoretically possible to have less latency with an in ear than just hearing the amp.

[@hoboroadie4623]

That makes me wonder if there's a use for a portable monitor that attaches to the guitar strap...

[@HermelJaworski]

yes, that's why in ears are so convenient!

[@guitargrandpa282]

Very interesting show. Nice to expand to a topic most of us didn't even know would be of interest.

[@gordonrankin3995]

With my work with Barenaked Ladies they put packs on the strap of each guitar so they can set the level of each guitar. They use a rather expensive Shure system. They select the guitar in use at TECHs setup (stage right) and it goes into the pedal switcher which is completely remote with a remote selector on stage. Some of the new systems are digital which then use a protocol and they have an end to end link kind of like WIFI. But of course the guitar pack has to do analog pre into an ADC into a processor with RF out and then RF in processor-DAC--->Compandor out. The older analog stuff may sound a bit better but as discussed can have too many problems in some vendors.

[@geover2]

You work with the Barenaked Ladies and your name is Gordon?

[@gordonrankin3995]

@@geover2 Yep at Red Rocks they told everyone they named the album after me :) I make all their custom amps, iso cabs and some of their pedals.

[@helmutarseparter]

Amazing episode well done! So much useful info and more Biffy insight, what's not to love!?!

[@kcole4001]

Brilliant show as always! Never used a wireless myself, we did have a vocal wireless setup in one band which worked great until the singer started dancing and waving the mic around (including directly at the stage wedges!!!!!) so everyone thought the low frequency feedback was my fault (bass player). 🤕 She was told what happened and not to do it again....next set - right back at it. 😬 Anyway, fascinating stuff. Richard (and all the other pro techs) certainly earns his pay and then some!

[@stevekirkby6570]

This just confirmed to me that as a home / studio / jam / very small venue guitarist I do not want or need to go without my beloved cables :) Thank you. It's a nightmare.

[@mesadeco1]

Huh. And I was just thinking how wonderful my wic wireless system is. I like dancing around….guys with cables 😉👍

[@stevekirkby6570]

@@mesadeco1 LOL.I am passed dancing :)

[@hmainaccount1-h5h]

Absolutely fascinating episode, thanks Dan and Mick!

[@davedavem]

Loved the walkabout at the end - finally you guys know how loud you are to the rest of the farm!!

[@davidf8749]

I acquired a Sennheiser EM-1 system a while ago and I thought I would test it. I have a Peavey VK212 ( 100w 2x12 ) so I hooked it all up in my dining room and proceeded to head into the back garden. I waited for my neighbour to be out and turned everything up. From the back garden (with the patio window closed) it sounded great - it was too loud to be in the same room as the amp. I noticed that any "neighbourly" noises seemed to quieten afterwards, so I think he may have actually been at home during my experiment. I have a different neighbour now but it is good to know the limitations. :)

[@stucks794]

This is such a good topic, it is a crap shoot getting a wireless system when you don't know what you are doing (yours truely), and it does have a real impact on your tone. Thanks

[@coldacre]

I'm the same. I ended up going with the BOSS WL-50. its got 3 cable capacitance settings, 12 hours of battery life and BOSS rugged build. nice little unit

[@periloustemple8290]

Wow! Huge success sounds like so much trouble! It's a good shout I am safe from those perils! LOL. I found this to be extraordinarily interesting. Thanks for doing it - and great shout out to Richard! What a genius! Rosie looked so pleased to be testing that wireless range. Lovely.

[@dougmishoe1336]

Dan still had the fuzz on his strap while he was 50 feet away... classic! 🤣

[@erik2446]

Dan does a surprisingly good British / Nigel impression! 🔥Thanks for doing this episode - I've been wondering about this stuff for a while.

[@martinwidenmusic]

Nice to see Churd back on the show. Very useful and insightful information! I really enjoyed the episode. My band an I uses the Line6 Relay stuff. 2 guitars and bass on wireless. We use channel 1,3 and 6 and it works! But we’re not on big stages or anything. The whole band are also using in-ears. Never had any problems so far. 😊

[@hisproperty1438]

G'day Dan & Mick, Thanks for a great, enjoyable video. I'm not thinking "Wow! I really need a wireless unit" now, but your show was thoroughly entertaining, and amazingly informative. Many thanks to you & Richard. The only question I have left is.... Can I go to one of those "101 Great Aussie Inventions" YT shows, & say; "You forgot Angus Young - he invented the wireless guitar solo."? 😉 Thanks again for a great show. Andrew

[@mikkelclausen831]

I got the boss wl-50 on my board. For me it the ease of use, theres no cables on the unit, you just pickup your guitar and play. All ways have a cable next to it, so if any problems, I just go full analog. The interaction you get with the audience, when you go and play a solo close to them, maybe on the dancefloor i priceless.

[@coldacre]

yeah great unit. was a total game changer when I switched to the WL-50. particularly for those of us still playing on small small stages, one less thing to potentially trip over @mikkelclausen831

[@tlb2732]

I've been using wireless guitar systems for 35+ years. The first was my beloved Nady system with a single metal telescoping antenna. I used it for years without ever having an issue of any type. But this was well before cellphones, so the airwaves were free of interference. I carried it on the road to many shows. By the time I'd worn it out, things had changed and Nady gear was nowhere to be found to buy a new system. Then I progressed through a few Shure incarnations as cellphones took over, then wifi, and interference became a real issue. I still rehearse using a cable, but I love the freedom of gigging wirelessly. My current rig is a Shure GLXD system. It works very well. Mixing from stage, I can monitor the room periodically while playing to make adjustments. The only time I've ever had issues with my current setup was early on when I placed the receiver too close to other wireless devices at shows. I've since learned how to properly separate wireless gear. If you're considering wireless, don't be talked out of it by "tone purists" who rant that it affects your tone. EVERY change you make affects your sound. And there is myriad of other factors that do as well. But don't sacrifice freedom of movement that adds to self expression. Simply learn to adapt to these factors that affect your sound in a given room, learn to find a tone you can enjoy, and get on about enjoying your performance.

[@RichardPribbernow]

AH Thank you , Ive always been curious about this stuff ! Rock on guys ! TPS RULES !!!

[@PaulDetschermitsch]

I’m a fuzz face user and my fix for playing response and impedance is to put a Tonebone dragster on the strap with the transmitter and AXSGTR UNZ1 un-buffer in front of the fuzz. In my opinion fixes the drawbacks with wireless

[@nicksburson1]

I use a fuzz unbuffer as well

[@PaulDetschermitsch]

@@nicksburson1 what brand of un-buffer do you use, I had a hell of a time finding mine?

[@coldacre]

thanks for the heads up with the UNZ1! gonna check it out @PaulDetschermitsch

[@stephenboykin1]

This was amazing! I never realized how much goes into this. The frequency search as well as the latency stacking is something I never thought about! I totally appreciate the value of GOOG guitar tech. It ain’t just tuning em up anymore is it?!

[@billiousbogg844]

That was fascinating lads, thanks so much for covering this subject. In our band (folk, not rock'n'roll 🙂) I use a G30 from a fiddle and acoustic guitar into a Line 6 Helix, out to a Line 6 PowerCab then into the desk. (Yes I sound like a Line 6 fanboy but the Helix is the only thing I found that can take multiple inputs from different instruments easily with one output.) I never considered the latency of what I was doing so have experienced that 'not sounding right' feeling a couple of times and its possibly when its been a digital desk. Interesting!

[@tommiaapaoja2934]

When I saw the topic I though 'Oh no, not really interesting..'. Yet as I watched, this was a bunch of invaluable info as I've thought about getting a wireless unit. Thanks for this!

[@ShinyShinyBlack]

Wow. I’ve done wireless coordination for individual bands in the US, at places like SXSW it’s total nightmare, but lots of other festivals it’s usually pretty doable, as long as you do a good scan ahead of time. We always assigned channels and kept two redundant frequency options available per device, just in case someone fired up a rig during the set that wasn’t transmitting during the scans. I had no idea you had to be licensed and assigned frequencies in other countries. It seems like a lot of extra work for the same result- if someone else is on the channel you’re on, you still have to change it to keep the show going. Very interesting!

[@JamesRamsay]

One of the best episodes! Thanks guys!

[@cmadelaide56]

The first time you walk out into the crowd (even at smaller values) justifies the extra bit of thought and preparation that goes into running wireless. Even a simple Line6 unit adds so much value from a performance perspective.

[@stevewallek990]

Strap on has a whole new meaning now.

[@MarcCoteMusic]

If you're using digital gear, latency is one of problems that can be somewhat mitigated by using something like a Quad Cortex (or other all-in-one) where the conversion happens only once no matter how many effects and amps you use within the QC itself. If instead you had, say, four Strymon pedals, you'd be doing the A/D/A conversion for each and latency is always cumulative. Of course, you'll still have other A/D/A conversions, as mentioned, like the in-ears and the mixer itself. In the case of my mixer, the latency to the outputs is reportedly only 0.7ms, so it's negligible but it's still something to be added to the rest. But there will always be latency even when plugged straight into an amp when playing on a stage, particularly a large stage. There's roughly a ms per foot of distance between the amp speaker and your ear. So, if your amp is ten feet from your ear, that's ~10ms (closer to 9, actually, but let's not quibble). When I mentioned this in the comments of one of the TPS videos a couple of years ago, Dan trashed me for it, saying it wasn't true, believing that the latency was much, much less. But that's the speed of sound in air (343 metres/sec, or 1125 feet/sec) and there's no getting around it. In fact, if you used in-ears and no amp, you'd actually have less latency, all other things being equal (unless you play with your amp closer than a couple of feet from your ears). But the funny thing for many musicians is that we can, to a certain point, compensate for it subconsciously and still manage to play tight with the other musicians even though the latency varies depending on where each musician is on the stage. Of course, having a good monitor mix on a big stage means that you can hear the other musicians at the same time, which is very helpful.

[@martintaylor1701]

Despite my low expectations, I bought one of those dirt-cheap wireless kits and was pleasantly surprised; I wouldn't trust it for a gig, but wandering round the house and garden whilst noodling away is great fun. It's fascinating to see what goes into a proper wireless setup - now I just need the field with no neighbours and an annex for the on-site techie.

[@justarthur1788]

The cheap amazon ones are great for home use or a situation where there isn't a lot of interference. There's plenty of reviews of people using them for cruise ship gigs etc.

[@martintaylor1701]

@@NearHavana Lekato - they look identical to a bunch of other brands so I suspect they're all the same just with different labels.

[@PhilLament]

I've used the XVive U2 wireless for bar gigs. Did the job, no complaints.

[@yannick9678]

Sooooo fascinating episode and super cool stories from chard 💪

[@Guitarman007]

When there's a real wired connection between the guitar and an amplifier, the entire loop from guitar pickup through amp to cab and back (because it's an alternating current) is harmonic and sympathetic. Theoretically, that means some aspects of the tone and feel come from that connectedness. If you then put something in the middle that breaks that connection and doesn't do a good job of simulating that interconnected relationship on both sides, I would expect there to be tonal differences, similar to how having someone translate your message to someone else always loses something. I've never tried any of these systems but I suspect there's always something lost. The only question is how much is lost and is it enough to outweigh convenience? Then there's the wearing of something constantly transmitting a high freq signal next to your body. It's a non-ionizing type radiation, but that doesn't mean a lot if its transmitting high enough power for long enough close enough to your body. A microwave is also non-ionizing. You can damage tissues and cells really well with a microwave.

[@tresblack4739]

Excellent, informative and USEFUL info. Love you guys! and thanks!

[@robert6907]

The Schaffer Replica, which Dan refers to, is actually an amazing pedal for boosting and/or limiting your signal. Very overlooked pedal, made by Solodallas.

[@richardsturgess8241]

Great episode. I use a boss wireless to go from my pedal board to the amp, works great for reducing the number of cables crossing the floor.

[@kasperb213]

Thanks for the interesting topic! I find relating latency to distance a good way of getting a rough idea of what impact the latency will have on your experience. It's easy to do, as sound will travel 1 meter in more or less 3 ms on the dot (about 1 ft/ms). This means that the ~15 ms example would be like standing 5 meters away from the amp plugged straight in, which intuitively doesn't feel too impactful. However, like you say, latency stack no matter if it's from distance or from AD/DA conversion and digital processing and it's really easy to get into an uncomfortable playing situation if you don't actively try to minimize the latency at every stage of your signal chain.

[@zachisebi]

Jesus Christ! We got some of the guys from Muse over... For most of us the consumer grade units are probably gonna be fine. I'm using a Boss WL-50 and I only had problems once or twice. Just in case I always have a short cable next to my pedal board and the Boss receiver has an input jack that mutes the wireless. So, worst case it's an easy fix even during a song. Also can we please get an episode full of hacks and tricks and taping stuff together? That Fuzz on the strap was glorious.

[@AlbusBand]

Opening with a TAP reenactment ?!?! 😘😘😘 LOVE youuuuuu

[@bradenrodriguez5183]

Dan's finally gone walkabout!

[@Poppateej]

56:32 good way to circle back to the muse talk! lol lovely vid. cheers boys

[@AndoChris]

What a legend Richard is !

[@stevenhorton7457]

Enjoyed this info👍

[@peterjessop1878]

This was a really cool episode. Our singer uses Shure wireless system. It’s always been fine except gain staging can sometimes be an issue. I’ve used both analogue and digital solutions in the past, but back to cables now as no real need and always worried about interfering with singers guitar and mic.

[@Joely_dubbya]

Question about fuzz on the strap Dan - I don’t like relying on 9v batts - can I have a solar panel on a hat that will give me true freedom if playing an outdoor festival? (The set will be weather dependant of course) Just thinking this could pair perfectly with my whah/expression shoes.

[@PortStMaryBoy]

Please put me on the list for “wah/expression shoes” 😂

[@brianmansfield666]

Angus Young was analog FM or uhf whatever and when recording he couldn’t get sound tone of his guitar to how he liked it until he used his wireless system , so it’s on the recordings and I think he still uses it and probably bought up all the units as they hard to get now used.

[@lanceleslie5165]

Solodallas makes a similar unit to the one built by Ken Schaffer for Angus Young.

[@markfitter757]

Great show! Thanks guys, super informative and entertaining Fun fact to consider, for comparison, even if you went full analogue on a large festival stage, and stood 10foot from your guitar amplifier (with no in ear monitoring) you would still experience a similar latency of 10ms. Since sound travels at approx 1ms per foot

[@ThatPedalShow]

Richard mentions this. So in short, if it’s already bad, no problem making it worse.

[@joethrelfall6370]

​@@ThatPedalShowsorry chaps but I've said before as fellow Brian may gear owner and user and I don't mean to be rude but his treble boosters are Silicon! Not germanium!! He's never ever used a germanium treble boosters. His strap mounted treble booster is knight audio technologies red 18 which is Silicon. His amps are not gix amps either they are built by knight audio technologies with normal channel only and Celestion blue and g12h anniversary speakers there is nothing vox about them apart from the logo.

[@PF_74]

That was super interesting. I'm not sure if I'll ever need to deal with wireless systems directly, but i enjoyed the insights!

[@jcwear89]

This was really useful!! Thank you 😊

[@andsoistopped]

Absolutely brilliant episode.

[@SalisburySimon]

"Turn a knob and just enjoy it" T Shirt please 43:18

[@Chucksguitargeekery]

I always did wireless live simply because we ran our own sound playing in dive bars who couldn’t pay us enough to hire a sound guy. I’d walk around the crowd periodically to make sure it still sounded ok, sometimes order another drink, or hit the commode, all without missing a note. Never had an interference issue, but I can see a big festival being an issue.

[@StevenHadfield]

Nice thumbnail for the video, but if I get to the end of it and Dan isn't atop the Henge doing a jazz rendition of the November Rain solo, I'm going to mildly peeved.

[@jesperjacobsen3050]

Love that. What an intro!

[@16brentboy]

You guys are the best!!!

[@jthiessen4157]

It was cool to see That Pedal Yard 😊

[@hisproperty1438]

I thought it was cool seeing the dB meter working, in an empty TPS stage. LOL

[@brymills]

This was such a fabulous left field episode!

[@cbaten2]

And more latency stacking issues, the send return of e. g. Line 6 stomp adds another 2.3 ms. Stuff becomes extra weird if you put the fx loop in a parallel path and or if any of your pedals inverts the signal.

[@aronvanalstine]

@40:50 Classic!

[@deztone]

Great episode! Fascinating info and clearly a massive learning curve if you choose to go the wireless route. The headache for the tech team though... No thanks!

[@mattgrimmer9909]

Microfrets guitars out of Frederick MD had a wireless system built right into the guitar. Workers used to crank an amp on one side of the building and walk outside, down the road, etc. not sure if this “predates” the supposed Fender system but it’s gotta be close.

[@ScottTheNews]

Great show guys

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks Scott 🙏

[@phillipasby9202]

Really great episode - I've tinkered with the cheap amazon units - been tempted to step up to a Boss or Line6 but having a tough time justifying it. More issues to try to solve that I don't need!

[@gregbridge996]

The Boss unit solved issues for me. It has 14 channels and searches the spectrum to pick the right one when you plug the transmitter and receiver together. Like most Boss gear - it just works.

[@DavidMorisset]

I love wireless to the pedalboard and to the amp as well. 😎

[@adammartinguitar5436]

Been interested in wireless since I saw Angus Youngs rig rundown ages ago! Not been able to convince myself to get one up to now but that might change today

[@brianmansfield666]

Which wasn’t digital , was analog FM or uhf whatever and when recording he couldn’t get sound tone of his guitar to how he liked it until he used his wireless system , so it’s on the recordings and I think he still uses it and probably bought up all the units as they hard to get now ..

[@ScottfromBaltimore]

I lived the studio tour. [edit: liked]

[@TechMetalRules]

What timing... I was just looking into getting a wireless system for my rack rig!

[@evanmiller2579]

Really great episode. Super interesting and quite entertaining. I use the Shure SLDX16+ (I think). Really never have issues but I am not Bono. :)

[@rafamcm]

Very interesting video! Thank you.

[@YonathanLeibovich]

In the clean sound comparison I thought the Boss sounded a bit brighter... so I liked it! And the only one that sounded "transparent" to my ears was the last one, the digital Shure. The analog Shure sounded like it gives a bit of a mid boost Cool thing this was! They all sounded brighter with overdrive 😅

[@KristofferVad]

Probably the most irrelevant show for me ever. Will never have the need or desire for wireless. Still enjoyed it immensely. Loved the deepdive nerdery, and such knowledge being shared. Great stuff!

[@jeremiahMc11]

Dang. The Fun comment really got me. I think we have to start asking what are we losing when we go to "improve" something.

[@colaboytje]

I have tried a few Line 6 wireless systems. And while the freedom of not being connected to a cable, is great, I never felt connected to the amp. It might be pure psychology that caused that feeling, but I feel connected when there is a cable. Might just be bias on my part...

[@ThatPedalShow]

Nope. It's latency and buffering. Same experience. Mick here.

[@rickwiggins283]

I had nothing but trouble with the G30 and fought with it for years. They shipped me a replacement which had the same problems. I finally upgraded to the G70 and it's much better, but still occasionally glitches out mid-performance. Cycle the power (same channel, cleanest scan) and it clears back up so a software issue. (I did verify it's on the latest firmware). I've mostly gone back to a cable for now, but I do miss the freedom of wireless.

[@rickwiggins283]

Another tip when using wireless is keep a 10 foot guitar cable coiled up right next to your pedal board so you can switch over in a pinch. This has saved my bacon several times.

[@andsoistopped]

Ahhhh we haven’t had a Legends go outside for a while.

[@rodrigod2917]

The whole license thing put me off the high end stuff, so I end up prosumer: shure GLXD16+ / loving the tone, ease of use and form factor

[@stratjed]

Remember dealing with a radio broadcast of a Baseball game coming through an amp with the earliest version of Nady wireless. No, not mine I always used a cable. The other guy who I was jealous of till that happened.

[@highstreetjackmusic]

Dan is so Awesome! I love you guys!

[@nickgassman2909]

This was an interesting insight into the pro world, and the discussion around latency stacking was new to me. I would have liked at least some discussion of what was briefly referred to as 'the Amazon £30 jobs' which are a simple transmitter/receiver pair, no cables. These can be great for the bedroom player and people do gig with them as well. There was also no mention of the 5.8ghz band.

[@ThatPedalShow]

I think the conclusion on the £30 Amazon jobs is that it’s not worth bothering with. We appreciate that some people do use them, but TPS is about people who are serious about playing and tone. If anyone feels out off or upset by that, pretty much the whole of the rest of the internet is for them/you. We’re about most best, not least worst. Cheers!

[@dannyblau3850]

Funny enough I’ve had the opposite experience on the fun comment once I went digital. When I was all analog I honestly works spend half a gig fishing with tones or pedals and losing the moment. One I had that dialed digital and didn’t have to think about that anyone knowing it was consistently dialed, it allowed me to just enjoy the shoe moment more and connect with other band menders while we play more. I was definitely surprised not only how n notable the difference was between each of the wireless you tried, but also how different it was from the cable. And wow that fuzz, the wireless did NOT play well haha

[@mydayis5]

I never knew ‘going wireless’ could be so complicated! Unlikely I’ll ever be playing arenas any time soon, so glad I can stick with my cable! 😂