Gulf Of Sidra Incident 1989 | Alternative Reality | F-14A Tomcat Vs 4x Libyan Mig-23 | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@ניסןפלדפלד]

This incident happened in 1981

[@davejob630]

Imagine it's 1952, you are doing a ground support mission in the unbeatable P-51 , pushing those Nth Koreans back towards China, when all of a sudden you are jumped by an enthusiastic Russian veteran in a brand new Mig 15! Will you survive the encounter? Also.. I once had flying lessons with a bloke who was shot down in an Australian Meteor over Korea.. I believe it was a two seater on a recon mission. he was the observer as I recall. I lost 500 ft in my first turn in that 150 aerobat. Teacher was not impressed!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@ניסןפלדפלד no sir, youre thinking of the first gulf of sidra incident where 2 su22s were shot down, in 1989 a similar incident happened and 2 mig23s were shot down.

[@ExiledPiasa]

How about the Gulf of Sidra 2 ways… 1) F-4s instead of F-14s. 2) Mig 25s instead of Mig 23s. 3rd idea… Mirage v Drakken 4th idea… (if they have the planes) English Electric Lightning v F-106

[@IRLFlightSim]

My dad immediately recognized your intro as the gulf of sidra incident and he asked me if I knew where it was from he showed me the footage and was in awe. This one is going to be a great one to sit down and watch. Love the content ❤ keep up the great work!!

[@supremegreaser2399]

This isn’t “THE” gulf of Sidra incident, but one of them. Two SU22’s were also shot down in the gulf of Sidra by F-14’s. This event was also called the “Gulf of Sidra incident.”

[@giovannyc.1724]

There was a 1989 video by GS a while back with the whole intro footage

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

Master Arm On! Oh God!!!!

[@HuyV]

How do you recognize the exact incident by seeing two F14 take off a carried in the middle of the ocean.....

[@giovannyc.1724]

@@HuyV the comms. The sound of the pilot. Famous incident tends to be heard by a lot of people

[@deanlawson6880]

Great Alternative history video GS! As an ex-Navy guy who was THERE in the Gulf of Sidra on the USS Forrestal, (the carriers on station in those waters that day were Forrestal and the USS Nimitz), I would have enjoyed seeing something like this go down. As it was the F-4's from the Forrestal overflew low over Tripoli, basically harassing the Libyans, and they (the Libyans) scrambled the 2 SU-22'S. As soon as our F-4's saw the hostiles launch and come up to meet them, they flew back over water toward task-force airspace and broke off, so that the F-14's from the Nimitz could engage and, well the rest was history. I was in a VAQ-Squadron (VAQ-130) that flew the EA-6B Prowler Electronic Warfare aircraft and they were overflying the whole thing with the Hi-Cap fighters high overhead. We were treated to multiple views of this engagement afterwards from cameras on the boat, as well as one of the aircraft in the engagement (I think as I remember one of the F-14's) gun camera. It was a really good day that day. Although the *Real* General Quarters we were at was pretty unnerving, it ended up being uneventful at the level of the boats. The only actual real General Quarters I was ever in on my years on multiple Carriers, and the closest I ever got to actual real action during my time in the Navy. Good Video - Thanks for this GS!!

[@282XVL]

So we can conclude that fighting a Tomcat in the 80s is like trying to fight an F-22 today. Its an absolute death sentence and it won't even be close.

[@FullBoltOnRacing]

The Glorious F14. May she live forever!

[@dreaminknight]

Oh she does. I remember watching Top Gun 2 with aviation enthusiasts: - Action scenes with the F-18E: Everybody was sitting and watching calmly🍿 - The F-14 appers: everybody stood up and clapped 👏

[@v8makoshark]

Tomcat carrier mission, Excellent ! More please. What a channel, glad to be along for the ride with you, G/S.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you very much, I appreciate you.

[@bc3713]

I really love when you re-create historical missions, and I'm happy you put a twist on this one. Would love more of the same with other proven missions... the outcome doesnt need to be the same, if anything it would show the chaos of combat decisions, and how different outcomes could have changed the geopolitics so much.

[@PhycoKrusk]

"MIG-23 WINGMAN 3 KILLED" "Killed" implies there was something left. Dude went straight to the Shadow Realm.

[@tartansauce4879]

BWAHAHAHA!!! *poof*

[@jimwong1380]

Not a single one of those MiG-23 pilots survived the encounter, no chutes were ever visible. The 4th guy was close, his chute did technically open, just underwater.

[@MarkMitchell-c3k]

GS! Well done! In 1986 I was on the USS Coral Sea flying the F/A-18 Hornet. From January to April 1986, we were flying freedom of navigation ops, defying Omar Qaddafi’s “line of death” across the Gulf of Sidra. In the course of those five months, the USS Coral Sea conducted over 130 actual intercepts of Libyan Mig fighters to include the Mig- 23, Mirage F-1, and even some Mig-25s. I personally had four actual intercepts of mostly Mig-23s. The Migs would fly out, we would intercept them outside of 200 miles from the ship, join on their wing, take photos of their weapons load out , they would turn around and go home. Sometimes we’d actually wave adios to each other as we departed! The CAG later said we couldn’t do that any more…We were getting too friendly. Years later in 1989 when I read about the USS America’s F-14 Gulf of Sidra incident, I was absolutely incredulous. On the Coral Sea in 1986, even after five months and over 130 intercepts of Libyan fighters not once were we ever given a reason to shoot anybody down. Personally, I had never heard of any ROE based on bogey jinking. On the Coral Sea, AB decided if we could shoot or not. But he never had to make that decision because the Libyans always turned back before they got inside 200 nm. I’m still shaking my head at what happened with those Gypsies. I wonder if they all got awarded Silver Stars?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

this is actually a super interesting read. I think that whole incident could probably have been avoided if there was cooler heads involved. I had no idea that many intercepts had occurred without incident, that fact alone really changes the way one looks at this incident. Thank you very much for sharing that really opened my eyes.

[@resurgam_b7]

I love these more cinematic episodes :) The historical scenario what ifs are also a fun mix up of the normal style of episode.

[@grizzly4736]

Nice! Have you tried recreating the fictional Red Dawn Colonel Tanner engagement? 1 V 5, his F-15 against 5 enemy MiGs. He never says what type so I would imagine they were whatever were the soviet front line fighters of the early 80's. And you would have to load the AIM-7's and AIM-9's that were available in the early 80's. Just a thought for a fun little mission.

[@kaesees]

I like the period-appropriate loadout!

[@Levexter69]

Today in Airplane Geographic we can aprecciate rare footage of an enderaged species called F-14, this species is a type of bird is very agressive, likes to sweep its wings to scare predators, normally they live in community´s and have a queen (carrier) to defend. Today we saw one of this potent birds attempting to defend or just a random encounter with another agressive species that has similar characteristics. The MIG-23, this one also can sweep its wing in a defense measurement, today 4 of this decided to attack a lonely F-14 on the middle of the Mediterranian. The F-14 with its superior combat experience and better evolution came on top. Very interesting species.

[@DonutGuard]

Imagine being a Navy crewman on board a cruiser, or destroyer, watching Tomcats get launched off the deck, coming back to make the most nerve wracking landing possible day in and day out... with all of the attention spent on how cool the planes are, and how awesome it must have been to pilot one back in the day, you almost forget sometimes that there are people back on those ships putting their lives in the hands of capable and competent pilots every day. Imagine going out there with the weight of that on the back of your mind. You launch off the deck leaving all of your friends behind taking for granted that it's just another sortie, and you'll come back in just a little while. Thousands of soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines from lowly privates to top brass... from people that handle food to munitions... You are their shield. You are their sword.

[@Blueesteel_]

This honestly is probably my favorite channel on KZbin no bs

[@AG-wg1sy]

Bruhhhh if there ever was a time... you needed to have Danger Zone playing in the background for this one LOL Perfect setting

[@b0bbobracing]

This time he did in fact have a f***ing tone.

[@jamescregg694]

I saw an F-14B accelerate at an Air Show and it was mind boggling in a great way!

[@savvidisaudio]

You know its gonna be a good day when GS uploads a montage. Thank you for the good videos, man. :-)

[@planesrkool2727]

“I cant get a fvckin toooonnnnnneee!”

[@ktotheswiss1617]

Thanks!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Many thanks, I appreciate it

[@cheeseluver68]

Great video! Really like the juxtaposition of your talk through with cinematic bookends.

[@donnieweston3249]

Day 1 of not asking for anything, great video

[@razorback139]

One of my favorite 4th Gen fighters of all time!!!!! Excellent display G.S!! You flew the F-14A like an ace out there.

[@anxietygamingactual6554]

Tomcat taking off with an Iowa-class in the background, oh damn I didn't know how much I needed that until now.

[@shearfury147]

your cinematics get better and better. looove your channel. ive watched alot of your videos.

[@olebang6860]

You Sir, are terrifying good in Dcs. And you got this landing`s in aswell. Love it

[@el_bronco77]

"I DONT HAVE A F___ING TONE!"

[@mccornac9548]

I JUST watched your original debrief on this incident, what a timing (also what a fight)

[@jarhead565]

6:35 that was some SICK footage with awesome sound!

[@Belford_4642]

I was literally rewatching your previous video on the gulf of sidra and then you make another one! Any video with the F-14 is awesome, keep up the great work!

[@scottphilippi2743]

Wow, the flight deck of the carrier is pretty real to the real thing. I severed from 1996 to 2005 and that was a great nod to the real thing on a catapult launch on deck.

[@clairecelestin8437]

Thank you for your service. There were some big changes during those years, and it meant a lot to me that we had people like you keeping the watch.

[@ArcaneActual]

Great video! You can definitely come up with some crazy stuff with alternate reality

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

My DUDE! That intro editing is INSANELY good!

[@christophermarshall3856]

As a kid, I dreamed of sims with this much depth. God Bless GS, affiliated pilots/channels and DCS

[@dvaritek434]

I see tomcat, i click.

[@topgun201196]

Wish we could rate your carrier landings, great content

[@khoatran-sv7je]

I really love your videos which showcase you launching from an aircraft carrier alongside a fleet of warships. They're just soo much more immersive and feel more realistic. I have a video suggestion: F14B with AIM 260 vs F15C with AIM 152.

[@702BattleBorn]

Yo GS, thanks for the video. Nice flying in the alternate GoS. Need more Minidocs! Have a pleasant evening. Cheers.

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

I like the carrier missions. Just open sea and nothing to hide behind. Always good to watch you in BVR plus the merge in one video. 4 quick easy kills dude. Great video man.

[@W1ckedRcL]

F14 is the best looking fighter ever built

[@thinlycut]

Great mission and awesome video as always. The Tomcat is just beautiful - absolutely epic plane

[@anorangutan511]

Love this stuff! Keep it up!

[@mornevanderwatt7965]

Awesome, my cousin also tried to recreate this same incident in the Mission editor.

[@joelcueto2460]

At least you still followed the rules of engagement GS, "fire only when fired upon", and the Flogger fired his missile before you have launched your phoenix missile.

[@takeoffwithjakesoft]

IMO, watching GS content on a phone instead of a full sized monitor is a minor tragedy.

[@anubhabpaul3654]

Day 7 asking for Ka-50 vs F-22 Raptor

[@FishYourLifeAway]

Ich bin with du bro

[@anubhabpaul3654]

@@FishYourLifeAway Danke

[@CaptainLegionary]

The Apache vs felon fight but flipped😂

[@FishYourLifeAway]

@@CaptainLegionary ja

[@jesusmagana9650]

Wow I’m cluelesss to how much goes into making these videos but damn your channel is pure fire🔥🔥

[@KellinKingdom]

I have mixed feelings about the real-life incident, but this version is awesome!

[@michelestefanini5466]

why?

[@jwrockets]

Why, truly? The MiG's were spoiling for a fight and FAFO.

[@KellinKingdom]

The Migs never even knew what was going on.@@michelestefanini5466

[@constablemittens]

Alternate what-if scenarios are always pretty cool to think about, just to see what maybe could happen.

[@MrHabernet]

I’ve always wondered, what’s the audio in your intro from?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

exactly from this incident.

[@TheBeatenPaths]

Circa 1990 I had a f14 photo t-shirt that said "Anytime Kadafi Baby" across the back of it.

[@AG1LA]

I'm a simple man... i see F14 Tomcat content, I watch and 👍🏽 Thank you sir!

[@johnhermann7498]

Very fast, action-packed video!

[@Shwobblywobbly]

I never noticed that the wings are bending slightly when taxiing, crazy detail

[@nathanreece1743]

Love that opening sequence !

[@glenncooper3524]

When you fired the aim 54 with the acm switch on you mentioned locking the second mig. So I understand that they're active off the rail but I guess they have an idea which mig to try to go after or am I mistaken

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

no ur correct they come off the rail and the radar in the missile is already guiding at the correct mig, assuming it doesn't lose track, it will hit that specific mig. If it loses track it might look for another one and hit an alternate target which is why one should never shoot a fox3 into a furball because it might lose its target and lock onto a friendly instead.

[@SuperJeb98]

8:53 that camera work though

[@davidpalmer4184]

Thanks GS, really love these historic battles! I also liked the landing at the end of it. Is it "urbane legend" that Naval Aviators more worried about the landing rather than the mission?

[@jaejampro1]

The answer to your hypothetical question is answered: YES! LOL

[@Vicarium]

Dude, you rolled into that ace...boarding rate guy, I see...

[@GrantvsMaximvs]

I love these recreations! GS, I want to do a fan video supercut of your Cinematics and edit them with some natowave style music.

[@Ghosting8273]

Can you do a video of the entire USS Eisenhower carrier air wing? That would be awesome! Love the great work man! Keep it up!

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!!!

[@PredatorFly]

Can I ask you what type of carrier escort vessel you have entered?

[@ArokhX]

Such a beautiful machine, the Tomcat.

[@FreedomIsNotFree2023]

Watching that intro, all I heard in my head was "Highway to the danger zone" 🎶🎶🎶

[@robmoore423]

Awesome video

[@TheRMKII]

Great intro. I like it.

[@OW38B]

Outstanding!

[@CapTexamerica]

Best of all, Jester never ejected!

[@drewm4914]

I have extremely high confidence that if Sidewinder were in the Navy back in 1989, that he could do this all alone.

[@Ayeshteni]

The AIM-9 has been employed by the US Navy since 1956

[@kevinh891]

When the Tomcat comes out to play. Best go home...

[@yomommaahotoo264]

Coulda swore I saw an air force marking on that cat on the deck.

[@gavinwagner1766]

Nice video! What's the puff of black smoke I see from defending jets just before impact? They hit the throttle? Afterburner?

[@madaxe606]

I wanna see a second take on this when Razbam releases the MiG-23MLA.

[@aaronliddell4280]

Tomcat is the definition of gorgeous, power and agility for me 👍

[@Torch114]

Anytime Baby! The Tomcat is a beast! 🇺🇸

[@christopherschroeder4096]

I know you can't without a whole other headache, but boy that intro could use some Kenny Loggins...

[@jameskester7745]

Its amazing hiw ahead of its time the tomcat was, if it was built today, it would still be recognized as a force to be reckoned with

[@hercavotica]

ooh, it's the battle of swept wings!

[@indianajon7980]

An amazing video spoilt by the no grade 1 wire and your having spoilers deployed on the landing. Looks like you are buying the drinks in the Wardroom 😅! Your SA is phenomenal though. Whilst I could keep track of migs 1 & 2 I have no idea how you kept tabs on 3 & 4, especially that last missile from dash 4. Love these vids and the new camera angles really help to show off the amazing heatblur model. Thanks Quick question though. Did they carry Phoenix at that point? I thought the F14s were sporting 2-2-0 although I can imagine that would be almost impossible to complete without a wingman.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

looool it was actually a 4 wire.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

on 2nd look, you're correct cuz I landed short, caught the 4th wire still but its only cuz I boltered the first 3 looool.

[@scottcooper4391]

Just 4 Mig 23 "s ? they were outclassed !!!

[@davidjames7382]

Was curious in your merch store? Do you still sell the coffee mugs or drink ware?

[@kevinmccorkle7476]

VF-41 & VF-32. Something in common Baby.♠️

[@BlakeJoy]

What song is that used when the f-14 is taking off?

[@HackedGaming4]

Still waiting for the su47 vid do they not have it?

[@schumy1975]

insane graphics, super impressive!!!

[@pixselious]

Day 1 of asking for Sky warden vs Felon

[@TOMCATnbr]

F14 is a beast 😍

[@localracer]

The Strangereal is strong with this one

[@abbaerfani9007]

Absolutely beautiful ❤❤❤

[@AoshiShinomori82]

Did you do an inverted middle finger though?

[@Amar7605]

You sent them all to Allah’s Paradise.

[@IceyJones]

what did jester say to your 1-wire? XD

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Was actually a 4 wire lol

[@Donut833]

4 Wire? Surprised he didn't punch out .@@GrowlingSidewinder

[@invfamouzz731]

Hey are u still using Tobi Eye Tracking or did you go back to TrackIR?

[@BobertLee156]

Day 3 of asking for F-18 Close air support. GS you pick the variant

[@AnytimeBaby78]

Not a single ejection , damn

[@bitman_agent67]

God's aircraft. If God needed a fighter aircraft it would be the F-14. Just beautiful and capable. Nothing sexier.

[@capt.dinamite]

We want to see Rafael vs. F-35 BVR fight.